Die 4down die

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Duncan 2-10, 2 turnovers.

Fucking end it already, Pop.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

This one is on Duncan AHF. He's decided to play like an offensive pussy tonight.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

This one is on Duncan AHF. He's decided to play like an offensive pussy tonight.

So why continue to run every play for him? :rolleyes

Parker 3-5
Manu 3-7

Combined 9-10 on FTs.

Duncan 2-10, 2 turnovers.

This is what pisses me off about 4down. Duncan is laying a fucking egg, you've got two other guys who can score. And yet Pop keeps going to him. Quit forcing the issue if Tim is going to be a pussy on offense, go somewhere else and tell him any time he wants to nut up you'll be happy to give him the ball again.

Don't keep giving him the ball if he's going to be a pussy with it.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

I guess he's hoping Duncan can't suck forever. But at this rate, maybe he will..

[Cant_Be_Faded]

The plays are getting Duncan the ball where he normally makes more shots than he misses. Pop needs to bitch duncan's punk ass out hardcore during halftime, then keep running the play. Light a fire under the big guy's ass.

[thekingrobert]

if West is able to continue guarding Duncan one on one then it takes away all the open threes we are getting so he has to continue to go to Duncan and keep the defense honest

[TDfan2007]

He's having one of those nights...this is getting almost predictable now. He hits his first few...good night. He misses his first few...bad night, bad FT shooting, everything goes to hell.

Tim's making a David West seem like a HoF defensive player out there. Sad.

[MannyIsGod]

Manu and Tony aren't getting to the hole off of the PnR because Chandler is flashing hard then coming back. You can beat this with weak side penetration so maybe they'll draw up some stuff to take advantage of that but you're going to have to put Manu or Tony in different positions because those spots are being taken by Finley and Bowen right now and those aren't the guys you want penetrating.

[td4mvp21]

We need to attack more and definitely more ball movement. Don't forget what got you wins in Games 3 and 4, Spurs.

[dbreiden83080]

You know there is a 2nd half to play here guys. Lets relax.

[polandprzem]

Aggie have you send e-mail to everybody bitching about Pop going 4 down?

Cause I think that those 12678 posts about that is not enough.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

BS Manny, we aren't running the pick and roll.

Here's some perspective for you guys:

2nd Quarter Spurs offense:

2 points, 1 turnover (led to NO layup) on nine possessions of four down.

21 points on 13 possessions of everything else (motion, PnR, transition, set inbounds plays).

I don't give a shit if it's Tim Duncan, if he's going to play this soft, go elsewhere for your points. Tell Tim to rebound, play D, and if he feels like pulling his head out on offense then you'll think about getting him the ball again.

He's letting Ely, West, and Chandler push him out of the low block, and he's not going to the rack to try and finish at the rim (1 FT attempt on an and-1 off a jumper on a pick and roll of all things).

[BlackSwordsMan]

Spurs playing bad and still up.

[timvp]

Yeah, gameplan should be to not pass the ball to your best player :rolleyes

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Aggie have you send e-mail to everybody bitching about Pop going 4 down?

Cause I think that those 12678 posts about that is not enough.

We won't win a game 7 in New Orleans. We have to get this tonight. Why does Pop feel the need to go away from what was working in games 3-4?

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Yeah, gameplan should be to not pass the ball to your best player :rolleyes

Nor should it be to keep feeding him when he's 2-10 with a turnover.

[TDMVPDPOY]

duncan layin an egg

who came first, duncan or the egg? YARLY

[polandprzem]

We won't win a game 7 in New Orleans. We have to get this tonight. Why does Pop feel the need to go away from what was working in games 3-4?

Are we gonna play game 7?

[polandprzem]

Duncan got flu-like symptoms

[v2freak]

I can't remember but are you the person that usually complains about 4down?

[MannyIsGod]

BS Manny, we aren't running the pick and roll.

Here's some perspective for you guys:

2nd Quarter Spurs offense:

2 points, 1 turnover (led to NO layup) on nine possessions of four down.

21 points on 13 possessions of everything else (motion, PnR, transition, set inbounds plays).

I don't give a shit if it's Tim Duncan, if he's going to play this soft, go elsewhere for your points. Tell Tim to rebound, play D, and if he feels like pulling his head out on offense then you'll think about getting him the ball again.

He's letting Ely, West, and Chandler push him out of the low block, and he's not going to the rack to try and finish at the rim (1 FT attempt on an and-1 off a jumper on a pick and roll of all things).

We are running it. Chandler is flashing out hard and they get NO penetration off of it at all. And Manu or Tony can't hit Duncan because the rotation is game planned for it.

They're defending it coming hard over those screens with a flash. This has holes that you exploit with weakside penetration but thats not the Spurs strength.

They aren't playing alone out there. There is a team playing defense dude.

[George Gervin's Afro]

when is tim going to stop begging for a call?

[Cant_Be_Faded]

Okay....duncan is seriously playing so ridiculously bad that I think we need to stop giving it to him and standing around.

this is turning into another fucking blowout

[Ginofan]

You can't even fucking breathe on Chris Fall without a whistle.

[Warlord23]

We had 4 turnovers caused by perimeter players in the first few minutes of the 3rd. That has killed us and probably cost us this game.

And 4-down isn't working either. They're doubling Tim, the pass is going around the perimeter without any open looks, and ultimately Tony is driving into the teeth of the D. They're rotating faster, and we're running the same fucking sequence over and over again.

Basically its been an offensive failure on all fronts

[polandprzem]

Whole team got flu-like symptoms

Fishing time?


gotdammit :pctoss



game 5 and spurs got no plan, no intensity no desire no nothing

[Nikos]

Yeah, gameplan should be to not pass the ball to your best player :rolleyes

Several times he had single convrege on him and missed BADLY. He just isn't responding to physical defense. He isn't IMPOSING his WILL. This is a supposed top 10 player of all time and he is sucking. What is the sense of even having Ginobili and Parker. Just get 4 stand still shoots who can defend, thats all the Spurs need in the playoffs anyway. Since whenever Duncan sucks its because teams pack the paint as a result of role players just MISSING shots.

BS.

Duncan needs to dominate. This is a supposed HALL OF FAMER. Of course the Hornets are going to do well when up 12-14 at home and the Spurs offense becomes predictable and PATHETIC!

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Okay....duncan is seriously playing so ridiculously bad that I think we need to stop giving it to him and standing around.

this is turning into another fucking blowout

No no no. Keep forcing it to Duncan. He was 2-11 at half. He's 4-16 after three. He just needs more touches.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Everyone who watch this team piss away that 2001 Lakers series with 4down should get sick watching this team run its offense tonight.

It's the same offense, New Orleans is defending it the same way, and we're seeing the same result.

Fuck 4down.

Oh, and Pop, small ball with Finley on West is even dumber. Why couldn't you have just gotten your sorry ass thrown out at the end of the first?

[Cant_Be_Faded]

This sucks. Very sad now. Going to bed.

[Nikos]

Seriously. Why don't the Spurs just get 4 spot up shooters. What is the use, if all playoff teams have to do is double and triple Duncan and force uncomfortable shots from the role players. Oh and just get one mistmatch and exploit it against the Spurs. Easy formula for a win.

One mismatch in West, and just triple Duncan and the rest of the Spurs will suck......