Spurs; Players-Fans. Too much pride, to see the bullspit

[Brutalis]

The only thing I will attest to is the Spurs came into the game on a high that ended abruptly. They came in cocky and proud and they got beat. Their attitude and game prep was garbage.

Normally, down 2-3 I would be pissed off. Normally after an ass whipping I am pissed off and complacent with what is going on in their heads to be this good and play that bad. Because they did, they played like shit.

But I have read through threads the day after, read through what some trolls and regs have to say about the game and I was shocked.

A lot of you wouldn't post this because you have no balls, worry about what people think about you, or frankly are stupid enough to believe referee's do not change the outcome of the game.

Well you would be right, the outcome of this game was going to be ugly for the Spurs regardless. Hornets played like they were about to send us fishing and the Spurs once again just coasted along and didn't catch any fire.

Crawford hates Tim, Pop, and the Spurs. He hates us. Flat out dislike of our players and franchise. That is clear. As a fan of the Spurs you need to realize and accept that.
Crawford instigates fights and problems with the Spurs. Obviously I don't need to comment if you are a fan you know this.
The games officiating was cheap, unfair, and completely lopsided. San Antonio didn't have a chance to come back at any point in the 2nd half even if we did happen to actually hit shots for a change.

It became clear early on when Oberto was called for a double tech along with Ely when Oberto was the one just pushed to the ground. How much crap is that seriously? I could not believe it. That's stuff that is just in your face wrong, how can you make a call like that?

Chris Paul got in the lane and light contact yet still gets these calls? Parker has more contact at the rim, gets laid out how many times? And only gets the foul when he forcefully takes it to the rack on purpose when he was upset.

I am sick and tired of Chandler's moving little push screens. Almost every fucking one he pushes Parker or the defender before he rolls away. It is so obvious why can't it be called?

Parker drew a perfect charge in the 3rd I believe... nope... blocking foul on Parker.

If you saw all of this you think you would be smart enough to realize fuck whatever pride you think you have as a fan and just admit to what your eyes see.

Spurs didn't show up to play. Again. It's not 3rd quarter curses or anything special, Hornets just come out to play and we come out to settle on jumpers and turnovers. But it's really fucking sick, disgraceful and sad when not only are you getting owned on the court, the officials are owning you just as bad. But in a loss like this I understand nobody wants to talk about that though. Nobody wants to talk about the flat out truth.

Hornets were allowed to play rough, hard and aggressive. And the Spurs were not. If we had made this a game, we would have lost anyways folks. Crawford was not going to allow it. And if you are so upset over getting beat by 20, then realize and be happy it wasn't by 2 and over a bad call, because then, everyone here would have some fucking balls for a change to admit the shame of what the NBA calls officiating. And it would have hurt 20x worse losing a close game like that rather than being blown out.

So please, do not waste your time replying with your typical "Blame it on the refs" or "Making excuses" or "Morale victory alert" bullshit. Frankly my point is clear, we weren't in the game regardless so that's pretty void.

And I don't need to see you lame bitch comments about "Spurs always get the calls and when they don't they bitch" because, we in the last decade have had the best defenses around. We earn respect, and with good defense comes its benefit of the doubt on calls on the court. That's how the game is, momentum.

I wanna see how many of you "fans", new here and some vets can admit to the bullshit just once.

You really think when Duncan was thrown out for laughing that was the last time we got screwed?
You really think Crawford did not have it in for us and that could have been a set up game?

Crawford even reffing Spurs game is bullshit and that should not even be allowed. I am so sick and tired of this forum and a lot of you people in general.

Spurs need a reality check. Go home kiss your wife, your baby, your whatever you hold close to your heart. And try not to let them realize you guys are playing like the biggest underachievers to ever play in this league to go out and lose like you are doing. Get it in your fucking head you are not special, everybody hates you and has for a while now, and you have to kill to win. The killer mentality. Heard of it? Because if you can live with losing to this Hornets team like you are, and get sent home from these playoffs then fine. Thanks for the rings, they were great times. But the day you realize this team is better then 2-3 and losing by 20 three times in one series, will be the day Crawford dies being thrown through his windshield on the way to the game in a horrible freak accident.

I believe. Always have and always will. But if we go out like this I hope the franchise realizes this would be the new biggest let down. They year the champion veteran Spurs got whipped by a bunch of kids, with no bench, and a team that cries more than we do for a change.

Right. Screw my pride. I admit the truth and bite down no matter the taste. Wish some of you would do the same for once.

[xtremesteven33]

dude if u want to vent about something that actually matters post it. not this crap

[Brutalis]

dude if u want to vent about something that actually matters post it. not this crap
Sorry, I thought calling out the Spurs players mattered.

[Darcus]

You aren't calling out the Spurs players. You're using that as an excuse to act like the refs are discriminating against the Spurs. There was nothing wrong with the officiating last night. You're in denial about your team, so you have to blame it on the refs.

[Brutalis]

You aren't calling out the Spurs players. You're using that as an excuse to act like the refs are discriminating against the Spurs. There was nothing wrong with the officiating last night. You're in denial about your team, so you have to blame it on the refs.

Fool. So easy it is to give typical rebuttals from your side of this. I called them out, try reading. (lmao wow)

They were last night discriminating against the Spurs. And there was everything wrong. Crawford has an agenda and it's obvious. This is why Pop is going to the league office. He just mentioned the politically correct reason why, but he is going to splurge everything not.

I have no denial. Once again if you read, I said we got beat, we didn't show up, we didn't do a fucking thing but suck. And I'm glad it was not a close game because to lose over bullshit in a close game would have this forum, going nuts and half of us jumping by now.

[koriwhat]

BLAH BLAH BLAH...lets just break some legs!

[beachwood]

I do agree that Crawford reffing a Spurs playoff game this early after being reinstated is sketchy. No way that should happen. He freakin threw Duncan out of a game for laughing... on the bench. And now he's reffing Duncan in a playoff game?

[Nolazach]

I saw quite a few calls go against us. A lot of fans in yellow were calling for Crawford's head in the first half. Why? We were losing. As soon as we took the lead the calls didn't matter as much. Blame the refs all you want, but bad officiating didn't cost you twenty points.

I mean I could go back (looking at your avatar) and say that refs caused LSU to lose the game against Arkansas last year, that was some of the worst officiating ever. But all in all we lost to you then won the championship, so t5he refs didn't matter as much.

Now with your season in the brink of collapse you need a scapegoat. Teams lose games, not fans and not the refs, maybe if you lost by just a few points.

Also if Tony Parker grabs his head one more time in a game I am going to puke, he falls on his but and grabs his head. Always something with his head.

Really you wrote a long ass post just to say the "refs cost us the game". Its better to be more direct.

[Brutalis]

On a side note I will admit my aggression and anger on this matter. (as if it's not obvious)

I am furious. At the weak Spurs play. And at our balls as fans.
I am not going anywhere, and I careless what people think of me personally. I will be here in another 3 years as well.

I played ball this morning at the gym with a couple Hornets fans. I had my TD USA jersey on. We discussed the game, I admitted how we just play flat and sucked. They admitted Crawford or in his words "the little bald ref" has something against ya'll. And when I told him about Duncan last year being thrown out for laughing he didn't even know anything about that.

So it's clear. And I'm not going to sit quietly and not say something when there is a place to.

Stop playing like a pussy to the Spurs. And to the fans accept last night was a miserable to watch and the calls were the same, getting whipped or not.

[Brutalis]

I saw quite a few calls go against us. A lot of fans in yellow were calling for Crawford's head in the first half. Why? We were losing. As soon as we took the lead the calls didn't matter as much. Blame the refs all you want, but bad officiating didn't cost you twenty points.

I'm not reading the rest of your post you fucking retard. Try reading the topic, its point. I said in the post, the reffing is not why we lost. We sucked! I know this! So the calls were bullshit regardless. What difference does that make to a Hornets fan?

stupid stupid stupid fucking stupid READ

[Nolazach]

I'm not reading the rest of your post you fucking retard. Try reading the topic, its point. I said in the post, the reffing is not why we lost. We sucked! I know this! So the calls were bullshit regardless. What difference does that make to a Hornets fan?

stupid stupid stupid fucking stupid READ

I read your post, however long winded, you basically blame the refs.
You don't have to say you read mine but you did.

[slayermin]

Here is a list of games that Joey Crawfod has worked in the playoffs since '01 involving San Antonio. Our record with him is 11-4. Either he fell out of love with us after '05 or things are just evening out a bit.


Year Opp W L PF PA FTA O FTA Ref 1
2001 MIN W 86 69 17 21 Joe Crawford
2001 LAL L 90 104 21 23 Joe Crawford
2003 PHO W 84 76 25 18 Joe Crawford
2003 LAL W 110 82 13 23 Joe Crawford
2003 DAL W 119 106 45 22 Joe Crawford
2003 NJ W 101 89 28 25 Joe Crawford
2003 NJ W 93 83 29 34 Joe Crawford
2005 SEA W 108 91 35 24 Joe Crawford
2005 PHO W 121 114 31 29 Joe Crawford
2005 DET L 79 96 20 17 Joe Crawford
2005 DET W 81 74 19 14 Joe Crawford
2006 DAL L 103 104 32 50 Joe Crawford
2006 SAC W 109 98 27 25 Joe Crawford
2008 PHO W 92 87 30 37 Joe Crawford
2008 NO L 79 101 18 33 Joe Crawford

[degenerate_gambler]

stupid stupid stupid fucking stupid THREAD



there ya go..

[Brutalis]

I read your post, however long winded, you basically blame the refs.
You don't have to say you read mine but you did.

Then if you read the post, you have no excuse for being retarded in your reply. San Antonio played like shit, and to top it off, the calls all game were shit. So I am blaming the refs?

Seriously, go climb a tree during the next thunderstorm. Ignorant fella.

*and no I did not read the rest of your post kid. Damn. If I did I would not have said I didn't? The fuck is wrong with you?

[Brutalis]

there ya go..

Then piss off dude.

[Brutalis]

Here is a list of games that Joey Crawfod has worked in the playoffs since '01 involving San Antonio. Our record with him is 11-4. Either he fell out of love with us after '05 or things are just evening out a bit.


Year Opp W L PF PA FTA O FTA Ref 1
2001 MIN W 86 69 17 21 Joe Crawford
2001 LAL L 90 104 21 23 Joe Crawford
2003 PHO W 84 76 25 18 Joe Crawford
2003 LAL W 110 82 13 23 Joe Crawford
2003 DAL W 119 106 45 22 Joe Crawford
2003 NJ W 101 89 28 25 Joe Crawford
2003 NJ W 93 83 29 34 Joe Crawford
2005 SEA W 108 91 35 24 Joe Crawford
2005 PHO W 121 114 31 29 Joe Crawford
2005 DET L 79 96 20 17 Joe Crawford
2005 DET W 81 74 19 14 Joe Crawford
2006 DAL L 103 104 32 50 Joe Crawford
2006 SAC W 109 98 27 25 Joe Crawford
2008 PHO W 92 87 30 37 Joe Crawford
2008 NO L 79 101 18 33 Joe Crawford

That is so odd man. What the hell happened there? He literally must have got tired of us or something? Wowwww

[jag]

That is so odd man. What the hell happened there? He literally must have got tired of us or something? Wowwww

We're at 50%....where's the conspiracy? (since our first loss of 2005)

[Nolazach]

Then if you read the post, you have no excuse for being retarded in your reply. San Antonio played like shit, and to top it off, the calls all game were shit. So I am blaming the refs?

Seriously, go climb a tree during the next thunderstorm. Ignorant fella.

*and no I did not read the rest of your post kid. Damn. If I did I would not have said I didn't? The fuck is wrong with you?

I don't have to waste time with you, your fellow fans seem to agree with you.:lmao

I wanted to say that Arkansas had a lot of calls go there way last year, but you don't hear about it because we went on to win it all, only loser complain about the refs costing them the game.

thats it......retard.

[Cry Havoc]

Here is a list of games that Joey Crawfod has worked in the playoffs since '01 involving San Antonio. Our record with him is 11-4. Either he fell out of love with us after '05 or things are just evening out a bit.


Year Opp W L PF PA FTA O FTA Ref 1
2001 MIN W 86 69 17 21 Joe Crawford
2001 LAL L 90 104 21 23 Joe Crawford
2003 PHO W 84 76 25 18 Joe Crawford
2003 LAL W 110 82 13 23 Joe Crawford
2003 DAL W 119 106 45 22 Joe Crawford
2003 NJ W 101 89 28 25 Joe Crawford
2003 NJ W 93 83 29 34 Joe Crawford
2005 SEA W 108 91 35 24 Joe Crawford
2005 PHO W 121 114 31 29 Joe Crawford
2005 DET L 79 96 20 17 Joe Crawford
2005 DET W 81 74 19 14 Joe Crawford
2006 DAL L 103 104 32 50 Joe Crawford
2006 SAC W 109 98 27 25 Joe Crawford
2008 PHO W 92 87 30 37 Joe Crawford
2008 NO L 79 101 18 33 Joe Crawford

I suppose it would be "whining" if I pointed out that in the last 4 playoff games with Crawford as the ref, we have shot 35 fewer free throws than our opponents have. And that's with one game being relatively equal.

[HornetGumboBalls]

Hornets were allowed to play rough, hard and aggressive. And the Spurs were not.

Sounds a lot like game 4 except teams were flip flopped

[Cry Havoc]

Sounds a lot like game 4 except teams were flip flopped

+1

Ticky tacks on the visitors to please the home crowd, "contact is just good defense" for the team in white.

[koriwhat]

your fellow fans seem to agree with you.:lmao


i don't... i don't think it was the refs bailing the whorenets out at all. i think it was the spurs bailing the whorenets out. why? who the fuck knows why cause i surely don't. sure crawford is a cocky little bastard with a chip on his shoulders when he is officiating the spurs but he didn't bring the spurs down to a double digit loss. we gotta make shots, we gotta play hard, we gotta make stops, and we gotta get the job done or else we're fucked! that's it.

stop whining, stop bitching, stop the bs already all you "fans". get your heads out of your asses and just root your spurs on!

:flag: :flag: :flag: :flag: :lobt2:

[slayermin]

If you want to bitch about a ref, Eddie F. Rush is a good place to start. Our record since '01 in the playoffs when he works is 7-13. Think about that for a second.

And even though we won 3 out of 4 last year with him, if you recall, TD was very upset about the non-calls he was getting in the Denver game.


Year Opp W L PF PA FTA O FTA REF
2001 DAL L 108 112 41 19 Eddie F. Rush
2001 LAL L 82 111 25 28 Eddie F. Rush
2002 LAL L 89 99 27 21 Eddie F. Rush
2003 PHO L 95 96 41 25 Eddie F. Rush
2003 LAL W 87 82 35 12 Eddie F. Rush
2003 DAL L 91 103 23 38 Eddie F. Rush
2003 NJ L 76 77 29 24 Eddie F. Rush
2004 MEM W 87 70 24 24 Eddie F. Rush
2004 LAL L 76 88 26 41 Eddie F. Rush
2005 DEN L 87 93 19 30 Eddie F. Rush
2005 PHO W 101 95 16 17 Eddie F. Rush
2005 DET L 71 102 24 23 Eddie F. Rush
2005 DET W 81 74 19 14 Eddie F. Rush
2006 DAL L 91 113 37 43 Eddie F. Rush
2006 SAC L 84 102 27 27 Eddie F. Rush
2007 DEN W 96 91 14 30 Eddie F. Rush
2007 PHX W 108 101 36 27 Eddie F. Rush
2007 UTA L 83 109 25 32 Eddie F. Rush
2007 CLE W 83 82 34 16 Eddie F. Rush
2008 NOH L 82 101 21 15 Eddie F. Rush

[Flex9050]

You aren't calling out the Spurs players. You're using that as an excuse to act like the refs are discriminating against the Spurs. There was nothing wrong with the officiating last night. You're in denial about your team, so you have to blame it on the refs.

Did you actually WATCH the game last night? And he is right, Crawford should not be allowed within ten miles of a Spurs game (much less a playoff game). They beat Tony up so badly, he stopped driving the lane. Can you blame him? It seems like hurting out point guard on every drive is the only way to stop him, huh? But the NBA got what it wanted... the cinderella team on it's way to the finals. Makes for good TV doesn't it? (read revenue) I'm also sick of the press talking about Chris Paul.They have their tongue so far up his ass they could tell you what he had for lunch yesterday. He's good, but not the second comming of the Almighty.http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=neel/080508&sportCat=nba Again, he's good. But a miracle? Please. I realize the league needs heros but that's laughable. Laughable. As in "HA HA".

Games 6 and 7 will be interesting to say the least but expect another exercise in frustration from the officiating crew.

[timmydidit]

i agree. the officiating for game 5 was HORRIBLE... but it doesnt even matter we lost by 20 and we played like a highschool bench

[DarrinS]

Other than the BS with Oberto getting thrown down (double technical + double personal), and Tony getting wacked a few times, I didn't have too many issues with the calls.

Chandler did get called for a foul when he tried to stick his knee up Tony's ass (you know that felt good).

No offense to the OP, but this sounds like what you'd read on a Suns forum (if such a thing still exists).

[Nbadan]

...blaming the refs is lame......missed free throws are momentum changers and letting the Hornets rebound a free throw is inexcusable...the Hornets just wanted game 5 more than the Spurs.

[Ginofan]

Damn, how many times does it have to be said....He's not blaming the refs for the loss, he's just saying they were horrible (in a nutshell).

I agree that the officiating was sucky, yeah we should have made our shots and overcome the challenges that were put before us but we didn't. We sucked, but the very questionable calls Joey made aren't acceptable.

[Darcus]

Fool. So easy it is to give typical rebuttals from your side of this. I called them out, try reading. (lmao wow)

They were last night discriminating against the Spurs. And there was everything wrong. Crawford has an agenda and it's obvious. This is why Pop is going to the league office. He just mentioned the politically correct reason why, but he is going to splurge everything not.

I have no denial. Once again if you read, I said we got beat, we didn't show up, we didn't do a fucking thing but suck. And I'm glad it was not a close game because to lose over bullshit in a close game would have this forum, going nuts and half of us jumping by now.

I did read your post. Your post pretty much stated that you are calling out the Spurs for not using their magical superpowers when faced with biased referees, as though if the Spurs were being discriminated against by the refs they could use magical superpowers to still win the game.

Well, we all know that as great as the Spurs are, they, like all basketball players, are mortal. They don't have magical superpowers. So really, you're just whining more about the refs than anything, but just using the Spurs apparent lack of superpowers as an excuse to whine about the officiating.

[Brutalis]

I don't have to waste time with you, your fellow fans seem to agree with you.:lmao

I wanted to say that Arkansas had a lot of calls go there way last year, but you don't hear about it because we went on to win it all, only loser complain about the refs costing them the game.

thats it......retard.

You're kidding right?

The famous LSU Tigers accusing someone of getting the benefit of a call from a ref?

[b[The LSU Tigers fan complains?[/b]

oh god what has this world come to

[Brutalis]

Sounds a lot like game 4 except teams were flip flopped

I agree for the most part. Both games the away team came in soft and relaxed like it was just going to automatically 'happen' for them. We got home court calls, but NO got to murder last night on the back of Crawfish.

[Brutalis]

i agree. the officiating for game 5 was HORRIBLE... but it doesnt even matter we lost by 20 and we played like a highschool bench

Exactly.

[Brutalis]

I did read your post. Your post pretty much stated that you are calling out the Spurs for not using their magical superpowers when faced with biased referees, as though if the Spurs were being discriminated against by the refs they could use magical superpowers to still win the game.

Well, we all know that as great as the Spurs are, they, like all basketball players, are mortal. They don't have magical superpowers. So really, you're just whining more about the refs than anything, but just using the Spurs apparent lack of superpowers as an excuse to whine about the officiating.
How many times are you going to say the same thing in different words? Nobody is whining about how shitty the Spurs played. I made the point of calling them out for failing to step up, and the officiating in the game not series.

You go on though, keep on talking about super powers and wild shit.

[whottt]

I've talked about the backstory between Joey Crawford and the Spurs with a few people, some really knowledgable about the game and some that are just casual fans...


To a person, none of them can understand why Joey Crawford was given the assignment of reffing such an important game given his past with the Spurs.


I don't care if Crawford just reffed the best game in history last night, he shouldn't have been reffing that game.

He has shown a personal bias against Tim Duncan that borders on mentally defective, and if he didn't have a personal bias before, he has every reason in the world to have one after his career was nearly ended over a conflict with Duncan...


And this is the guy that is chosen to ref a pivotal playoff swing game?


That's incompetence on the part of the NBA...complete and total incompetence and irresponsibility...unless of course, the NBA knew exactly what it was doing in giving that game to Crawford.

[Brutalis]

Damn, how many times does it have to be said....He's not blaming the refs for the loss, he's just saying they were horrible (in a nutshell).

I agree that the officiating was sucky, yeah we should have made our shots and overcome the challenges that were put before us but we didn't. We sucked, but the very questionable calls Joey made aren't acceptable.

How many games do we start out in NO missing easy shots? Duncan just starts on a bad path missing signature stuff he has made for 11 years.

I said in an older topic in this series the Spurs are not getting beat because they are old or anything, they are seriously killing themselves not taking advantage of that, and rebounding, and 7389473 other things they usually do. They are in self destruct mode in NO as if on vacation.

Aren't these dudes tired of all the restaurants in NO by now? Geez wake the hell up Spurs and just PLAY HARD. Crawford had an agenda so we decide to just fucking quit and not try?

We looked like in the third we decided to just play. Pop didn't call a timeout a few times he could have there, like a pickup game they just.. played it out and got burned.

[whottt]

David's Stern's next brilliant idea is to appoint pedophiles to watch kids in daycare....


There is no way Crawford should have been reffing that game, and something about the fact that he was stinks.


I encourage any of you to talk to someone you know...tell them that a ref that ejected Duncan for doing nothing more than laughing about a bad call with another player on the bench...and that ref was then suspended for the last third of the season because of his ejection of Duncan...yet that same ref then wound up reffing pivotal playoff games involving Duncan...


Watch their expression...there was something really wrong with Crawford being the guy that reffed that game.



I understand giving the refs the benefit of the doubt in terms of professionalism and not allowing a personal bias to infuence their officiating...


But Joey Crawford has already been found to have a personal bias against Duncan that he has little or no control over, he's already shown he he can't control it and it does influence his decision making...this is fact, this is not fiction, he was suspended by the NBA for 29 games for his actions...


There's no doubt this guy has a bias against Duncan and has struggled to control it...he should not be allowed to ref any playoff games involving the Spurs for the forseeable future.



Joey Crawford doesn't get the benefit of the doubt...he lost that right when he ejected Duncan for doing nothing more than interacting with a teamate on his own bench.

[Brutalis]

I've talked about the backstory between Joey Crawford and the Spurs with a few people, some really knowledgable about the game and some that are just casual fans...


To a person, none of them can understand why Joey Crawford was given the assignment of reffing such an important game given his past with the Spurs.


I don't care if Crawford just reffed the best game in history last night, he shouldn't have been reffing that game.

He has shown a personal bias against Tim Duncan that borders on mentally defective, and if he didn't have a personal bias before, he has every reason in the world to have one after his career was nearly ended over a conflict with Duncan...


And this is the guy that is chosen to ref a pivotal playoff swing game?


That's incompetence on the part of the NBA...complete and total incompetence and irresponsibility...unless of course, the NBA knew exactly what it was doing in giving that game to Crawford.

I will never get into a conspiracy discussion because a lot of teams have their own stuff too. But by god if you are not dumb as hell if anyone don't think something has gone on between the lines in Game 5 alone.

How about that game with Garnett pushing the ref, nothing happened? And you really think the Jazz have a chance against the Lakers now?

NBA is a joke.

[Darcus]

Nobody is whining about how shitty the Spurs played.

Okay, so you're not whining about the Spurs playing badly.


I made the point of calling them out for failing to step up

...wait, you're not whining about the Spurs playing badly?

[Brutalis]

I heard someone say "the Celtics trade was a setup, the Lakers trade was too, but was delayed till before the deadline for publicity reasons"

some people live on this stuff. i know people that will lecture you all day on how and why the nba is a fix, this and that. how sometimes they cannot control outcomes so they count it as balancing the cause. its stupid i have no reason to explain more either.

[whottt]

And the NBA deserves all the unfounded speculation they get, for being stupid enough to allow it to happen...I hope they never hear the end of it.

[boutons_]

The Spurs' pride and self-respect for themselves were absent last night. There's something really different with this team, season and playoffs.

It must be Tim (who else? Pop?), he can't be bothered in too many games. Very un $professional, very un-leader-like.

10 pts through 3qtrs? fuck 'im.

I detached emotionally from the Spurs after 04 playoffs, which crushe me. :)

But I got too expectant that the game3,4 Spurs 'mo would carry to Ws in games5,6.

Don't worry, I'm OK now! :lol

[Brutalis]

Okay, so you're not whining about the Spurs playing badly.

This is just for you.

I am at a Spurs forum. My team's forum. Since I was a little kid I followed this team, and all that sappy stuff. Here, I have been for a few years, and I feel as though I am with my congregation of people like me with similar interests. So if I vent, or show my displeasure in my team's play- please do me a favor and understand who you are, what you represent and where you are is here, at a Spurs forum. My Spurs forum. So get the fuck over it. You are one among a handful against a crowd so please do suck my cock if me bitching about my team doesn't shake well with you after a bad game.

Secondly, me saying "Nobody is whining" means shut the fuck up saying over and over I make excuses for this that and bleh blah crap. I am not crying about how bad we played, I am all out bitching because it's stupid knowing we can play better. And I can say that with truth, titles and shit add some emphasis to your point every now and then. You like? If you feel like whining when the Hornets lose tomorrow night, my PM's stay cleaned out for you to bomb away sweetheart. Or you can goto your own damn Hornets forum bub.

[GrandeDavid]

I've talked about the backstory between Joey Crawford and the Spurs with a few people, some really knowledgable about the game and some that are just casual fans...


To a person, none of them can understand why Joey Crawford was given the assignment of reffing such an important game given his past with the Spurs.


I don't care if Crawford just reffed the best game in history last night, he shouldn't have been reffing that game.

He has shown a personal bias against Tim Duncan that borders on mentally defective, and if he didn't have a personal bias before, he has every reason in the world to have one after his career was nearly ended over a conflict with Duncan...


And this is the guy that is chosen to ref a pivotal playoff swing game?


That's incompetence on the part of the NBA...complete and total incompetence and irresponsibility...unless of course, the NBA knew exactly what it was doing in giving that game to Crawford.

:clap

Needless to say, I completely agree with you.

[Brutalis]

The Spurs' pride and self-respect for themselves were absent last night. There's something really different with this team, season and playoffs.

It must be Tim (who else? Pop?), he can't be bothered in too many games. Very un $professional, very un-leader-like.

10 pts through 3qtrs? fuck 'im.

I detached emotionally from the Spurs after 04 playoffs, which crushe me. :)

But I got too expectant that the game3,4 Spurs 'mo would carry to Ws in games5,6.

Don't worry, I'm OK now! :lol

I am not looking at last night as a huge deal anymore. It happened. Pop did not react well to Crawdead getting in his face and poking him much less the calls all night. He used 4down too much and tried to some how, force the Spurs to just suddenly turn it on. It failed, Spurs should have let it go from deep and manned up. Not let Pop take out his frustration with bad subs and play calling at crucial points of the game. We were playing like crap as it was.

[Darcus]

I am not crying about how bad we played, I am all out bitching because it's stupid knowing we can play better.

"I am not whining, I am just whining"?

[Brutalis]

I'll try one more time for Hornets fans sake, normally I don't give the Suns/Mavs trolls time to think but hey, I feel bad for you.

Basically, this is a Spurs forum. And Spurs fans vent. You are a complete and utter dumb ass for being here and opening your mouth about the subject. Some people here do it on other teams forums as well, which is stupid. But oh well you can all be fucking stupid together.

Now say you want to talk ball or basketball, I am sure intelligent threads await your insider information. But it aint this one. Now for whatever reason you cannot catch a point, is beyond me. I rather not go on and on about it as I don't try to waste my time on purpose, as you obviously do.

[Darcus]

Basically, this is a Spurs forum. And Spurs fans vent. You are a complete and utter dumb ass for being here and opening your mouth about the subject. Some people here do it on other teams forums as well, which is stupid. But oh well you can all be fucking stupid together.

I just want to talk basketball. *shrugs*


Now for whatever reason you cannot catch a point, is beyond me.

Because you have yet to make one that makes any sense.

[RussN]

We lost because we could not hit a shot or play defense coming out of the locker room for the 3rd quarter. Pull your heads out of your asses.

Of course the refs had something to do with it...it is the NBA. If you don't like the way the refs call the games, don't watch/follow the NBA. It has always been like that and it will always be.

ps: we will get the calls to change the momentum in SA tomorrow, we will win tomorrow. Then we will go to NO and see who the better team is. If the Spurs show up and play the WHOLE game, we will win and move on. If not, the Hornets will.

The Spurs have been inconsistent all year, this isn't new for this series. Watch a few games in the regular season and you won't be as surprised now. Even though the playoffs is a different game, you still have to shoot consistently. Why do you think Pop always says the difference this year is "we didn't make shots" or "we made shots".

Some of you fans can be downright STUPID!!! You know nothing close to as much as Pop/Spurs players know about basketball, so just shut the fuck up and watch the game.