Tony Parker............

[SequSpur]

is lost.

:pctoss

[SequSpur]

I want to have a legit discussion as to why Parker goes into the tank. What is it about this dude? Dude destroyed Phoenix here in the SBC center. Dude destroyed the Lakers and then failed to show up. Claxton and Kerr bailed him out against Dallas and New Jersey. WTF? Whats up with this kid?

[Man In Black]

Sequ wants to have a legit discussion?

That'll be the day.

[Sense]

2 points, that is pathetic.

Tony is doing terrible, and this is why we are losing.

All blame tony.

[texbumTHElife]

Tony Parker is not the right player for this offense. That is the bottom line. He needs to be in a fast break offense where he can utilize his speed and create plays on the run. Beno Udrih is a much better fit than Parker.

As much as I am a huge fan of Parker we should move him for an athletic big man and another back up point and move Udrih to starter.

[SequSpur]

Sequ wants to have a legit discussion?

That'll be the day.


Did you break up with Dusty or something?

[Spurgal]

is lost.

:pctoss

That's what happens when you date a desperate house wife.

[Man In Black]

Did you break up with Dusty or something?

Are you shrinking even more?

See what I mean. That was his idea of a legit response.

Classic.

I come and go as I please. It's called freedom.

[Spurminator]

He was due.

His back is sore from carrying this team for the last few weeks.

[SequSpur]

Are you shrinking even more?

See what I mean. That was his idea of a legit response.

Classic.

I come and go as I please. It's called freedom.


Since my username is banned on your forum, how about kissing my ass and staying out of a topic, that I have concern about. I have more freedom than you have anyday, because I speak freely and I have no problem with voicing my opinion unlike the likes of you and your team members.

Kiss my ass.

Stick to the topic.

[texbumTHElife]

I gave you a real reply sequ, maybe if you gave me the same you might earn some of the respect back from these guys.

[T Park]

This is Parker's first bad game in about, good lord 3 weeks??

Hes been due for one of these games for a long time.


Hell come back strong Sunday against Sacramento.

[T Park]

As much as I am a huge fan of Parker we should move him for an athletic big man

Trade an all star point for a big man like that that doesnt exist, and use an untested euro rookie in the playoffs/?


Makes alot ALOT of sense.

lol unfreakin real.

Trade an all star point guard, that makes allloooooottttt of sense.


Im surprised IceColdBrewski aint here to totally revel in Tony's bad game.

[SequSpur]

I gave you a real reply sequ, maybe if you gave me the same you might earn some of the respect back from these guys.


Woah.......

Noway you move Parker, how about Pop laying off the screaming at him and let him develop.

Every in bounds play, Parker is looking over at the bench for the play call. Most other teams don't do that. But most teams aren't as good as the Spurs. I think he needs a little freedom to create and such.

As for my comments previously, I apologize, but not to MIB. He knows exactly what my point is and his posse can kiss my ass.

[texbumTHElife]

Trade an all star point for a big man like that that doesnt exist, and use an untested euro rookie in the playoffs/?


Makes alot ALOT of sense.

lol unfreakin real.

Trade an all star point guard, that makes allloooooottttt of sense.


Im surprised IceColdBrewski aint here to totally revel in Tony's bad game.

All-star? Did he make the team this year? All-star or not the guy does not fit our system in my opinion. If you dont think Udrih will average around 20 minutes/game in the playoffs then your watching a different game.

None of this really matter though because as long as Tim continues to drag his ass on offense and defense this team isnt going anywhere. Sick or not he is actually hurting this team right now. Hopefully over the All-Star break he can actually get well and come back full strength.

I think Pop tnaked this game so he doesnt have to coach the All-Star game :lol

[Man In Black]

Since my username is banned on your forum, how about kissing my ass and staying out of a topic, that I have concern about. I have more freedom than you have anyday, because I speak freely and I have no problem with voicing my opinion unlike the likes of you and your team members.

Kiss my ass.

Stick to the topic.
Am i getting to you? It ain't mine and I didn't ban anybody :)

I'm voicing an opinion, you want to talk hoops? Bring it, I got game. And I'm taller than you too :)

As for Parker, he is a no show tonight because he expected to just go out and switch it on. Maybe since he is that close to LA, the housewife wrecked his evening (or made it better at least temporarily) but ultimately Big Nuts is as shrunken as you are :)

Hey Sequ....relax man, I'm just fuckin' with ya. I'm getting caught up on lost time.

[SequSpur]

Stick to the topic. I ain't in the fukkin mood right now. I want this game bad and I am upset that Parker didn't show up. Ask Kori why. I care alot about this guy and I am concerned.

[texbumTHElife]

Woah.......

Noway you move Parker, how about Pop laying off the screaming at him and let him develop.

Every in bounds play, Parker is looking over at the bench for the play call. Most other teams don't do that. But most teams aren't as good as the Spurs. I think he needs a little freedom to create and such.



That is exactly why I say he doesnt fit this offense.

Ok I would really hate to see us trade Parker, let me make that clear. I love the kid and love watching him play. I do however think we could find a better fit for this offense is all I meant to say.

[Sense]

It wouldn't be that bad to put Tony on the bench like Manu last year.

Just to show him to appreciate the spot and to hustle all the time, for consistency to kick in.

[T Park]

how about Pop laying off the screaming at him and let him develop.

awww, the poor baby cant take a wittle yelling.

If he cant, then the little shit SHOULD be traded. The stop yelling at him horseshit is just that, horseshit.

Your not gonna find a better point guard at the age of 22 for christ sake, for this team BTW.

So lets lay off the trade Parker BS.

[PM5K]

This is Parker's first bad game in about, good lord 3 weeks??

I'm sorry but when you are paid eleven million dollars a year you can't have games like this, I mean there is just no excuse....

[texbumTHElife]

I'm sorry but when you are paid eleven million dollars a year you can't have games like this, I mean there is just no excuse....

That is probably what is causing me to overreat...

That and the fact that Udrih is BLOWING UP the Suns right now.

[Man In Black]

Guys....look TP has shot now. There are 5 minutes left and PHX guards are getting tired. Now would be a good time for an infusion of SPEED.

SPEED CAN KILL. What you got TP?

[Mark in Austin]

What you got TP?

Apparently, the flu.


you might earn some of the respect back from these guys. Big words for somebody with 86 posts. You've got a lot of balls lecturing a vet like that, rookie. Ballsy. Stupid, but ballsy.

Now go get us some donuts.

[S4Spur21]

Wow.... TD was having an awful month, so that means we should of benched him like some of you say we should parker, although its 1 damn game......... wow :rolleyes

[slayermin]

I am disappointed that TP didn't kill Nash last night.

But it was Manu's night. TP just wasn't in the flow and if the offense isn't flowing through him, it's better to use Beno. Especially when Ginobili is on fire because Beno will defer to Manu.

Let us not overlook what Tony has accomplished the last month or so. He is still shooting over 49% from the field and dishing out 6 assists per game.

I expect Tony to put on a show in Sactown.

[Solid D]

That is exactly why I say he doesnt fit this offense.

Ok I would really hate to see us trade Parker, let me make that clear. I love the kid and love watching him play. I do however think we could find a better fit for this offense is all I meant to say.

I understand where Sequ is coming from. He is just starting stuff. He knows better.

I do not understand where you are coming from texbumTHElife. Would you explain your position in more detail, please? Which offenses that the Spurs run do not fit Tony?

Some of the ones you may have noticed the Spurs running out of their monster playbook, for example:
Flex offense: Why or why not?
4-out-1-in motion: Why or why not?
High Screen/Roll: Why or why not?
Side Screen/Roll: Why or why not?
Zone offenses (take your pick): Why or why not?

[SequSpur]

Starting stuff?

Pop signs another point guard named Beno who wears a purse and has never been heard of and I am supposed to run to the season ticket booth and plop down a few grand?

Uh, I don't think so.

[texbumTHElife]

Apparently, the flu.

Big words for somebody with 86 posts. You've got a lot of balls lecturing a vet like that, rookie. Ballsy. Stupid, but ballsy.

Now go get us some donuts.


I only said that because everyone was busting his chops. Then he contributed to taking his own "lets get serious" post off subject. It didnt make any sense to me.

[texbumTHElife]

I understand where Sequ is coming from. He is just starting stuff. He knows better.

I do not understand where you are coming from texbumTHElife. Would you explain your position in more detail, please? Which offenses that the Spurs run do not fit Tony?

Some of the ones you may have noticed the Spurs running out of their monster playbook, for example:
Flex offense: Why or why not?
4-out-1-in motion: Why or why not?
High Screen/Roll: Why or why not?
Side Screen/Roll: Why or why not?
Zone offenses (take your pick): Why or why not?

Simply put, Tony Parker belongs in a fast breaking offense. He really shines in the rare games where we get out and run (first Suns game). I did clarify my statements towards the end of the game last night. I admitted to the fact I was grossly overracting because of how poorly he played last night. It is just an instance of when you know how good someone is/can be you demand more from them.

I will say however that we need to run the high screen/roll more along with more motion offense.

[td4mvp21]

Hello ppl did you not hear what GInobili said???????????? He said Parker has flu like symptoms! [sarcasm]but of course that has nothing to do with the way he played[end of sarcasm]

[Solid D]

The Spurs are a very uptempo team this season but you obviously cannot run a fast break on every trip (after timeouts, made baskets and FTs). Other uptempo teams, like Phoenix for instance, don't run fast breaks all the time. They do rely on a lot of early offense, as does Seattle. (Early offense = early in the shot clock, 1st or 2nd option)

TP has proven that he can thrive in pushing the ball uptempo, or in bailing out the Spurs late in the shot clock, simply because he can create space and he finishes so well. Tony is a scorer who has learned to be a very good PG.

He'll have bad games or be under the weather, just like everyone else, but he's still a young guy and he's human...he's just gonna have some off games. Tony's been the best Spurs player for the last 7-8 games. Give Tony, and us, a break please.

[Kori Ellis]

Hello ppl did you not hear what GInobili said???????????? He said Parker has flu like symptoms!

When did he say that?

[Kori Ellis]

If Tony had the flu, then everyone needs to shutup about his performance. Over the last few weeks, Duncan, Barry, Brown, and now apparently Tony have had the flu and it has wiped each of them out for a few weeks. It's amazing that the Spurs are 33-9 with so many of their players being under the weather for such periods.

[exstatic]

The Suns were laying in wait for the P'n'R last night, so it wasn't effective. They were determined to not let Tony torch them again. Did anyone notice that on "the run" the Spurs were running little to none of their offense. They were just clearing out, and having Manu create from the top of the 3 point arc. Guess what? Tony can do that, too. He just didn't get the nod last night. Shit, he's been carrying the club for probably the last ten games.

[boutons]

"The Suns were laying in wait for the P'n'R last night, so it wasn't effective."

The Spurs didn't return the favor. It took way too many Suns points allowed before late in the game the Spurs figured out how to bother Nash. It's not as if the Spurs could have been surprised. I was disappointed the Spurs weren't handling it better for the first 3 quarters.

[Phenomanul]

How quickly people forget that Tony hit our last game winner at home.... He prevented an embarrasing loss at home to the Clips...

[TwoHandJam]

The Suns were laying in wait for the P'n'R last night, so it wasn't effective. They were determined to not let Tony torch them again. Did anyone notice that on "the run" the Spurs were running little to none of their offense. They were just clearing out, and having Manu create from the top of the 3 point arc. Guess what? Tony can do that, too. He just didn't get the nod last night. Shit, he's been carrying the club for probably the last ten games.
Agreed, but I'm not sure about that part where he didn't get "the nod". After a non-productive first half, you gotta find what works and not just rely on Pop.


The Spurs didn't return the favor. It took way too many Suns points allowed before late in the game the Spurs figured out how to bother Nash. It's not as if the Spurs could have been surprised. I was disappointed the Spurs weren't handling it better for the first 3 quarters.Yup.


How quickly people forget that Tony hit our last game winner at home.... He prevented an embarrasing loss at home to the Clips...Also true. I'll cut Tony some slack because he's been great recently (same with Bruce) but I gotta say it really disappointed me when two of our most consistent players didn't show.

[T Park]

Bowen? Had an off night.

Parker has the flu. Once again, its been going around and ravaging Barry Brown DUncan and all of them.


P.S.

Kori, Manu said this on 1200 last night on the postgame show.

[Kori Ellis]

P.S.

Kori, Manu said this on 1200 last night on the postgame show.

Thanks, TPark. Well hopefully Tony doesn't get it as badly as the other Spurs players have. Devin said he had it for almost 3 weeks, and obviously Tim was hampered by it for quite a while.

[T Park]

Barry had it for the shortest amount of time.

I think it only effected him for about 3 games.

Duncan IMO has been hampered by a combo of the Flu and fatigue from playing this summer.

[ducks]

tp did not think nash would play and was not pumped up

to bad

[ducks]

suns adjusted to tp after his first game

this game will be good for him because he knows now he has to continue to improve

[Kori Ellis]

tp did not think nash would play and was not pumped up

to bad

He knew Nash was playing and he was pumped up fine. He never doesn't get pumped up for games. Like it says in this thread, he was sick. Nothing more, nothing less.

[ducks]

oh thanks hopefully then he still has a shot at going to allstar game

[IceColdBrewski]

Apparently, the flu.

Where did you get that news?

[Kori Ellis]

Manu said it in the postgame show on the radio.

[exstatic]

Ah, like stink after a fart, here's ICB after a sub-par Parker effort. You're nothing, if not predictable.

[ALVAREZ6]

Who cares, Tony had one bad game, oh well.

Manu, Barry and Beno made up for it.

[pjjrfan]

Well, maybe that explains why he stopped trying to drive after the first few mins. of the game. It seemed to me that putting Johnson on him took him out of his game, and that seemed wierd since I know Tony is to quick and fast for just anyone to guard, and after awhile he just never attempted to drive or penetrate, so I can see him being sick. His performance was dissappointing to say the least and it came at a bad time but it is a team game and one person doesn't win it alone or lose it alone, the other guys stepped up and got the job done, which in my mind was a big lift to their confidence.

[TMTTRIO]

Well if that's the case I hope Tony gets well. Manu better stay far away from him or he'll be the next one to get it :lol

[IceColdBrewski]

Ah, like stink after a fart, here's ICB after a sub-par Parker effort. You're nothing, if not predictable.

All I did was ask a simple question about Parker being sick dumbass. No need to get your panties in a twist.

[whottt]

exs is right...you show up after bad games by Parker and you are always trying to claim some kind of scoreboard..Yet the 10 games in a row where Parker makes you eat your words you are a total no show......weak. Really weak.

[IceColdBrewski]

exs is right...you show up after bad games by Parker and you are always trying to claim some kind of scoreboard.


"some kind of scoreboard"??? LMAO. What the fuck are you talking about? Most if not all of my Parker threads deal with his inconsistent shooting and his disappearing acts in the playoffs.

[ducks]

well this is not the playofffs yet so you do not have to remind us of them

I think you got your message across to us
you can remind us again maybe right before the playoffs but not for awhile

tp did have 5 assist last night
that is not terrible

[texbumTHElife]

From now on anytime I am having a rough day at work I am chalking it up to "the Flu" ;)

I cant believe that the Spurs wouldnt provide Flu shots for the team before the season starts. I would think all franchises would be doing that by now. Personally if I was in the Spurs staff and one of the bigger names (Duncan, Parker, Gino) got the flu they would not be seeing any game time. The amount of fatigue that can cause can linger for the entire season.

[IceColdBrewski]

well this is not the playofffs yet so you do not have to remind us of them

I think you got your message across to us
you can remind us again maybe right before the playoffs but not for awhile

tp did have 5 assist last night
that is not terrible

Hey dude. All I did was ask where someone had heard that Parker had the flu and suddenly I was the one taking all the heat for this thread that I didn't even start.

P.S. Don't worry. I have every intention of reminding the folks in this forum of Parker's disappearing acts when the playoffs come around. Doesn't matter though. Guys like (ma boy) Manu, Beno, and Barry will bail him out but Parker will still get all the credit around here. :rolleyes

[SMLT]

Oh my.

One bad (ok horrible) game in, what, 6 weeks and TP is to be traded... Come on, some of you (certainly no Spurs fan) deserve this trade, just to see what you'll then miss so badly.

Flu or not, TP deserve (and earned) more respect than some of you (very vocals) show him... Really strange attitude toward this young french guy.

For the poster who mentionned his contract, TP is still in his rookie contract... And give us a break with Beno, he'll need to prove much more before he can claim the starting job... What was Pop's reaction about trading Parker and having Beno running the point: laugh. And guess what ?Pop knows more than you and I, way more...

And just to sum up I loved this previous reaction: "His back is sore from carrying this team for the last few weeks."

Cheers and expecting a good win against the kings

[ducks]

tp looked before last night game he was a very cheap bargain

if they work out a salary cap higher after the new cba
you guys will be love his little contract more

[ducks]

tp has improved the most this year then the other 2 years

[IceColdBrewski]

Here's your thread Kori.

Now then. Stop makin shit up about me. Even though I'm used to by now. :rolleyes

[Kori Ellis]

:lol

You've ripped Parker in so many threads senselessly that it's hard to keep them all straight.

My bad.

Seriously, Arenas is a very good player. But to say he's been outplaying Parker when the Spurs and Wizards meet up is just wrong.

[T Park]

You've ripped Parker in so many threads senselessly that it's hard to keep them all straight.



Where are those threads at Ice??

Funny how you find the one where you dont rip him too much, but cant bring the ones out where you do.

[IceColdBrewski]

Where are those threads at Ice??

Funny how you find the one where you dont rip him too much, but cant bring the ones out where you do.

I've taken it easy on Parker this year. Much like Kori, you're memory isn't very good.

[T Park]

I've taken it easy on Parker this year

yeah your practically in the Parker fan club.

Are you kidding me...

[GoSpurs21]

once again icecold and sequ are proving how much they knows about basketball. Lets see after 4 quarters Parker is 8-19 with 22 pts against an allstar. Come back to me when you actually learn something.

Oh yea, way to go eagle chokers.....all my friends up here in New England thank your eagles for once again choking in the big game. At least Buffalo made it to the Super Bowl 4 years in a row. Choking in the NFC championship 3 years in a row then choking against a Patriots team in the SB when they are playing sub-par is pathetic. Tell donavan that chucky soup is for eating not regurgitating