Official Horry Thread - Hope West get's better

[Capt Bringdown]

I love this new role the media invented for the Spurs, "The Team You Love to Hate."

Oh wait, I thought we were boring. Soft? Too old?

Just imagine if KG delivered such a foul (not that he'd ever be clever enough).

They'd probably invent some new kind of lifetime achievement award.

Or if it was the Pistons. "That's East Coast Basketball at it's finest."

Or Kobe. "The MVP wants it more than everyone else."

[hsxvvd]

"Fuck you I was one of them"

Feel proud. You cheered a cheap dirty foul on a play away from the ball to a player that was already hurt with his back turned to Horry.

I forgot to mention.. Spews up by 20 in the 4th quarter.

Coming from a Pistons fan...lol, Whose team plays "Dee-troit Basket-Ball" every time one of your players knock some-one to the ground.

So Laimbeer was dirty?:wow

[Texas_Ranger]

I really hate that guy that wrote Robert is ''cheap shot Rob'' on yahoo.sports. What a bitch.

Horry you rock.

Destroy bitchy hornets in game 7, let them whine.

[Obstructed_View]

Just imagine if KG delivered such a foul (not that he'd ever be clever enough).

Obviously you didn't see Lebron's dunk over him.

[to21]

Get over it already.

:lol Piston fan has been known for their great crowd behavior.....

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/basketball/games/2004-11-19-pacers-pistons_x.htm

[romsho]

It really doesn't matter. West has 4 days to get healthy. He should be at least 75% by then if not better.

The fact of the matter is the Spur's gameplan doesn't work on the road.

You hope not, huh douchebag? Because it's obvious who you don't want in the next round.

[TampaDude]

I hope West is healthy and ready to go for Game 7...I want the Spurs to beat NO at full strength...no excuses...no * by the mediots when the Spurs win Game 7 on Monday night.

[to21]

You hope not, huh douchebag? Because it's obvious who you don't want in the next round.Exactly! Worry about winning one in Utah, then open your mouth.

Not to mention, Utah could win one in LA.

[dg7md]

It's all about gravity.

Also, let me say the fans were completely classless and I regret that associate with that audience, but that being said:

:lmao at everyone taking David West or the Hornets as a scapegoat saints.

[Soul_Patch]

Heh...funny, as soon as i saw that play last night, i knew the short bus crusaders would be in full effect on Spurstalk today.

Of course i was right, with Dazedandconfused driving the bus.

Nothing malicious at all with the foul, robert horry ran down to set a screen to clear the baseline for Manu. He had no idea D west was going to jump into him backwards...he leaned into it to make sure he set it hard, and didnt give ground...that is play off basketball...get your fuckin cocks out of your mouths.

David West was cheered when he got up, and cheered till he got off the court. The Horry chants were to let him know we still respect him as being a tough competitor...to think otherwise is fucking ridiculous.

[TDMVPDPOY]

whether its a cheap shot or not, it was within the rules of the game :D

if you cant handle playoff basketball, then you should pack ur bags and head to phoenix with the rest of cryin fans.

[sa_butta]

Horry has been pretty quiet this entire playoffs, game 7 is just the game for him to have a coming out party on. Big Shot Rob!!!

I actually would have rather seen Paul get knocked on his ass. Not to hurt him or anything but just to make him think twice about the lane.

[foodie2]

In each year, he is to eliminate at least one crucial player of another team at the verge of beating the Spurs from the game for at least one game, to save the series for the Spurs. He is the guardian angel of you guys!:toast

He didn't eliminate anyone from the Phoenix series, that I remember. Can you remember someone that Horry eliminated? Please correct me if I'm wrong.

[homer]

Wow. I though Spurs fans are knowledgable. Horry was leaning forward so much that he'd fall on his face without the crash with West! That's not his space! Knowing West's bad back, he decided to let West feel it where it hurt most and succeeded. He anticipated the impact all along and leaned out of his own position to aggrevate it. The foul itself is nothing excessive but the circumstance makes others fans call it "dirty".

I would expect a Suns fan to say exactly that. You are right about two things,
He anticipated the impact and leaned forward. If he hadn't, West would have knocked him on his ass. West jumped backwards into him going for the pass. It's Horry's space if he's there first. It certainly wasn't West's space. Tell me, What would You have done differently if You were Horry? It wasn't intentional and you're an idiot. I'm sure the league will look at it and do nothing. Refs made the wrong call last game when Parker backed into Tyson and got put down. That was a foul on Parker, not on Chandler but Chandler got called for it and we all laughed.
One last thought: I don't think any fan likes to see players get hurt, but S.A. Fans are hoping West gets well soon, just not soon enough to play on Monday.

[carrecaminos]

I think it wasn't a cheap shot.

[DarrinS]

If people seriously think that was a dirty play, or even a hard foul, then the pussification of the NBA is complete.

[YoMamaIsCallin]

McCutcheon didn't even call the foul until West was on the ground.

Yes, exactly. And he probably did it just to stop the action because West was injured, and it didn't matter because the game was obviously won.

It would have been a no-call in a normal situation.

[Shaolin-Style]

I saw someone make a funny post on the lakers forum about this

"Darth Bowen has taught his young apprentice well."

I got a good laugh out of that.

[cjjr72984]

While I don't think the play was dirty, I was a bit disappointed in the Horry chants.

It's all good though, Chris Paul's post-game interview is all I needed to see to let me know that he'll come out on a mission Monday night.

[et-sa]

I cringed at the timing of the chanting, but honestly I don't think it was at West being injured. If it had been a more likeable player...one who was not so arrogant and didn't clap in Fab's face trying to instigate techs then maybe they would have paid more attention to the guy on the ground and realized he was really hurt. It was more a chant in support of Horry against the ref and then him taking a seat for what could very well be his last home game EVER. They did clap when DWest was able to get up which is something you won't hear in any of the media outlets because it gets better ratings to talk about the bad stuff. The majority of Spurs fans want a team at 100% when we beat them. We're tired of the asterisk BS that haters like to strap us with.

I would be mad as hell too if it happened to one of our players, but even the BSPN announcers who have never hidden their hard ons for the Hornets said it was a clean play. If DWest had not jumped right when he did Horry wouldn't have hit him in the sweet spot that caused all this. Did Horry know his back was injured? Yeah. Did he purposefully try to take him out? I really don't think so. He exploited a weakness...playoff basketball. Our guys play hurt all the time, but I would not expect the other team to take it easy on them. That's just ridiculous.

[VinnyTestesVerde]

Hornets fans cheered when Bowen got clotheslined by Bonzi.

Spurs fans paid it back with interest.

Anyone who has a problem with it can go find another board to bitch on.

i only care about this to the extent that it breeds excuses. this reeks of one already. should game 7 go our way, this will miraculously become THE play that was THE single reason for the series win. (knock on wood x 10000000)

deferred accountability. :bang

[LoveMySpurs]

The game was at commercial when West got up, i hope at least they applauded for him.

I was at the game when Sonics fans actually booed when one of our players got up and I was utterly disgusted, and I am no less disgusted by our fans in this case.

Go Spurs. Hope West's back is fine.

I was at the game, and there was applause when West got up and went to the locker room. Put a damper on the game for me- never want to see anyone laid out on the court for that long.

[bonesinaz]

I couldn't read through all the pages to see if this was written yet, but where is Reggie Miller's opinion on this? I mean he blamed TD for that hard Chandler pick on TP, so where was CP3? Shouldn't he have told West that a hard pick was coming? Reggie thought so when Chandler was tagged with the foul.

[MoSpur]

CP3 can have his biggest game in New Orleans in game seven. As long as no one else does.

[ClingingMars]

While I don't think the play was dirty, I was a bit disappointed in the Horry chants.

will you please beat this into the head of all the other fans from other teams who want to whine for ya'll? it's really fuckin annoying.

- Mars

[Sportcamper]

All those Spurs fans applauding and laughing when West went down…Then high 5-ing & chanting Horry, Horry, Horry…That was horrible…:rolleyes

[Obstructed_View]

David West has been quite classless on the court, he's a whiner and a bad sport. Not sure why anyone expects Spurs fans to like him, much less to be rooting for Spurs players to make sure not to be physical with him for fear of aggravating his injury. I was happy to see someone put him on his ass, even inadvertently, and thought the Horry chant was funny. I don't recall how it's the Spurs' fault that West's back is hurt. If he hadn't been injured he probably wouldn't even have gone down from that play.

[tony09manu]

For what it's worth...I was at the game and although there was the chant, several fans clapped for him when he got up and headed to the lockerroom. I was kinda shocked at the chant...but for some reason I don't think it was because of his injury.

[Sportcamper]

The TV replays showed something completely different...Spurs fans applauding and laughing when West went down...

[DudleyDawson]

I fucking love Robert Horry! I'm reminded of a commercial that I saw recently that sums up this entire situation perfectly..

"In a World Gone Soft, Someone's Got to be Hard."

If West is so injured that he can't even take a weak ass shot then he shouldn't be on the floor to begin with.

[NoMoneyDown]

I wouldn't call it a cheap shot either - a foul, yes, but not anything flagrant or cheap. It looks to me like West hyper-extended his back from the clip. Going up and back at the same time without knowing there will be a sudden obstruction to stop you can definitely cause some pullage of muscles. Either way, I think the 4 days off will do him good and he'll be ready to play for G7.

Edit: If it does turn out to be a pulled/hyperextended muscle in the lower back, I think even with several days of rest this could still affect his jump shot a little. Of course, if the Spurs go on to win AND do so with a "hobbled" West, it certainly will add to people saying they're a "dirty" team.

[vander]

this is going to turn into one embarrassing thread if we lose Monday, all this talk about toughness and balls and playoff basketball will look pretty foolish if NO comes out and Waxes us in game 7 :nope

[DarrinS]

this is going to turn into one embarrassing thread if we lose Monday, all this talk about toughness and balls and playoff basketball will look pretty foolish if NO comes out and Waxes us in game 7 :nope


No shit, right?

[mexicanjunior]

I can't believe people can be upset about this play and not be outraged about the pick from behind Chandler put on Parker a few games ago. He not only leaned into Parker and laid him out, he effing kicked his leg after the fact and stepped over him as he bitched about being called for a foul. Does anyone have that gif? I was shocked he wasn't, at the very least, called for a technical for kicking someone while he was down...

[Indazone]

That was a clean play. Horry did what he was supposed to do. Not give up anything easy in the lane. There wasn't any hand checking. All Horry did was stand there and not give ground.

[whottt]

I was at the game, and there was applause when West got up and went to the locker room. Put a damper on the game for me- never want to see anyone laid out on the court for that long.


Applauding a player when they get up is a good thing...it's when they boo him getting up that it's bad.

[jack sommerset]

whether its a cheap shot or not, it was within the rules of the game :D

if you cant handle playoff basketball, then you should pack ur bags and head to phoenix with the rest of cryin fans.


Its not a rule. Thats why a FOUL was called. Cheap shot Bob.

[spurschick]

A lot of people in the arena were disgusted at those who were chanting "Horry" after that. I saw people turn around and throw dirty looks, as well as telling them to shut up. Those who actually appreciate the game looked genuinely concerned and applauded for West when he got up and walked through the tunnel. I personally can't remember the last time I saw so many fans act like that when an opposing player went down. It really sucked and it makes the rest of us look bad.

[jack sommerset]

A lot of people in the arena were disgusted at those who were chanting "Horry" after that. I saw people turn around and throw dirty looks, as well as telling them to shut up. Those who actually appreciate the game looked genuinely concerned and applauded for West when he got up and walked through the tunnel. I personally can't remember the last time I saw so many fans act like that when an opposing player went down. It really sucked and it makes the rest of us look bad.

The greatness is that Spew fans are always claiming how much more class they have. I call BS yet again.

[Spurminator]

Hopefully West will be fine for Game 7 and we can forget about all of this.

[spurschick]

The greatness is that Spew fans are always claiming how much more class they have. I call BS yet again.

WTF? I just said that it was basically embarrassing that fans would do that, and you can't accept an apology?

[jack sommerset]

WTF? I just said that it was basically embarrassing that fans would do that, and you can't accept an apology?


I'm talking in general and I don't want an apology nor need one. Silly to think otherwise.

[YoMamaIsCallin]

Its not a rule. Thats why a FOUL was called. Cheap shot Bob.

No, you are dead wrong. The whistle was blown well after the play, when it was obvious that West was hurt. It was strictly a sympathy whistle to stop play and allow him to be taken off the court. If West hadn't thrown out his back, it was definitely a no-call.

[SnakeBoy]

Hopefully West will be fine for Game 7 and we can forget about all of this.

I'm rapidly getting to the point where I don't give a shit if he is or not. Between this and Paul's comments that the refs "let them guys win" it is clear they are setting up excuses in case they lose. I had alot of respect for the way they were playing & acting but now they are starting to sound like the New Orleans Suns.

[spurschick]

I'm talking in general and I don't want an apology nor need one. Silly to think otherwise.

The apology wasn't to you, so you need not think it was.

[jack sommerset]

No, you are dead wrong. The whistle was blown well after the play, when it was obvious that West was hurt. It was strictly a sympathy whistle to stop play and allow him to be taken off the court. If West hadn't thrown out his back, it was definitely a no-call.


Oh, my bad. You convinced me. Now if we can just get the news stations to quit showing us the play. Out of sight out of mind, then we can start brainwashing others that the play was not a foul.

[whottt]

A lot of people in the arena were disgusted at those who were chanting "Horry" after that. I saw people turn around and throw dirty looks, as well as telling them to shut up. Those who actually appreciate the game looked genuinely concerned and applauded for West when he got up and walked through the tunnel. I personally can't remember the last time I saw so many fans act like that when an opposing player went down. It really sucked and it makes the rest of us look bad.







The Bums got the chant going too!!



Thank god the bums were there so that not all fans ran down on the court to kiss David West's because of back spasms...as the Spurs are about to have to go into New Orleans to win a game 7. And if you think they are going to win that by not putting lots of Hornets on the ground...then haven't watched very many game 7's on the road.

[jack sommerset]

The apology wasn't to you, so you need not think it was.

My bad. I thought when you replied to my quote with "you can't accept an apology?" I thought it was directed to me. Silly me.

[fusionjazzman72]

I don't care if he plays or doesn't I just want a win!!

[spurschick]

My bad. I thought when you replied to my quote with "you can't accept an apology?" I thought it was directed to me. Silly me.

Meaning that you should appreciate the apologies that Spurs fans are giving to Hornets fans. What's wrong with you? Are you so bitter about not being in the post-season that you have nothing better to do than bandwagon?

[SpursWoman]

WTF? I just said that it was basically embarrassing that fans would do that, and you can't accept an apology?


He's just a Fuck's fan. Ignore him. :lol

[gobo]

You are a fucking idiot

horry pushed west when he was in the air. that is a dirty play.

[Spurminator]

horry pushed west when he was in the air. that is a dirty play.

He certainly took West by surprise while he was hovering in the air like that.

[gobo]

Horry didn't do a thing wrong. [/QUOTE]

Watch the replay. Horry pushed West when West was in the air. that should be wrong.

[Spurminator]

NBA Rule # 475:

Do not set a back screen on players who:

1. Have a sore back
2. Are jumping (or about to jump)

Anything else?

[Nolazach]

If West didn't have a hurt back then we wouldn't even be talking about this. Everyone on the Spurs knew he had a hurt back. Whether the play was intentional or not, it worked. D-West was stopped on that drive. Some people think it was on purpose to put West out of the game/series. I think it was just a foul, and not a hard one at that.

That didn't piss me off nearly as bad as the officiating in the third quarter. The calls were all ticky-tack bullshit. A hell of a lot of no-calls on the Spurs too. Though I was arguing with a Spurs fan the other day about how its cheap to blame the refs(like many Spurs fans did for game 5) so i can't stoop to his level. I do think the calls in the third quarter took us out the game. Put our two stars in foul trouble and fucked our defense up. With all that and D-West hurt we still didn't lose as bad as yall did in the last game. So all is well, the Spurs will fall monday.

[xtremesteven33]

whats with all the breast avatars?

[angel_luv]

I was there too. And I didn't say no one clapped for him. So I don't know your point of trying to correct me but whatever. :lol

So you know...

I typed that first post before ever seeing yours. Then once I had submitted it and saw yours, I was going to erase mine so to not appear to contradict you, as that was not my intention.

But you had already quoted me.

Then that next time I was responding to Mars- again not at all in connection with anything you posted.

Either way, it was just an opinion- and not an important one at that.

[Spurminator]

That didn't piss me off nearly as bad as the officiating in the third quarter. The calls were all ticky-tack bullshit. A hell of a lot of no-calls on the Spurs too. Though I was arguing with a Spurs fan the other day about how its cheap to blame the refs(like many Spurs fans did for game 5) so i can't stoop to his level. I do think the calls in the third quarter took us out the game. Put our two stars in foul trouble and fucked our defense up. With all that and D-West hurt we still didn't lose as bad as yall did in the last game. So all is well, the Spurs will fall monday.

I only saw one foul in that span that was even arguably a no-call (West on Ginobili). The rest were blatant. I think you've just gotten used to seeing that stuff overlooked.

[SAtown]

It seems like the Baseline Bums were the ones who started the chant. I was sitting right next to them

[SpursDynasty]

So you know...

I typed that first post before ever seeing yours. Then once I had submitted it and saw yours, I was going to erase mine so to not appear to contradict you, as that was not my intention.

But you had already quoted me.

Then that next time I was responding to Mars- again not at all in connection with anything you posted.

Either way, it was just an opinion- and not an important one at that.


Hey I was reading on your webpage...you forgot to mention that your dream vacation includes me.

[gobo]

NBA Rule # 475:

Do not set a back screen on players who:

1. Have a sore back
2. Are jumping (or about to jump)

Anything else?

hey, seriously i do not know the rules for screening. you are probably joking with pt # 1. by # 2 looks serious. is it true?

[spurschick]

It seems like the Baseline Bums were the ones who started the chant. I was sitting right next to them

They're also known for saying crap to Eva for no reason. I wouldn't say they're the greatest examples of fan decorum.

[Spurminator]

Part 2 is in the rulebook. There's more detail under 2a...


2A: Players about to set a screen must predict the exact timing of an opponent's forthcoming jump so they can avoid setting a screen at that moment.

[NoMoneyDown]

With all that and D-West hurt we still didn't lose as bad as yall did in the last game.

Once you get to a point where you know the game cannot be won, does it REALLY do any good to compare MOV's (especially when the difference is only a few points)?

[angel_luv]

Hey I was reading on your webpage...you forgot to mention that your dream vacation includes me.

:lol

I yielded to the better judgment of my editor and axed that part of the article.
Thanks for reading, though. :)

[Los Spurs]

I apologize personally that the fans were chanting after an injury. That was shit. It was a clean body check but the injury sucks....I hope West gets back for a possible game 7.

On Edit: The gif since this turned into the official thread

It looks like a clean pick to the soft tissue of the butt that wouldn't have hurt anyone except someone with an already injured back.
http://i29.tinypic.com/35bd0yu.gif

West=Nash

[BonnerDynasty]

lol @ anyone try to act like that was a dirty play.

Grab some balls and try to play basketball one in a while.

[J.T.]

Hey I was reading on your webpage...you forgot to mention that your dream vacation includes me.

This is the proper way to get with women as outlined in the book Women For Dummies, as told to me by my cousin Tommy whom I regifted the book to without ever reading it.

1. Slip a flunitrazepam into her drink
2. Wait 15 minutes
3. ???????
4. Profit

[Los Spurs]

lol @ anyone try to act like that was a dirty play.

Grab some balls and try to play basketball one in a while.

:toast

[BonnerDynasty]

That bitch wasn't tapping or clapping anyone on the chin anymore!


Welcome to Texas.

[whottt]

They're also known for saying crap to Eva for no reason. I wouldn't say they're the greatest examples of fan decorum.


:lmao you're kidding right?



These guys at one time were the most abusive misery inducing segment of fandom ever unleashed upon opposing teams by a pro sports franchise...and they were so annoying that opposint teams and coaches mentioned them by a name as a legitimate factor in winning in SA.


They dumped quacamole on Larry Brown's head...didn't keep him from coming here to coach.


Or perhaps Dr. J can put it better than I can:



This is a story about an old building in downtown San Antonio that was demolished 12 years ago.




It's not a sad story, and it's not about the building so much as it is about the spirit of those who worked and played at HemisFair Arena.

The spirit is alive. If you don't believe it, just ask one of the greatest players in basketball history.

Julius Erving credits loyal Spurs fans that attended games at the arena in the mid-1970s for forming the "groundwork" of the franchise's current success.


"The die-hards," Erving said, "they got to see a championship franchise before the validation."


By validation, he means four championships in the past nine years.



"The (championship) trophies started coming in, in what, 1999?" said Erving, a longtime Spurs nemesis who played his last game in 1987. "But all the groundwork was laid before that, with the former owners, the players, the fans, the Baseline Bums (fan group). They were the foundation. The Spurs have roots. It's not like this happened overnight."


That is a fan base that made Dr J's life so miserable as a player that he actually remembered their name decades after he was retired.



What you witnessed there was an interaction between an old school segment of fans and an oldschool player in Horry...it was a level of communication and understanding that newer fans just don't get...and there was nothing dirty or unsportsmanlike about it...


That's why they chanted Horry and didn't just cheer....to make it clear that they were cheering Horry, not David West's injury.

Nor is West seriously injured. Nor was that dirty play by Horry.


And Robert Horry appreciated those chants.

[angel_luv]

This is the proper way to get with women as outlined in the book Women For Dummies, as told to me by my cousin Tommy whom I regifted the book to without ever reading it.


There are very few women who want to be with a dummy- so good luck, Tommy. :lol

[whottt]

Fan cheering a player going down, booing when he gets up(as the Hornets fans did to Bruce Bowen in New Orleans) = Bad


Fans chanting a players name when he delivers a hard foul and cheering(even lightly) or being silent when the down player gets up = Good



There's a reason that they cheered Horry...and mentioned his name when West went down, and didn't just cheer blindly. And they did cheer when West got up.


I do not know how they could have made it more clear that they were cheering Horry than they did. Spell it out on the court?


Not the same thing that happened to Duncan in Seattle....at all.

[spurschick]

:lmao you're kidding right?

No, I'm not kidding. You're referring to the Baseline Bums of 20 years ago. Times have changed.

[SnakeBoy]

He didn't eliminate anyone from the Phoenix series, that I remember. Can you remember someone that Horry eliminated? Please correct me if I'm wrong.

You must have a bad memory. See here is how it went down. Horry knew that if he gave a hip check to Nash then some Suns players would be stupid enough to leave the bench area and then be suspended for a game. Not just a game, the ONLY game that counted in the series. He planned it all perfectly.

Same as Horry knew that West would be jumping in the air with his back to the basket so he positioned himself perfectly. Then with ninja like accuracy he delivered the hit to the precise muscles that would trigger a back spasm.

Horry is the Puppet Master.

[SPARKY]

http://i29.tinypic.com/35bd0yu.gif

Manu drives left, gets the angle on Pargo and then Horry steps up to pick West and give Manu a path to the rim. Manu opts to pass, West reacts and jumps to deflect it, and lands on Horry who was gearing up to set the pick.

[SPARKY]

Of course, I don't know what the play looked like from the Grassy Knoll....

[whottt]

No, I'm not kidding. You're referring to the Baseline Bums of 20 years ago. Times have changed.



This is the last chance the Spurs will have to repeat...and it's no time for BS trivialities if you want to see that happen(and I know in your heart that you do).


I'd just like you to answer one question for me and I think it will perfectly illustrate the difference in fan mindsets...


Did it occur to you, at any point during that game that that could possibly be the last time Horry would ever be playing a game on his home court in front of his home fans? It could very well be the last time he hears his name chanted...


Did you even think of that during the course of that game?


And I'll let you in on something else...those baseline bums are called smart fans, and they are called smart fans for a reason, and they know ways of interacting with players having done so for decades that the casual fan hasn't got a clue of...

And they also know if they do something the other fans are likely to follow their lead...they are very well aware of this fact and the role they play, the example they set.


For instance, chanting a player's name in his final game...it's a special form of goodbye usually reserved for a certain type of player, not necessarily a Superstar...a player whose contributions are usually hidden in the shadow of their suerpstars, and lost on the casual fan, but are just as important to the teams success as anything...


It's way of saying goodbye...it's a way of saying thanks...we get it.





NEW YORK (AP) -- The backbone of the Yankees said good-bye to his fans Thursday night.

For nine years, Paul O'Neill showed his teammates how to win, how not to give up. Also, how to throw helmets and bats, kick benches and punch walls.

And finally, after the Yankees' 3-2, 12-inning win over Arizona in World Series Game 5 Thursday night, O'Neill finally admitted what everybody knew: He will retire after this weekend.

"I can't think of a better way to go out in my last game at Yankee Stadium," O'Neill said.


"Paul-O'Neill! Paul-O'Neill!" the entire stadium chanted through the entire top of the ninth.


That's the way Yankee fans...who are the smartest fans in all of sports said goodbye to their Horry....as he retired, and took the late 90's Yankee Dynasty with him...quietly.





Times haven't changed...what's changed is that the Spurs have more fans now...fans who are here or joined when the championships were being won, and will will be gone when this run is over...


But the bums will still be here...



And Robert Horry? If that was his last game in front of his home fans...he's going to remember his name was chanted...and he's going to remember a particular group of fans, whose team he once upon a time hurt with his style of play, and who's team he later won pivotal game 5 finals games in Detroit for...got it. Got him. And it's going to be one of the best memories of his career.


Robert Horry > David West


So tell me...did you think about the fact that there is a very good chance it was his last game in front of his home fans?


They chanted his name for a reason.

[SRJ]

whottt, though I am certain you and I will be knocking heads before long, you are demonstrating much ownage on this topic. Props.

[spurschick]

Did it occur to you at any point during that game that that could possibly be the last time Horry would ever be playing a game on his home court in front of his home fans.

Of course it did. There were people leaving towards the end of the 4th quarter and it was clear that they didn't consider it might be the last home game of the season.

There were other plenty of other moments to chant Horry's name and that actually did happen. The fact that some fans chose that particular moment was crappy. And you can't tell me that they were doing it because it may have been his last home game. If another player had been involved, the crowd would've been chanting their name. I highly doubt it had anything to do with appreciation for the Rob's body of work while he's been a Spur. Do you think he wants to be remembered for that? And for what happened with Nash?

[spurschick]

whottt, though I am certain you and I will be knocking heads before long, you are demonstrating much ownage on this topic. Props.

Since when are people expressing their opinions ownage? Nobody is right or wrong here.

[SRJ]

Note to Spur players: if we get past NO and play against a team featuring a player dealing with injury, do not guard them. You can't take the chance that you might upset the fanbase.

[SRJ]

Since when are people expressing their opinions ownage? Nobody is right or wrong here.

Yes, I expressed ownage as fact. Carry on.

It's my post. Must I begin every post with "IMO"?

[spurschick]

Yes, I expressed ownage as fact. Carry on.

It's my post. Must I begin every post with "IMO"?

If that's your way of saying you agree with him, I'll accept that.

[Johnny RIngo]

Nice flop by West. He was milking the injury for all it's worth. Better to gain some sympathy from the media after a 20 point blowout, right? He'll be 100% come Monday.

[SRJ]

If that's your way of saying you agree with him, I'll accept that.

That's what it is.

[cashmoney818]

I don't think it was a cheap shot.

btw here is a clip of the play

http://www.sports-tube.com/view_video.php?viewkey=3049b03e0f1ccebb02b4

[VinnyTestesVerde]

Part 2 is in the rulebook. There's more detail under 2a...


2A: Players about to set a screen must predict the exact timing of an opponent's forthcoming jump so they can avoid setting a screen at that moment.

ahh yes, the little known 2A rule :lol

[jman3000]

from where i was it sounded like the chant started around the area of the baseline bums... perhaps the area above it and quickly spread through the arena.

i think they just thought it was a hard shot and he was in some pain... you can't give the fans the benefit of the doubt in knowing that he had pre existing back problems... i mean my mom was chanting horry and she had no idea what was going on.

the crowd did give west a standing O once it was seen he needed help getting up and held the applause until he went under the entrance.

they chanted his name a few minutes later after he had got hit with another foul... i think it was just an homage to horry being an enforcer than with anything pertaining to the hornets.

just my 2 cents.

[whottt]

Of course it did. There were people leaving towards the end of the 4th quarter and it was clear that they didn't consider it might be the last home game of the season.

I'd say the majority of fans there weren't considering it...but I'd be willing to bet that Robert Horry knew it.





There were other plenty of other moments to chant Horry's name and that actually did happen. The fact that some fans chose that particular moment was crappy.

Why? Because he was demonstrating the attitude the Spurs are going to have to have to beat a seriously good NO Team in game 7?


Because he was the first Spurs player in this entire series to put a Hornet on his butt after they've been doing it to our guys all series?


Because he was perfectly illustrating what he is all about as a player?


Because it was the perfect moment to do so and actually get the rest of the crowd doing it...



Fact: If it was Robert Horry's last game, he's going to remember his name was chanted. I promise you...he's not embarrassed in the slightest about it. It made him feel good.






And you can't tell me that they were doing it because it may have been his last home game.

Yeah...because they chant Horry's name all the time?

They do name chants all the time at AT&T?






If another player had been involved, the crowd would've been chanting their name.

Because they do those sorts of chants all the time, don't they?


The probably gave Horry an ovation every time he entered the game last night and majority of Spur fans probably didn't even notice it....


But they were watching that foul...which presented the perfect opportunity to send Horry out in style.


He knew it could be his last game...and I gurantee you he appreciated that chant.





I highly doubt it had anything to do with appreciation for the Rob's body of work while he's been a Spur.

I think it had something to do with his entire body of work...not just his Spur career, but also a SPur killer. Robert Horry is a special player who deserves a special goodbye...you don't see it much because Robert Horry's are rare. IT's the championships and the role he plays in winning them. Not just another bench guy...not a superstar, but a guy who brought the gold with him, and will likely be taking it with him when he goes.





Do you think he wants to be remembered for that?

For game 5? 21 points in the fourth quarter and OT? In Detroit? In the Finals? On the road?

That happens all the time I guess.





And for what happened with Nash?

I think Horry giggles when he thinks about leveling Nash's ass...I think it makes him feel warm and fuzzy all over, and I think he feels absolutely no remorse or shame for that foul, and probably considers it a major reason they won the next game and went onto win their fourth NBA championship...


Becuase Robert Horry has no conscience when it comes to ripping an opposing team or players hearts out...


IF he hit 99 clutch shots in a row against your team to win 99 consecutive game 7's in 99 consecusitve Finals and he has won 99 consecutive championships by beating your team 99 consecutive times...as he is taking the 100th consecutive shot to beat your team in it's 100th consecutive Game 7 in it's 100 consecutive Finals to win his 100th consecutive championship and deal you your team it's 100th consecutive loss...



Not for one instant would Robert Horry thinking of missing that shot and letting you win one...he'd hit it more true and accurately than he had the 99 that came before it...and he'd feel good about doing it. And he'd look at you like you just don't get it as your heart is ripped out.

He would not feel sorry for you for one instant...he does not have that part of a competitive mind...he is not contaminated with that weakness.

Because it is a game...and it is about competition, and their job is to beat the other team...and Robert Horry never gets confused about that.

Not for one second is he ever confused about his purpose and objective on the court in relation to the other team.


And that's why he's got 7 rings.


That's why you want him on your team and not on the other team...


And that's why you chant his name when he is possibly playing in his last game if you get the chance to do so...



There's also that whole setting the tone and not playing like wimps thing...but it's a given that Horry always sets that tone.


SO you tell me then...why did they chant his name?


Because he delivered a hard foul?


For them to cheer another SPurs player doing it, another player would be having to do it, and in case you haven't noticed...there aren't any. Hopefully the players were listening to the fans chanting Horry's name...and not the ones hoping David West isn't offended...because the offended fans aren't going to be the ones focusing on the game 7 at hand...but they'll be complaining every bit as loudly if the Spurs lose....and they'll probably be calling them weak and soft.

[jack sommerset]

Meaning that you should appreciate the apologies that Spurs fans are giving to Hornets fans. What's wrong with you? Are you so bitter about not being in the post-season that you have nothing better to do than bandwagon?

Gotcha. I don't have a favorite team. I'll change again. I'll pick the Spews for a few days. You can't register without picking a "favorite"

:flag::flag::flag::flag::flag::flag::flag::flag::f lag::flag::flag::flag::flag::flag::flag:

[spurschick]

I'm not going to get into a pissing contest with you, whott. You have your opinion, I have mine. If it's necessary for you to thump your chest to get through the day, then fine... you win.

:flag:

[spursjustice]

lol @ anyone try to act like that was a dirty play.

Grab some balls and try to play basketball one in a while.

Amen. Not many old school players left. Basketball is turning into a sport for the soft.

"Remember the McHale clothesline on Rambis," he (Byron Scott) sniffed. "That was just two free throws."

[jack sommerset]

Nice flop by West. He was milking the injury for all it's worth. Better to gain some sympathy from the media after a 20 point blowout, right? He'll be 100% come Monday.


:lol....West Flopped....:lol It keeps getting better.

[Spurminator]

What kind of Spurs fan would give an ovation to a player heading into a Game 7? What Spurs fan would even entertain the possibility that Horry won't play another home game?

Turn in your card, Whottt.

[slowchild25]

"Remember the McHale clothesline on Rambis," he (Byron Scott) sniffed. "That was just two free throws."

X7r6vXeOfyQ

[SnakeBoy]

...

:cheer:worthy::toast

[whottt]

What kind of Spurs fan would give an ovation to a player heading into a Game 7? What Spurs fan would even entertain the possibility that Horry won't play another home game?

Turn in your card, Whottt.



Aren't you married? :wtf

[whottt]

Don't pile on poor little me...I'm just trying to get SC's fandom in as good of shape as her bravatar :tu

[Spurminator]

Aren't you married? :wtf

As I've told you in countless PMs, YES!

[spurschick]

Don't pile on poor little me...I'm just trying to get SC's fandom in as good of shape as her bravatar :tu

My fandom is just fine, thanks.

[Nolazach]

I too agree with Whottt, it probably was Horry's last game in SA.

No, Honestly the types of fans like your baseline bums. Are the great fans of pro-sports. We have fans like that for the Saints. Some of who live only to make opposing fans time at the game hell, some of which start cheers, or what-not.

These guys you have, are old time fans, and the tradition is passed down. No faults with them. We chher fouls and boo calls against us, no matter if we are at fault or not.
The Hornets fans haven't been around as long, and even us who bought tickets for the 02-03 season, still had those two years without them.

So I applaud you B-line Bums. If West hadn't been hurt in the first place it wouldn't have been an issue. Who cares about pissing us off, because we want to piss you off Monday. I think West will be back for that game. I think the home team will win.

So if it was to be Horry's last game, at least he was able to have his name chanted, when the normally silent, lethargic fans were actually loud.

On a side note the old man who looks like a grey haired KISS troll, someone need to take that wooden noisemaker away from him. That is so annoying and you hear him all the time on TV.

[jag]

My fandom is just fine, thanks.

This whole thing is ridiculous...for anyone to think that foul or the cheering is unacceptable is a joke.

It's playoff basketball, what about that do fans not get? There are going to be hard fouls, there are going to be tempers and attitudes...if Spurs fans want to feel shame for that incident then they should probably find another team to cheer for.

[SAtown]

On a side note the old man who looks like a grey haired KISS troll, someone need to take that wooden noisemaker away from him. That is so annoying and you hear him all the time on TV.

:lol He's been wearing the same stuff for all playoffs home games. For some reason, I think he's good luck

[urunobili]

NO ONE and i mean NO ONE in this Spurs roster had the balls to do what Robert Horry did... CP3 has been deserving a hard foul since the beginning of the series and so David West... Robert Horry just put things on its place.. u don;t win a championship playing shit soft D

[jag]

So I applaud you B-line Bums. If West hadn't been hurt in the first place it wouldn't have been an issue. Who cares about pissing us off, because we want to piss you off Monday


Thank you! I've spent the first 3 years of college attending Tennessee Vols football games and seeing SEC rivalries like UT vs FL Gators, UT vs Georgia...etc. You'll see fans dumping beer on each other, cursing at each other for the entire duration of the game, throwing things at each other...do i think these things are classy...NO. But it's what makes the rivalry, and when our fans go to Gainsville or Athens to attend games in their stadium, we get the same treatment.

This is hardly something to be apologizing for.

[spurschick]

This whole thing is ridiculous...for anyone to think that foul or the cheering is unacceptable is a joke.

It's playoff basketball, what about that do fans not get? There are going to be hard fouls, there are going to be tempers and attitudes...if Spurs fans want to feel shame for that incident then they should probably find another team to cheer for.

You're entitled to your opinion as I am to mine. I take good sportsmanship to heart and I respect those that feel the same.

[slowchild25]

Thank you! I've spent the first 3 years of college attending Tennessee Vols football games and seeing SEC rivalries like UT vs FL Gators, UT vs Georgia...etc. You'll see fans dumping beer on each other, cursing at each other for the entire duration of the game, throwing things at each other...do i think these things are classy...NO. But it's what makes the rivalry, and when our fans go to Gainsville or Athens to attend games in their stadium, we get the same treatment.

This is hardly something to be apologizing for.

I have to disagree I'm an LSU fan yelling "Tiger Bait" at someone and talking trash is funny and builds a rivalry. Throwing beer bottles or dumping beer on someone while doing it is just stupid immature and is something that shouldn't be tolerated.

[jag]

I have to disagree I'm an LSU fan yelling "Tiger Bait" at someone and talking trash is funny and builds a rivalry. Throwing beer bottles or dumping beer on someone while doing it is just stupid immature and is something that shouldn't be tolerated.

I didnt say i was doing it and i didnt say it was classy, i simply said it happens regardless of whether or not you tolerate it. Fans cheering for Horry is hardly something to be apologizing for.

[Nolazach]

Thank you! I've spent the first 3 years of college attending Tennessee Vols football games and seeing SEC rivalries like UT vs FL Gators, UT vs Georgia...etc. You'll see fans dumping beer on each other, cursing at each other for the entire duration of the game, throwing things at each other...do i think these things are classy...NO. But it's what makes the rivalry, and when our fans go to Gainsville or Athens to attend games in their stadium, we get the same treatment.

This is hardly something to be apologizing for.


Oh yeah SEC games. Usually pre-game you will get a warm reception and enjoy some southern comfort. Then right before the game starts, it goes wild. Our (LSU) fans do get pretty mean to opposing fans, but5 I think Auburn and Gainesville are the toughest for visiting fans, Death Valley is the worst for visiting teams.
We all need to focus on our teams, I don't care what you think about us. We do alot to piss people off (the boooooing, GEAUX), as do you. I think it adds to the fun.

Like Whottt said more attention should be given to the fact that it could be Horry's last game.

[nfg3]

In each year, he is to eliminate at least one crucial player of another team at the verge of beating the Spurs from the game for at least one game, to save the series for the Spurs. He is the guardian angel of you guys!:toast


Damn - found out at last. Shit! And it's believed to even be in his contract with bonus money, too. :rollin Spurs FO wont comment on this, though.

[jag]

Oh yeah SEC games. Usually pre-game you will get a warm reception and enjoy some southern comfort. Then right before the game starts, it goes wild. Our (LSU) fans do get pretty mean to opposing fans, but5 I think Auburn and Gainesville are the toughest for visiting fans, Death Valley is the worst for visiting teams.
We all need to focus on our teams, I don't care what you think about us. We do alot to piss people off (the boooooing, GEAUX), as do you. I think it adds to the fun.

Like Whottt said more attention should be given to the fact that it could be Horry's last game.

Gainesville sucks...it's absolutely terrible going down there to support the Vols, but in a way it's kinda fun cause you get the worst treatment as a person just to support your boys. If you don't like it, find another sport, find another team, or turn your penis in. Who cares what other teams or opposing fans think of you, it's about your team and your team winning.

[jag]

And to be honest, do i want David West to get better in time for game 7? Hell no, do i hope he gets better eventually, sure i do. If Duncan got hurt during game 6 would you hope like hell that he gets better in time for game 7? Hell no you wouldnt, yall want to win, just like we want to win. I just dont get the apologizing and "hope he gets better" talk.

It would have been interesting to see Amare play last year, i still think we would have won, but not having to see him for a game was nice. Any Spurs fans who say they really hope he plays monday are lying to themself and other fans.

I like talking ball with NO fans, i actually think they're funny, but that doesnt mean i want to see NO win, and that doesnt mean i'm going to apologize for Horry putting a hard foul on DWest.

[whottt]

My fandom is just fine, thanks.


I thought you didn't want to get into a pissing contest with me and had accepted defeat? That doesn't sound like an acceptance of defeat...



Look, you don't like your fandom being questioned? That's exactly what you did to those fans cheering Horry's name...


It's ok for you to give your opinion but not for others to give theirs?


You attributed to a certain segment of fans, a certain segment that have never cheered a seriously injured player, in nearly 40 years, you attributed to them a lack of sportsmanship and a desire and sense of enjoyment over David West's injury...


And you were simply wrong to do so. They were not cheering David West's injury...you are wrong about that, they were cheering Robert Horry.



And according to at least one other attendee who posted in this thread...the same group gave West a standing ovation when he got up...


Not an act of classlessness or poor sportsmanship...but a level of fan interaction with players, actually a several levels of interaction, that you were unaware of.


That they were chanting Horry should have made it pretty clear. That they didn't boo West getting up should make it even more clear. It's not a typical chant...for a hard foul, for a player getting injured, for anythiung it's not any kind of a common chant in San Antonio...and neither is celebrating a player injury.


Trust me...the day SA Fans start cheering injuries to players...the baseline bums will be the last ones joining in...not the ones starting it.


IT'll be the new fans from "this time" that start that shit.


[/pissing contest]

[ClingingMars]

The TV replays showed something completely different...Spurs fans applauding and laughing when West went down...

actually being there >>>>>>>> TV.

- Mars

[whottt]

actually being there >>>>>>>> TV.

- Mars



He's wrong anyway....it was obvious that the fans were cheering Horry. It was obvious on TV they weren't cheering West's injury...it was also obvious that if anything they cheered when he stood up and there were no boos.


It was so obvious that the announcing team didn't even deem it worth a condemnation as they do any time fans cheer an injury.


Not for a second after they chanted Horry did I have any doubt about why they were chanting. It's not a common chant...and neither are Spurs fans cheering injuries.

[spurschick]

It's ok for you to give your opinion but not for others to give theirs?

Guess you didn't read what I posted below.


You're entitled to your opinion as I am to mine. I take good sportsmanship to heart and I respect those that feel the same.

[ClingingMars]

instead of making some huge post about the incident, i'll make it real simple. I agree with what whottt said.

also, cocks.

- Mars

[jack sommerset]

He's wrong anyway....it was obvious that the fans were cheering Horry. It was obvious on TV they weren't cheering West's injury...it was also obvious that if anything they cheered when he stood up and there were no boos.


It was so obvious that the announcing team didn't even deem it worth a condemnation as they do any time fans cheer an injury.


Not for a second after they chanted Horry did I have any doubt about why they were chanting. It's not a common chant...and neither are Spurs fans cheering injuries.


Rightttttttttttttttt. To bad everyone at the game does not feel the same way..Why would they cheer Horry on that play? Good God man!

[ClingingMars]

Rightttttttttttttttt. To bad everyone at the game does not feel the same way..Why would they cheer Horry on that play? Good God man!

because Horry made an intelligent play, and it might be his last game ever in SA?

you are such an idiot.

- Mars

[jack sommerset]

because Horry made an intelligent play, and it might be his last game ever in SA?

you are such an idiot.

- Mars


OH OK. C'mon. You are fooling yourself. Its a dirty play. You are the idiot. The Cheered for knocking West on his ass, from behind, cheered watching West obviously in agony. Give me a freaken break.

[jag]

OH OK. C'mon. You are fooling yourself. Its a dirty play. You are the idiot. The Cheered for knocking West on his ass, from behind, cheered watching West obviously in agony. Give me a freaken break.

You're very sensitive for a man don't ya think?

[manufor3]

Veteran player who can execute when ordered to take an oppossing star out of the game- check

Fans in the arena praising a dirty play that sends a player to the floor in pain- check

Fans who cannot or will not acknowledge that the play was dirty- check

Stay classy San Antonio

he didnt do much, and most of the spurs fans there apparently hated d. west

[E20]

David West should press charges. LMAO

[jack sommerset]

You're very sensitive for a man don't ya think?


Yes thanks for noticing. I was against the anger management classes the court order me to take but they seemed to be working. I beat the hell out of the fat Spew fan in a bar. He did not deserve it. I'm getting better.

[ClingingMars]

Yes thanks for noticing. I was against the anger management classes the court order me to take but they seemed to be working. I beat the hell out of the fat Spew fan in a bar. He did not deserve it. I'm getting better.

why don't you shut down your browser and never come back to this site again until you learn how to spell the world Spurs?

- Mars

[jag]

Yes thanks for noticing. I was against the anger management classes the court order me to take but they seemed to be working. I beat the hell out of the fat Spew fan in a bar. He did not deserve it. I'm getting better.

...right

[LakerHater]

Im glad he is hurt, those moving screens on gifted to Parker by chandler are just as bad. Just our players arent soft like hornets.
:clap

[vander]

whottt, though I am certain you and I will be knocking heads before long, you are demonstrating much ownage on this topic. Props.

my sentiments as well :toast

[NRHector]

OH OK. C'mon. You are fooling yourself. Its a dirty play. You are the idiot. The Cheered for knocking West on his ass, from behind, cheered watching West obviously in agony. Give me a freaken break.
is not a dirty play West was hurt he should of been on the bench, he took a risk and lost, I hope Horry gets some rest and be ready for game 7

[SequSpur]

wgaf.

[gobo]

http://i29.tinypic.com/35bd0yu.gif

Manu drives left, gets the angle on Pargo and then Horry steps up to pick West and give Manu a path to the rim. Manu opts to pass, West reacts and jumps to deflect it, and lands on Horry who was gearing up to set the pick.

what a homer! West lands on horry? come on what it carefully.

[SPARKY]

what a homer! West lands on horry? come on what it carefully.

In english, please.

[ClingingMars]

In english, please.

[gobo]

In english, please.

I meant to say watch it carefully.

[player_twister]

LIVE with it, you had to be there. I have been to every playoff game in the AT&T center, and I have seen what the Hornets have done with the spurs with physical play. What, they can't have it dished back???

Right On Horry, WTG. HORRY!!!! HORRY! HORRY!!!!!!!!