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Hook Dem
01-23-2005, 11:20 AM
Remember when Puerto Rico was raising heck about the US Navy using that nothing little island just off the coast of Puerto Rico for bombing
practices, which they had used for the past 75 years? Demonstrations were held, Hollywood left wingers, Al Sharpton, and his fellow demagogues went down there to demonstrate to get the Navy out? I am sure it infuriated you just as it did me at the time. Wellllllllllllllll, here is our revenge.

Always be careful what you ask for, you just may get it!

One of the many headaches that the U. S. has had was the Puerto Rican Island of Vieques. In the waning years of the Clinton Administration, protesters demanded that the US Navy abandon bombing and naval gun fire exercises that had taken place on the largely uninhabited island for nearly seventy years. Liberal icons bumped into one another to fly to Puerto Rico, boat over to the island, trespass (but never on a day that there was an exercise scheduled) and get arrested for the benefit of the New York Times or Newsweek. They included the

Reverend Al Sharpton,

Mrs. Jesse Jackson,

Joan Baez,

Robert F. Kennedy, Jr.,

Edward Olmos,

Michael Moore and

Ramsey Clark, just to name a few.

In 2002, the bombing exercises were transferred to an Air Force bombing range in central Florida, not far from the Jacksonville and Pensacola Naval Air Stations. In January, many of the protesters were back in Puerto Rico, celebrating the final bombing exercise on Vieques and waved Puerto Rican flags and placards that read "U.S. Navy, get out of Puerto Rico."

The following Feb, Rumsfeld announced that the U.S. Navy will close the in Puerto Rico in 2004, eliminating 1200 civilian jobs as well as 700 military positions. This naval facility is estimated to have put nearly $300 million annually into the local economy.

The next day a stunned Governor Sila Calderon, held a news conference in San Juan, protesting the base closure as a serious blow to the Commonwealth's fragile economy. The governor stated that
"The people of Puerto Rico don't now or never did have an interest in
closing the Vieques bombing range or the Roosevelt Roads naval base. We are interested in both staying in Puerto Rico."

When asked, the Commander-in Chief, Western Atlantic Command, said, "Without Vieques, I see no further need for the facility at Roosevelt Roads. None."

So, Yanqui go home? Fine. But we'll take our dollars with us. Hasta la
vista, baby!

On February 21, the Secretary of Defense also announced that starting this year, the U.S. European Command would begin moving most if not all of its active combat and support units from bases in Germany to others being established in Poland, The Czech Republic, Hungary and Turkey to "better position them for rapid deployment to likely hot spots in those parts of the world."

Immediately the business and government leaders in the German states of Hesse, Rhineland and Wurttemburg, protested the loss of nearly $6 billion in revenue each year from the bases and manpower to be displaced. A spokesman for the Foreign Ministry speculated that the move may be "what the Americans call 'payback' for the actions of this government in opposing Military action in Iraq.

" Does anyone know the German translation for "Hasta la vista, baby?"

Oh, ain't it nice to see a government with guts and a good memory. Now go out and have a great day !

GOD BLESS AMERICA

The Old Sarge comments... Europeans, like the French and the Germans, might not like Americans, or our government, but they sure like the billions we pour into their coffers in military/financial aid. The Germans are screaming like stuck pigs over the loss of the billions upon billions over the years, they will lose because of the termination of our military bases in their country. Perhaps they should have thought about that before they decided to turn their backs on us.... It is pay back time....

ClintSquint
01-23-2005, 01:03 PM
But Hook Dem, bases were also closed in the United States with many American workers having to say "hasta la vista baby" to their gov't jobs...and they didn't even have to ask for lose their jobs. And those were not exactly caused by "liberals".

Hook Dem
01-23-2005, 01:27 PM
"And those were not exactly caused by "liberals"." ..........................I'm gonna have to disagree Clint!

Nbadan
01-24-2005, 02:34 AM
Sorry to burst your sadistic bubble Hook, but it looks like the Puerto Ricans are making the best of the base closure...


As of Sept. 30, when President Bush signed legislation directing the Navy to close the base within six months, the naval base's population had already dropped to about 4,500.
"Rosy Roads supported the Vieques bombing range, and with the closure of that, the requirement for a support base evaporated," said David MacKinnon, associate director of the Pentagon's Office of Economic Adjustment.
"Any base closure that removes jobs from an area will have at least a temporary negative effect," Mr. MacKinnon said. "The military people will all go somewhere else, and their dependents go with them. Our role is to help make a transition from a military facility to a civilian one through technical and financial assistance."
About 85 percent of the base lies in the municipality of Ceiba; the remaining 15 percent is in Naguabo. As such, the nine-member local redevelopment authority includes the mayors of both towns as well as private and public-sector officials.
Mr. Segarra said that a small number of federal agencies, including the Army Reserve, the Department of Homeland Security and U.S. Customs, have asked to hold onto 255 of the base's 8,612 acres. The rest could be opened up to a combination of hotels, tourist resorts, middle-class housing, a marina, a cruise-ship port — even a science park geared toward the island's booming pharmaceutical industry.
"It's not going to be all tourism," he said. "The key is to have a well-balanced mix of economic development. You will not see a plan from this government that puts all efforts in just one sector."
Among other things, the base contains more than 1,200 residential units and a number of buildings; more than 50 percent of the area consists of environmentally sensitive wetlands that are home to the yellow-shouldered blackbird and other endangered species.
Clouding the shutdown is the issue of contamination, including groundwater polluted with heavy metals and volatile organic compounds, and soil with PCB and sediments, according to the EPA. Mr. Segarra said "it's a priority for the Local Redevelopment Authority that the Navy comply with its obligation to clean up the lands," though Mr. MacKinnon said contamination levels are relatively modest.
"It won't be a big problem to clean it up. Rosy Roads was not an industrial site, and the airfield was used only for transport, not training," Mr. MacKinnon said.
In the long term, said Mr. Segarra, the naval base's nine piers and geographic proximity to Vieques, Culebra and the Virgin Islands offer "tremendous maritime opportunities" for the area.
"Every single year, the cruise companies are adding luxury liners to their fleets, and I see an excellent opportunity to make Ceiba a port of call for some of these cruise ships, as well as develop opportunities in nautical tourism," Mr. Segarra said. "Ceiba is located in such a position that it opens up the Caribbean for cruise ships as well as private yachts."
He added that offering ferry service between Ceiba and Vieques will shave 20 to 30 minutes off the travel time of the current ferry, which serves Vieques from the town of Fajardo, about five miles north of Rosy Roads.
The base also boasts an airport with an 11,000-foot runway, leading some to speculate that the facility could someday supplement or even eclipse San Juan's Luis Munoz Marin International Airport.
What's eventually done with the former naval base is the subject of a $600,000 reuse master plan being drawn up by C.B. Richard Ellis Inc. The plan is expected to be submitted to Mr. Segarra's office by August.
"The idea is that the airport would tie into tourism and take some pressure off San Juan's airport," Mr. MacKinnon said. "There's also some discussion about moving the Puerto Rico Air National Guard from San Juan to Rosy Roads."

Washington Times (http://www.washingtontimes.com/national/20040401-123456-9250r.htm)

One committee even claims the facility is costing Puerto Rico $1 billion dollars per year in lost tourism revenue...


In reality, the Roosevelt Roads naval base is costing the people of Puerto Rico over a billion dollars a year, according to a study by a special research committee of the Hostosiano National Congress led by urban planner José Rivera Santana, recently named Planner of the Year by Puerto Rico Planners Association.

Forusa.org (http://www.forusa.org/programs/puertorico/pr_update_0602.html)

Hook Dem
01-24-2005, 10:53 AM
http://www.forusa.org/programs/puertorico/pr_update_0602.html????????????................... ......OH!!!!! Okay!!!!!!!! :lol