All-Star Game: Would You Like To See N. America (Or U.S.) v. World?

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

I think this would be a great format for the NBA ASG. The marketing would be great - especially with the NBA's push for worldwide exposure. I'm going off without looking too much, so if I'm wrong on countries - forgive me. I'm going off the All-Star ballots here, but suggest others for sure.

United States

C - Shaquille O' Neal
C - Ben Wallace
C - Brad Miller
F - Jermaine O' Neal
F - Amare Stoudamire
F - Kevin Garnett
F - Tim Duncan
G - Ray Allen
G - Tracy McGrady
G - Kobe Bryant
G - Dwayne Wade
G - LeBron James

World

C - Yao Ming
C - Zydrunas Ilgauskas
C - Jamaal Magloire (?)
F - Dirk Nowitzki
F - Pau Gasol
F - Peja Stojakovic
F - Andrei Kirilenko
F - Hedo Turkoglu
G - Steve Nash
G - Tony Parker
G - Manu Ginobili
G - ?
G - ?

Whaddya think?

[SequSpur]

Why, so the US can get spanked some more?

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

No, so I can see you "Do the Hedo."

[Guru of Nothing]

?>Manu ????

[Sense]

I think this topic was reached at some point, and it was useless.

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

?>Manu ????

I left the computer room when I finished that up and had to get the laptop. Brain fart.

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

I think this topic was reached at some point, and it was useless.

Boy, you're just full of positive comments, aren't you?

[exstatic]

The NBA generally markets Tim as being from abroad. It might actually be a game if he played for them.

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

Damnit, I'm not letting this thread die.

[cmurek]

Rest of the world will win. Why? They are not such a selfish players like americans!

[whottt]

Idiot.

[T Park]

They are not such a selfish players like americans!

Yeah Lebron James, very very selfish.

David Robinson was very very selfish too.


Come on Slovenian, be smarter than that.

[cmurek]

Yeah, same compliment to you whott!

[whottt]

I hope they aren't bigoted idiots like youself, otherwise they will be too fucking stupid to even find the stadium, much less win the fucking game.

Shut the fuck up bigot. And get off this American board.

[cmurek]

Olympics!

[whottt]

And for the 1 trillionth time...I don't give a flying fuck what the NBA says...

The Virgin Islands are a US territory, their top official is a US Govenor, just like our President once was, they have representatives in Congress, their people are US citizens.

[whottt]

Olympics!

Um...the rest of the World didn't beat us...the Argentinians's did...stop bandwaggoning their achievement and stop demeaning it by acting like any international team could have done it.

And furthermore, we didn't lose because of selfishness. That's a stupid fucking take and it's even stupider when you think that being born on this soil determines whether or not a player has a selfish game.

What you just did is a form of generalizing ignorance, just like racism, facism, religious persecution, Nazism and every other form of stupidity invented by you Europeans.

What will you do if you don't win? Exterminate us? Burn us in the ovens?

[cmurek]

I hope they aren't bigoted idiots like youself, otherwise they will be too fucking stupid to even find the stadium, much less win the fucking game.

Shut the fuck up bigot. And get off this American board.

Thx for this! Same wishes back to you! And this must be your experience! Someday you will find a way in Stadium! You are far away, but dont stop!

[T Park]

ok now hes just, saying nothing.

[cmurek]

Um...the rest of the World didn't beat us...the Argentinians's did...stop bandwaggoning their achievement and stop demeaning it by acting like any international team could have done it.

And furthermore, we didn't lose because of selfishness. That's a stupid fucking take and it's even stupider when you think that being born on this soil determines whether or not a player has a selfish game.

What you just did is a form of generalizing ignorance, just like racism, facism, religious persecution, Nazism and every other form of stupidity invented by you Europeans.

What will you do if you don't win? Exterminate us? Burn us in the ovens?


You are so pretty when you are mad! One frendly adwise! Get a specialist help. Maybe is still a chance for you!

[Spurbanana]

Hey, when all the NBA does is market Allen Iverson, Kobe Bryant, and the other selfish players overseas, what do you expect people in other countries to think of American players?

[ALVAREZ6]

I agree with cmurek.

The NBA game is normally a slower paced game than an international game, and with less passion....

BUT last night, that was crazy, that was 100% fast break action, I loved it, that was an international game.

[ALVAREZ6]

Hey, when all the NBA does is market Allen Iverson, Kobe Bryant, and the other selfish players overseas, what do you expect people in other countries to think of American players?
It's not about that dude.

The NBA players do what's best for them, and they leave teams because they aren't paid enough or if they are tired of losing etc.

In international games, you don't care how many points you score or any of that, just the team winning.

[Spurbanana]

Yes, that's true also! :lol

[cmurek]

Alvarez you get the point :smokin

Internationals are much more team players. When they are young they get in their heads that the team is the first!

[whottt]

Hey, when all the NBA does is market Allen Iverson, Kobe Bryant, and the other selfish players overseas, what do you expect people in other countries to think of American players?


Oh, so the NBA's marketing program is an excuse for bigotry? Great logic there.

The NBA markets players that are popular, and many of those players are just as popular over there...as is the music of the hip hop generation...don't blame the NBA for that...


And furthermore, what exactly is so seflish about AI? The fact that he actually wanted to play for team USA?

And don't bring up Kobe either...True, Kobe is arrogant...but he grew up in Europe.

[whottt]

I agree with cmurek.

The NBA game is normally a slower paced game than an international game, and with less passion....

Bullshit on the subject of passion...

And guess what? This game would be played using the NBA game...not the international game.






BUT last night, that was crazy, that was 100% fast break action, I loved it, that was an international game.

It was? I don't see too many Amare's in the international game...or even Manu's for that matter...

Furthermore, when was the last time that style of ball won an NBA championship?

It was about 20 years ago and the only reason it won then was because the team that did it had a freak 6'9 260lb Point Guard who also just happened to be the most unstoppable post up PG in history....not to mention Kareem.

For a better example of this...that was a Suns style game, a Mavericks style game...those teams not only are they NBA teams, not international teams, but they also haven't won shit yet...


That style of ball was popular in the USA 35 years ago, don't try and act like you guys just invented it.


How in the fuck can you guys try and claim NBA ball is selfish when you sit here and root for a team that disproves that very fact...

The Piston's weren't selfish either.

[whottt]

You are so pretty when you are mad! One frendly adwise! Get a specialist help. Maybe is still a chance for you!

You're a bigot...

If you had been born in America you'd have been the type of American that was fighting against civil rights and abolishing slavery...because "they" are inferior.

[whottt]

For those of you who still don't get it...

Tim Duncan: fouls out in 5 minutes in international games.
Tim Duncan: Wins MVP awards and NBA titles in NBA games.

This would be an NBA game...


And BTW, if Duncan is an international player it sure is ironic, because he hates the international rules and FIBA.

[cmurek]

You're a bigot...

If you had been born in America you'd have been the type of American that was fighting against civil rights and abolishing slavery...because "they" are inferior.


:lol You are very funny man, you know!

[polandprzem]

What a bullshit all around.

[Phenomanul]

I think this would be a great format for the NBA ASG. The marketing would be great - especially with the NBA's push for worldwide exposure. I'm going off without looking too much, so if I'm wrong on countries - forgive me. I'm going off the All-Star ballots here, but suggest others for sure.

United States

C - Shaquille O' Neal
C - Ben Wallace
C - Brad Miller
F - Jermaine O' Neal
F - Amare Stoudamire
F - Kevin Garnett
F - Tim Duncan
G - Ray Allen
G - Tracy McGrady
G - Kobe Bryant
G - Dwayne Wade
G - LeBron James

World

C - Yao Ming
C - Zydrunas Ilgauskas
C - Jamaal Magloire (?)
F - Dirk Nowitzki
F - Pau Gasol
F - Peja Stojakovic
F - Andrei Kirilenko
F - Hedo Turkoglu
G - Steve Nash
G - Tony Parker
G - Manu Ginobili
G - ?
G - ?

Whaddya think?

G - Raúl Lopez
G - Carlos Arroyo