JJ Redick:Play me or trade me

[xtremesteven33]

http://nationalpost.pa-sportsticker.com/default.aspx?s=nba-news-display&nid=A3122061210875771A


Orlando Magic guard J.J. Redick wants more playing time next season, the Orlando Sentinel reported.

A former first-round pick, Redick played in just 34 games this season and saw limited minutes in two postseason contests for Orlando, which was eliminated Monday by Detroit in the Eastern Conference semifinals.

With two years remaining on his contract, Redick had requested a trade in January, the Sentinel reported Wednesday.

"I want to play," Redick told the newspaper. "There were a lot of things that were said last summer and in the preseason, and I thought I was going to play. It didn't happen."

Redick was the 11th pick in the 2006 draft after scoring 26.8 points per game during his senior year at Duke University.

But the 6-4 sharpshooter averaged just 4.1 points in 8.1 minutes for the Magic this season, prompting Redick and his supporters to ask for more playing time.

"I don't think you reward playing time because I get an e-mail a day," Orlando general manager Otis Smith told the Sentinel. "We do think he's a pretty good player, but he's a backup (shooting guard)."

During his rookie season, Redick averaged 6.0 points in 14.8 minutes over 42 games.



-Shouldnt the spurs make a run at this kid? hes young and he can shoot the ball like nobodys business. he wants to play really bad, but hes a liability on defense. but so is barry right? spurs should make a trade for this kid. Im guessing the Magic want a player who can shoot 3's (cause thats all they do really) and who can rebound and play defense. anyone think MATT BONNER could fill that role?

makes sense right? Spurs dont play Bonner cause hes too big to be a SG and too small to be a PF/C. perfect for the Magic. Magic dont play Redick cause all he can do is shoot the ball. Spurs want youth and pure shooters to put around Duncan. looks like a good trade to me.

[BRHornet45]

I don't blame him. he hasn't been given a fair chance at starting.

[Findog]

He's not an NBA caliber player.

[T Park]

Reddick sucks, no thank you.

[BRHornet45]

He's not an NBA caliber player.

how do you know that son? he has only been in the NBA for 2 years and been held down on the bench.

[xtremesteven33]

Reddick sucks, no thank you.



how does he suck? he can get the ball in the hole. thats what BBALL is all about right? spurs struggle on offense cause our shooters are aging and can only play limited minutes. Redick would be perfect as a great catch and shoot guy.

[G-Nob]

Where do I sign?

[atxrocker]

minor league forum

[Cry Havoc]

how do you know that son? he has only been in the NBA for 2 years and been held down on the bench.

No defense.

Slow.

Undersized.

Misses translate into transition buckets for the other team because he's admiring his shot instead of running back on D.

Can't jump.

Below avg. passing skills at best.

Bad attitude.

[nfg3]

Riddick, a rookie, demanding a trade in his first year as a pro? Everyone wants more PT but for crying out loud earn it!

I'm with TPark and Findog - no thanks.

[BRHornet45]

Riddick, a rookie, demanding a trade in his first year as a pro? Everyone wants more PT but for crying out loud earn it!

I'm with TPark and Findog - no thanks.

he is not a rookie. been in the league 2 years.

[xtremesteven33]

No defense.

Slow.

Undersized.

Misses translate into transition buckets for the other team because he's admiring his shot instead of running back on D.

Can't jump.

Below avg. passing skills at best.

Bad attitude.



bad attitude? what heve u met him before?

passing skills and jumping are things the spurs dont really thrive on. they are more defense and good shot selection. jj cant play defense but neither can barry or finley. but he can shoot the ball. thats what the spurs need. give him a shot. im sure duncan wouldnt mind having a guy who shoots like him on his team.

[Allanon]

If Reddick was any good, he would get more than 8.1 minutes a game even as a backup. So what if he's a backup shooting guard, Sasha Vujacici is backup to the best shooting guard and he gets 18 minutes a game or so because he earned it.

Reddick has shooting talent but he must have some serious flaws in his game, work on it, don't whine about it.

I wonder how Reddick's shooting training DVD is going :D

[xtremesteven33]

If Reddick was any good, he would get more than 8.1 minutes a game even as a backup. So what if he's a backup shooting guard, Sasha Vujacici is backup to the best shooting guard and he gets 18 minutes a game or so because he earned it.

Reddick has shooting talent but he must have some serious flaws in his game, work on it, don't whine about it.

I wonder how Reddick's shooting training DVD is going :D



i agree but i dont think VAN GUNDY wants to give him a good shot. how do you get better? you play, you learn. he doesnt do a whole lot of great things but he can shoot the ball. youre right sasha did earn his minutes and the guy has turned into a clutch shooter. it took him awhile though. so it will for redick. he just needs a team to give him a chance. pop always gives his players a chance.

[BRHornet45]

i agree but i dont think VAN GUNDY wants to give him a good shot. how do you get better? you play, you learn. he doesnt do a whole lot of great things but he can shoot the ball. youre right sasha did earn his minutes and the guy has turned into a clutch shooter. it took him awhile though. so it will for redick. he just needs a team to give him a chance. pop always gives his players a chance.

son I agree. Regardless that I hate Duke, Redick is arguably one of the best shooters in NCAA history.

[T Park]

how does he suck? he can get the ball in the hole. thats what BBALL is all about right? spurs struggle on offense cause our shooters are aging and can only play limited minutes. Redick would be perfect as a great catch and shoot guy.


He sucks.

Yes.

Move on.

[T Park]

i agree but i dont think VAN GUNDY wants to give him a good shot. how do you get better? you play, you learn. he doesnt do a whole lot of great things but he can shoot the ball. youre right sasha did earn his minutes and the guy has turned into a clutch shooter. it took him awhile though. so it will for redick. he just needs a team to give him a chance. pop always gives his players a chance.

Yeah that 1-11 that "The machine" turned in last night was Stephen Jackson esque.

[AFBlue]

Redick can shoot...that's a talent that the Spurs value very much.

I liken this to the JR Smith almost-trade at the deadline a few years ago. He's a "buy low" candidate right now and is probably worth it in the long run.

Bottom Line: Depends on what the Spurs would have to give up, but yeah I think he's definitely worth a look.

[xtremesteven33]

Matt Bonner for JJ Redick would be an ideal trade for both teams.

Bonner has that crazy blue coller work ethic that Stan Van Gundy admires so much

and

JJ Redick has that shooting abllity that the Spurs need oh so badly

[Allanon]

i agree but i dont think VAN GUNDY wants to give him a good shot. how do you get better? you play, you learn. he doesnt do a whole lot of great things but he can shoot the ball. youre right sasha did earn his minutes and the guy has turned into a clutch shooter. it took him awhile though. so it will for redick. he just needs a team to give him a chance. pop always gives his players a chance.

That's certainly possible and I see your point. They say players earn time in the practice sessions, so I'm guessing his practice games aren't very good. I don't know many good players who get buried on the bench and then turn out to be a wonder gem. They're usually benched for a very good reason (ie. Matt Bonner)

Redick's still early in his career though so you might be right that he's being overlooked because he's still pretty new.

[AFBlue]

Matt Bonner for JJ Redick would be an ideal trade for both teams.

Bonner has that crazy blue coller work ethic that Stan Van Gundy admires so much

and

JJ Redick has that shooting abllity that the Spurs need oh so badly

Like it....do that deal in a heartbeat.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

Do not base player on Van Gundy coaches. You really believe Bogans is better player? Just like Luther Head "better" than Spanoulis :blah

[BRHornet45]

Van Gundy is a porn star

[xtremesteven33]

Van Gundy is a porn star

HAHA

ron jeremy

[WildcardManu]

I would take a chance for some O

[T Park]

Yeah and the night he breaks out his 2 for 8 and gives up 20 on the other end due to him being slow and a horrible defender, then no bitching.

[T Park]

JJ Redick is a fucking baller. You guys who thinks he sucks are fucking idiots.


Calling the rest of the known world idiots isn't an intelligent move there beach bum.

[Bob Lanier]

You really believe Bogans is better player?
Jesus Christ, yes.

[xtremesteven33]

Bonner for Redick....make it happen FO

[Cry Havoc]

bad attitude? what heve u met him before?

passing skills and jumping are things the spurs dont really thrive on. they are more defense and good shot selection. jj cant play defense but neither can barry or finley. but he can shoot the ball. thats what the spurs need. give him a shot. im sure duncan wouldnt mind having a guy who shoots like him on his team.

Gee, I don't know, maybe I've followed his career through college enough to know he's an asshole?

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2006/news/story?id=2482061

There's also video (might still be on youtube) of him at the post-game after Duke got beat his Junior year. He refused to shake the hand of any member of the other team and actually avoided looking at them or acknowledging the win.

He acted cocky back in the NCAA, and was always talking trash on the court.

He's a tool who's NEVER produced in big game situations. His NCAA tourney shooting percentage is right around 32% if memory serves. Once the Dukie refs weren't there to support him, his game was shit, even in college. The best player on arguably the best program in the past decade, and he can't even get to the Final Four? Weak. A total mental scrub.

And he is an absolute fucking SIEVE on defense. Yet he thinks he deserves play-time because his 35% 3 point shooting can extend out to 28 feet.

[xtremesteven33]

ok...good facts

if the spurs can handle STEPHEN FREAKIN JACKSON, we can handle this kid.i know once hes under some championship players and coach, it couldnt hurt. what is Bonner doing right now? sitting down just like him. give him a shot is all im saying

[Indazone]

Matt Bonner for JJ Redick would be an ideal trade for both teams.

Bonner has that crazy blue coller work ethic that Stan Van Gundy admires so much

and

JJ Redick has that shooting abllity that the Spurs need oh so badly

hmm might just work. JJ can take Bonner's place on the Spurs bench and Bonner can take JJ's spot on the Magic bench. :lol

[Findog]

how do you know that son? he has only been in the NBA for 2 years and been held down on the bench.

Are you serious?

[SRJ]

You'd think a guy that can shoot like he can would get a lot of time on a team with Dwight Howard. Shooters should get lots of open 3's with him around.

He must suck balls at everything but shooting.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

Jesus Christ, yes.

Bogans is not as good as him. How long before fans understand Super Van Gundy brothers know as much about coach basketball as Super Mario Brothers do?

http://www.newsday.com/media/photo/2008-04/38146258.jpg

http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/00nH0HY8vE3fk/610x.jpg

http://ui06.gamespot.com/549/1174525151gbcrvyf5kg_2.jpg

JVG even admits he have shave his porn stars mustache in years before because cannot take so many Super Van Gundy Brothers jokes.

[Cry Havoc]

what is Bonner doing right now? sitting down just like him. give him a shot is all im saying

What the fuck is the point of picking up someone who would completely destroy our defensive chemistry?

Why the hell would the Spurs want a completely one-dimensional player with no work ethic?

[Bob Lanier]

Bogans is not as good as him.
Bogans is a vastly better defender, a significantly better rebounder, and at least a comparable ballhandler and passer.

As shooters, they're more or less equivalent. Yes, Redick is a better shooter when he's unguarded, but the entire NBA does not play like the Phoenix Suns.

[samikeyp]

His whining would last maybe 5 minutes before Pop shipped his ass to the Siberian D-league for a long 3 and a dog sled to be named later.

No thanks.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

Bogans is a vastly better defender, a significantly better rebounder, and at least a comparable ballhandler and passer.

As shooters, they're more or less equivalent. Yes, Redick is a better shooter when he's unguarded, but the entire NBA does not play like the Phoenix Suns.

You is typical basketball "expert"

[Bob Lanier]

Sorry. I wish Keith were a white guy named Bogát too.

[mavs>spurs2]

You is typical basketball "expert"

You is typical know it all foreigner. Stick to Euro ball you must.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

He sucks.

[ShoogarBear]

:lmao

Why don't the Spurs try to get that guy who hit 3000 straight free throws, while they're at it?

[dirk4mvp]

He's not an NBA caliber player.


but he's an nba caliber shooter. and that's all he needs to find his niche somewhere in this league.

[Bob Lanier]

That and three more inches of height that would allow him to play at the 3, yes.

[Pistons < Spurs]

Reddick could be a star .... in Euroball.

[YellowFever]

Any advantage he might give you shooting the three ball will be more than nulified by his horrible defense.

Right now the Spurs play awesome help defense and it covers up Barry's (or Finley's) deficiencies.

Having another turnstyle in your linep will mess with that defense.

[Johnny RIngo]

ok...good facts

if the spurs can handle STEPHEN FREAKIN JACKSON, we can handle this kid.i know once hes under some championship players and coach, it couldnt hurt. what is Bonner doing right now? sitting down just like him. give him a shot is all im saying

SJax>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Reddick

I hope the Spurs stay the hell away from Reddick. He's an undersized scrub.

[BiZNicK]

I'll take baron davis over reddick...

Pop would love him. He can score, defend, and pass very well.

[rasho8]

I think Reddick could be a good player in a different system. Beno sucked mad balls here but plays well in Sac. And hes a softie.

I think if Reddick was a guard that could spot minutes and get coached under "Pop's defense bootcamp" he could be a good asset to the spurs.

Call me out if you want but I dont see how you can judge him as an NBA player since he hasnt played... at all.

[hsxvvd]

He'd be great to get in, have him sit here a year, learn under Finley and Barry. He'd make a great replacement when they are done.

[Obstructed_View]

The last thing the Magic need is a guy who shoots three pointers. Chances are if he's not getting PT it's because he doesn't think he needs to do anything other than shoot and demonstrates such in practice. Stan Van Gundy doesn't seem to be a fool, and clearly dislikes something about the guy.

My guess is that Redick will probably be a good NBA player someday when he reinvents himself into something more than a shooter with a big mouth. I doubt that's going to happen before he gets moved around a couple of times and faces reality.

[Pero]

Yeah that 1-11 that "The machine" turned in last night was Stephen Jackson esque.

He shot 3pter's and from the field over 50% before that game. :rolleyes

[DBryant88]

JJ Redick is a fucking baller. You guys who thinks he sucks are fucking idiots.

What the fuck do you know you like the pats your a fucking moron:idiot

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

I checks draft measurement he is 6-4 without his shoes on. So he is 6-5 way NBA measure players. He is not so small as fan here says. I believe he can be player similar for Spurs as Kerr were. He can be develop into such kind of player if he have coach that care about future of team not just current quarter of game. Van Gundy brothers has no vision. No mind ability to think for future.

People says Bogans is better is same stupid brains kind of peoples. It very easy to find players like Bogans. Every year in drafts can gets such player. Find players like Kerr is not so easy.

[Indazone]

Spurs already have two lights out shooters in Bonner and Barry. What do they need with another unproven slow white dude.

[Indazone]

Well Redick might be ok, if a team plays the Duke offense with a bunch of screeners and cutters. But how many NBA teams run their offenses like this? I would say that especially with a Van Gundy coached team that they will run slowdown grind it out basketball emphasizing defense. But they like playing inside out ball. Throw it in to the post player and then when the defense collapses, kick it out to the shooter. If Redick can't get playing time on a Dwight Howard team what does that say about him? Unless it's the old Van Gundy problem of never playing rookies.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

Spurs already have two lights out shooters in Bonner and Barry. What do they need with another unproven slow white dude.

These players is very poor shooters compare players like Kerr and Redick. This my opinion cannot compare them. Barry is old and need retire also. Bonner he just suck. I must say no way Spurs even keep such players. Maybe cannot get rid of Bonner but they will try.

It not such issue as you say because these two players you mention should not even be in Spurs. I am Spur fan and these two player must be replace. So Redick would be like Kerr but he would be only such player. if Spurs wants keep Barry and Bonner they is dumb and maybe Scola trade just reason because they is dumb.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

Well Redick might be ok, if a team plays the Duke offense with a bunch of screeners and cutters. But how many NBA teams run their offenses like this? I would say that especially with a Van Gundy coached team that they will run slowdown grind it out basketball emphasizing defense. But they like playing inside out ball. Throw it in to the post player and then when the defense collapses, kick it out to the shooter. If Redick can't get playing time on a Dwight Howard team what does that say about him? Unless it's the old Van Gundy problem of never playing rookies.

Brandon Bass
Jermaine O'Neal
David West

There is many others such player as well. Many player with "expert" coach who believe these player "suck" and can no play NBA. Just like other Van Gundy with Spanoulis who believe one of worst NBA player ever Luther head is better than player with complete skills.

Why NBA fans not understand this? NBA have VERY poor level of coaching compare top European clubs.

[Indazone]

Spurs will have lots of money and can easily clear roster room for JJ Redick. Maybe they can get this guy some open shots. All the film I've seen of Redick says he is a spot up shooter. He can make the shots coming off screens too. He does not dribble that well or penetrate. He's at best an average athlete who has injury problems. But if he plays the Steve Kerr role, he could be ok.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

Spurs will have lots of money and can easily clear roster room for JJ Redick. Maybe they can get this guy some open shots. All the film I've seen of Redick says he is a spot up shooter. He can make the shots coming off screens too. He does not dribble that well or penetrate. He's at best an average athlete who has injury problems. But if he plays the Steve Kerr role, he could be ok.

This is what I mean. For team like Spurs or old Bulls always good have player like Kerr or Redick off bench when shooter is need for 5 minute time when Duncan or other player is double team hard. I checks and Kerr not play early in career either and he also on bench in Orlando.

Dwight Howard fan keep says if Redick is good he will play. But I watch this Howard and he overrate. He is not good scorer and he do not make right or good pass from double team and he not even need get double team. He is not in same level as player like Yao who do such things or Duncan in past years.

Kerr also he is 6-1 and Redick 6-5. If Kerr can learn how be able play for 5-10 minute in key stretch for shooting to help team why Redick cannot? I watch many NBA final and please not try tell me Kerr is anymore fast or athletic.

[Indazone]

lol no Kerr is as slow as molasses. He played well with the Bulls and I remember in one final they put him in and he drilled shot after 3 pt shot and there was nothing the other team could do.

[Supergirl]

LOL. Don't you have to be GOOD before you can start demanding trades?

[stretch]

Brandon Bass
Jermaine O'Neal
David West

There is many others such player as well. Many player with "expert" coach who believe these player "suck" and can no play NBA. Just like other Van Gundy with Spanoulis who believe one of worst NBA player ever Luther head is better than player with complete skills.

Why NBA fans not understand this? NBA have VERY poor level of coaching compare top European clubs.

The difference between those listed players, and other euros who come and end up leaving the league without having much effect is because someone still sees something in those players. Fact is, there are like 30 teams in the league, all with different coaches. if absolutely none of those coaches and evaluators see something special in the player, then chances are, they are not very special or there is something wrong with them that prevents them from being able to play in a role they need them for in the NBA. keep in mind that a lot of personel desicions are due to needs of the team. there are plenty of times better players get cut, and worse players get signed, just due to what the team needs.

[monosylab1k]

JJ Barea & Devean George for Redick.

[Cashville]

he's an undersized SG who cant defend(very mediocre), cant dribble, cant rebound, and cant pass. The SG ahead of him are nice 3point shooters that do a lot of little things(defend, rebound, hustle). He's not a starting SG in this league, he can be a situational bench player though.

[Indazone]

The NBA is like when you were a kid playing King of the Mountain. There was always one kid at the top of say a sand heap. All the other kids would be climbing up trying to knock the guy at the top off while the kid at the top would keep pushing guys back down. Eventually, he'd get knocked off the top. So every year another new kid comes into the picture in the NBA trying to knock off the veterans. The weaker players get knocked off into the Euroleagues, China or another National team somewhere. Some just go off into the sunset. Redick is on the edge right now. He's either going to make it or get knocked off the hill.

[Cashville]

He can be a guy like Matt Carrol, bench shooter. But he needs to refocus and work hard on both ends because it took Matt Carrol years to get where he is at, and he has become a decent defender (shut down Joe Johnson once).

[xtremesteven33]

steve kerr was a very underrated defender by the way

[Cry Havoc]

Call me out if you want but I dont see how you can judge him as an NBA player since he hasnt played... at all.

He sucked in college (in the games that mattered). Why the hell would he be a decent NBA player while sucking in college?

[DBryant88]

LOL. Don't you have to be GOOD before you can start demanding trades?:lmao

[tlongII]

Reddick's the kind of player that the Spurs could take a chance on. Low risk, high possible return. I don't think you'd have to pay him too much. You could get lucky with him like you did on Udoka.

[xtremesteven33]

maybe jj redick could be what Peja is for the Hornets. JUST A SHOOTER. doesnt pass well, doesnt defend well, and doesnt make great plays but he a great catch and shoot guy. and as we can see, it has payed big dividends for the Hornets.

[Bob Lanier]

Peja's 6-9 and is an underrated defensive player.

[Kill_Bill_Pana]

Peja's 6-9 and is an underrated defensive player.

Even when Peja play in Greek league he cannot guard anyone.

[xtremesteven33]

Peja's 6-9 and is an underrated defensive player.



:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

[Bob Lanier]

He's a damn sight better than Redick, is all I'm saying.

I'd say he's about as good a defensive player as Carmelo Anthony or Corey Maggette -- which is to say, about average.