Basketball Lessons and Being Scared of Women

[ClingingMars]

stop making stupid threads

keep it to one thread if any

- Mars

[michaelwcho]

So you insult the moderator, practice your article-writing, and post things we could look up on wikipedia if we were so inclined. I guess it's a Steven A Smith "trying to get attention" thing.

[Reggie Miller]

I am not pretending anything. I do know more about basketball than everyone here

Children born in the great Hoosier state come pre-programmed with more basketball knowledge than you possess. (In my day, you also left the hospital with your choice: either Led Zeppelin IV or Frampton Comes Alive! on 8-track, but that was the '70s.)

[ClingingMars]

So you insult the moderator, practice your article-writing, and post things we could look up on wikipedia if we were so inclined. I guess it's a Steven A Smith "trying to get attention" thing.

EVERYTHING I SAY IS IMPORTANT AND FACTUAL!

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- Mars

[mystargtr34]

What a tool :lol

[Supreme_Being]

In today’s lesson I will discuss the strengths and weaknesses of some different defenses:

Man to Man – If run correctly it has the potential to be the best defense. Its not as much about guarding your man as it as about the help side D and rotations. If certain things are done correctly like backing into gaps, a good offense can be somewhat neutralized. Just like all defenses, a lot of communication is necessary. It can be hard to stay in man to man if a team is much quicker and the rotation is not quick enough.

2-3 zone or 2-1-2 zone: The most commonly used zone. It is susceptible to 3 pointers on the wing and top of the key. It is the best zone for blocking out and rebounding, because you have 3 players in or near the lane. The way to negate the 3 point shooting is to extend the zone and be more vulnerable near the basket.

1–2-2 or 3-2 zone: It is becoming more commonly seen as a change of pace D in the NBA. The susceptible part in this zone is obviously the middle of the lane. It is good against 3 point shooting teams because it allows you to extend the defense on the shooters. It is also susceptible if the offense works the ball into the corner and overloads one side. It is tough to rotate block to block since the bottom 2 guys are also responsible for the corners.

1-3-1 zone: Typically a trapping zone. It is not really used in the NBA. It is good for smaller scrappy teams trying to get steals. It is typically used against weak ball handling teams. It can be susceptible to open 3’s if the rotation is not quick enough. The traps are obviously the key to this defense. When trapping, some players have a tendency to give weak traps allowing the offensive player to split them and then you are beat. When trapping you want to mirror the ball and try and force a turnover.

Kori if you use this in one of your articles, I want some cash.


Are you actually trying to teach defensive basketball fans about defense?

[to21]

LAME!

Stop posting excerpts from the book you use to teach basketball to ur kinder team:

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[Nolazach]

stop signing every post, only I Mars am gay enough to do that Mars Mars mars, don't you forget it. ooopps forgot the sig
- Mars

[NoMoneyDown]

I am not pretending anything. I do know more about basketball than everyone here

No. The only thing you are doing is showing everyone just how much attention you need. It's sad really.

[samikeyp]

I am not pretending anything. I do know more about basketball than everyone here

Liar.

[cajunhornetsbayou]

stop making stupid threads

keep it to one thread if any

- Mars

what have you contributed to this board? Nothing

[urunobili]

I do know more about basketball than everyone here

:violin

[HornetGumboBalls]

what have you contributed to this board? Nothing

He's contributed cute pictures, your mom jokes, chuck norris jokes, etc. Pure comedy at its best.

[SpurOutofTownFan]

Basketball is a team sport in which two teams of five active players each try to score points against one another by propelling a ball through a 10 feet (3 m) high hoop (the goal) under organized rules. Basketball is one of the most popular and widely viewed sports in the world.

Points are scored by shooting the ball through the basket above; the team with more points at the end of the game wins. The ball can be advanced on the court by bouncing it (dribbling) or passing it between teammates. Disruptive physical contact (fouls) is not permitted and there are restrictions on how the ball can be handled (violations).

Through time, basketball has developed to involve common techniques of shooting, passing and dribbling, as well as players' positions, and offensive and defensive structures. Typically, the tallest members of a team will play center, the shortest member usually plays "point" while often the best ball handlers are guards. While competitive basketball is carefully regulated, numerous variations of basketball have developed for casual play. In some countries, basketball is also a popular spectator sport.

While competitive basketball is primarily an indoor sport, played on a basketball court, less regulated variations have become exceedingly popular as an outdoor sport among both inner city and rural groups.

[SpurOutofTownFan]

About Dribbling:

In basketball, dribbling is the legal method of advancing the ball by oneself, as opposed to passing it to another player or shooting for the basket. It consists of bouncing the ball on the floor continuously while walking or running down the court.

The original Naismith rules said nothing about dribbling, merely stating that passing the ball was the legal way of advancing it. Players soon developed the strategy of "passing to themselves", which James Naismith himself both endorsed and admired for its ingenuity, and which evolved into the dribble as it is known today.

The dribble allows for much faster advancement and thus more opportunities for scoring. It also provides an opportunity for a crafty player on the opposing team to "steal" the ball in mid-bounce. Once a player stops dribbling the ball and holds it, the player normally must either pass it to another player or take a shot; if the player dribbles and then holds the ball in any way (either grasping it with his hands or arms, or "palming" it, i.e. holding it too much toward its underside during the act of dribbling) then continues to dribble, then the referee stops the play, signals either "double dribble" or "carrying", and turns the ball over to the other team.

Skilled ball handlers bounce the ball low to the ground, reducing the risk of a defender reaching in to steal the ball. Adept dribblers can dribble behind their backs, between their legs and change hands without watching the ball, making the player difficult to defend and opening up options to pass, shoot or drive with the ball.

The National Association of Basketball Coaches (NABC) was founded in 1927 to oppose a move to eliminate dribbling from the sport.

[SpurOutofTownFan]

Playing regulations

Games are played in four quarters of 10 (international) or 12 minutes (NBA). College games use two 20 minute halves while most high school games use eight minute quarters. Fifteen minutes are allowed for a half-time break, and two minutes are allowed at the other breaks. Overtime periods are five minutes long. Teams exchange baskets for the second half. The time allowed is actual playing time; the clock is stopped while the play is not active. Therefore, games generally take much longer to complete than the allotted game time, typically about two hours.

Five players from each team (out of a twelve player roster) may be on the court at one time. Substitutions are unlimited but can only be done when play is stopped. Teams also have a coach, who oversees the development and strategies of the team, and other team personnel such as assistant coaches, managers, statisticians, doctors and trainers.

For both men's and women's teams, a standard uniform consists of a pair of shorts and a jersey with a clearly visible number, unique within the team, printed on both the front and back. Players wear high-top sneakers that provide extra ankle support. Typically, team names, players' names and, outside of North America, sponsors are printed on the uniforms.

A limited number of time-outs, clock stoppages requested by a coach for a short meeting with the players, are allowed. They generally last no longer than one minute unless, for televised games, a commercial break is needed.

The game is controlled by the officials consisting of the referee ("crew chief" in men's college and the NBA), one or two umpires ("referees" in men's college and the NBA) and the table officials. For college, the NBA, and many high schools, there are a total of three referees on the court. The table officials are responsible for keeping track of each teams scoring, timekeeping, individual and team fouls, player substitutions, team possession arrow, and the shot clock.

[GaryJohnston]

In today’s lesson I will discuss the strengths and weaknesses of some different defenses:

Man to Man – If run correctly it has the potential to be the best defense. Its not as much about guarding your man as it as about the help side D and rotations. If certain things are done correctly like backing into gaps, a good offense can be somewhat neutralized. Just like all defenses, a lot of communication is necessary. It can be hard to stay in man to man if a team is much quicker and the rotation is not quick enough.

2-3 zone or 2-1-2 zone: The most commonly used zone. It is susceptible to 3 pointers on the wing and top of the key. It is the best zone for blocking out and rebounding, because you have 3 players in or near the lane. The way to negate the 3 point shooting is to extend the zone and be more vulnerable near the basket.

1–2-2 or 3-2 zone: It is becoming more commonly seen as a change of pace D in the NBA. The susceptible part in this zone is obviously the middle of the lane. It is good against 3 point shooting teams because it allows you to extend the defense on the shooters. It is also susceptible if the offense works the ball into the corner and overloads one side. It is tough to rotate block to block since the bottom 2 guys are also responsible for the corners.

1-3-1 zone: Typically a trapping zone. It is not really used in the NBA. It is good for smaller scrappy teams trying to get steals. It is typically used against weak ball handling teams. It can be susceptible to open 3’s if the rotation is not quick enough. The traps are obviously the key to this defense. When trapping, some players have a tendency to give weak traps allowing the offensive player to split them and then you are beat. When trapping you want to mirror the ball and try and force a turnover.

Kori if you use this in one of your articles, I want some cash.


I've read alot of threads and posts this past week. And I've got to say, nice copy and paste. Knowledgeable basketball don't have to try fake prove they know about basketball. Nothing you've posted has convinced me you know shit about basketball. You just copy and paste. You've yet to engage in any true debate about the series or breakdown any games. Talk about a joke of a troll poster.

[SpurOutofTownFan]

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[SpurOutofTownFan]

1-2-2 Zone Defense

Strengths
The 1-2-2 zone has the advantages of being able to pressure the ball on the outside arc, allow for some trapping, and can be effective against a good outside shooting team (whereas the 2-3 zone is more effective against inside scoring).

Weaknesses
The major weaknesses are the (1) high post area, and (2) this defense can be attacked from the corners. Study the diagrams to understand how the zone shifts, or moves, and see the animation also.

[Nolazach]

I hate the Gators and Teabag Teabow.

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[GrandeDavid]

In today’s lesson I will discuss the strengths and weaknesses of some different defenses:

Man to Man – If run correctly it has the potential to be the best defense. Its not as much about guarding your man as it as about the help side D and rotations. If certain things are done correctly like backing into gaps, a good offense can be somewhat neutralized. Just like all defenses, a lot of communication is necessary. It can be hard to stay in man to man if a team is much quicker and the rotation is not quick enough.

2-3 zone or 2-1-2 zone: The most commonly used zone. It is susceptible to 3 pointers on the wing and top of the key. It is the best zone for blocking out and rebounding, because you have 3 players in or near the lane. The way to negate the 3 point shooting is to extend the zone and be more vulnerable near the basket.

1–2-2 or 3-2 zone: It is becoming more commonly seen as a change of pace D in the NBA. The susceptible part in this zone is obviously the middle of the lane. It is good against 3 point shooting teams because it allows you to extend the defense on the shooters. It is also susceptible if the offense works the ball into the corner and overloads one side. It is tough to rotate block to block since the bottom 2 guys are also responsible for the corners.

1-3-1 zone: Typically a trapping zone. It is not really used in the NBA. It is good for smaller scrappy teams trying to get steals. It is typically used against weak ball handling teams. It can be susceptible to open 3’s if the rotation is not quick enough. The traps are obviously the key to this defense. When trapping, some players have a tendency to give weak traps allowing the offensive player to split them and then you are beat. When trapping you want to mirror the ball and try and force a turnover.

Kori if you use this in one of your articles, I want some cash.

Do you need attention so badly that you must cut and paste a summary of basic basketball defenses from any old web site? You should have the decency to at least credit the source from which you paraphrased.

:rolleyes

[HornetGumboBalls]

I thought we've already proven that these are original works? No? Do we really have to do this again? You're own spurs fans have proven it. This guy writes this shit.

[GaryJohnston]

:lol, then why do you sound so articulate in your fake "posts" and so dumb in every other post.

Get a life loser.

[cajunhornetsbayou]

I've read alot of threads and posts this past week. And I've got to say, nice copy and paste. Knowledgeable basketball don't have to try fake prove they know about basketball. Nothing you've posted has convinced me you know shit about basketball. You just copy and paste. You've yet to engage in any true debate about the series or breakdown any games. Talk about a joke of a troll poster.

I wrote it myself, and actually I have debated the series and broke down games. Check the game 5 thoughts thread from yesterday. You are wrong sir.

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[Supreme_Being]

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[to21]

I thought we've already proven that these are original works? No? Do we really have to do this again? You're own spurs fans have proven it. This guy writes this shit.Then go spam hornetsreport with his work.

I can appreciate the effort, but really some people on here know basketball. Has anyone here asked for his lessons on basketball knowledge?

If so, shame on those who have.

[HornetGumboBalls]

I can appreciate the effort, but really some people on here know basketball. Has anyone here asked for his lessons on basketball knowledge?

If so, shame on those who have.

and some people don't. some people have actually complimented him on it. quit being selfish.

[cajunhornetsbayou]

Do you need attention so badly that you must cut and paste a summary of basic basketball defenses from any old web site? You should have the decency to at least credit the source from which you paraphrased.

:rolleyes

It all comes from my experience playing and coaching basketball. Most nba color commentators and analysts would know this (besides Doris Burke, Stacey Dales, etc...) Its not overly complicated stuff, but obviously a lot of the board doesnt know it if they think I cut and pasted it from somewhere.

[to21]

and some people don't. some people have actually complimented him on it. quit being selfish.Those people should be shot.

[HornetGumboBalls]

Those people should be shot

a lot of you should be shot. a lot of the population of san antonio should have been shot right as they crossed the border as well.

[dickface]

this troll is fucking hilarious.

[cajunhornetsbayou]

a lot of you should be shot. a lot of the population of san antonio should have been shot right as they crossed the border as well.

:lol:rollin Mars post a clever picture saying "That is funny" or something

[HornetGumboBalls]

Mars likes to put pictures up to make his arguments. He adds absolutely 0 input. He just says "U're a troll! troll! don't feed the trolls! (insert picture) - mars"

[michaelwcho]

Hornets 3-2 Troll

A type of weak-minded troll with little self-awareness who spends hours a day on an opposing team's message board when his team is winning.

The disadvantages of this troll are his ability to annoy and distract legitimate fans and waste valuable bandwidth.

One possible advantage is that the more time he is in front of the keyboard, the less chance he can hurt himself trying to play basketball or operate motor vehicles.

[bobbybob0]

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[Nolazach]

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Does anyone have pictures of the Spurs Darth Vader they had on the screen during introductions at the Hornets games?

I thought that was actually bad-ass. Usually they play "Deep in the heart of Texas" when the Spurs are coming out, this time they played the Imperial march and showed a Spurs Vader. I thought it was pretty cool, vader kicks ass.

Or the wack a mole with the Spurs Coyote, thats classic.

[Supreme_Being]

Mars likes to put pictures up to make his arguments. He adds absolutely 0 input. He just says "U're a troll! troll! don't feed the trolls! (insert picture) - mars"

Look who's talking.

[cajunhornetsbayou]

"Deep in the heart of Texas" .

One of the worst songs ever written

[Kermit]

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[ClingingMars]

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- Mars

[ClingingMars]

Mars likes to put pictures up to make his arguments. He adds absolutely 0 input. He just says "U're a troll! troll! don't feed the trolls! (insert picture) - mars"

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:dont

:)

- Mars

[Nolazach]

One of the worst songs ever written

I think thats why we play it, most Texans don't seem to respond favorably to it. I only remember it because it was the song Pee-Wee used to prove he was in Texas, in his movie.

[cajunhornetsbayou]

Check out my poll for "best hornets fan" on "the club" board. I am surprised hornetsgumboballs hasnt gotten any votes yet. He seems to be a favorite of you guys.

[cajunhornetsbayou]

What would everyone like to learn about tomorrow? I have a couple of ideas, but wanted to see if their is a particular topic you guys need some brushing up on.

[SAtown]

What would everyone like to learn about tomorrow? I have a couple of ideas, but wanted to see if their is a particular topic you guys need some brushing up on.

Grammar and Spelling 101

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Grammar and Spelling 101

:lol

[Solid D]

1-3-1 zone...It is not really used in the NBA

I've seen it used a few times. Just off the top of my head, a couple come to mind. Flip Saunders used a 1-3-1 successfully against the Spurs when he was with the Wolves and wanted to keep TP out of the lane. Denver used it some in a game against the Spurs when Michael Cooper took over the head coaching duties after Jeff Bzdelik was fired. Pop has used a 1-3-1 zone press from time to time.

[homer]

If I saw you in a bar, it would be one of those transvestite ones on Bourbon Street that everyone wonders through sooner or later. Let me know what kind of outfit you'll be wearing so we can be sure to shoot you the rod.:hat

Cajun is obviosly a hermaphrodite who plagerized Basketball For Dummies for his vast, superior Knowledge of BBall. The other herms, trannies, and the entire gay community of New Orleans has nick-named him/her "pump-fake" for obvios reasons.:rollin:rollin

[ClingingMars]

lol, bump...

also, great joy that bayou was finally banned.

- Mars

[cherylsteele]

I think thats why we play it, most Texans don't seem to respond favorably to it. I only remember it because it was the song Pee-Wee used to prove he was in Texas, in his movie.
We could play "Rock You Like A Hurricane" by The Scorpions, but some Hornets fans may consider that bad taste, The Spurs are being considerate.

[curtismedellin]

I hate the Gators and Teabag Teabow.

http://thejortreport.com/blog/images/O63466.jpg

I love the Gators and Tennessee, and i"d like LSU except thier fans are Baton Rogue crawroach suckin,transvestite lovin, New Orleans leeching, trailor park trash.


Roll Tide.

[curtismedellin]

I am not pretending anything. I do know more about basketball than everyone here


Great a guy who started, what? every game his high school basketball career, is gonna lecture everyone about his basketball knowledge. Wow. I hang on his every word.

This guy loves Louisianna so much he moved to Los Angeles.


Bleaux Hornets

[spursfaninbr]

Great a guy who started, what? every game his high school basketball career, is gonna lecture everyone about his basketball knowledge. Wow. I hang on his every word.

This guy loves Louisianna so much he moved to Los Angeles.


Bleaux Hornets

How do you know he moved to Los Angeles? I did not see him say that.

[spursfaninbr]

I love the Gators and Tennessee, and i"d like LSU except thier fans are Baton Rogue crawroach suckin,transvestite lovin, New Orleans leeching, trailor park trash.


Roll Tide.

Baton Rouge is a pretty affluent city, so I dont know where you get the trailer park trash thing from. Transvestite lovin? I dont know where you are getting this from. New Orleans leeching? I dont know what this even means. Baton Rouge is the capital of LA. Crawroach suckin? They are crawfish not crawroaches, and they are very good.

[Nolazach]

We could play "Rock You Like A Hurricane" by The Scorpions, but some Hornets fans may consider that bad taste, The Spurs are being considerate.

Someone brought that up earlier. Before 2005 the Saints used to play that all the time. For some reason they just stopped after the 2005 season.

On the other hand "Deep in the Heart of Texas" was a song written to talk about the beauty of Texas. As someone who was born there, the last thing I want to do is trash the state.

I hate to admit this, but i didn't really mind the Katrina jokes, just thought they were dumb. I'm indifferent.


Baton Rouge is a pretty affluent city, so I dont know where you get the trailer park trash thing from. Transvestite lovin? I dont know where you are getting this from. New Orleans leeching? I dont know what this even means. Baton Rouge is the capital of LA. Crawroach suckin? They are crawfish not crawroaches, and they are very good.

Yeah baton Rouge and new Orleans are different like Austin and Dallas. Most people in Baton Rouge hate New Orleans more than yall do, and make more looter and Katrina jokes too.

Crawfish kick ass. Rural Alabama is about the most hickish you can get in this whole country. BAMA sucks, and yall may have Saban, but you will live on the Bottom of the SEC. Yo0u will never beat Aubburn, ever.