What if Hornets win game 2?

[Tacker]

If Hornets win game 2 will it be over for the Spurs? I can see the hornets steal a homecourt win in San Antonio.

[SAGambler]

It will probably be the downfall of the free world as we know it.

[cjjr72984]

If Hornets win Game 2, it'll be pretty hard for your Spurs to win this series but it won't be impossible.

I have alot of respect for the Spurs and Popovich, but I personally think the Hornets will win this series.

[hater]

if they do this will be a 6 or 7 game series going either way

[wildchild]

Hornets not win the game 2. :nope No way, no how.

[Supreme_Being]

I'm gonna get really pissed.

[Jimcs50]

Our San Antonio Spurs have NEVER won a series where they lost the first 2 games.

Nuff said.

[Jimcs50]

That being said, I seriously think SA will play a great game tonight and leave nothing on the floor. Hopefully, they will be rewarded with a win, and a split in New Orleans.

[DAF86]

Our San Antonio Spurs have NEVER lost the first 2 games of a series.

Nuff said.

There, I fixed it for you.

[41times]

The Spurs are in the same position the Mavs were in. Spurs had a winnable game 1 (in the first half) that turned into a Hornets blowout in the 2nd half.

Hornets will have all the confidence in the world in game 2 and the Spurs will lose game 2.

The Spurs will come home and the crowd will propel them to a win in game 3.

Then comes the pivotal game of the entire series, Game 4. If the Spurs can win it then we have probably got a 7 game series. If the Spurs can't, the series is over in 5.

Chris Paul is a nightmare matchup and if you leave your man to help double him then Chandler or West will kill you. And there will be at least 1 or 2 games when that s.o.b. Pargo will come in for Paul and shoot lights out.

I think everyone (including myself) sort of "under-rated' the Hornets a little this year because they were so young and inexperienced. We were all wrong.

The fact of the matter is that Paul just does not make a lot of stupid plays and does not turn the ball over much. I think he is averaging less than 2 turnovers in his 6 playoff games. That is amazing for anyone.

[samikeyp]

Our San Antonio Spurs have NEVER lost the first 2 games of a series.

Nuff said.

There, I fixed it for you.

Actually, they have lost the first two games of a series:

2001 WCF
1998 WCSF
1995 WCF
1993 WCSF
1992 1st round
1990 WCSF
1988 1st round
1986 1st round
1982 WCF
1977 1st round
1975 ABA Semifinals

[BlackSwordsMan]

Our San Antonio Spurs have NEVER won a series where they lost the first 2 games.

Nuff said.

fixed

[SenorSpur]

Then the chances of the Spurs winning the series would not be favorable.

[Jimcs50]

There, I fixed it for you.

thanks for making Mikey have to do all that research for nothing. :)

[Jimcs50]

Actually, they have lost the first two games of a series:

2001 WCF
1998 WCSF
1995 WCF
1993 WCSF
1992 1st round
1990 WCSF
1988 1st round
1986 1st round
1982 WCF
1977 1st round
1975 ABA Semifinals

Mikey, look at my thread....I said the Spurs have never won a series where they have lost the first 2 games......I know they have lost first 2 games many times.

[Manufan909]

Tim Duncan really needs to step it up this time. For first game for this series was the inverse of his first game against the Suns. I bet Pop has it all figured out; maybe he'll play Ime more tonight. Maybe Ime could take Paul, and Bowen could stick to Peja? It probably won't happen, since they're almost never on the floor together, when I watch the games anyways.

[samikeyp]

Mikey, look at my thread....I said the Spurs have never won a series where they have lost the first 2 games......I know they have lost first 2 games many times.

That wasn't directed to you.

[Ginofan]

What if Hornets win game 2?
Then God hates us.

[Pistons < Spurs]

The Hornets should win Game 2. You're at home and have tons of confidence and younger legs.

Once the series comes to SA, it will be much more difficult for the Hornets. And if the Spurs win both at home as they should, it completely changes the momentum of the series. Pressure would swing all the way to the Hornets And in a battle of attrition, I'd take the Spurs every time.





The real question should be, What if the Spurs win Game 2?

[boutons_]

TV said 83% of the teams that win game1 win the series.

What's the %age for teams that win game1 & 2?

When Spurs win tonight, Game1 will be forgotten. Hornets go to SA having LOST HCA.

[Darcus]

Honestly I'm not saying this because I'm a Hornets fan, but I think there's a very good chance we will win Game 2 tonight. But if that happens, I don't think that this series is over at all, mind you. The problem for us is when we go to San Antonio.

[slowchild25]

If the Hornets win game 2 they are just doing what they are supposed to do, defending there home court. I think it will be a tough game and I fully expect Duncan to go off I just hope the Hornets come out ready to play and put the Spurs in position of having to win 4 out of 5 games to move on.

[King Ju I]

If the Hornets win tonite, which is very possible, the series is not over by any means but the odds would be against the Spurs. The Hornets are capable of taking at least one of those two road games. That would set up game 5 as the closer(Captain obvious eh?) But this game could go so many ways tonite. Im not gonna talk shit im just going to wait and see.

[Man of Steel]

We lose tonight and we're fucked.

[Tacker]

The San Antonio Spurs during the Tim Duncan era never won a series in which they DID NOT have homecourt advantage except for 2005 WCF in which they won the first 2 games.

[Cry Havoc]

If the Spurs win tonight, it's a huge momentum swing. 1-1 with 2 games in San Antonio are not good prospects for the Hornets.

And I look for Duncan to have a simply monster game tonight.

[YoMamaIsCallin]

TV said 83% of the teams that win game1 win the series.

What's the %age for teams that win game1 & 2?

When Spurs win tonight, Game1 will be forgotten. Hornets go to SA having LOST HCA.

see http://whowins.com for all kinds of good stats on 7-game series.

All-time in the NBA, teams that win games 1 and 2 at home win the series 94.4% of the time. That's basically 19 out of 20 times. However they lose game 3 61.7% of the time.

If the Spurs lose game 2, they would have to win 4 out of 5. That's a very, very tough assignment.

Basically what the Spurs need to do to reassert control is to win Game 2 and then win Game 3 at home on Thursday.

[dbreiden83080]

If we lose tonight game 3 will be a lock for the Spurs to win. Hornets will probably come in ready but Spurs knowing their season is on the line will win the game for sure and then game 4 will be a tough close one, Spurs will have to pull out. Tonight is pretty big though.

[Extra Stout]

The San Antonio Spurs during the Tim Duncan era never won a series in which they DID NOT have homecourt advantage except for 2005 WCF in which they won the first 2 games.
1998 1st round
2007 WCSF

All three against Phoenix.

A better way to state it would be, "The San Antonio Spurs during the Tim Duncan era have never won a series without home court advantage.*"

*--Phoenix counts as second home court

[Doctor J]

The San Antonio Spurs during the Tim Duncan era never won a series in which they DID NOT have homecourt advantage except for 2005 WCF in which they won the first 2 games.

What about last year's series against Phoenix Suns?

Suns had homecourt advantage, but who was in the West Final?

Maybe you thought Phoenix was also Spurs' homecourt?

[wijayas]

If Hornets win game 2 will it be over for the Spurs? I can see the hornets steal a homecourt win in San Antonio.

It will break my heart. But I am sure Spurs will fight back.

[Bartleby]

What about last year's series against Phoenix Suns?

Suns had homecourt advantage, but who was in the West Final?

Maybe you thought Phoenix was also Spurs' homecourt?

Tacker is too busy starting new threads to bother with facts.

[wijayas]

If we lose tonight game 3 will be a lock for the Spurs to win. Hornets will probably come in ready but Spurs knowing their season is on the line will win the game for sure and then game 4 will be a tough close one, Spurs will have to pull out. Tonight is pretty big though.

Lest we forget. We were down 3-1 against Dallas in 2006 WCSF. We fought back and forced Game 7. Ah, if it were not for Manu most famous foul against Dirk... :depressed :depressed :depressed

[wijayas]

If the Spurs win tonight, it's a huge momentum swing. 1-1 with 2 games in San Antonio are not good prospects for the Hornets.

And I look for Duncan to have a simply monster game tonight.

We must win Game 2. Holding the serve at home against the Hornets is not a certainty.

[Jimcs50]

We must win Game 2. Holding the serve at home against the Hornets is not a certainty.

I think SA will lose one game at home for sure, so that means they must win game 2 and probably game 5, making game 6 for the series.

[pawe]

Down 0-2 would be the best thing that will happen here in Spurstalk. Bandwagoners will show their ugly mugs and Believers will unite!

[Jimcs50]

Down 0-2 would be the best thing that will happen here in Spurstalk. Bandwagoners will show their ugly mugs and Believers will unite!


There will be no true believers...just people whistling past the graveyard....there is no chsnce in hell that SA can win 4 of 5 from New Orleans....that team is too young, too talented and too well coached to blow a 2-0 lead.

[1Parker1]

Boutons being so positive has me slightly worried....

[Pistons < Spurs]

Down 0-2 would be the best thing that will happen here in Spurstalk. Bandwagoners will show their ugly mugs and Believers will unite!

I dread thinking about the posts I'd see tonight if the Spurs lose.

[Jimcs50]

I dread thinking about the posts I'd see tonight if the Spurs lose.

I will not be in Spurs forum for at least 2 wks, I will stay in Club and Baseball forum until then.

:lol

[pawe]

I dread thinking about the posts I'd see tonight if the Spurs lose.

Nothing will ever top '06.

[florige]

Honestly I'm not saying this because I'm a Hornets fan, but I think there's a very good chance we will win Game 2 tonight. But if that happens, I don't think that this series is over at all, mind you. The problem for us is when we go to San Antonio.



I think game 2 is a must for us. You guys gave us our worst beating ever at home this year. And you won at Dallas. And if we do happen to lose tonight so be it. But if we get blown out the building again...

[TampaDude]

The San Antonio Spurs during the Tim Duncan era never won a series in which they DID NOT have homecourt advantage except for 2005 WCF in which they won the first 2 games.

Uh...you must have a short memory...the Suns had HCA in the 2007 WCSF and the Spurs won that series on their way to their 4th NBA Championship.

[TampaDude]

Lest we forget. We were down 3-1 against Dallas in 2006 WCSF. We fought back and forced Game 7. Ah, if it were not for Manu most famous foul against Dirk... :depressed :depressed :depressed

While we're on that subject...even if Manu didn't foul Dirk on that shot, the Mavs would have been down only 1 with more than 20 seconds left in the game. If the Spurs missed a FT, the Mavs could still have tied or won that game in regulation.

The .4 bullshit, on the other hand... :bang

[Admidave50]

I'm afraid that with only 1 day of rest, we won't be able to make enough adjustments

[TampaDude]

If Hornets win game 2 will it be over for the Spurs? I can see the hornets steal a homecourt win in San Antonio.

Yes...if the Hornets win Game 2, they will win the series...book it.

[dbreiden83080]

We lose tonight and we're fucked.

If they lose tonight Spurs are in a hole but they are far from fucked. They are the defending champs and a great home team, heading home for 2 games. They can even the series up.

[Bartleby]

Yes...if the Hornets win Game 2, they will win the series...book it.

If the Hornets win games 2, 3, and 4 they win the series. Game 2 is huge, no doubt, but I'm not going to go so far as to call it a must-win game.

[Jdspur20]

The Spurs are in the same position the Mavs were in. Spurs had a winnable game 1 (in the first half) that turned into a Hornets blowout in the 2nd half.

Hornets will have all the confidence in the world in game 2 and the Spurs will lose game 2.

The Spurs will come home and the crowd will propel them to a win in game 3.

Then comes the pivotal game of the entire series, Game 4. If the Spurs can win it then we have probably got a 7 game series. If the Spurs can't, the series is over in 5.

Chris Paul is a nightmare matchup and if you leave your man to help double him then Chandler or West will kill you. And there will be at least 1 or 2 games when that s.o.b. Pargo will come in for Paul and shoot lights out.

I think everyone (including myself) sort of "under-rated' the Hornets a little this year because they were so young and inexperienced. We were all wrong.

The fact of the matter is that Paul just does not make a lot of stupid plays and does not turn the ball over much. I think he is averaging less than 2 turnovers in his 6 playoff games. That is amazing for anyone.

were not the mavs.

[florige]

Yes...if the Hornets win Game 2, they will win the series...book it.



Dude what is wrong with you? Book it :toast, is only supposed to be used for the likes of good not evil.

[TampaDude]

Dude what is wrong with you? Book it :toast, is only supposed to be used for the likes of good not evil.

But it's true...if the Hornets take a 2-0 series lead, they will win the series...that's why the Spurs will win Game 2...BOOK IT!!! :toast

[Man in the Arena]

if they do this will be a 6 or 7 game series going either way

Get ready for a 6 or 7 game series, then. Adjustments will be made, but there's enough leaning in the Hornets' favor for a Game 2 victory.

Obviously, Tim Duncan will be back to his stellar self tonight and Tony Parker will make his way to the hoop ahead of everyone on the fast break or through everyone in the halfcourt, but does anyone really believe that Bruce Bowen (read that again... Bruce Effing Bowen) will have another game with FIVE 3-pointers? He alone had more than the entire Hornets roster (4) in Game 1. That won't happen again. Those two changes (Duncan improving his game and Bowen coming back down to his average) should pretty much cancel each other out.

Even with more focus on D-West, he'll still have a solid game. After all, he did average 23 ppg in four regular season meetings. I wouldn't be too surprised to see him limited to 20 points... but that would free up CP to get into his rhythm... something he didn't really do until the 4th quarter when the first game's outcome was all but decided. Extra attention on D-West will also make Tyson available for the signature "Crescent City Connection" alley-oops. If either Peja or MoPete is on tonight, the threat of their outside shooting is enough to seal the win. Add to all this the home crowd, and it's a tough, uphill climb for the Spurs. Of course, that'll only mean the Hornets have done their job of protecting homecourt. Gotta get one in San Antonio to make things interesting.

Biggest Changes:
Duncan (improved all around)
Bowen (offensively deflated)
Paul (improved aggressiveness)
Pargo (improved shooting)

[Budkin]

Then the Hornets will be up 2-0.

[Nolazach]

If we go up 2-0 it dosen't mean much. If we go up 3-0 the series is over.

[Tradition]

If Hornets go up 2-0, this series is over. Spurs need to nut up and play their game. They are pussies if they lose tonight. The final chapter of the spurs championship success concludes this season. They need to go out with a bang.

[Ragin Cajun]

The series is over now.

[dbestpro]

The series is over now.

This is the first time I've heard of a team giving up and being up 1-0.

:lobt2:

[jmard5]

Spurs 1 - 1 Hornets later. =)

[mexicanjunior]

The San Antonio Spurs during the Tim Duncan era never won a series in which they DID NOT have homecourt advantage except for 2005 WCF in which they won the first 2 games.

Didn't the Spurs beat the Suns last year without HC?

[Ragin Cajun]

Game 1 was the critical game. The Hornets displayed their dominance.

[samikeyp]

Didn't the Spurs beat the Suns last year without HC?

Yes.

[FromWayDowntown]

I agree with Budkin, if the Hornets win Game 2, they'll be up 2-0.

I will say that I love the zero sum game that some of the Hornets are presenting in analyzing the series, Duncan improves and Bowen reverts to form means that Game 2 is a Game 1 repeat for the Spurs. Finding a way to slow down West means that Paul goes off and means that Game 2 is a Game 1 repeat for the Hornets.

Honestly, are Hornets fans surprised that the Spurs made the playoffs? To read your comments, you'd think that the Spurs were fortunate to qualify and don't have a clue about how to adjust from game-to-game, since everyone knows that any one adjustment just serves to weaken a team in another place. Will Bowen hit 5-of-10 threes in Game 2? Probably not. Have the Spurs ever won a playoff game against a good team without Bowen hitting 5-of-10 threes? Absolutely.

I would submit that the value of between game adjustments and the fact that they aren't just zero sum games is borne out by comparing Games 4 and 5 of the 2005 NBA Finals. Or maybe some of the other instances in which the Spurs got blown out on the road only to bounce back and take the next road game in the series:

*2007 West Finals, Games 3 & 4
*2007 West Semis, Games 2 & 5 (and even Game 4)
*2006 West First Round, Games 4 & 6
*2005 NBA Finals, Games 3/4 & 5
*2005 West Semis, Games 4 & 6
*2003 West Semis, Games 4 & 6

Does this mean the Spurs win Game 2? Hell no, it doesn't. Does it mean that Game 1 doesn't mean a damned thing when Game 2 tips off tonight? Absolutely.

[1usamotorsports.com]

Game 1 was the critical game. The Hornets displayed their dominance.



Game 1 is not that critical . TD did get shut down and cp3 got slowed down .
But its too early to tell what will happen . Spurs have been in these situations numerous times and they will take care of business . Hornets cant expect to always double team on TD . Expect a new game .

[z0sa]

i would say no player is capable of shutting down tim duncan to point of only 5pts and 3rebs ...

but tim duncan apparently is.

[BiZNicK]

Nope

Though if it does happen i expect to see a lot of you unfaithful Spurs fans hop off the bandwagon.

[Ragin Cajun]

Looks like I was right.

[41times]

were not the mavs.

Soon you will see the light my son.

[mFFL03]

hmpf....so....you all are fucked

[Doctor J]

If that happenes, the Hornets will lead the series 2-0.

[FUML]

I will say that I love the zero sum game that some of the Hornets are presenting in analyzing the series, Duncan improves and Bowen reverts to form means that Game 2 is a Game 1 repeat for the Spurs. Finding a way to slow down West means that Paul goes off and means that Game 2 is a Game 1 repeat for the Hornets.

LMMFAO at this being exactly what happened.