So the Hornets win one Playoff Series and...

[honestfool84]

they think they can beat the world champs.


I hate how cocky a team gets.

However, I do love them coming into this series and thinking they are just as good, if not better, as the freaking-world-champion Spurs.


This isn't to say that the Hornets will be easy, or as seemingly "easy" as the Suns; however, they have no room to speak as they speak.



Spurs in five.

[El_Mago]

Seriously, over at Hornetsreport, they think the Hornets are taking the Spurs out in FIVE!

They seem to be hanging their hopes on the regular season results and that we are OLD.....how many times have we heard this before?

[honestfool84]

Seriously, over at Hornetsreport, they think the Hornets are taking the Spurs out in FIVE!

They seem to be hanging their hopes on the regular season results and that we are OLD.....how many times have we heard this before?



are you serious?

give me a link!

[rwb]

Actually, the only thing I've heard from the New Orleans organization so far has been nothing but respect for the Spurs. Of course they're going to say they can beat us...that'd be kind of weird if they didn't. Expecting to go into the series to get their asses kicked and sharing it with the world would be kind of defeatist, don't you think?

I expect a good, relatively clean series. The Hornets have admitted they're trying to emulate the Spurs because selflessness, teamwork and keeping their cool wins championships. They probably feel like if they can beat the Spurs, they can beat anyone, and I don't see them rolling over and giving up like the Mavs and the Nuggets did. That's why the Celtics can't go all the way. Seriously, they have to go to a 7th game in the First Round against the Hawks? That ought to take out a serious chunk of their confidence, and Paul Pierce's body language after he fouled out last night spoke volumes.

I think the Hornets will use this playoff series against the Spurs as a learning opportunity for next year. You can't tell me Lebron's experience in 2007 isn't helping him right now. Chris Paul will do the same and will only get better. I'll be shocked if NO can knock off the Spurs, even with home court advantage. But I'd rather be beaten by a young team who respects their opponent than a bunch of publicity-hungry, chest-thumping, media darling major market players that will only be good for ratings, not for people who love to see a great-played series.
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[rwb]

Oh, and what the fans say and what the team says--as we know--can be two different things. I don't blame the Hornets for what their fans say anymore than I can blame the Spurs for a lot of the people on SpursTalk say.

[BonnerDynasty]

It's hilarious seeing Hornets fans go to S.A. city smack on other boards.

N.O.? Really? Damn.

hahahaha

[MONTENEGRINO]

Spurs in 4. Much eassier than most of people think...

[Teal Street]

We will revisit this thread tonight.

[MajicMan]

Thread title misleading. You talking bout they fans man.

[Guajalote]

I wouldn't expect them to come into this series thinking "Gosh, we're sure lucky to be in the same gym as the Spurs." But, I see a lot of the same fan bravado as when the Saints were doing so well two years ago.

[JOE in NO]

I hate how cocky a team gets.


Who's cocky? The Hornets? Hardly...

I'd only call a team cocky if they expect to win. The Hornets don't expect to win, but they know they'll talented enough to pull it off. The Spurs on the other hand DO expect to win and THAT is cocky.

[Teal Street]

Thread title misleading. You talking bout they fans man.

Doesn't matter the team thinks it can beat the Spurs too. Difference is they are not going to come right out and say it like say oh "Dirk" would. Their play will do all their talking. As for the Fans in New Orleans I would say they have just as many homers there as this board does.

[O-Factor]

Who's cocky? The Hornets? Hardly...

I'd only call a team cocky if they expect to win. The Hornets don't expect to win, but they know they'll talented enough to pull it off. The Spurs on the other hand DO expect to win and THAT is cocky.

Uh, where have you been the last decade??? Winning is what the Spurs do.

The regular season(pre-season for Spurs) is over. This is a different ball club than the one the hornets faced in the "regular season"......but you'll see.

[ChumpDumper]

Who's cocky? The Hornets? Hardly...

I'd only call a team cocky if they expect to win. The Hornets don't expect to win, but they know they'll talented enough to pull it off. The Spurs on the other hand DO expect to win and THAT is cocky.If the Hornets don't expect to win, they are pussies.

I don't believe that for a second.

[WildcardManu]

Who's cocky? The Hornets? Hardly...

I'd only call a team cocky if they expect to win. The Hornets don't expect to win, but they know they'll talented enough to pull it off. The Spurs on the other hand DO expect to win and THAT is cocky.

That's what happens when your team is elite for an extended period of time. If the Hornets manage to do what the Spurs have done in the last ten years, you will love the feeling. I like Chris Paul and the Hornets and am not bashing on them, but when it comes to the Spurs, they are first in my list.

[Teal Street]

Uh, where have you been the last decade??? Winning is what the Spurs do.

The regular season(pre-season for Spurs) is over. This is a different ball club than the one the hornets faced in the "regular season"......but you'll see.

Blah Blah Blah. This team in its present form is 3 years old.We used to have the oldest team before that instead of the Spurs but we cleaned house and started over. Now is our beginning and the Hornets have caught the NBA by surprise this year wouldn't you say? They will not back down because of your glorious past. Prove it on the floor starting tonight. We are not the Suns. We owned the Suns x4 this year so put those comparisons out of your mind.

[ChumpDumper]

Now is our beginning and the Hornets have caught the NBA by surprise this year wouldn't you say?No, I wouldn't say that.

[Teal Street]

And I wouldnt say the Hawks would have taken Boston to game 7 either. Youth and "needing respect" + Talent can be a pretty big force if channeled correctly.

[MajicMan]

Uh, where have you been the last decade??? Winning is what the Spurs do.

The regular season(pre-season for Spurs) is over. This is a different ball club than the one the hornets faced in the "regular season"......but you'll see.

You shouldn't be so cocky either. Spurs have never repeated.

[ChumpDumper]

WGAF about whether a fan is cocky?

You fans of other teams are so sensitive.

[Cherry]

Who's cocky? The Hornets? Hardly...

I'd only call a team cocky if they expect to win. The Hornets don't expect to win, but they know they'll talented enough to pull it off. The Spurs on the other hand DO expect to win and THAT is cocky.

link?

Spurs say nothing about that. This series is a new start.

[MajicMan]

WGAF about whether a fan is cocky?

You fans of other teams are so sensitive.

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[td4mvp21]

I don't really think either team has been cocky towards each other.

[reck21]

I dont want to get cocky or anything but I dont think the Hornets can win in our house. If they're going to win a game it'll be in their home-court so they better take advantage of that.

My prediction:

Spurs win 1 of these 2 games in New Orleans.

[Teal Street]

I dont want to get cocky or anything but I dont think the Hornets can win in our house. If they're going to win a game it'll be in their home-court so they better take advantage of that.

My prediction:

Spurs win 1 of these 2 games in New Orleans.

We won by 20 in your house. It was Dallas where we never won in 10 years. Hornets have been superb on the road this year.

[Agloco]

Blah Blah Blah. This team in its present form is 3 years old.We used to have the oldest team before that instead of the Spurs but we cleaned house and started over. Now is our beginning and the Hornets have caught the NBA by surprise this year wouldn't you say? They will not back down because of your glorious past. Prove it on the floor starting tonight. We are not the Suns. We owned the Suns x4 this year so put those comparisons out of your mind.


Just as you should put regular season comparisons out of your mind.....

It seems that every year the Spurs need to indoctrinate a team to what it's like to play at this level. They play at a higher level in the playoffs. I guarantee they aren't the same team the Hornets played during the regular season.

The Hornets are about to be given a lesson in humility by the Champs. Spurs in 6

[Teal Street]

Just as you should put regular season comparisons out of your mind.....

It seems that every year the Spurs need to indoctrinate a team to what it's like to play at this level.

The Hornets are about to be given a lesson in humility by the Champs. Spurs in 6

Perfect quote thanks.

[ChumpDumper]

We won by 20 in your house. It was Dallas where we never won in 10 years. Hornets have been superb on the road this year.You're cocky!

Shut up!

[VoiceofReason]

This thread has become . . . silly.

[reck21]

We won by 20 in your house. It was Dallas where we never won in 10 years. Hornets have been superb on the road this year.

This is true. But let me just say that they weren't playing at a playoff intesity.

The Hornets didn't get the real Spurs, I mean the 4 time champs.

This time around they'll get a tougher to score/guard Spurs team.

Again I'm not taking anything away frrom NO because I know they're good and will be a challenge but in the end the better team will reign over this series so we should wait and see.

[Kori Ellis]

they think they can beat the world champs.


I hate how cocky a team gets.

However, I do love them coming into this series and thinking they are just as good, if not better, as the freaking-world-champion Spurs.


This isn't to say that the Hornets will be easy, or as seemingly "easy" as the Suns; however, they have no room to speak as they speak.



Spurs in five.

What are you even talking about? The Hornets are cocky? They seem to be humble to me.

Anyway, your post doesn't even make sense.
You say you "hate" that they are cocky. But you "love" that they think they as good as the Spurs. :wtf
Bad thread.

[Teal Street]

The Hornets team is not cocky they are almost identical to the Spurs.

Their Play is also elevated in the post season. They won in Dallas and that just was not done during the regular season. Now the defending Champs are coming to town? Yeah we are going to play with regular season intensity. I think the Hornets know just exactly what the Spurs are bringing.

[Teal Street]

You're cocky!

Shut up!

Bite me

[reck21]

I think the Hornets know just exactly what the Spurs are bringing.

A world of hurt. You're right.

[Smirk]

I love fans who think acting like they have a big brass set will some how make their team better.

The mock indignation about "How dare the Hornets think they can roll with the greatest team to ever lace up!" is also pretty hilarious. Cocky? Stones. Glass Houses. Etc.

[01Snake]

Call me crazy but I think this is going to be a very tough series for SA.

[VoiceofReason]

This will be a great series. It will produce the Western Conference champ.

[duncan228]

This will be a great series. It will produce the Western Conference champ.

Cue Lakers fans...

[Allanon]

It's not hard to be cocky against the Spurs:
They're old
They're VERY old
Did I say they're old?

It's not hard to be cocky against the Hornets
They're mostly Playoff virgins
They've never won anything
They choked at the end of the season

But for some reason, both teams keep on winning, this should be a good series. The Spurs have the best 3-star team in the West, the Hornets have the best 4-star team in the West.

[reck21]

The Hornets dont know what is like to have a ton of pressure on you. They'll crack under it.

I.E that game they lost to the Mavs. They looked dazed and confused.

Chris Paul is your life line. If he doesn't produce then NO is dead fish.

[Teal Street]

The Hornets dont know what is like to have a ton of pressure on you. They'll crack under it.

I.E that game they lost to the Mavs. They looked dazed and confused.

Chris Paul is your life line. If he doesn't produce then NO is dead fish.

Well their shots were not falling that game it wasn't anything the Mavs were doing. They came back the next one and took care of business.

Chris Paul is our best player but what you said can apply to any other NBA team. Take away Kobe..., Lebron... etc. etc.

[reck21]

Well their shots were not falling that game it wasn't anything the Mavs were doing. They came back the next one and took care of business.

You're definately have a headwing under you. But I guess you deserve it since New Orleans is where is at right now.

Just dont cry when they lose. :ihit

You're talking as if the mavs didn't get that one win by shutting NO's defense. At least give them that, being cocky is not exactly helping your cause.

[Allanon]

Well their shots were not falling that game it wasn't anything the Mavs were doing. They came back the next one and took care of business.

This is the cockiness right thar. Gotta give the Mavs SOME credit for getting some passion in them if just for 1 game. Like the Lakers swept the Nuggets but in Game 4, the Nuggets almost gave the Lakers more than they could handle...that was the 50 win Nuggets right there. Give credit where it's due.

[Smirk]

I.E that game they lost to the Mavs. They looked dazed and confused.

Suns 105, Spurs 86.

Pretty bad argument on your part.

[reck21]

Suns 105, Spurs 86.

Pretty bad argument on your part.

Oh pardon me..I thought we were finshed with the Suns.

If you want to discuss that then we did the same to them on their home floor BTW.

[Teal Street]

Mine was an explanation why they looked dazed and confused, not why the Hornets lost game 3. Their shots were not falling and whenthat happens to you as a player it is pretty damn frustrating. They were missing wide open looks that game so go look at the tape. The Hornets expected the Mavs to be tough at home so there shouldn't be anything unexpected there that would bring that type of reaction on.

[ChumpDumper]

They lost game 3 because they were cocky!

[reck21]

How about they lost game 3 because they got outplayed?

[SAGambler]

I guess in about 7 1/2 hours, we'll see at least a glimpse of how this is going to play out.

If the Spurs grab HCA away tonight, Hornets may start jumping off ledges.

[Teal Street]

How about they lost game 3 because they got outplayed?

There is no disagreement here. The Hornets were out played in game 3. Read my response above.

My original comment was regarding the frustration level after the loss. Your comment
The Hornets dont know what is like to have a ton of pressure on you. They'll crack under it. simply does not apply to that game. Were there other games they were outplayed this year? sure but the key is how you react to it.

Here read what was said after that game yourself
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/spt/basketball/mavs/stories/042808dnspohornetssider.4118054.html

My discussion is NOT why they lost game 3. Make any sense?

[Darrin]

Go Spurs Go!

[honestfool84]

What are you even talking about? The Hornets are cocky? They seem to be humble to me.

Anyway, your post doesn't even make sense.
You say you "hate" that they are cocky. But you "love" that they think they as good as the Spurs. :wtf
Bad thread.


i just don't like when a team is cocky when they have yet to do anything more than win one playoff series.

at the same time, i love that they think they are just as good as the spurs, yet, again, they have not proved anything yet - they are so young that they don't realize that that regular season doesn't matter:

http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=93933

Tyson Chandler struggled with the idea that New Orleans could be favored in its second-round series against the defending champion San Antonio Spurs, even if the Hornets are the higher seed and have home-court advantage.

"I don't know if many players on this team consider themselves underdogs, but for some reason that's what we've been labeled as," Chandler said. "We're always going to be underdogs and we don't mind that. But people come around, it seems, when you start winning, so hopefully we can win some and get people to come around a little bit."

[Smirk]

Either English isn't your first language, or you failed reading comprehension in school.

[ManuTim_best of Fwiendz]

i just don't like when a team is cocky when they have yet to do anything more than win one playoff series.

at the same time, i love that they think they are just as good as the spurs, yet, again, they have not proved anything yet - they are so young that they don't realize that that regular season doesn't matter:

http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=93933

:dizzy

[DAF86]

I thought that after beating the crap out of the Suns people would learn that regular season games mean shit when it comes to the Spurs.

[ManuTim_best of Fwiendz]

I haven't paid enough attention to the Hornets to get that cockiness vibe, (or humbleness vibe) but from the few post games, interviews, I think you could say at times they have gotten overconfident.
But they're young, winning convincingly and that's expected, (even the Spurs have gotten overconfident at times in their team career.)

Overconfidence isn't really the same as cocky.


I will say CP3 is more emotional, and he did display some game cockiness in the Mavs series. Also watching them on court against the Mavs, they seem to be young and a little annoying, but it's their first year in the playoffs so whatever.

[honestfool84]

here - let me rephrase.

i can't stand when a team starts dreaming delusions cause they've WON ONE FREAKING PLAYOFF SERIES.

however, deep down inside i like that they think they're just as good as us, so that we can show them what playing in the WCF is really like.


make sense?

[ManuTim_best of Fwiendz]

here - let me rephrase.

i can't stand when a team starts dreaming delusions cause they've WON ONE FREAKING PLAYOFF SERIES.

however, deep down inside i like that they think they're just as good as us, so that we can show them what playing in the WCF is really like.


make sense?

Gotcha.

But every team is going to think, convince themselves that they're better than their opponent, (except for maybe the Mavs)

[Kori Ellis]

here - let me rephrase.

i can't stand when a team starts dreaming delusions cause they've WON ONE FREAKING PLAYOFF SERIES.

however, deep down inside i like that they think they're just as good as us, so that we can show them what playing in the WCF is really like.


make sense?

Not really. :lol

It wouldn't make any sense for the Hornets to NOT think they could win against the Spurs. They have to believe in themselves.

And I still haven't seen any cocky comments from them. But whatever ...

Definitely not thread worthy.

[honestfool84]

Gotcha.

But every team is going to think, convince themselves that they're better than their opponent, (except for maybe the Mavs)



true, but i think this can also be directed to their fans.

i understand it coming from laker/mav/sun fans - they've been somewhere, done something.

but hornet fans?
y'all keep on saying 'we've only been together three years' - yeah, ok - well once y'all have done something, then that's when you have room to talk.

[Kori Ellis]

true, but i think this can also be directed to their fans.

That might make more sense.

[honestfool84]

That might make more sense.


kori, i apologize.
i was just using this thread to vent my frustration - i've been a spurs fan ever since jordan left chicago (i wasn't a band wagoner - i was born there, and all that - but then i moved here during the second three-peat, and after he left, i started pulling for the home team, the spurs), and i know that we don't get a lot of respect from the national media and what not, but i still wish fans would give us a little bit more respect, considering we're going for our fifth title in 10 years - i mean, how many fans can really say that? in ANY sport?






its not wrong to have confidence, just don't be overconfident, young hornet fans.

[Smirk]

First of all, what are these "delusions" that you are talking about? Quote one of them. I'm willing to bet you can't, because they only exist in your head.

As CP3 just said, "the regular season series might have been 2-2, but right now its 0-0. If you go into a series thinking you're going to lose, you're already defeated."

Also, what does "having done something" in the past few years or ever have to do with anything? This year is the only one that matters. The Hornets beat the Spurs twice by more than twenty and won the division you're in, I would say that's "doing something".

If I was going to place money on this series, it would be on the Spurs. I think we have a really good shot, but I'm not totally confident. I can be intellectually honest. Can you be? Doubtful, as your act has worn thin.

[timvp]

This is an SR level thread.

[honestfool84]

Also, what does "having done something" in the past few years or ever have to do with anything? This year is the only one that matters. The Hornets beat the Spurs twice by more than twenty and won the division you're in, I would say that's "doing something".


by doing something, i mean in the playoffs.

[honestfool84]

This is an SR level thread.

again, i apologize for venting here.

you may freeze this thread.

i'm sorry.

[KillerBee]

[QUOTE=rwb;2456902]Actually, the only thing I've heard from the New Orleans organization so far has been nothing but respect for the Spurs. Of course they're going to say they can beat us...that'd be kind of weird if they didn't. Expecting to go into the series to get their asses kicked and sharing it with the world would be kind of defeatist, don't you think?

I expect a good, relatively clean series. The Hornets have admitted they're trying to emulate the Spurs because selflessness, teamwork and keeping their cool wins championships. They probably feel like if they can beat the Spurs, they can beat anyone, and I don't see them rolling over and giving up like the Mavs and the Nuggets did. That's why the Celtics can't go all the way. Seriously, they have to go to a 7th game in the First Round against the Hawks? That ought to take out a serious chunk of their confidence, and Paul Pierce's body language after he fouled out last night spoke volumes.

I think the Hornets will use this playoff series against the Spurs as a learning opportunity for next year. You can't tell me Lebron's experience in 2007 isn't helping him right now. Chris Paul will do the same and will only get better. I'll be shocked if NO can knock off the Spurs, even with home court advantage. But I'd rather be beaten by a young team who respects their opponent than a bunch of publicity-hungry, chest-thumping, media darling major market players that will only be good for ratings, not for people who love to see a great-played series.
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The 2 teams in the league with the fewest fouls, Technicals and ejections are playing in this series. We have nothing but respect for ya'll with the record you have accumulated the last 10 years. It would be like the respect you would have if UT was playing LSU in football...lol

[Smirk]

by doing something, i mean in the playoffs.

Like winning a series 4-1 and embarrassing a team so badly that they fire their coach the next day, even though the coach has one of the highest first 4 years winning percentage of any coach ever?

[honestfool84]

Like winning a series 4-1 and embarrassing a team so badly that they fire their coach the next day, even though the coach has one of the highest first 4 years winning percentage of any coach ever?


yeah.
i'm sorry.
i totally forgot about that series.

y'all fans have all the fire you need and all the reason to be so confident, cause you beat one team.

my apologies again, and good luck in this series.



pssssh. :lol

[pauls931]

Dude, they damn near got the best record in the West, so ya they should be confident. They swept Phoenix and split the series with the Spurs. They're good.

[honestfool84]

Dude, they damn near got the best record in the West, so ya they should be confident. They swept Phoenix and split the series with the Spurs. They're good.



ask the mavericks, warriors, celtics, and hawks if the best record in the conference, nba, or even top 10 in history matters in the playoffs.

[pauls931]

ask the mavericks, warriors, celtics, and hawks if the best record in the conference, nba, or even top 10 in history matters in the playoffs.

They went 4-1 just like you guys did the first round... And their record came in a stronger western conference that what the Mavs dealt with last year.

[honestfool84]

as napoleon once said, may the best army win.

[Teal Street]

Just as you should put regular season comparisons out of your mind.....

It seems that every year the Spurs need to indoctrinate a team to what it's like to play at this level. They play at a higher level in the playoffs. I guarantee they aren't the same team the Hornets played during the regular season.

The Hornets are about to be given a lesson in humility by the Champs. Spurs in 6

You know your right. There is nothing at all like this game when our two teams met in regular season. And we are much more humble tonight. Props

[2easy]

Yep. Game 1 was nothing like the regular season.

[DarrinS]

Go Spurs Go!


There's only room for one Darrin on this board.

just kidding.

[BiZNicK]

lol poor hornet fans

I wonder if the Nuggets thought they were going to win the series when they beat the Spurs in game 1 on the ROAD in 2005 and 2007. Hmm losing game 1 is nothing new to the spurs.

[Nolazach]

How good do the Spurs do after going down 2?

[hive_attack]

The Hornets are at another level of the Suns. I know from watching. Sucks for Spurs fans that the Hornets and Lakers are both better teams now.