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GinobiliLooms
05-02-2008, 01:31 PM
about his ankle. Said he jammed it in game 2 against the Suns and it hasnt felt right since....

he's hoping it feels better within the next 24 hours....

this acording to KSAT 12 news.


Should he sit out game 1? I dont think he should but he risks reinjuring it and making things worse.

This is not good.:depressed

Deimosfobos
05-02-2008, 01:33 PM
Like I was not worried enough :(

jestersmash
05-02-2008, 01:35 PM
Try him out, see how effective he actually in the game, see how he feels afterwards. Based on the answers to those questions, make a decision. How he feels is probably first priority.

If, however, he says he feels "OK" but he's not producing anything in 10, 12, 15 minutes of play, then you might as well sit him out for the rest of the game so he can rest fully.

xtremesteven33
05-02-2008, 01:36 PM
i would sit him out game 1 just to be on the safe side....we can still win game 1 but if we lose its not a total loss....

spursfaninla
05-02-2008, 01:37 PM
Why did he practice then, instead of sitting out like Tony?

Damn manu, heal!

Kori Ellis
05-02-2008, 01:37 PM
He wasn't even held out of practice yesterday. So I don't think it's serious enough for him to be held out of the game. He's not 100% but very few players are right now.

stealth21
05-02-2008, 01:37 PM
Sit him.......Tim and Tony and Bruce can handle game 1, Manu must be as healthy as possible to get this series.
Barry and Fin can make up some points.
Even if we lose, the big picture > one game.

Bartleby
05-02-2008, 01:38 PM
Why did he practice then, instead of sitting out like Tony?

Damn manu, heal!

Good point. By "not right" maybe he just means it's not anywhere near 100% but he can still play on it.

dbreiden83080
05-02-2008, 01:38 PM
IF he practiced how the hell hurt can he be, Tony has bumps and bruises and sat out. Sounds like Tony is worse off than Manu right now.

T Park
05-02-2008, 01:39 PM
If hes practicing, hes fine.

Manu is concerned about alot of stuff.

timvp
05-02-2008, 01:39 PM
Hopefully Manu can get back to 100% ASAP. The Spurs can't win the championship with an unhealthy Manu.


this acording to KSAT 12 news.Hopefully Blaze can get this video . . .

timvp
05-02-2008, 01:41 PM
Are there any Argentine reports regarding Manu's health since the PHX series? Manu usually gives updates to Argentina before here.

jestersmash
05-02-2008, 01:42 PM
The problem is this - Ginobili seems like the sort of person who might downplay his injury as much as possible because he really wants to help his team out and doesn't want to disappoint them.

He had a great game in game 3, but I definitely saw him limping on the court a few times after he jumped up high to get a rebound or keep the ball from going out of bounds.

The only thing I have to go by is watching him limp down the court for a few hops (he promptly looked "normal" again soon after, though). Technically speaking, this doesn't tell me much, but I wouldn't put it past Ginobili to downplay his injury just so he can stay in the game and try to help his team win.

I'm hoping that those limps down the court made his injury seem deceptively more serious than it actually is.

I guess we'll see tomorrow how things play out.

rascal
05-02-2008, 01:45 PM
Play him. Its the playoffs and no reason to be conservative.

degenerate_gambler
05-02-2008, 01:47 PM
Should he sit out game 1? I dont think he should but he risks reinjuring it and making things worse.

This is not good.:depressed



You do NOT sit about anyone that can walk on two legs in the playoffs...

GinobiliLooms
05-02-2008, 01:49 PM
Ok so say the Spurs play him like normal and he ends up screwing his ankle up even more and then he's out for the entire series.....

seems an awful big gamble.

Kori Ellis
05-02-2008, 01:50 PM
Ok so say the Spurs play him like normal and he ends up screwing his ankle up even more and then he's out for the entire series.....

seems an awful big gamble.

If it was that serious, he wouldn't be practicing. Yesterday the Spurs had a long, grueling practice and Manu wasn't held out - Tony was. So I don't think his injury is that serious. He has a tweaked ankle and groin. He's probably just going to have to battle through it.

Bartleby
05-02-2008, 01:50 PM
Ok so say the Spurs play him like normal and he ends up screwing his ankle up even more and then he's out for the entire series.....

seems an awful big gamble.

Or, don't play him and all the Spurs can watch the next series from home.

GinobiliLooms
05-02-2008, 01:52 PM
ok. knowing he practiced yesterday is a good sign. I wonder why then they even made it an issue worthy of air time on the news...

Kori Ellis
05-02-2008, 01:53 PM
ok. knowing he practiced yesterday is a good sign. I wonder why then they even made it an issue worthy of air time on the news...

Probably just trying to create drama.

I don't know if he practiced today. I'm sure the Spurs didn't have a heavy practice today though.

timvp
05-02-2008, 01:53 PM
Ginobili at 50% is better than no Ginobili. The only way he doesn't play is if he can't walk.

Argiebabe
05-02-2008, 01:54 PM
Are there any Argentine reports regarding Manu's health since the PHX series? Manu usually gives updates to Argentina before here.

Nope... nothing....
:depressed

IŽll let u know as soon as something comes out on the press

Brutalis
05-02-2008, 01:55 PM
Manu is a sissy. It shows in the videos of Tim pulling his hair.

Dude is metrosexual on top of being sensitive.

Nothing wrong with it.

But he's fine.

timvp
05-02-2008, 01:59 PM
Nope... nothing....
:depressed

IŽll let u know as soon as something comes out on the pressThanks.




Manu is a sissy.:nope

hater
05-02-2008, 02:01 PM
I hope he is just concerned because he wants to be 100% for the olympics.

Argiebabe
05-02-2008, 02:03 PM
I hope he is just concerned because he wants to be 100% for the olympics.

AMEN!!!!!!!!!
Gosh I canŽt wait for the olympics....

ducks
05-02-2008, 02:04 PM
sit him out in game one get him healthy to play game 2

Brutalis
05-02-2008, 02:04 PM
Thanks.



:nope

Not literally but sissy as in sensitive.

ducks
05-02-2008, 02:04 PM
AMEN!!!!!!!!!
Gosh I canŽt wait for the olympics....

yeah because repeating champs and supporting to his that is paying him over 10 million this year should not be in his first interst

GinobiliLooms
05-02-2008, 02:05 PM
I think hater was being ironical

boutons_
05-02-2008, 02:08 PM
Pop and the trainers certainly know Manu's status more accurately than anything quoted in the press. If he's practicing, then that sounds OK.

hater
05-02-2008, 02:08 PM
yeah because repeating champs and supporting to his that is paying him over 10 million this year should not be in his first interst

sorry but making his millions of countrymen happy and making world history beats any kind of money.

and I was not being ironical. I'm hoping that is his concern, because if not, that means he is really hurt even for NBA play

GinobiliLooms
05-02-2008, 02:11 PM
ok then.

timvp
05-02-2008, 02:11 PM
I hope he is just concerned because he wants to be 100% for the olympics.If that's the case, that'd be amazingly lame.

T Park
05-02-2008, 02:13 PM
I highly doubt hes talking about the olympics.

Argiebabe
05-02-2008, 02:15 PM
sorry but making his millions of countrymen happy and making world history beats any kind of money.

and I was not being ironical. I'm hoping that is his concern, because if not, that means he is really hurt even for NBA play


Ok.... first of all, Manu mentioned lots of times that there was nothing better than playing for our NT and winnning gold medals, that said... he also stated that he wants to stay in the spurs till the end of his career and win as many championships as possible.
He wants it all!:ihit

hater
05-02-2008, 02:17 PM
Manu mentioned lots of times that there was nothing better than playing for our NT and winnning gold medals

thanks for supporting my point.

anyway my bad, let's forget about that and concentrate on game 1. I am sure manu is doing the same.

Deimosfobos
05-02-2008, 02:19 PM
Anyone who thinks Manu is thinking about the olympics atm, does not know Manu at all.

Besides, I'm argentine, and a Spurs fan, and if I would have to choose, I would take the ring this year over the gold for sure. Manu already gave more to our NT than we ever spected, I'm personally gratefull for life to him.

hater
05-02-2008, 02:20 PM
Anyone who thinks Manu is thinking about the olympics atm, does not know Manu at all.

Besides, I'm argentine, and a Spurs fan, and if I would have to choose, I would take the ring this year over the gold for sure. Manu already gave more to our NT than we ever spected, I'm personally gratefull for life to him.

I am not argentine and if I had to choose I would choose a ring too.

but anyone who thinks the olympics are not in the back of manu's head does not know manu at all.

Deimosfobos
05-02-2008, 02:26 PM
but anyone who thinks the olympics are not in the back of manu's head does not know manu at all.

What I'll eat tomorow night is also in the back of my head, but that doesn't mean shit. I'm not thinking about it and you can bet I'm not concerned about it.
All I'm thinking/concerned right now is about the work I have to do right now, so is Manu.

bus driver
05-02-2008, 02:33 PM
no!!!!

seems like i need to pull out a prayer to St. Brigid of Ireland


oh ya, f^ck the olympics! i want 5 for my team!

:flag::lobt2::flag:

wildbill2u
05-02-2008, 02:52 PM
Manu will not ask for a rest because he is a warrior. He'd want to play if he was on crutches. And he'd be better than even money to make a crucial foul shot in the last seconds even on crutches.

WalterBenitez
05-02-2008, 02:55 PM
:( I am not in a mood for jokes, is he right?

DAF86
05-02-2008, 03:16 PM
I hope he is just concerned because he wants to be 100% for the olympics.

No that doesn't sound like Manu.

GinobiliLooms
05-02-2008, 03:16 PM
not a joke. I wouldn't joke about something like this.

DAF86
05-02-2008, 03:40 PM
If it was that serious, he wouldn't be practicing. Yesterday the Spurs had a long, grueling practice and Manu wasn't held out - Tony was. So I don't think his injury is that serious. He has a tweaked ankle and groin. He's probably just going to have to battle through it.

Do you know what Manu did on that practice? Maybe he didn't want to miss the practice to regain some confidence on his shooting touch, his jumper looked awfull the last couple of games.

Manu isn't a drama queen, every time he said he's hurt he ended up missing games. I'm really worried.

BlackSwordsMan
05-02-2008, 03:43 PM
''If he dies, he dies''

GinobiliLooms
05-02-2008, 03:54 PM
His jumper is off because he isn't able to generate any lift off his injured ankle. ever tried to take a jump shot on a bad ankle? It hurts like a MFer.

TMTTRIO
05-02-2008, 04:25 PM
his interview is up at Spurs.com. Manu said that now there is no time to heal it so it sounds that Manu's just going to give what he's got. It sounds like it's not getting better but he said it's not getting worse and that he won't sit out unless he thinks he can't help out at all.

greens
05-02-2008, 04:26 PM
his interview is up at Spurs.com. Manu said that now there is no time to heal it so it sounds that Manu's just going to give what he's got. It sounds like it's not getting better but he said it's not getting worse and that he won't sit out unless he thinks he can't help out at all.


So he will play?

ducks
05-02-2008, 04:28 PM
where is the thread or concern tp did not practice but manu did

spurschick
05-02-2008, 04:29 PM
You know he'll do his best. All this means is that the rest of the bench needs to step it up. All Hail the Mango Tree.

DAF86
05-02-2008, 04:30 PM
where is the thread or concern tp did not practice but manu did

That's my question to you

duncan228
05-02-2008, 04:30 PM
where is the thread or concern tp did not practice but manu did

http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=93856

Parker does not seem as hurt as Manu.

greens
05-02-2008, 04:30 PM
where is the thread or concern tp did not practice but manu did



There is a whole article and thread about TP not practicing actually:
http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=93856

(p.s. And Manu didn't even get an article...) :lol

T Park
05-02-2008, 04:31 PM
3 days isn't enough?

I doubt that.

Once again, he wasn't held out of practice.

Does that sound like a guy thats iffy for game 1?

Kori Ellis
05-02-2008, 04:35 PM
If Manu was that hurt, the Spurs wouldn't be allowing him to practice. He ran a full practice yesterday and it was one of the hardest practices of the year.

Basically, he's saying the same stuff he usually says when he's banged up. That he's going to play through it because he thinks he can contribute. That he's not 100 percent (obviously). That if he's ever hurting the team, that would be the time he wouldn't play, but he thinks he can help. And the injury isn't getting worse.

Kori Ellis
05-02-2008, 04:37 PM
3 days isn't enough?

I doubt that.

Once again, he wasn't held out of practice.

Does that sound like a guy thats iffy for game 1?

I don't see anywhere saying that he's iffy for game 1.

ducks
05-02-2008, 04:37 PM
That's my question to you

I have allergies and they are killing me
:depressed:depressed

T Park
05-02-2008, 04:38 PM
I don't see anywhere saying that he's iffy for game 1.


Not missing, but like, isn't gonna be able to bring at least what he brought in games 2 and 3.

I think thats what he brings saturday is a remake of game 2 or 3 honestly.

T Park
05-02-2008, 04:39 PM
If Manu was that hurt, the Spurs wouldn't be allowing him to practice. He ran a full practice yesterday and it was one of the hardest practices of the year.

Basically, he's saying the same stuff he usually says when he's banged up. That he's going to play through it because he thinks he can contribute. That he's not 100 percent (obviously). That if he's ever hurting the team, that would be the time he wouldn't play, but he thinks he can help. And the injury isn't getting worse.

Just curious, when is Manu EVER 100%?

Maybe on the 13th of August, and even then in the backyard pool basketball game he probobly hurts his upper back from shooting so much.

Kori Ellis
05-02-2008, 04:40 PM
Not missing, but like, isn't gonna be able to bring at least what he brought in games 2 and 3.

I think thats what he brings saturday is a remake of game 2 or 3 honestly.

Well, he got hurt in Game 2. He'll play hard as he can. He might be ineffective like in Game 5, or be able to contribute quite well. But he won't be Super Manu unless he recovers overnight, which isn't likely with an ankle jam.

DAF86
05-02-2008, 04:40 PM
I have allergies and they are killing me
:depressed:depressed

I hope you get well for tomorrow, we're going to need you at full strength.

Kori Ellis
05-02-2008, 04:41 PM
Just curious, when is Manu EVER 100%?

He's not, which is my point.

It's not serious enough to hold him out of practice.
But it's serious enough that he probably won't be at his very best.

DAF86
05-02-2008, 04:44 PM
Just curious, when is Manu EVER 100%?

Since 2002 (the year he injured his ankle in the WC) he's never been 100%.

TMTTRIO
05-02-2008, 04:45 PM
Actually Manu said the other night that he's felt prety good all year until now.

T Park
05-02-2008, 04:50 PM
I think game 5 was more due to him being in foul trouble, than health, in his ability to play well.

If he can get going early in game 1 against New Orleans, adrenaline and whatever else will help him carry on, I'm more than confident

nfg3
05-02-2008, 04:50 PM
OK he's hurt but so are most at this time. Everyone is banged up to some degree or another. If he was practicing then I think he will be alright. I can't see Pop deliberately risking serious injury to Manu anytime even though this is the playoffs. If Manu is hurting more that he is letting on as some seem to think then it will become evident to Pop as the game goes on if he hasn't already noticed it during practice.

vanvannen
05-02-2008, 04:50 PM
Manu is a drama queen. :princess

Kori Ellis
05-02-2008, 04:51 PM
I think game 5 was more due to him being in foul trouble, than health, in his ability to play well.

I don't. He was noticeable limping and didn't have any lift.

T Park
05-02-2008, 04:52 PM
I don't. He was noticeable limping and didn't have any lift.

He must've gotten rehurt in game 4 then, because he looked great in game 3.

The game after he jammed his ankle.

Kori Ellis
05-02-2008, 04:54 PM
He must've gotten rehurt in game 4 then, because he looked great in game 3.

The game after he jammed his ankle.

Yeah game 3 or 4, he re-tweaked his groin too. In general, he was really banged up by Game 5. So was Tony, obviously.

T Park
05-02-2008, 04:59 PM
Yeah Tony near the end of game 5 looked tired and was ready for a day off.

The 3 days off IMO will have those batteries more than recharged.
Duncan will be MORE than ready to go, as will the other old goats.

I think if Ginobili was THAT badly hurt that it was affecting his play, THAT badly? He wouldn't have practiced.

Just my opinion.

SouthernFried
05-02-2008, 05:07 PM
I dunno about the Spurs training and their "expertise" on players injuries.

They let Barry came back waaay too soon.

Thing is, I dunno if Manu's injury gets much better sitting out...it's been bothering him for awhile now...and it shows.

PDXSpursFan
05-02-2008, 06:10 PM
Damn it!!! :bang We need Ginobili to be healthy. He's the better mis-match we can exploid against NO.

BonnerDynasty
05-02-2008, 06:27 PM
Manu needs no ankles.





Manu wants no ankles.




Manu breaks all ankles.

ShoogarBear
05-02-2008, 07:21 PM
In retrospect, I'm amazed that it took this long for the GinobiliLooms s/n.

Spurs Brazil
05-02-2008, 09:11 PM
Manu interview here:

http://www.nba.com/spurs/news/playoffs_2008.html

GinobiliLooms
05-03-2008, 01:22 AM
These positive comments are making me feel better about the situation....

Perhaps Manu comes out and drops 40. .. Bad ankle and all.. :smokin

ManuTim_best of Fwiendz
05-03-2008, 01:49 AM
Manu will be fine I think. Hopefully he gets stronger along the way and doesn't reinjure anything so we can keep competing in the post-season.
As long as he's on the court for the defenses to mind, we'll be good.
I just hope the whole team plays well tomorrow.

Steve_Javie
05-03-2008, 02:43 AM
If I have anything to say about it, Manu will be responsible for a crucial foul!!!

pawe
05-03-2008, 02:43 AM
It's just their way of telling Fin to man up and better not mess up tom or else his ass is gonna get it. Manu's gonna be fine, he'll probably rely on his shooting rather than taking it to the rim.

wijayas
05-03-2008, 04:35 AM
Should he sit out game 1? I dont think he should but he risks reinjuring it and making things worse.

This is not good.:depressed

His pride might not allow him to sit. But if he can't help the team, he might be better off stay out of the game. Remember Grant Hill in Round 1? Yes, this is not good. :depressed :depressed :depressed

greyforest
05-03-2008, 06:38 AM
ok. knowing he practiced yesterday is a good sign. I wonder why then they even made it an issue worthy of air time on the news...

are you not used to local news? it is 90% sensationalist bullshit

GrandeDavid
05-03-2008, 08:31 AM
Give me a damn break, folks. Of course he's gonna play and he'll be fine. "Sit him out Game 1". Oh, ok. Let's give NO Game 1 and assume that Manu will magically be closer to 100% by Game 2 and that the Spurs will flip the switch and take Game 2.

No. Ginobili plays Game 1 unless its something serious, which it evidently is not since he practiced.

T Park
05-03-2008, 09:29 AM
It's just their way of telling Fin to man up and better not mess up tom or else his ass is gonna get it. Manu's gonna be fine, he'll probably rely on his shooting rather than taking it to the rim.

Don't mess up or his ass is gonna get it?

What next, would they send him to his room without his dinner?