Ya know Tim.

[T Park]

I don't know what the F your deal is in New Orleans, but dude.....

Your shooting and pussified look at teh refs to bail you out BS tonight KILLED this team.

This loss is on you and Pop for thinking you'd eventually man up tonight.

Very very dissapointed in you Duncan.

[timvp]

Overconfidence. Like 90% of the fanbase.

[TDfan2007]

Are you fucking kidding me? I honestly don't know if I've ever seen a more inconsistent Hall of Famer, this season at least. It's almost like you can bank on Tim to have one poor game every five outings. He's already fucking had two in one series!

I've never seen him play this poorly in the playoffs before. Tonight was just about as torturous a loss as possible and I want to stay optimistic, but if the Spurs can't come out with intensity in the 2nd half of a pivotal game 5 and if your best player will lay in egg in said game, then...fuck, idk.

Tim needs to go back to that shooting machine. Just fucking shoot, eat, shoot, sleep. Rinse then fucking repeat. This is just ridiculous.

:depressed

[ducks]

was pop to?

[ducks]

was manu?
M. Ginobili G 37:30 5-15
was manu watching james?

[T Park]

Overconfidence= getting blocked by David Fucking West?

OK.

I just think Duncan for some reason thinks hes hakeem in that he can bag jumpers all night.

If he would attack as soon as he gets the damn ball Chandler and West wouldv'e been in foul trouble all Fing night.

No, he decided to stand, wait, stand, take fall aways, run sideways and flop.

Man up Duncan and take the ball right the F at them...

[ducks]

duncan got mad and dunked but late in 4

[dbreiden83080]

He got more aggressive in the 2nd half but he got fouled a few times, no calls and he got blocked as well. Bad game on O for him but he hit the hell out of the glass. What about Manu what the hell did he do tonight, i thought he was terrible and Tony was mediocre too.

[timvp]

Overconfidence= getting blocked by David Fucking West?

OK.

I just think Duncan for some reason thinks hes hakeem in that he can bag jumpers all night.

If he would attack as soon as he gets the damn ball Chandler and West wouldv'e been in foul trouble all Fing night.

No, he decided to stand, wait, stand, take fall aways, run sideways and flop.

Man up Duncan and take the ball right the F at them...Duncan acted like the Hornets were going to lay down and die. That's the same thing pretty much every Spurs fan thought coming into Game 5.

"Oh we blew them out in Game 4. Their confidence is rattled. We figured them out! Series over!"

That's how Duncan played ... like he didn't have to go out and get a win.

[SpurOutofTownFan]

T PARK!!!

Where the fuck was your lovely Tony Parker tonight????

[gameFACE]

As far as I know Tim didn't have the flu tonight...........................

[ATXSPUR]

Now I know what it feels like to have Dirk Nowitzki on your team during the playoffs.

You gotta get your shit together duncan!!!

[peskypesky]

[QUOTE=T Park;2493911]If he would attack as soon as he gets the damn ball Chandler and West wouldv'e been in foul trouble all Fing night.

No, he decided to stand, wait, stand, take fall aways, run sideways and flop.
/QUOTE]

yep. you speak the truth. if he would make a move as soon as he gets the ball i think he would fare better.

[ducks]

T PARK!!!

Where the fuck was your lovely Tony Parker tonight????

he was better then some spur players
blaming tp for this loss is wrong

[SPURS50]

Very disappionted in timmy right now! What the fucks his deal?

[SpurOutofTownFan]

he was better then some spur players
blaming tp for this loss is wrong

Who's blaming him for this loss? All players played horrible but you need to take the blinders off man - even parker played horrible, I just would like for you to call it as it was at least one time.

[T Park]

T PARK!!!

Where the fuck was your lovely Tony Parker tonight????


?
Whats Tony parker have to do with Duncan?


Parker was lousy as well, but the threads about Duncan. Duncan is the franchise. They follow his example. No one follows Parker's example. When he plays soft and passive, everyone else does. If he would've came out on that first play and drove right at the GD Hornets and wanted blood, this game goes to the Spurs and series. But no, he decided that he wanted to get bailed out and play like Dirk Gasol.

Absolutely disgusting :pctoss

[ducks]

reggie miller said tp was living on the floor tonight

[TDfan2007]

Now I know what it feels like to have Dirk Nowitzki on your team during the playoffs.

You gotta get your shit together duncan!!!

I don't remember Dirk laying an egg like Tim has in some games these playoffs. Dirk brings it come playoff time, his team just sucks. Tim assumed the fetal position tonight and as a result we lose.

Look in these playoffs, Tim has yet to put together two good games in a row. That is simply inexcusable and beyond pathetic for a supposed top 10 player. Hakeem would have looked at Chandler, laughed, then worked his ass to the bench. Tim just looks...and bricks...and bricks...and bricks.

[ducks]

duncan was a monster against suns

[T Park]

I don't remember Dirk laying an egg like Tim has in some games these playoffs. Dirk brings it come playoff time, his team just sucks. Tim assumed the fetal position tonight and as a result we lose.

Look in these playoffs, Tim has yet to put together two good games in a row. That is simply inexcusable and beyond pathetic for a supposed top 10 player. Hakeem would have looked at Chandler, laughed, then worked his ass to the bench. Tim just looks...and bricks...and bricks...and bricks.

You don't remember Dirk laying an egg.

Uh, did you miss some of the games in Golden State last year?

[SouthTexasRancher]

Tim it would be nice for you to show up when we play in New Orleans. This is getting ridiculous! Once again David West had a Monster game and you can't even hit the Gulf of Mexico while standing in it. You miss your first few shots or get a couple fouls called against you and you go into that Duncan Funk! This Spurs team is finished. N.O. will be so fired up come Thursday night that they just might beat us by 30 in the AT&T center. This is NOT a championship team the way we just give up and it is obvious that Pop sees the same thing the way he waves the white flag. I don't mind us losing...it is the way we lose...we just quit and quitters never win!!!

It is time to say goodbye Finley, Horry, Thomas, Oberto, Bonner, Vaughn, and Stoudamire. It would have been nice if you guys would have contributed this season. It's been nice while it lasted, but, it is imperative that we get younger, longer and more athletic. Tim is looking as old and slow as Shaq.

I do thank you for these...:lobt::lobt::lobt::lobt:

Don't forget 2009 is an odd year!!!

[ducks]

spurs should know west and chandler do a decent job on duncan so not to run 4-down as much

[SpurOutofTownFan]

man going back to subject - i don't know what else to say about duncan than i haven't said already after game 1. he's not only the team, the franchise.. he's the team captain ffs!!!!

You know you aren't getting any calls so you have to keep playing man.. he had 20+ rebounds so at least something was working - man they melted after some turnovers. Game over.

[MemphisSpursFan]

Is there a link that Pop/TD/GM/TP actually look at? it's obvious they don't look at Spurstalk. I'm tired of watching the players stay in the back court whining to the refs while the game continues without them. Tim needs to get aggressive or he can start making another baby this weekend. He neeeds to stop his God dammned whining on every possession and play basketball!: Pop needs to quit bailing the starters out by going to the bench when they fuck it up. Make them play the 'garbage time' they creat!

[Cant_Be_Faded]

I was completely expecting a win tonight, but mostly because I expected the team to come out and play their hardest all 48 minutes. Instead, Duncan was playing exactly as Tpark says, and it seemed to filter to Parker and Manu come 3rd quarter.

On the plus side, hornets have still not done much different. We are still open for practice-esque threese out there. All. Fucking. Game.

[SnakeBoy]

Tim will show up, no need to beg.

[2centsworth]

he was better then some spur players
blaming tp for this loss is wrong

TP played like a passive puss in the 3rd. I've never seen him play worse.

[TDfan2007]

?
Whats Tony parker have to do with Duncan?


Parker was lousy as well, but the threads about Duncan. Duncan is the franchise. They follow his example. No one follows Parker's example. When he plays soft and passive, everyone else does. If he would've came out on that first play and drove right at the GD Hornets and wanted blood, this game goes to the Spurs and series. But no, he decided that he wanted to get bailed out and play like Dirk Gasol.

Absolutely disgusting :pctoss

absolutely right. I don't know how he's going to sleep tonight, or tomorrow night for that matter. He COMPLETELY let everyone down tonight.

And for all those who say "oh yeah expect a big game from Tim tomorrow", "he'll go for 30/15", etc. it's not going to happen. There's just something that's not right about him in these playoffs. I think a lot of it has to do with his touch and confidence. He's getting NO bounces whatsoever.

Key to game 6 is to run motion with Tony and Manu until the Hornets are dizzy. Tim is not the answer in this series.

[T Park]

I will give him credit for the 20 plus rebounds.

Had he given that much effort on the offensive end, this game is 100% different.

[T Park]

absolutely right. I don't know how he's going to sleep tonight, or tomorrow night for that matter. He COMPLETELY let everyone down tonight.

And for all those who say "oh yeah expect a big game from Tim tomorrow", "he'll go for 30/15", etc. it's not going to happen. There's just something that's not right about him in these playoffs. I think a lot of it has to do with his touch and confidence. He's getting NO bounces whatsoever.

Key to game 6 is to run motion with Tony and Manu until the Hornets are dizzy. Tim is not the answer in this series.

No the key is Tim duncan's aggressiveness.
Parker can't penetrate and get his job done unlesss Duncan is playing like Duncan. Same for Ginobili.


The whole series rests on how aggressive and how much Tim Duncan wants to win the GD series. That simple.

[T Park]

TP played like a passive puss in the 3rd. I've never seen him play worse.

Agreed, very passive, very indecisive.

Give credit to the Hornet's defense on Parker though, they doubled him out high on the pick and rolls and forced him way out wasting clock and getting them out of their sets.

I really have no clue how you adjust to that. They totally took away the pick and roll tonight.

[dbreiden83080]

TP played like a passive puss in the 3rd. I've never seen him play worse.

Manu sucked too, everyone is all over Tim at least he hit the glass.

[DarrinS]

Hey, Tony was getting hammered, but Tim just played like a big 7' puss on the offensive end.

[T Park]

Manu sucked too, everyone is all over Tim at least he hit the glass.


But Duncan sets the tone offensively.

He was passive and soft, so the rest played passive and soft.

I really can't single out one guy that I thought brought a good effort tonight. Not one. Whats even more maddening? You do that, adn YOUR STILL DOWN 8 WITH 4 MINUTES TO FREAKIN PLAY!!!!!!!!!

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

I was kind of afraid of this when Duncan made the comment about how they had figured out where the doubles were coming from on him. It told me we were going back to 4down, and that he was going to play complacent.

And we did, and he did. And Pop kept going back to the same dried up well.

[2centsworth]

Manu sucked too, everyone is all over Tim at least he hit the glass.

Manu the magnificent has disappeared. Could never hit a crucial jumper and his defense for the most part was horrible.

[T Park]

I was kind of afraid of this when Duncan made the comment about how they had figured out where the doubles were coming from on him. It told me we were going back to 4down, and that he was going to play complacent.

And we did, and he did. And Pop kept going back to the same dried up well.


4 down works, when Duncan is agressive.

IE game 4.

[michaelwcho]

It was a very strange game. I'm looking forward to timvp's analysis. I started watching in the 3rd quarter.

I noticed that we seemed discombobulated and confused; certainly not the thing one should see with a veteran team. We were throwing the ball away, and making sloppy, weak moves. Just getting the ball to Tim was a big ordeal, and once he got it, he waited around as if he was afraid something bad was going to happen.

I wish Tony would have told him to "stay aggressive"!

[Budkin]

Tim will be fine, the Spurs will be fine. There will be no voodoo in Game 7. We got this shit.

[ATXSPUR]

Blame manu and parker all you want but Duncan sets the tone offensively and he was the one missing point black shots all night!

Like 8 fucking easy points in the first half he missed.

Atleast parker was busting his ass out there most of the game.

I find it hard to believe someone who has been in the league as long as tim would fall victim to overconfidence in a game this important but i just don't know anymore.

[Brutalis]

I am pretty let down. I wasn't calling the series over but damn.

We can't seem to shoot in NO? Why?

We have to win out or it's all over. I feel like we got shafted on calls but at the same time they took some sort of modest approach to start with. We started another game missing easy shots...

I believe we can do it. Tim has to just attack. I do not see us losing in the 2nd round to the Hornets. Not every game is going to get called like that. Just no more mistakes or Tim can just go chill for the summer.

[Kori Ellis]

I agree with TPark.

My post from another thread ...

Tim was extremely disappointing to me today. Chandler got his second foul midway through the 1st quarter and went out. Tim should have feasted right then. He didn't. He put up weak shots around the rim and looked SLOOOOOOOOOOOOW. I know he got 20+ boards, blahblah. I don't care. This was his game to dominate the interior and he didn't do it.

[Kori Ellis]

We can't seem to shoot in NO? Why?



Spurs shot really well from outside in the first half.

[SpurOutofTownFan]

The spurs had at least 2 or 3 opportunities up by 6-8 pts to put it away but then you had some clear shots missed, etc. It was closer than what people think but with your main guy playing like a pussy you can't win.

[dbreiden83080]

But Duncan sets the tone offensively.

He was passive and soft, so the rest played passive and soft.


Nonsense Tim played hard, sometimes the shots just don't fall. Early he was trying to beat the double teams then later in the game he tried to get better spots on the court but he was off his game tonight, it happens. He drove the lane 3 or 4 times tonight and missed the same shots he hit in game 4 when everyone said he was a beast. I did not see Duncan not trying out there he tried, he is a champion it wasn't his night. Manu and Tony had chances and did not do much of anything either, the big 3 laid an egg on offense period.

[kace]

Tim, for as much as i love him, was really bad tonight. Manu is killing us like he did or almost did in a lot of game this PO. I want him at his real level.
Tony wasn't outstanding tonight, but he scored 18 pts at 50 %. (manu was at 33 % and tim at 28 %). you can't blame him for not being the savior every game. (above all when he doesn't get any praise when he is).

but right now, i don't give a fuck who is playing well or not. we need at least two players of our big three to score some point at a good FG %.



i don't know but i didn't like that when they had to face adversity (NO aggressiveness or bad officiating), they just basically gave up being too passives.

[TDfan2007]

Nonsense Tim played hard, sometimes the shots just don't fall. Early he was trying to beat the double teams then later in the game he tried to get better spots on the court but he was off his game tonight, it happens. He drove the lane 3 or 4 times tonight and missed the same shots he hit in game 4 when everyone said he was a beast. I did not see Duncan not trying out there he tried, he is a champion it wasn't his night. Manu and Tony had chances and did not do much of anything either, the big 3 laid an egg on offense period.

Problem is, he has these off nights very frequently now. In fact it's happening so frequently that I'm starting to get worried. His shooting touch has simply become unreliable.

[mVp]

idk what's up with him but it's killing us... I'm not giving up on him yet though, I'm expecting two big games from him now... Timmy, please, get your shit together and get it done!

[2centsworth]

I'm sure we will hear Tim had some type of illness Jordan gets sick and puts up 40, the "greatest" PF of all-time gets sick and has an excuse.

[Brutalis]

Spurs shot really well from outside in the first half.

Yeah we seem to do a decent job in every first half in NO, I'm talking about the game in general.

I think the Spurs are folding to themselves. Looking for calls that yes should be calls and fouls and not just a one sided affair and forgot they had to play defense and score the damn ball. The give up and bail on the whole attack plan and go soft.

[T Park]

I agree with TPark.

My post from another thread ...

Tim was extremely disappointing to me today. Chandler got his second foul midway through the 1st quarter and went out. Tim should have feasted right then. He didn't. He put up weak shots around the rim and looked SLOOOOOOOOOOOOW. I know he got 20+ boards, blahblah. I don't care. This was his game to dominate the interior and he didn't do it.


Let me just say, I'm cutting out the rest and framing and sigging the top part :lol

[Kori Ellis]

I'm sure we will hear Tim had some type of illness Jordan gets sick and puts up 40, the "greatest" PF of all-time gets sick and has an excuse.

Duncan/Pop didn't make an excuse for game 1/2 when Duncan actually was ill. So I doubt they'll make one up now.

[T Park]

I'm sure we will hear Tim had some type of illness Jordan gets sick and puts up 40, the "greatest" PF of all-time gets sick and has an excuse.

Jordan made up the sickenesses.

Once again though, your wanting Duncan to be Jordan.

Jordan was a player that will never be here again, EVER.

Stop with that comparison, cause its just not fair to Duncan.

[dbreiden83080]

I'm sure we will hear Tim had some type of illness Jordan gets sick and puts up 40, the "greatest" PF of all-time gets sick and has an excuse.

:rolleyes

Good god that is just pathetic.

[duncan228]

Duncan/Pop didn't make an excuse for game 1/2 when Duncan actually was ill. So I doubt they'll make one up now.

Neither one of them made any excuses in their post game press conferences. They both gave credit to how NO played, and they both said the game got away from them in the 3rd, that they didn't play the way they needed to.

And they were both obviously pissed...

[2centsworth]

be sick after the seasons over. for the record, I thought Tim was ok tonight. I place the blame more on Manu and then Tony's poor 3rd quarter play.

[T Park]

be sick after the seasons over. for the record, I thought Tim was ok tonight. I place the blame more on Manu and then Tony's poor 3rd quarter play.


Tim was not ok.

Tim was pathetic.

[dbreiden83080]

Tim was not ok.

Tim was pathetic.

Again what the fuck did Manu do out there tonight??? Tony was 7/14 yet felt like he was invisible. The idea that Tim did not try his best is bullshit, complete and total bullshit.

[2centsworth]

Tim was not ok.

Tim was pathetic.
no way 23 boards is pathetic. Spurs have won before when Duncan has played poorly on offense, but mainly because Manu and Tony go off. Today Manu gets a D- and Tony gets a C-.

[dbreiden83080]

no way 23 boards is pathetic. Spurs have won before when Duncan has played poorly on offense, but mainly because Manu and Tony go off. Today Manu gets a D- and Tony gets a C-.

BINGO!!

Tim tried but he had a bad night on offense, people need to get off him like he commited a crime here. Amazing even in SA Duncan gets no love from certain Spurs fans some of you guys really fucking suck.

[T Park]

no way 23 boards is pathetic. Spurs have won before when Duncan has played poorly on offense, but mainly because Manu and Tony go off. Today Manu gets a D- and Tony gets a C-.


Didn't say that was. That was ok, but doesn't mean shit if hes playing like Hedo Turkoglu on the offensive end.

[BonnerDynasty]

Again what the fuck did Manu do out there tonight??? Tony was 7/14 yet felt like he was invisible. The idea that Tim did not try his best is bullshit, complete and total bullshit.

Settling for off balance fade-aways is BULLSHIT.

[dbreiden83080]

Why was Tony so aggressive in games 3 and 4 and tonight it was nowhere?? So it is all about Pop and Tim with 4 downs and Tony gets a pass for barely even looking to get in the paint. I thought Tony was borderline awful tonight and he has been great overall in the series.

[dbreiden83080]

Settling for off balance fade-aways is BULLSHIT.

He drove the lane and got fouled more than once, did not get the call. He missed some shots he usually makes, it happens, the man is not a fucking machine.

[2centsworth]

Didn't say that was. That was ok, but doesn't mean shit if hes playing like Hedo Turkoglu on the offensive end.

Tim has played poorly on offense before and the Spurs have still won big playoff games. No doubt we need him, but Tony and mostly Manu have got to pick it up on the road.

[Budkin]

From the front page of mysa.com:

http://www.mysanantonio.com/images/cover/0514spurs_duncan190_bms.jpg

[Blackjack]

Tim played like shit offensively,but don't give me this bullshit about his effort. Tim is not a natural scorer. Never has been,never will be. His game is predicated mostly on timing and positioning because of his lack of explosiveness/athleticism. Tim needs easy buckets early to find a rythym and build his confidence,and if he doesn't get them it can sometimes snowball on him.

The Hornets deserve some credit for how they're playing Tim. Tim hasn't been able to find a rythym because he's not sure where his shots are going to come from. They actually doubled on the dribble instead of the catch more,which is probably the best way to defend Tim. You double him on the catch,he'll usually pick you apart like Brady. You double on the dribble,and he'll sometimes look like Favre on a bad day.

Did Tim play like shit? Yes! Do I wish he'd play with less of a concious? Hell yeah! Did he not try/bring it? Fuck no!

He's been the same guy for the last 11 years for better or worse. So if you're pissed about his play? I'm right there with you. Just don't give me this weak shit that he didn't come to play.

[polandprzem]

Don't tell me that Tpark started this thread :lol

[TDfan2007]

Tim played like shit offensively,but don't give me this bullshit about his effort. Tim is not a natural scorer. Never has been,never will be. His game is predicated mostly on timing and positioning because of his lack of explosiveness/athleticism. Tim needs easy buckets early to find a rythym and build his confidence,and if he doesn't get them it can sometimes snowball on him.

The Hornets deserve some credit for how they're playing Tim. Tim hasn't been able to find a rythym because he's not sure where his shots are going to come from. They actually doubled on the dribble instead of the catch more,which is probably the best way to defend Tim. You double him on the catch,he'll usually pick you apart like Brady. You double on the dribble,and he'll sometimes look like Favre on a bad day.

Did Tim play like shit? Yes! Do I wish he'd play with less of a concious? Hell yeah! Did he not try/bring it? Fuck no!

He's been the same guy for the last 11 years for better or worse. So if you're pissed about his play? I'm right there with you. Just don't give me this weak shit that he didn't come to play.

I agree with everything except the part about him not being a natural scorer. He's the best scoring big man in the league, he just doesn't have to show it most of the time thanks to the presence of Tony and Manu.

Tim's problem is that his once amazingly soft touch just completely leaves him periodically, at least in this season. I can't remember another season in which he struggled so much with his shot except for maybe the 06 season, but then he had PF and stepped up in a big way during the playoffs. I just don't see any confidence in him whatsoever.

[Blackjack]

Tim is the most complete big man in the league,but he's not a natural scorer. Being a natural scorer is about a mentality,and less about ability. Amare for example,isn't the player Tim is but when he catches the ball there's no hesitation. There's never a thought to think, "Is this a good shot?", or "Should I be taking this shot?" That's all I was saying.

[SenorSpur]

[QUOTE=T Park;2493911]If he would attack as soon as he gets the damn ball Chandler and West wouldv'e been in foul trouble all Fing night.

No, he decided to stand, wait, stand, take fall aways, run sideways and flop.
/QUOTE]

yep. you speak the truth. if he would make a move as soon as he gets the ball i think he would fare better.

He needs to stop waiting for the double team to come. He used to do this a lot when he was younger. As he's gotten older he develop the art of making that good pass. It's almost like he reverted back to this bad habit all of a sudden.

Despite his rebounding, which was awesome, he still played like a vagina on the offensive end. Since we don't have another "rim-protector" on this team, it's up to Tim to do it all on both ends.

[roycrikside]

no way 23 boards is pathetic. Spurs have won before when Duncan has played poorly on offense, but mainly because Manu and Tony go off. Today Manu gets a D- and Tony gets a C-.

How does anyone figure Tony played better than Manu? Manu led the team in points and assists and kept the team in the game for a half. Tony played like crap and let Paul do whatever he wanted.

[SpursFan0728]

How does anyone figure Tony played better than Manu? Manu led the team in points and assists and kept the team in the game for a half. Tony played like crap and let Paul do whatever he wanted.

Agree.

Tony plays much more aggressive at home in this series.
Lets hope he can adjust and bring his A game for game 6.

There is no turning back. :flag:

[jackseven]

Tim played like shit offensively,but don't give me this bullshit about his effort. Tim is not a natural scorer. Never has been,never will be. His game is predicated mostly on timing and positioning because of his lack of explosiveness/athleticism. Tim needs easy buckets early to find a rythym and build his confidence,and if he doesn't get them it can sometimes snowball on him.

The Hornets deserve some credit for how they're playing Tim. Tim hasn't been able to find a rythym because he's not sure where his shots are going to come from. They actually doubled on the dribble instead of the catch more,which is probably the best way to defend Tim. You double him on the catch,he'll usually pick you apart like Brady. You double on the dribble,and he'll sometimes look like Favre on a bad day.

Did Tim play like shit? Yes! Do I wish he'd play with less of a concious? Hell yeah! Did he not try/bring it? Fuck no!

He's been the same guy for the last 11 years for better or worse. So if you're pissed about his play? I'm right there with you. Just don't give me this weak shit that he didn't come to play.

Someone needs to edit wikipedia.

There's a new definition of wrong.

[Josepatches]

How about 23 reb?He was really good at defend.If he didn't take that number of rebounds I'm pretty sure we had lost by more than 30.
And most important.
Why Tim has to take shots? Because his teammates were hidden when he need him.So he is the leader and he has to take his role
Anyway he only take 18 shots.Four more than TP and 3 more than Manu.How about FT?It's amazing he only could take one in the game.
Obviously refs were very important in the game because IMO it's not real Hornets only make one shooting foul in 18 TD's shots.Of course he's not as important as Kobe to the NBA.
I'm pretty sure nobody tell TP to didn't shoot yesterday.He only was afraid to take that role so TD has to do it as always or TP was not able to find the way to the hoop.Sometimes TD could play worse but he is always here and he never is hidden like others.


With TP -20 for the Spurs
With TD only -14


I'm tired of people who only see the FG%.TP is the POINT GUARD of the team.Do you know what is this? So if his team play really bad he is at least as guilty as everyone.

[ballhog]

In Tim's defense, he was getting hacked alot. Did he shoot even one free throw during the game? I can't remember the Spurs at the line at all during the game. Tough to win when they can push on your hip every time you shoot and get away with it.

[duncan228]

Did he shoot even one free throw during the game? I can't remember the Spurs at the line at all during the game.

Duncan was 0-1 at the line.
The Spurs were 12-18.

[florige]

Overconfidence= getting blocked by David Fucking West?

OK.

I just think Duncan for some reason thinks hes hakeem in that he can bag jumpers all night.

If he would attack as soon as he gets the damn ball Chandler and West wouldv'e been in foul trouble all Fing night.

No, he decided to stand, wait, stand, take fall aways, run sideways and flop.

Man up Duncan and take the ball right the F at them...






He has gotten into a bad habit of waiting for the refs to bail him out, instead of driving the ball down their F'ing throat, he settles for these gay ass hooks and flails at the basket instead of dunking that crap. That is what pisses me off watching him play. There is no way that freakin David West should be giving us this much trouble. Chris Paul yeah, David West no!!!

[SAGambler]

Overconfidence= getting blocked by David Fucking West?

OK.

I just think Duncan for some reason thinks hes hakeem in that he can bag jumpers all night.

If he would attack as soon as he gets the damn ball Chandler and West wouldv'e been in foul trouble all Fing night.

No, he decided to stand, wait, stand, take fall aways, run sideways and flop.

Man up Duncan and take the ball right the F at them...

Just in case you haven't been paying attention this season, he has done this over and over and over again. I can't even recall how many times I've heard Sean Elliott criticize him for it. It's become a habit. He needs 21 days to break it.

But of course everyone just laid it off to the "It's only a RS game" bullshit. Problem is, if you get a bad habit in RS, it carries over to the POs.

[TDMVPDPOY]

tim duncan has become a spectator :(

[ecksodia]

Manu got to the line a few times, which was during the time I'd hoped they were going to turn it around

[nkdlunch]

does this mean tpark is off the wagon???

I hope so. this is always good for Spurs

[ecksodia]

Is he still hungry? I mean, this one's to pass Shaq.. I hope he's still hungry enough to want to win games 6 and 7. :/

[SpurYank]

That is our Timmy. I accepted this whiny behavior if his a long time ago. He is a creature of habit. He truly believes he has been fouled and the refs have an obligation to call them the way HE sees them. That IS Our Timmy.

Along with his whiny behavior, however, comes the realistic fact that he has to be one of the best power forwards to ever play the game.

And the four NBA titles also help me accept whatever way he wants to play.

[urunobili]

pathetic effort by Tim

[duncan228]

Is he still hungry? I mean, this one's to pass Shaq.. I hope he's still hungry enough to want to win games 6 and 7. :/

He's still hungry. Tear him apart for how he played last night but never doubt his heart. He wants the repeat. He always wants a Title. No one will be harder on him for his game last night than he will be on himself.

[ecksodia]

Isn't how he played last night kinda an indication?

But, you're right. Sometimes I doubt it.. but deep down you know. You just know you're wrong when you're doubting his heart. :)

[SpurOutofTownFan]

He has gotten into a bad habit of waiting for the refs to bail him out, instead of driving the ball down their F'ing throat, he settles for these gay ass hooks and flails at the basket instead of dunking that crap. That is what pisses me off watching him play. There is no way that freakin David West should be giving us this much trouble. Chris Paul yeah, David West no!!!

I thought the same about Tim - he needs to go hard on those dudes and stop flying to the rim. Also Tony needs to be as aggresive he can be at home and on the road (only road game he did this was game 3 vs suns). Those 2 things open up a lot of play for the rest of the team. Manu is setting himself up for too many 3s - he needs to drive to the rim to be the manu-man he needs to be.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

Tim is not a natural scorer. Never has been,never will be. His game is predicated mostly on timing and positioning because of his lack of explosiveness/athleticism. Tim needs easy buckets early to find a rythym and build his confidence,and if he doesn't get them it can sometimes snowball on him.


God damnit please delete this idiotic post it is depressing how quickly spurs fans become retards once we start losing. Everyone in this thread is now dumber from having read this.

[Agloco]

I don't know what the F your deal is in New Orleans, but dude.....

Your shooting and pussified look at teh refs to bail you out BS tonight KILLED this team.

This loss is on you and Pop for thinking you'd eventually man up tonight.

Very very dissapointed in you Duncan.


How the fuck is this on Pop for relying on "the franchise"?

This is a simple matter of not wanting it as bad as the other guy.

The Hornets are younger and hungrier than us right now.

Unfortunately I don't see the Spurs winning game 7 unless the Hornets suddenly decide to have an off game there. They are playing as well as any team can play at home right now.

[Extra Stout]

If the Spurs go down, as appears likely, the blame rests squarely on the shoulders of Tim Duncan. Tim has looked like an aging has-been for most of the series. David West has been the better power forward by a wide margin. It's no surprise that the Spurs would lose a series in which Duncan is totally dominated like this.

Comparison:
West: 22.2 ppg, 48.4 fg%, 80.8 ft%, 10.0 rpg
Duncan: 14.2 ppg, 43.8 fg%, 57.7 ft%, 12.4 rpg

[TRIN1021]

Why isn't Parker driving in? Parker needs to be the MVP he was last year and drive in. BUT THE WHOLE team needs to play like that want it....I don't think it was one player or the other but the WHOLE team..... I LOVE MY SPURS AND WATCH ALL THE GAMES...but it was really sad to see them give up like this... We played our hearts out in GM 3 & 4 but what is going on in the Hornets atmosphere that we choke.... We need to get passed HOME COURT ADVANTAGE and play like CHAMPS!!!!!

You know what.. I am not going to complain about what we did or didn't do.... Watch this is going to be a game 7..... It is all about the ratings... Come on... Haven't you guys figured it out yet?????? Why does it take the 3rd quarter for either team to determine the win......

HELLO????? MORE MONEY for the NBA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And yeah I am not too thrilled that CRAWFORD is refin' the games against US either.................


Come SPURS BRING IT!!!!!!! MAKE THEM PLAY OUR GAME AND WIPE OUT THE HORNET'S GAME.............

[J_Paco]

Timmy's always relied on those weird angled off-balance shots in the post, only difference is he's not getting the "Superstar treatment" from the refrees any longer. He's relied on that stuff so much, and getting the calls, that maybe he thinks it really is a foul every time. People are going to continue to manhandle him, especially if he gets frustrated and loses his cool, so he needs to rely on other post moves.

Also, Timmy hasn't consistently finished strong at the rim since the '06 semi-finals against Dallas. When was the last time he finished at the rim with a two-handed power flush?

[dbreiden83080]

He's still hungry. Tear him apart for how he played last night but never doubt his heart. He wants the repeat. He always wants a Title. No one will be harder on him for his game last night than he will be on himself.

They don't care we lose so it is all about "Lets kill Tim Duncan", Manu and Tony i see are getting a pass for borerline terrible games.

[T Park]

They don't care we lose so it is all about "Lets kill Tim Duncan", Manu and Tony i see are getting a pass for borerline terrible games.


Your totally totally missing everything.

Everyone feeds and works off Duncan.

Duncan sets the pace and the tone.

If Duncan is aggressive and giving a shit, then everyone else does.

Period.

Stop being blind to Duncan's horrid play last night

[dbreiden83080]

Your totally totally missing everything.

Everyone feeds and works off Duncan.

Duncan sets the pace and the tone.

If Duncan is aggressive and giving a shit, then everyone else does.

Period.

Stop being blind to Duncan's horrid play last night

I'm not missing anything your posts are not very hard to figure out. Duncan did not play bad last night because he didn't fucking care. He did not drive the lane every time he touched the ball in game 4. He shot his bank shot, a couple of hook shots, and he drove the lane some in the 2nd half. He makes all those shots and he is the man but he misses some of those same shots in game 5 and he is a pussy who doesn't care, that is bullshit. Duncan was not so incredibly aggressive in game 4, compared to game 5. He missed a lot of shots he can and usually does make. Everyone on this board is a Manu homer then a Tony Homer and Tim comes in a distant third. When he is great he gets some credit, when he has a tough one, he is ripped to shreds and his character is called into question. It is fucking disgusting.

[smeagol]

was manu?
M. Ginobili G 37:30 5-15
was manu watching james?



he was better then some spur players
blaming tp for this loss is wrong

ducks hating on Manu while sucking Tony's dick.

Some things never change around here . . . :depressed

[smeagol]

Everyone on this board is a Manu homer then a Tony Homer and Tim comes in a distant third.

Nobody gives props to TD when he has a great game . . . :rolleyes



When he is great he gets some credit, when he has a tough one, he is ripped to shreds and his character is called into question. It is fucking disgusting.

STFU all ready. When Manu or Tony suck, they are torn appart just like the next guy.

[dbreiden83080]

Nobody gives props to TD when he has a great game . . . :rolleyes

I said in another thread they do give him credit but not as much as they do Manu and TD is always to blame when they lose.



"STFU all ready. When Manu or Tony suck, they are torn appart just like the next guy"

That is a complete crock of shit right there.

[Supreme_Being]

I can't complain to a guy who's vital on our four LOB trophies. Let him do whatever the fuck he wants.

[nfg3]

TD sucked offensively last night. Kori et all are right -when Chandler went out with his 2nd foul TD should have gone nuts but he didn't. He did look slow and indecisive. Once the double team came at him went he put the ball on the floor and he hesistated then we were in trouble. This team needs for TD to be the main focus.

I expect for him to come out in game 6 and to be much more aggressive. Everyone will feed off that and we'll probably get the win.

If we take care of business at home then the big question is - How can we win in NO when we continually blow the 3rd Q all the time? The first five minutes of each 3rd Q has been the difference in all 3 games for the Hornets. We've lead in all 3 games in NO at halftime only to get smacked in the 3rd Q. Pathetic pattern.