No wonder the refs are tempted to cheat by sports bookies

[BRHornet45]

they get paid chump change. I know that if I was a ref making $100,000 per year and some big shot bookie in Vegas offered me $250,000 to make a couple bad calls, I would do it. this shit happens more than you may want to believe. However, I don't think that the refs should be making millions by any means, but they should make more than what they make now.

"NBA Refs: Pay Raise Might Help Integrity of Game"

http://www.cnbc.com/id/19876494

[Marklar MM]

I would run around blowing a whistle for 100 grand. Sign me up.

[DBryant88]

me 2 and getting the best veiw of the game would exelente

[Reggie Miller]

I would run around blowing a whistle for 100 grand. Sign me up.


Yep. The season is longer than the NFL, but you don't have to freeze your ass off for half of it, either. You could easily make another $75,000-$150,000in the offseason through perfectly legitimate and legal endeavors, such as camps/clinics for referees in training.

[MaNuMaNiAc]

they get paid chump change. I know that if I was a ref making $100,000 per year and some big shot bookie in Vegas offered me $250,000 to make a couple bad calls, I would do it. this shit happens more than you may want to believe. However, I don't think that the refs should be making millions by any means, but they should make more than what they make now.

"NBA Refs: Pay Raise Might Help Integrity of Game"

http://www.cnbc.com/id/19876494

Integrity shouldn't have a fucking price. SPECIALLY since the fuckers aren't exactly starving! 100,000 isn't chump change, its completely fair pay. People don't pay to see the refs, the refs don't put people in the stands. They are performing a job like anybody else, and they get more vacation time than most people too.

I love the whole "pay the refs more so they don't defraud the league" bullshit... pfff.

[Reggie Miller]

Integrity shouldn't have a fucking price. SPECIALLY since the fuckers aren't exactly starving! 100,000 isn't chump change, its completely fair pay. People don't pay to see the refs, the refs don't put people in the stands. They are performing a job like anybody else, and they get more vacation time than most people too.

I love the whole "pay the refs more so they don't defraud the league" bullshit... pfff.


There's that, and there's also this fun fact: people always want more. There is no way the refs will ever make what even a league average player could make in his career. Even if you could pay them that, then the expectations/demands would just rise to a new level, so to speak. Studies show that most people spend what they make. Pay them more, and they spend more. In other words, not only would it be a morally indefensible policy, it wouldn't really work on a practical level, IMHO.

[BRHornet45]

Integrity shouldn't have a fucking price. SPECIALLY since the fuckers aren't exactly starving! 100,000 isn't chump change, its completely fair pay. People don't pay to see the refs, the refs don't put people in the stands. They are performing a job like anybody else, and they get more vacation time than most people too.

I love the whole "pay the refs more so they don't defraud the league" bullshit... pfff.

well I agree that integrity shouldn't have a price, but how can the NBA justify paying some of their worthless executives over $1,000,000 per year whenever all they do is sit on their ass in an office doing next to nothing while a referee actually has REAL effects on games?. sure $100,000 is a lot of money, but including taxes, also take away probably close to a fourth of that in travel expenses. A ref making $100,000 per year probably sees about $40,000 of that.

I am not saying that isn't good money. All I am saying is that it is no wonder why the refs are tempted by more $$$ to help throw a game.

[JamStone]

I agree integrity doesn't have a price. But, I do think NBA officials should get paid more. $100,000-$300,000 is a lot of money, but considering that the NBA is a billion dollar business and the players and coaches and executives are all making well into the millions, the officials should share in the success of the business. Instead of $100,000-$300,000, the range should be something like $500,000-$1,000,000.

[BRHornet45]

I agree integrity doesn't have a price. But, I do think NBA officials should get paid more. $100,000-$300,000 is a lot of money, but considering that the NBA is a billion dollar business and the players and coaches and executives are all making well into the millions, the officials should share in the success of the business. Instead of $100,000-$300,000, the range should be something like $500,000-$1,000,000.

Agreed 100% ... after all, the refs can make or break a game with one single call. They have just as much effect on the game as the players do.

[baseline bum]

$100,000 to work maybe 100-120 nights a year for four hours is chump change? Shit, some of them make close to $300,000. Looks like a pretty great job to me.

[Supergirl]

Uhhh...how much do YOU make a year? Cause where I sit, $100K a year sounds pretty fucking awesome to me.

[boutons_]

"$100,000 to work maybe 100-120 nights a year"

understating the job. NBA refs are

away from home,

to/from airports,hotels,

flying just totally sucks/stressful/unreliable,

and many hours preparing and reviewing game recordings,

spent decades working their way up to NBA through amateur/semi-pro/etc low-paid ref jobs.

If you put up with all that overhead, $100K for working in show-business is still in the top few % of all salaries. They're not suffering. Nobody's forcing them.

[BRHornet45]

Uhhh...how much do YOU make a year? Cause where I sit, $100K a year sounds pretty fucking awesome to me.

thats not even the point. the point is that you can see how easily tempted the refs may be to take a larger sum of money to blow games and the fact that the NBA executives get paid 10 times more than the refs whenever they do next to nothing for it.

[BRHornet45]

"$100,000 to work maybe 100-120 nights a year"

understating the job. NBA refs are

away from home,

to/from airports,hotels,

flying just totally sucks/stressful/unreliable,

and many hours preparing and reviewing game recordings,

spent decades working their way up to NBA through amateur/semi-pro/etc low-paid ref jobs.

If you put up with all that overhead, $100K for working in show-business is still in the top few % of all salaries. They're not suffering. Nobody's forcing them.



exactly ... $100,000 to them AFTER all travel expenses and taxes is more like $40,000 (plus being away from home). yet some fat slob NBA executive is sitting in his office making $2,000,000 a year. doesn't make sense.

[Sportcamper]

Very Cool Centaur…

[MaNuMaNiAc]

exactly ... $100,000 to them AFTER all travel expenses and taxes is more like $40,000 (plus being away from home). yet some fat slob NBA executive is sitting in his office making $2,000,000 a year. doesn't make sense.

ok, just curious, but are you sure they don't have expenses paid while traveling to work games for the league? I'd think that would be a no brainer

[dickface]

exactly ... $100,000 to them AFTER all travel expenses and taxes is more like $40,000 (plus being away from home). yet some fat slob NBA executive is sitting in his office making $2,000,000 a year. doesn't make sense.

LOL you dumbass there's no way refs pay their way. They get all that shit taken care of for them. They probably get put in very nice hotels and I'd bet they get a decent per diem too.

[BRHornet45]

LOL you dumbass there's no way refs pay their way. They get all that shit taken care of for them. They probably get put in very nice hotels and I'd bet they get a decent per diem too.

hey shit face of course the NBA covers their flights and hotel. that was a no brainer ..... but regardless they are on the road and have more expenses than someone who is working a "normal" job. not to mention the fact that they are away from their families the entire time only to come back home with $40,000-$60,000.

[stretch]

exactly ... $100,000 to them AFTER all travel expenses and taxes is more like $40,000 (plus being away from home). yet some fat slob NBA executive is sitting in his office making $2,000,000 a year. doesn't make sense.

are you fucking retarded?

[hater]

Integrity shouldn't have a fucking price. SPECIALLY since the fuckers aren't exactly starving! 100,000 isn't chump change, its completely fair pay. People don't pay to see the refs, the refs don't put people in the stands. They are performing a job like anybody else, and they get more vacation time than most people too.

I love the whole "pay the refs more so they don't defraud the league" bullshit... pfff.

yup. and they get free meals, travel, clothing for most of the year. Shit, they live like kings for most of the year.

and, a dirty greedy ref will be greedy and dirty wether he's making 100k or 200k or 300k.

[BRHornet45]

are you fucking retarded?

slob on my nob, like corn on a cob

[hater]

exactly ... $100,000 to them AFTER all travel expenses and taxes is more like $40,000 (plus being away from home). yet some fat slob NBA executive is sitting in his office making $2,000,000 a year. doesn't make sense.

:lmao what???

they probably expense everything including all the donuts that Joey Crawford eats. u do know the concept of "travel expense" right? :donkey

[Reggie Miller]

Yeah, it's not like any of the greedy fucks have ever been busted for reselling their complimentary league first-class airline tickets, then flying coach. On top of that, it's not like any of them went on to fail to declare this as additional income to the IRS.

Oh wait...that's only the most well-known referee scandal in NBA history, and it happened less than fifteen years ago...

Clearly, giving an asshole like Joey Crawford more money is the solution...


http://www.referee.com/sampleArticles/2001/SampleArticle0101/interviews/crawford/Crawfordtext.html

[BonnerDynasty]

I would run around blowing a whistle for 100 grand. Sign me up.

Exactly.

Maybe 100k isn't enough to keep these fucks from cheating, but 100k a year is enough to keep ME from cheating.

[Geezerballer]

This thread is a perfect example of not understanding basic economics. The price you (or anybody else) gets paid is directly related to the price your boss would have to pay somebody to replace you.

As long as someone else is willing to do the job for $100K, that's the price it's worth.

[stretch]

slob on my nob, like corn on a cob

check in with me, and do your job

[baseline bum]

hey shit face of course the NBA covers their flights and hotel. that was a no brainer ..... but regardless they are on the road and have more expenses than someone who is working a "normal" job. not to mention the fact that they are away from their families the entire time only to come back home with $40,000-$60,000.

The NBA covers all of the expenses short of strip club bills for these guys... and $100,000 is about the minimum for a ref. If you've worked 10+ years you're probably a lot closer to the $300,000 range than the $100,000 one.

[baseline bum]

well I agree that integrity shouldn't have a price, but how can the NBA justify paying some of their worthless executives over $1,000,000 per year whenever all they do is sit on their ass in an office doing next to nothing while a referee actually has REAL effects on games?. sure $100,000 is a lot of money, but including taxes, also take away probably close to a fourth of that in travel expenses. A ref making $100,000 per year probably sees about $40,000 of that.

I am not saying that isn't good money. All I am saying is that it is no wonder why the refs are tempted by more $$$ to help throw a game.

Boo fucking hoo... refs have to pay taxes like the rest of us.

[hater]

hey shit face of course the NBA covers their flights and hotel. that was a no brainer ..... but regardless they are on the road and have more expenses than someone who is working a "normal" job. not to mention the fact that they are away from their families the entire time only to come back home with $40,000-$60,000.

wow you are so completely clueless, its pathetic.

They don't spend a dime when they are on the road. They expense everything.

too much cajun sauce done fucked up your brain!

[TampaDude]

They don't spend a dime when they are on the road. They expense everything.


WERD...back in the day, I used to travel all the time as a DOD contractor...100K+ miles a year...Uncle Sam picked up the tab for EVERYTHING...I ate a lot of steak dinners and sushi when I was traveling...per diem FTMFW...

[Armando]

100,00 chump change? Man sign me up for that crappy job.

[mFFL03]

100K a year?

psssshhh

I got kids to feed jack

[BlackSwordsMan]

wow refs get 100 grand a year?

[Supergirl]

thats not even the point. the point is that you can see how easily tempted the refs may be to take a larger sum of money to blow games and the fact that the NBA executives get paid 10 times more than the refs whenever they do next to nothing for it.

No, I don't really see how that follows at all.
I shold go rob a bank or cheat on my taxes because some corporate schmucks make 10 times as much as I do while doing half as much work? There is a serious logical fallacy in your argument.

[greyforest]

everyone crying that refs should be happy with their $100k salaries don't understand.

the refs are put in a position in which they can potentially make a SHITLOAD of cash. they have a huge influence on the outcome of nationally broadcast professional sports - an industry through which billions of dollars flow every month.

if you live in the US you must understand the fundamental nature of capitalism. SOMEBODY is willing to pay the refs to bias the game, because they can profit more than they pay the refs. these people could be bookies, individuals betting on games, teams - GMs, owners, the NBA itself, etc.

you think the scandal last year was just some isolated incident? ha!