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boutons_
04-29-2008, 10:58 AM
Bomb Bomb Iran by Summer's End?

By Steve Weissman

t r u t h o u t | Perspective Tuesday 29 April 2008

When Senator John McCain serenaded reporters last April with his "Bomb Bomb Iran," I had to wonder. Was this a taste of his aging flyboy humor? Or was he telling us what to expect should he ever become president? We may never find out. If Vice President Dick Cheney has his way, he will beat McCain to the punch, possibly as soon as late May, after President George W. Bush returns from celebrating the 60th anniversary of Israel's creation.

The evidence is surprisingly public, though in several bits and pieces that fit together like a jigsaw. I hope that I'm wrong in how I've put the puzzle together, but here's how it looks to me.

On February 25 of this year, Cheney made a surprise visit to the Sultanate of Oman, a longtime military ally just across the Strait of Hormuz from Iran. He had come, an Omani official told The Associated Press, "to discuss regional security issues, including the US standoff with Iran over its nuclear program."

A little over three weeks later, Cheney returned to Oman as part of a ten-day visit to several countries in the region, including Israel, Turkey and Saudi Arabia. While in Oman, he gave an interview to Martha Raddatz of ABC News. "Can you foresee any point where military action would be taken?" Raddatz asked. Cheney tried to downplay the question, but Raddatz persisted, asking specifically about the National Intelligence Estimate (NIE), which concluded that Iran had shut down its nuclear arms program five years ago.

Cheney read the NIE differently. The Iranians definitely had a program to develop a nuclear warhead, which they apparently stopped in 2003, he insisted. "We don't know whether or not they've restarted." Cheney emphasized that the Iranians were continuing with their uranium enrichment, which - he said - would give them the fissile material to make nuclear weapons. He offered no evidence that the Iranian program would or could produce the highly enriched uranium they would need to make a bomb.

"VP: Iran May Have Resumed Weapon Program," the headlines ran. "Cheney: Iran might be next US target." The Israeli web site DEBKA added that Cheney was specifically talking about possible US military action in the region to shut down Iran's nuclear program.

Punctuating Cheney's remarks, the US Navy continues to build up its forces in the region, which now include two nuclear aircraft carriers and strike groups capable of attacking Iran or defending against missile attacks from Iran. America's military brass are also chiming in. The Pentagon is considering "potential military courses of action" against Iran, warns the nation's top military officer - Adm. Michael Mullen, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. "It would be a mistake to think that we are out of combat capability."

Mullen presented his threat, he said, as a response to Iranian support for Iraqi militias fighting US forces, as well as their support for Hamas, Hezbollah and the Taliban in Afghanistan. He also repeated as fact Dick Cheney's belief that Iran was pursuing nuclear weapons. Mullen raised all this the day after the CIA reported to Congress that North Korea had supplied Syria with a nuclear reactor, which an Israeli air strike had destroyed last September. Mullen's timing added weight to his threat and raised the question of what role Israelis might play in an airstrike on Iran.

Cheney himself touched on the question when he returned from his ten-day trip. In an interview with neo-conservative journalist Hugh Hewitt, he mentioned the widely reported threats that Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has made against Israel. "I know the Israelis well enough, and I was just there a couple of weeks ago, to know there isn't any way they're prepared to ignore those kinds of statements coming out of Tehran," said Cheney. "They have to take them seriously, given their history. And I think they perceive the possibility of an Iran armed with nuclear weapons as a fundamental threat to the very survival of the state of Israel."

What exactly would the Israelis do? Cheney refused to say. But an Israeli airstrike against Iran would prove far more difficult than the strike against Syria, and the Israelis would likely need American help in clearing the airspace over Iraq, guaranteeing non-interference from Saudi and other Arab air forces, sharing satellite intelligence, blinding Iranian radar, and possibly refueling the Israeli planes. The Israelis would, of course, use long-range F-15s and bunker-buster bombs that the US supplied, while the Iranians have announced that they will respond to any attack as coming from both Israel and the United States. With all this in mind, Cheney might well want the Israelis to make the first strike, and when the Iranians try to retaliate, American forces could intervene "in self-defense" and "defense of our ally Israel."

To be sure, others have previously predicted American and Israeli airstrikes against Iran, and those strikes never happened. Hopefully, my parsing of the tea leaves will fail as well, either because of intervening events or a decision by Bush not to press ahead. But Cheney has clearly started the war drums beating, and unless Congress shows far more gumption than it has on Iraq, I would not plan a late spring or summer trip to Iran or anywhere else in the Middle East or Persian Gulf.

http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/printer_042908J.shtml

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Go To Hell, dickhead, you motherfucking bastard.

GaryJohnston
04-29-2008, 11:58 AM
Very credible news source you are sighting. I didn't have to even read the article to know its crap. Just gotta view the source.

George Gervin's Afro
04-29-2008, 12:16 PM
We don't need proof to know that Iran is building nuclear weapons.. Iraq has shown that the neocons only need to prove they 'intend' to make the weapons to justify war. Iraq had 'intentions' to build WMDS and we invaded them.. Why is anyone surprised that Dick is going to go out in a blaze of glory!! Sort of like the al pacino in scarface's final scene... I can see 5 deferrment now.. ducking the bullets to allow his wife and friend to take the shots mean't for him...

I hate dick cheney

Aggie Hoopsfan
04-29-2008, 12:34 PM
truthout.org? I guess democrapticunderground.org would have been too obvious...

ChumpDumper
04-29-2008, 12:53 PM
Someone predicts this every month. dan said last Labor Day.

boutons_
04-29-2008, 01:24 PM
so you guys support bombing Iran?

or at least don't care if dickhead bombs Iran?

ChumpDumper
04-29-2008, 01:35 PM
From what I know of the situation, I'm not for it -- but this has been falsely predicted for years now. It's a little tiresome.

clambake
04-29-2008, 01:41 PM
if we only had our own suicide bombers.

George Gervin's Afro
04-29-2008, 01:59 PM
if we only had our own suicide bombers.

i wonder if we could talk the resident war whores into the job?

clambake
04-29-2008, 02:10 PM
nah, they want it, but don't want to be in it.

but why would we want to bomb our puppets new partner?

xrayzebra
04-29-2008, 03:44 PM
boutons, don't worry Israel will take care of that problem with Iran
when the time is right. People like you in the U.S. has shown you
can't stomach doing the right thing. Sit back relax, take deep
breaths and keep chanting Bush sux and Dick is a nasty old man.

boutons_
04-29-2008, 03:57 PM
"resident war whores"

the hypocrits won't fight, and if dubya asked them to pony $20K in taxes to pay for the war, they'd go nuts.

super-patriots who love war as long as they don't have to fight it nor pay for it.

RandomGuy
04-29-2008, 05:05 PM
Bomb Bomb Iran by Summer's End?

By Steve Weissman

t r u t h o u t | Perspective

oooooh


Truthout =


http://www.shipmentoffail.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/housefail.jpg

PEP
04-29-2008, 05:06 PM
if we only had our own suicide bombers.

Boutons?

PixelPusher
04-29-2008, 05:10 PM
http://www.shipmentoffail.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/housefail.jpg

Maybe the guy in this pic only had less than a week to build a covered bridge and this was all he could come up with.

Aggie Hoopsfan
04-29-2008, 05:55 PM
so you guys support bombing Iran?

or at least don't care if dickhead bombs Iran?

I would care, but it won't happen.

Try reading a history book sometime, it will be Israel that does the deed.

Aggie Hoopsfan
04-29-2008, 05:56 PM
"resident war whores"

the hypocrits won't fight, and if dubya asked them to pony $20K in taxes to pay for the war, they'd go nuts.

super-patriots who love war as long as they don't have to fight it nor pay for it.

Some of us are actually paying quite a bit in taxes already, thank you. Unless your degenerate ass.

boutons_
04-29-2008, 06:32 PM
"Some of us are actually paying quite a bit in taxes"

nice self-congratulating dodge. your taxes don't cover the war, nobody's taxes do.

Wild Cobra
04-30-2008, 02:46 AM
boutons, don't worry Israel will take care of that problem with Iran
when the time is right. People like you in the U.S. has shown you
can't stomach doing the right thing. Sit back relax, take deep
breaths and keep chanting Bush sux and Dick is a nasty old man.
I finally decided to take the time to ready this thread with such an idiotic title. This is my viewpoint as well. When it comes to nuclear weapons in the middle east, Israel will handle the problems. They will ask us if they need help, but they will not allow anyone who has vowed to destroy them to have the upper hand.

If Iran is foolish enough to really get close, it will be Israel singing the song!

clambake
04-30-2008, 10:28 AM
yeah, they can handle it.......as long as they don't run into those hezbollah guys.

Don Quixote
04-30-2008, 11:00 AM
Wake me up when the ground war starts.

Seriously, in an election year, with a war-weary public, an attack on Iran is extremely unlikely right now.

Iran would have to do something serious, like test out one of its nukes on Afghanistan, for anyone to go after them militarily.

But ... we will have to deal with them one day.

Aggie Hoopsfan
04-30-2008, 12:59 PM
"Some of us are actually paying quite a bit in taxes"

nice self-congratulating dodge. your taxes don't cover the war, nobody's taxes do.

I didn't doge anything. I was just saying that I have a right to bitch, I'm actually paying taxes, unlike your commie ass.

My taxes don't cover the war? Well, not all of them, but some of it goes there.

boutons_
04-30-2008, 02:31 PM
'some of it goes there."

no, the GWOT is almost entirely financed from debt, like dubya's "boom" these past 7 years, not from real, hard $$.

nobody's income tax hard $$ are paying for Iraq.

xrayzebra
04-30-2008, 02:35 PM
'some of it goes there."

no, the GWOT is almost entirely financed from debt, like dubya's "boom" these past 7 years, not from real, hard $$.

nobody's income tax hard $$ are paying for Iraq.

Guess our taxes are going to pay for your welfare check.