START MANU the rest of the series.

[Ice009]

What the FUCK is Pop doing?

WE've gotta start Manu the rest of the series. FUCK the bench. The big three ALL NEED to be starting so NO can't key in on Tony and Tim. Having Manu out there with Tim and Tony stops NO from keying in on those two. I would have made that move at half time of game 1.

And Pop, what the hell are you doing with Peja??????? You should have had Bruce on Peja in game 1 and for FUCKS SAKE you should most definitely have had Bruce guarding Peja ALL of game 2. You're slitting your own teams throats.

Peja was part of the big 3rd quarter run in game 1 and tonight Peja is also a huge part of NO 3rd quarter run again tonight. FUCK IT POP. WAKE UP MAN.

[Spurminator]

Start Barry.

[anjlbitz]

Manu Ginobili turnover machine?

[SpursFan0728]

Don't blame all the shit to Pop.

Manu had a lot of stupid turnovers this game..

just re-gather ourselves and get ready to kill the hornets in the next 4 game

[jmard5]

Wow. Manu with all those turnovers... Is his ankle still bothering him?

[Ice009]

Plus asking MANU to carry the entire load off of the bench while hurt and the whole NO defense keying in on him is a joke. Make a move Pop.

I knew there was big trouble when Pop said no changes need to be made after game 1.

[leemajors]

Wow. Manu with all those turnovers... Is his ankle still bothering him?

and the retarded fouls.

[lefty]

Must be the moist. floor :bang

[Kori Ellis]

Wow. Manu with all those turnovers... Is his ankle still bothering him?


Ankles don't cause those kind of passes. He was just trying too much and making bad decisions.

[peskypesky]

start manu. it's now or never, pop.

[Udrihlooms]

Manu just keeps on jacking up from every unimaginable position in game 1.

Manu just keeps on turning over the ball from every unimaginable possession in Game 2

Ok, put the big 3 all 48 minutes right?

Without a bench, (Manu is bench), we'll be lucky to be down 30 at the end of the game.

[Ice009]

Manu Ginobili turnover machine?

WHo else on this team is doing anything. Manu is trying to create for all the stiffs on this team. MANU is trying to make things happen.

I admit that Manu is pressing a little too much and some of those turnsovers are on him, but FFS who else on this team can create a darn thing???????

Also, I want to see Manu take NO MORE threes. Only take a 3 if you're wide open otherwise ALL twos.

[lefty]

Manu should :

- Start

- And look more for his penetrations and scoring than too much passing

[SpurOutofTownFan]

I agree they need to try more penetrations both manu and parker and then if you get the charge or are blocked,, so be it but Chandler is having a field day out there. Parker needs to do his thing. I know he will on game 3 but the spurs will need to win game 4 and 5 on the road to win this.

[sprrs]

I was more pissed that Pop stuck with Finley even though he was ice cold. Then watching Barry nail a three in garbage time just made it worse.

[DAF86]

We need to play our best players as much as possible and Manu plays a lot more minutes when he starts, so I say yes.

And play Barry and Bonner too, we need to make them pay for the double team.

[jack sommerset]

manu would foul out. thats why he comes off the bench.

[Ice009]

Yep. Less time for Michael and more time for Barry. Also, if Horry or the rest of the bigs are providing nothing give Bonner a shot.

[mexicanjunior]

I admit that Manu is pressing a little too much and some of those turnsovers are on him, but FFS who else on this team can create a darn thing???????


A little? He is playing ridiculous right now. How many times is he gonna force bullet passes inside to see them fumbled out of bounds or go behind his back against a double team to just lose it on the sideline? Barry needs to start getting alot of his minutes... ASAP.

[Ice009]

manu would foul out. thats why he comes off the bench.

How many times has Manu started? And how many times has Manu fouled out?

[ManuTim_best of Fwiendz]

Finley needs to be replaced by Barry??

[Athenea]

Without a bench, (Manu is bench), we'll be lucky to be down 30 at the end of the game.
Wrong. Manu is not the bench.
Tonite the bench proved to be more cohesive than the starting 5+manu.
The on going distrust on our bench has been blown out of proportion all year long. We did better against their starting line-up with our supposed "scrubs".
Start Manu or Barry (I would go with Barry coz he is hotter from 3pt land). And make Tony and Bowen focus primarily on D to compensate Barry's D liability.

[King Ju I]

Going back home maybe you guys should start Manu. I think Barry should get more playing time. The reason doubling Duncan has been so effective is that the 3's for you guys eventually go dry. Barry was swishing tonite. Back to Manu. I think he will be a lot more comfortable in game 3. TP too. He had a pretty bad game 5 in the first half. 6 in the second. I look for the Spurs to come out slugging in game 3.

[dg7md]

Duncan needs to take more three pointers.

[1Parker1]

Starting Manu puts problems with using him as the backup PG when Parker is getting his rest.

[bdictjames]

I think Manu is disrupting the offense. Cant hit the three, cant take it to the rim, turnovers.

As of now Brent > Manu

[SPARKY]

Start Manu, but consider the quick pull for Barry.

[DAF86]

Starting Manu puts problems with using him as the backup PG when Parker is getting his rest.

Remember 05 finals?

[brettn]

starting manu would be a fucking disaster. do that and you have absolutely no energy coming off the bench.

if anything pop will start barry ahead of finley. even if he doesnt, barry NEEDS to get more minutes. it might be silly to say, but if we win this series itll be because of our 3 point shooting. which obviously means we need to get our 3 point shooters in there. which means barry. that guys got it going, even throughout the first round against phx.

I might be silly here, but what do people think about a Tim, Kurt, Tony, Bruce and Barry lineup next game. Give tony a chance to create some penetration through the picknroll and get either bowen or barry open looks from beyond the arc. As worthless as manu's been these first 2 games, I wouldn't be suprised to see Pop put it on tony and tim's shoulders the rest of this series. Not only that, but that lineup allows Kurt on West (which ive felt like he's done a great job, even in the first game when he wasnt in foul trouble) and bowen on paul which has obviously been the most affective countermeasure to Paul. Thoughts?

[Tigole Bitties]

It's the third quarter that's been the bane of the first two games.

I don't know wtf Pop is doing to the rotation, but the chemistry and flow is all fuct up.

[timvp]

Ginobili was the Hornets' best player in the first half. Starter, off the bench -- whatever, he needs to stop the hot dog antics and get back to playing championship basketball.

[DAF86]

he needs to stop the hot dog antics

What does this mean?

[tmtcsc]

Start Barry.

:tu We have better ball movement with Brent in the game.

[carina_gino20]

Manu was disastrous today. I don't know what's up with him but he better prove the next game how much of a competitor he is. Stop this disappearing bullshit.

[TMTTRIO]

I would give a lot of Manu's minutes to Brent at this time. Manu doesn't even look like Manu anymore. He looks like he's at 50% and still injured. This isn't an excuse for his poor game but he can't shoot 3's, He can't drive through the lane at all very well, and he just looks really slow at everything on the court. His decision making has been horrendous since he's been injured and has been doing more harm then good so I would give them to Brent. Like he said maybe he should sit out if he's not helping the team.

[Ice009]

Manu is injured right? Why does he have to BE the BENCH all the time. Freaking start him so NO's defense can't key in on the big 2. You guys saw that the bench if fine with out Manu to start the 4th quarter.

I agree with TimVP though that Manu needs to stop trying those silly bullet passes and forcing the ball inside. Thinking back to last seasons playoffs I thought Manu was awesome, not because of his offense, but because of his passing. Last season in the playoffs Manu had a lot more basic, safe passes and didn't turn the ball over anywhere near the clip that he is turning it over so far in this series and playoffs.

[DAF86]

I would give all of Manu's minutes to Brent at this time. Manu doesn't even look like Manu anymore. He looks like he's at 50% and still injured. This isn't an excuse for his poor game but he can't shoot 3's, He can't drive through the lane at all very well, and he just looks really slow at everything on the court. His decision making has been horrendous since he's been injured and has been doing more harm then good so I would give them to Brent. Like he said maybe he should sit out if he's not helping the team.

That's stupid, without Manu we've no chance (same as Tim and Tony) I think Finley should see his minutes decrease.

[carina_gino20]

Manu doesn't look injured to me. He looks sloppy. I don't mind a couple of missed shots, but he's got to start taking care of that ball. He's a competitor. He's shown that before. He just needs some time to stew at his performance, remember what he's been doing in the regular season, and he'll be fine.

[timvp]

Manu doesn't look injured to me. He looks sloppy. Agreed. Injured doesn't force you to do wild behind the back passes and dribble into double-teams. Injured doesn't make you think you can throw the ball through 45 players to Horry/Oberto/Duncan in the middle of the lane.

The excuses need to stop ... for everybody.

[T Park]

This is honestly the first time I've seen Ginobili play so horribly.

Dude needs to go game 5 Sonics 05 on these fuckers.

[BlackFlagg]

I would give all of Manu's minutes to Brent at this time.

ALL Manu's minutes? What fresh crap is this?

[DAF86]

he needs to stop the hot dog antics



What does this mean?

I really want to know what this expression means. So if anyone knows what it means please answer me, thanks.

[HarlemHeat37]

a lot of people are in denial when it comes to Manu..

if you're a Spurs fan, you HAVE to accept that Manu is going to have A LOT of games where he's extremely erratic..that's just how he plays the game..we are fortunate to have him, because he's unstoppable when he's hot..but when he's missing? well we've seen it so far in these playoffs..we saw it a lot in last year's playoffs..terrible shot selection, terrible idea of when to pass, terrible defense..

Manu needs to accept that he's not going to dominate every night..he needs to realize when he's cold, and play within the offense..

[Obstructed_View]

I really want to know what this expression means. So if anyone knows what it means please answer me, thanks.

He's being flashy. He's trying to make the spectacular play too often. He's making poor decisions. He's dribbling into the lane and passing the ball behind his back to Tony Parker who has to jump three feet in the air to keep it from going out of bounds.

[timvp]

I really want to know what this expression means. So if anyone knows what it means please answer me, thanks.Translation: Manu needs to stop trying to make the fancy play and just make the right play.

[T Park]

Ginobili is trying to act like Magic Johnson, when he really should just be acting like Ginobili.

[DAF86]

Translation: Manu needs to stop trying to make the fancy play and just make the right play.


He's being flashy. He's trying to make the spectacular play too often. He's making poor decisions. He's dribbling into the lane and passing the ball behind his back to Tony Parker who has to jump three feet in the air to keep it from going out of bounds.

Thanks :tu

[Ice009]

a lot of people are in denial when it comes to Manu..

if you're a Spurs fan, you HAVE to accept that Manu is going to have A LOT of games where he's extremely erratic..that's just how he plays the game..we are fortunate to have him, because he's unstoppable when he's hot..but when he's missing? well we've seen it so far in these playoffs..we saw it a lot in last year's playoffs..terrible shot selection, terrible idea of when to pass, terrible defense..

Manu needs to accept that he's not going to dominate every night..he needs to realize when he's cold, and play within the offense..

Saw what in last years playoffs???? Manu's passes were a lot more sound last season. I thought Manu last season was brilliant in taking what the other team gave him and he played within the offense for most of the playoffs. He didn't try to do too much in last seasons playoffs. He made better decisions and his passes were better too.

[ManuTim_best of Fwiendz]

Ginobili is trying to act like Magic Johnson, when he really should just be acting like Ginobili.
Agree. Manu needs to be Manu . The last two games, he hasn't been Manu.

it's almost as if it's been one of those crazy mix ups that happens in movies, where some guy or bum who looks like Manu or an inferior Manu clone wandered onto the team airplane by mistake...

[MannyIsGod]

He has been Manu. This is Manu on occasion and you need to deal with it. Manu is brilliant, and Manu is wonderful, but on occasion Manu is really fucking stupid. Hopefully really fucking stupid Manu takes a seat for the rest of the play offs or at least for the rest of this series.

[smeagol]

He has been Manu. This is Manu on occasion and you need to deal with it. Manu is brilliant, and Manu is wonderful, but on occasion Manu is really fucking stupid. Hopefully really fucking stupid Manu takes a seat for the rest of the play offs or at least for the rest of this series.

:tu

[ManuTim_best of Fwiendz]

He has been Manu. This is Manu on occasion and you need to deal with it. Manu is brilliant, and Manu is wonderful, but on occasion Manu is really fucking stupid. Hopefully really fucking stupid Manu takes a seat for the rest of the play offs or at least for the rest of this series.
True, but he's been even more uncharacteristic by Manu standards
He's become the out of control Manu on occasion, but usually he has a high ratio of amazing plays to make up for every crazy TO causing play. He usually has an answer for his fuck ups. that's usually how his game has worked for the last four years..

This Manu has just made consecutive bad plays one after the other.

The team better hope Manu has an answer for his horrific play in game 3.... :bang

[nkdlunch]

turnobili? no thanks. start Vaughn and Barry.

[nkdlunch]

True, but he's been even more uncharacteristic by Manu standards

not even that, his whole attitude is anti manu.

even when he sat on the bench, the ballboy gave him his warmup and manu looked at him and threw that shit back in his face saying something like "puta madre, cabron!!!"

somethin really wrong with that vato

[DarrinS]

Yeah, I loved seeing him turn the ball over about 5 times in a row.

We need more of that.


http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y43/-marhari-/MoreCowbell.jpg

[ducks]

Wow. Manu with all those turnovers... Is his ankle still bothering him?
his ankle has something to do with his careless play?

[ManuTim_best of Fwiendz]

not even that, his whole attitude is anti manu.

even when he sat on the bench, the ballboy gave him his warmup and manu looked at him and threw that shit back in his face saying something like "puta madre, cabron!!!"

somethin really wrong with that vato

Some bodysnatcher shit is going on...bizarro Manu...

we need Supermanu back pronto



Yeah, I loved seeing him turn the ball over about 5 times in a row.

We need more of that.

yeah and weren't they almost all in the first quarter?...if Manu's ratio of good plays to bad plays holds up, it means he's going to have like 18 20 consecutive good plays in game 3? :lol

[ducks]

pop thought manu pressed against suns
he is very pressing against hornets
please stop!

[ManuTim_best of Fwiendz]

his ankle has something to do with his careless play?
I agree. Manu's injuries would only affect things like his drive, and lift, not turnovers. He's probably thinking too much about what he's able to do and not do, but that only means he's not playing through his injuries as well as he should.

I don't care about hte excuses for any of the teammates. They're all sucking mentally so far.

[George Gervin's Afro]

I don't think I have ever seen manu play as bad as he has these past couple of games..

[oski1000]

Start Popovich!!!!!!!:flag::flag:

[Los Spurs]

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:lol

[Los Spurs]

I don't think I have ever seen manu play as bad as he has these past couple of games..

He's either tired or his wife is PG

[hive_attack]

Spurs will lose either way.

[spurschick]

http://dupasandwich.blogspot.com/2008/05/proteccin.html

[jack sommerset]

How many times has Manu started? And how many times has Manu fouled out?

The question you should ask is how many times over Mangoo's career has Pop had to protect Mangoo from foul problems. Its very obvious to the world outside of SA why Mangoo comes off the bench.

Mangoo can't control himself so Pop gets a head start controling him by sitting him the first 4 minutes. Give or take.

If Pop Started Mangoo. Mangoo would get 2 fouls before end of 1st quater. Pop would take him out. Mangoo would come back in durning 2nd and get his 3rd foul.Pop would have to sit the beast again. Mangoo starts 3rd and would pick up his 4th and Pop would sit him. So on and so forth.

You can't count on Mangoo staying out of foul trouble so Pop gets ahead of the game. 99 % of NBA players don't foul out but for the ones that get into trouble the coaches manage them like Pop does Mangoo.

It is what it is.

[CarefreeAZ]

What the FUCK is Pop doing?

WE've gotta start Manu the rest of the series. FUCK the bench. The big three ALL NEED to be starting so NO can't key in on Tony and Tim. Having Manu out there with Tim and Tony stops NO from keying in on those two. I would have made that move at half time of game 1.

And Pop, what the hell are you doing with Peja??????? You should have had Bruce on Peja in game 1 and for FUCKS SAKE you should most definitely have had Bruce guarding Peja ALL of game 2. You're slitting your own teams throats.

Peja was part of the big 3rd quarter run in game 1 and tonight Peja is also a huge part of NO 3rd quarter run again tonight. FUCK IT POP. WAKE UP MAN.

Just a joke but Mike D'Antoni is available? Until the Hornets win one at San Antonio the series is very much alive.

[ballhog]

They just need to come out of halftime with a little more if they want to win the series. The 3rd quarter has been the difference. What's the problem? I think they need Gino to start in the 3rd next to Parker and Bowen. They need to start Oberto again---he hustles more than anyone (not much of a threat to score).

[manu2020]

Manu need to slow his fucking roll and get his shitt together for real. Last night was the first I really saw him fucking angry. Shit NO didn't do anything spectacular because SA was giving them what they wanted. They need pull their act together. How in the hell is Duncan letting them punks push him around, I'm teethering on insanity here.

[urunobili]

Start Barry.

+1

[Dex]

I agree that Barry needs both more playing time and shots, but starting him doesn't solve our defensive problems. In fact, it might make them worse. Barry hasn't been able to keep up that step on defense ever since he blew the calf, and he has the same defensive instincts as Finley. But hell, at least Barry has been able to get his shot to fall.

I liked what I saw from Ime on Wells, and it would seem like he's a good enough perimeter defender to keep up with the likes of Peja and Peterson. But he needs to stop making boneheaded plays and knock down some shots if he wants to stay on the floor.

And Pop needs to pull his head out of his ass and give up on Bowen vs. Paul. This dude is too quick and too good for Bowen, and this is creating a buffet of driving opportunities for the Hornets and matchup problems for the Spurs.

[Man of Steel]

Stop with three pointers and drive to basket.

Tim waits too long for double teams.

Play Bonner.

Tell Tony to stop going to stupid movies with Eva during the playoffs. Leave wife at home waiting for him to come home while she is dressed in garter belts, black hose and edible panties--all contingent on the Spurs winning the series. If not--no nooky for six months...