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04-30-2008, 04:34 PM
Phoenix Frustration: D'Antoni, Suns Fade Out Again
By J.A. Adande
ESPN.com
(Archive)

SAN ANTONIO -- If the Mike D'Antoni era of Phoenix Suns basketball is finished, it's because the Suns as an organization have stopped wondering why so many things go against them and ultimately realized that this series was lost due to mental mistakes and coaching decisions that were second-guessed within the locker room.

In the hours after the Suns were eliminated by the San Antonio Spurs in Game 5 Tuesday, 92-87, Sports Illustrated's Jack McCallum, citing sources within the organization, reported that D'Antoni's four-and-a-half year tenure with the Suns was over.

When the story keeps ending with the same result, at least one of the characters has to change. This is the third time in four seasons that the Spurs have bounced the Suns from the playoffs.

This time, more than ever, there was a feeling that the Suns betrayed themselves. This time, they felt their downfall wasn't fate or the league conspiring against them.


In the past, they haven't quite gotten the breaks they needed to get past the Spurs. They have never had their full lineup vs. San Antonio in the playoffs, whether it be Joe Johnson sitting out with a fractured eye socket in 2005, Steve Nash missing crucial possessions with his busted nose in Game 1 and Amare Stoudemire and Boris Diaw getting suspended for Game 5 last year, or a groin injury this year that limited Grant Hill to 68 minutes in three games.

Adding to the Suns' frustration was the lack of punishment for Kevin Garnett when he shoved an official and Kendrick Perkins and Marvin Williams when they stepped onto the court during a confrontation in Game 4 of Monday's Celtics-Hawks series. Where, they wondered, was this type of leniency last year when Stoudemire and Diaw made their little excursion from the bench?

They thought some critical calls didn't go their way Tuesday (doesn't every team?), but really they knew this was about committing four turnovers in the final two minutes in what had been a tied game. That's poor execution, which is normally the code word for "it's the players' fault." But there was a running undercurrent throughout the series that the Spurs' Gregg Popovich was the one who had his players mentally sharper and made the better moves, and the Suns kept finding ways to trace their woes back to strategic decisions.

Shaquille O'Neal and Nash both lobbied for D'Antoni through the media after the game, but Nash was also among those who said the Suns were hampered by their inability make defensive adjustments against Tony Parker in Game 3, and then by the decision to run the offense through Boris Diaw in the final two games.

Amare Stoudemire offered no words of support for D'Antoni -- "That's not my focus at all," Stoudemire said -- and was much more willing to expound on the need for the Suns to find a plan and stick with it, most importantly establishing who is going to be The Man on this team. Not surprisingly, he nominated himself.

Whoever coaches the team next season will have to deal with the issues associated with two key players who looked like shadows of the top two finishers in the 2005 Most Valuable Player voting: Nash and O'Neal.

Shaq is 36, and while he has adapted to his reduced status and filled the low-post defense role the Suns asked him to, the career-long weak spot in his game played a major role in this series. The Spurs went with the Extreme Hack-A-Shaq strategy, fouling him away from the ball to send him to the line, disrupting Phoenix's rhythm and forcing D'Antoni's hand on whether to keep him on the court. Tuesday, O'Neal accounted for 11 of the Suns' 17 missed free throws.

Nash, 34, never really put his stamp on the series. He had more turnovers than assists (5-3) in Game 5 and committed two of the Suns' three turnovers on consecutive possessions after they tied the score with two minutes remaining.

After Game 3 he said the constant stops for the Shaq fouls threw him off, and he admitted after Game 5 that he had trouble adjusting to the tactical switch to put the ball in Diaw's hands in the low post.

"He played great, we had a mismatch there," Nash said of his teammate, who had 42 points and 16 assists in the final two games.

"I think moreso than the strategy, it was just [getting] used to it. It got me a little out of sorts -- it was my own fault -- and I think it probably, as a team, we were going with something we weren't real familiar with when it really counted, and that probably was difficult for us."

Stoudemire, who scored only 22 points in the final two games, was more critical.

"If you're going to play a certain way in the playoffs, you've got to play that way during the whole season," Stoudemire said. "I felt like we changed a little bit in the playoffs, tried to slow it down. If we were going to play that way, we should have played that way the whole season, that way we would have been prepared for the playoffs."

He echoed Nash on the Diaw strategy, saying that Diaw played well and had an advantage against defenders such as Michael Finley and Manu Ginobili. But he didn't offer a ringing endorsement when he said: "The decision is made by the head coach. We've got to live with it."

There's a big difference between living with it and supporting it. Stoudemire said that next year the Suns should "find out who our go-to player is, find out who's going to have the ball in their hands, then go with it."

Asked if he wanted to be that go-to guy, he said: "Absolutely."

That gets back to an issue we talked about here last week, that the Suns never found an identity after the Shaq trade, something Nash implied Tuesday when he said, "I think we've got to really figure out who we are."

Making an acquisition as major as Shaquille O'Neal with two months left in the season didn't allow much time for self-discovery. Is it really fair to judge D'Antoni on a team he didn't have time to form into a unit? Should general manager Steve Kerr have come in after a year and overhauled a group and a system that's been in place for four years?

The responsibility lies with Suns owner Robert Sarver as well. And while Sarver did compliment D'Antoni's tie before the game, he hasn't offered much public support for his coaching lately.

A clue to what the Suns need to do next can be found in their assessment of what went wrong in this series.

Stoudemire joined every player who was interviewed in expressing a mixture of admiration for the Spurs' ability to make the right plays and regret that they couldn't do so themselves.

"This series we made too many crucial mistakes against a good team," O'Neal said.

"They beat us with the intangibles," Raja Bell said. "They beat us with the little things. They beat us with the gamesmanship, they beat us with the attention to detail, the game plan, the commitment to doing all of the little things that win games. That's why they're the champs. That's why, year-in and year-out, no matter what people say about them, they find a way to be right there in the mix and vying for a championship.

"We were just as good if not better than them as a talent and a physical team, but they were way ahead of us mentally. That's a tough pill to swallow. That's tough to know that somebody outsmarted you, outwitted you and just outdid you in the little parts of the game."

Said Stoudemire: "They were well-coached. They were well-ran. They knew their strategies. And they're the champs. You've got to give them their props."

Nash said it all traces back to Game 1, when the Suns played a great first half, then held the lead in the final minutes of regulation and the first overtime, only to let three-pointers extend the game and give the Spurs more chances to win.

"They were close to asking real questions about themselves," Nash said. "You could feel it in the crowd. We didn't close them out. You don't close them out, all of a sudden they get confidence in and a belief in themselves that makes a difference. And then all of those little championship qualities that they have allowed them to close us out instead of us closing them out."

Over the weekend D'Antoni likened Duncan's 3-pointer in Game 1 to some of Robert Horry's big shots and any number of other memorable playoff baskets.

"It changes history," D'Antoni said.

And in D'Antoni's case, it might make him history. At least as coach of the Suns.

So look for them to bring in someone -- Celtics assistant Tom Thibodeau, perhaps? -- who will emphasize defense and details, instead of DAntoni's up-tempo, offensive-oriented approach. The Suns will become a little bit more like everyone else, D'Antoni's grand experiment in the desert will officially go down as a failure because it didn't win a championship. And fans of fast-break ball will think there was never more truth to the words it was fun while it lasted.


J.A. Adande is an ESPN.com senior writer and the author of "The Best Los Angeles Sports Arguments." Click here to e-mail J.A.

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Agloco
04-30-2008, 04:44 PM
Phoenix Frustration: D'Antoni, Suns Fade Out Again
By J.A. Adande
ESPN.com
(Archive)

.....Over the weekend D'Antoni likened Duncan's 3-pointer in Game 1 to some of Robert Horry's big shots and any number of other memorable playoff baskets.

"It changes history," D'Antoni said.



Par for the course. What the hell else do you expect from the best PF to ever lace 'em up?

........... AND THE LEGEND GROWS................

duncan228
04-30-2008, 05:00 PM
Raja Bell summed it up nicely. This is who the Spurs are and why they've been so dominate in the Duncan era.


They beat us with the intangibles. They beat us with the little things. They beat us with the gamesmanship, they beat us with the attention to detail, the game plan, the commitment to doing all of the little things that win games. That's why they're the champs. That's why, year-in and year-out, no matter what people say about them, they find a way to be right there in the mix and vying for a championship.

We were just as good if not better than them as a talent and a physical team, but they were way ahead of us mentally. That's a tough pill to swallow. That's tough to know that somebody outsmarted you, outwitted you and just outdid you in the little parts of the game.

texbound
04-30-2008, 05:21 PM
"If you're going to play a certain way in the playoffs, you've got to play that way during the whole season," Stoudemire said. "I felt like we changed a little bit in the playoffs, tried to slow it down. If we were going to play that way, we should have played that way the whole season, that way we would have been prepared for the playoffs."

I think this is the main reason why Amare will never lead a team to a championship. After all these years he still hasn't figured out that the playoffs are a different animal. Games normally slow down because your playing the same team over and over again. Teams make adjustments and they adapt to what is given. If a team takes something away, you find something else to exploit. I thought Mike D. didn't exploit Boris Diaw enough in GM5.

Supergirl
04-30-2008, 05:40 PM
I suspect Amare's ego may be too big to be on a team with Nash, Shaq, and Diaw, who all could make an argument for being "the Man" on their team. I see this exploding at some point.

Nash, Diaw, and maybe Shaq can peacefully coexist, taking turns being the man and seeing it as a team effort.

All this makes me think of something that was suggested here weeks ago, that I agree with more and more: The Suns should have given up Amare for Shaq, rather than Marion.

jman3000
04-30-2008, 05:51 PM
maybe im wrong...but didnt joe johnson come back in that phx series and actually have some pretty good games?... i know he broke an orbital bone or something like that... and came back with the mask. i wanna say game 3 or 4 he came back.

i mean... we didnt have derek andersen against the lakers in 2001... and i believe robinson sat out a game or two due to back problems... nobody noted that shit when they swept us.

Obstructed_View
04-30-2008, 05:59 PM
maybe im wrong...but didnt joe johnson come back in that phx series and actually have some pretty good games?... i know he broke an orbital bone or something like that... and came back with the mask. i wanna say game 3 or 4 he came back.
JJ is the reason they won a game in that series. He was really good.


i mean... we didnt have derek andersen against the lakers in 2001... and i believe robinson sat out a game or two due to back problems... nobody noted that shit when they swept us.
Really, it's just a footnote anyway. You've gotta be good, you've gotta be healthy, and you've gotta be a little lucky. That's what always happens.

SPARKY
04-30-2008, 06:10 PM
Raja Bell summed it up nicely. This is who the Spurs are and why they've been so dominate in the Duncan era.

If not for RC, Bell would be in his 5th or so season as a Spur.