Al Qaeda getting frustrated over lack of support in Iraq

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=080422100510.qnl6rneq&show_article=1

This can't be right, Pelosi and the leftist pansies say we're getting our butts kicked over there and the surge isn't working.

[ChumpDumper]

It would be and would have been great if all we had to deal with was Al Qaeda.

[George Gervin's Afro]

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=080422100510.qnl6rneq&show_article=1

This can't be right, Pelosi and the leftist pansies say we're getting our butts kicked over there and the surge isn't working.


so then let's get out of iraq now.. the surge worked and everything is good to go.. so what's the hold up?

[boutons_]

AQ didn't have support in Iraq before dubya invaded.

Iraq is a fucking disaster on every count.
Keep trying to spin the "progress".

[xrayzebra]

You think AQ is frustrated, you should see boutons. He has
scabs on his navel from picking it so much and screaming Bush's
name for the ten thousandth time. Poor baby!

[PEP]

AQ didn't have support in Iraq before dubya invaded.

Iraq is a fucking disaster on every count.
Keep trying to spin the "progress".
When was the last time you were there to see the progress on the ground?

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

AQ didn't have support in Iraq before dubya invaded.

Iraq is a fucking disaster on every count.
Keep trying to spin the "progress".


You're wrong on #1.

Wrong on #2.

The fact the Sunnis don't welcome AQ any longer *is* progress.

That said, we still need to get the hell out of there. Yeah, it's going to suck, and yeah, the Shi'ia are going to exact some revenge on the Sunnis, but it's going to happen whether we leave tomorrow or in 50 years.

Let al-Sadr take over, in the end game he's going to be seen as a patriot and the leader of the revival of his country. Let him deal with all the lazy and hateful fucks who don't want to make their country any better.

[boutons_]

"You're wrong on #1."

You're lying. Saddam did not support AQ. AQ had no effective presence in Iraq because Saddam wouldn't let them. AQI was direct result of dubya breaking the country.

Wrong on #2

Petraeus is paying 80K Sunnis a total of $24M/month to quit fighting the US and help with AQI, who are crazy-assed foreign jihadists who weren't that welcome in the first place.

Money for peace. The peace lasts as long as the money does. Never works. Cynically buying peace until dubya leaves office. All the US military brass admit the "peace" is fragile and could evaporate at anytime.

"Let al-Sadr take over, in the end game he's going to be seen as a patriot and the leader of the revival of his country."

He has lot of popular support. Maliki is trying to neutralize him before the elections, because puppet Maliki knows Sadr would win the DEMOCRATIC election.

[PEP]

That's alright though, AQI always has boutons support. I'm still waiting to hear when he was there, before and after the surge so he can give his "expert" opinion on how bad the war is going, instead of believing everything he reads at democraticunderground.

[PEP]

The leader of al-Qaida in Somalia was killed in a US airstrike today.
Aden Hashi Farah Ayro was said to have gone to Afghanistan to train with al-Qaeda before 2001.
AP reported:


The American military launched an airstrike Thursday targeting the head of al-Qaida in Somalia, a U.S. defense official said. The head of an Islamic insurgent group said the attack killed its leader.

Islamist leader Aden Hashi Ayro, believed to be the head of al-Qaida in Somalia, was killed when the airstrike struck his house in the central Somali town of Dusamareeb, about 300 miles north of Mogadishu, said Sheik Muqtar Robow, a spokesman for the Islamic al-Shabab militia.

Another commander and seven others were also killed, Robow said. Six more people were wounded, two of whom later died, said resident Abdullahi Nor.

"Our brother martyr Aden Hashi, has received what he was looking for — death for the sake of Allah — at the hands of the United States," Robow told The Associated Press by phone.

What a shame.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

boutons,

I never said AQ had Saddam's support in Iraq prior to the war. You said there was never support for them there until we went in, that's not true. There were multiple terror groups in north and east Iraq prior to the U.S. going in that were affiliate of AQ. So again, you're wrong.

As to the payments, we are not paying people to stop fighting AQ, they took up that cause on their own because they were tired of their women and children being killed and their towns destroyed.

We are paying some of the salaries of the Army and police folk who are working against Sadr's forces, but that's about all I disagree with.

Anyway, like I said, we need to get out and let the payback cycle itself out and Sadr to take control under the guise of the Ayatollah, it's going to happen anyway, time to quit shedding blood over it.

[boutons_]

"There were multiple terror groups in north and east Iraq prior to the U.S. going in that were affiliate of AQ"

dubya admits the intel on Iraq was wrong. :lol

IF there were any terror groups in Iraq, they were no threat to USA, as Saddam was no threat to USA.

Non-Saddam terror groups in Iraq were not even one of the reasons-to-invade lies from dubya and dickhead. Saddam=Terror
Saddam=WTC
... now THOSE were 2 lies that were told.

(another lie and liar, dickhead said just like week he sure there are WMD in Iraq :lol )

After the invasion, the AQ/AQI groups killed a lot of Americans who wouldn't have been killed if dubya had not invaded for oil and needlessly exposed US troops to combat.

All the while, the OBL-harboring Taleban weren't defeated by March 2003 and Afghanistan was not, and is still not, stable and "democratized". dubya has lost both countries.

[PEP]

hey Boutons, tell me again when you were on the ground in Iraq getting firsthand knowledge of the impact of the surge?