"Let them guys win" -CP3

[MoSpur]

According to Dan Patrick, Chris Paul said something at the scorers table last night about the refs letting the Spurs win.

I don't know the exact statement, but CP3 apparently said, "Its like they got a call at halftime saying let those boys win." To me it means he was saying that the league call the refs at halftime and told them to give the calls to the Spurs and let them win.

What's your reaction?

[SpurOutofTownFan]

My reaction is the same.. he's not in the class.

[degenerate_gambler]

i think Buck Harvey's article has the quote.

[Ocotillo]

That was in the Express-News this morning as well.

My reaction, eh! Who cares, it was a heat of the moment type thing and he was likely frustrated. On to game 7.

[Spurminator]

I can't blame him for thinking he was jobbed. I mean, for 5 1/2 games he was allowed to throw himself into the defender and knock him backwards on his way to the basket... he probably thought that was legal. Suddenly, 264 minutes into the series, the refs start making calls that follow the rules of basketball and it takes him out of his game.

Hopefully he gets similarly jobbed in Game 7. I cannot believe it took that long for him to get a f'ing offensive foul called on him. Of course, that's one of the drawbacks cheering for a team who rarely ever complains about calls after the game... most other coaches would have called CF3 out after Game 1 or 2 and drawn more attention to his bullshit.

[MannyIsGod]

Spurm, I'm sure the Spurs are in communication with the league as much as any other team about the refs. Pop usually just doesn't do it in press conferences.

[MoSpur]

I didn't realize that the quote was in Buck Harvey's article. If you want to combine the threads, I'm all for it. My bad guys.

[MoSpur]

I'm still waiting for someone like Thomas or Horry to lay a hard foul on CP3. The Hornets have done it to Bruce, Tony, and Manu. If I were Tony or Manu, I would go up to Thomas or Horry and say, "hey, see what they just did to me, do the same do CP3."

[Spurminator]

You may be right, and I wouldn't be surprised if there was some discussion at half time last night that drew attention to his tendency to foul on his way to the basket. But it still took 5 1/2 games, and maybe it's just perception, but it seems like whining to the press is more effective in altering the way games are called.

(Not that I'm advocating it.)

[duncan228]

It is in Harvey's article:

http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/columnists/bharvey/stories/MYSA051608.01D.COL.BKNharvey.spurs.1054a96b0.html

Buck Harvey: Return to cheap-shot Rob: He's left with one response

Then came a rash of fouls against West and Chris Paul that made them feel as if they had their own Joey Crawford in the AT&T Center. After the two of them had been called for four fouls in about a minute, Paul leaned over the scorer’s table with a smirk.

“It’s like they got a phone call at halftime,” Paul said of the referees. “And they said, ‘Let them boys win.’”

http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=95488

[austinlakepirate]

losers make excuses, champions take responsibility.



According to Dan Patrick, Chris Paul said something at the scorers table last night about the refs letting the Spurs win.

I don't know the exact statement, but CP3 apparently said, "Its like they got a call at halftime saying let those guys win." To me it means he was saying that the league call the refs at halftime and told them to give the calls to the Spurs and let them win.

What's your reaction?

[Obstructed_View]

I'm shocked that the officials suddenly started calling the offensive fouls Chris Paul commits as much as he is.

[SAGambler]

I can't blame him for thinking he was jobbed. I mean, for 5 1/2 games he was allowed to throw himself into the defender and knock him backwards on his way to the basket... he probably thought that was legal. Suddenly, 264 minutes into the series, the refs start making calls that follow the rules of basketball and it takes him out of his game.

Hopefully he gets similarly jobbed in Game 7. I cannot believe it took that long for him to get a f'ing offensive foul called on him. Of course, that's one of the drawbacks cheering for a team who rarely ever complains about calls after the game... most other coaches would have called CF3 out after Game 1 or 2 and drawn more attention to his bullshit.

That could well be that the Spurs told the NBA to watch the film and see how many times he manages to do it and not be called for it. That could have been one of the things on the "watch list" for the refs last night.

If nothing else, this should create some doubt in Pauls mind as to whether he will be called for it or not, and it might put an end to his use of the off arm to clear space in game 7.

[Obstructed_View]

That could well be that the Spurs told the NBA to watch the film and see how many times he manages to do it and not be called for it. That could have been one of the things on the "watch list" for the refs last night.

If nothing else, this should create some doubt in Pauls mind as to whether he will be called for it or not, and it might put an end to his use of the off arm to clear space in game 7.

If Chandler starts getting called in game seven for moving screens, I'll believe it.

[Jimcs50]

I think a fine is eminent

[Obstructed_View]

I think a fine is imminent

If he didn't even get a fine for punching Bowen in the balls, he'll absolutely skate on this.

[Spurminator]

There's no way he's fined. Unless it was caught on game film, it's hearsay; and even if it was caught on film, he said it during a game, not to the media.

He shouldn't be fined. But I do hope NBA officials hear about it.

[TDMVPDPOY]

seriously if dont win game 7, i seriously hope one of our boyz get send him a message heading into the wcf...fokn wanker who needs excuses.

[Obstructed_View]

He shouldn't be fined. But I do hope NBA officials hear about it.

Like the Spurs are going to get calls in New Orleans. Five whistles against West and CP3 in a couple of minutes? There'd be a riot.

[Jimcs50]

There's no way he's fined. Unless it was caught on game film, it's hearsay; and even if it was caught on film, he said it during a game, not to the media.

He shouldn't be fined. But I do hope NBA officials hear about it.


Stern will not be happy. CP3 is basically saying that the League is fixed, and after last years debacle with Donaghy, Stern will have little patience with any player spouting an infelicitous remark on the subject.

[MadDog73]

seriously if dont win game 7, i seriously hope one of our boyz get send him a message heading into the wcf...fokn wanker who needs excuses.

No, no, no.

If the Spurs don't win, the Hornets HAVE to beat the Lakers.

I cannot handle Kobe getting Finals MVP with another Ring, and Phil Jackson being Sauron the Ringmaster.

[Jimcs50]

No, no, no.

If the Spurs don't win, the Hornets HAVE to beat the Lakers.

I cannot handle Kobe getting Finals MVP with another Ring, and Phil Jackson being Sauron the Ringmaster.

I like the Jazz moving on, actually.

[polandprzem]

And they (the fans) starting the * issue

What a bullshit man.
We got some favorable calls in the third, but that was not something that was out of cammon practice

[Jimcs50]

And they (the fans) starting the * issue

What a bullshit man.
We got some favorable calls in the third, but that was not something that was out of cammon practice

of those 4 fouls, only the 1st one on West was questionable.

tough shit...it is not like the Spurs did not get assfucked in game 5 in the 3rd Q. Calls even out over a 7 game series.

[1Parker1]

:lmao He's not going to get fined. He didn't say it in his postgame interviews, he said it during the game and to no one in particular. I'm sure a lot of players say a lot of things in the heat of the moment in a game.

I do agree that it's about time those offensive calls were called on him. He does it every single time. However, I don't expect them to be called in Game 7. So if the Spurs are relying on the refs to help them, they're due for a long night.

[pbandjnocrust]

Calls even out over a 7 game series.

I think that's the problem. The calls should even out over the course of a game, not a series.

[vander]

If cp3 is really throwing his shoulder and elbow into defenders every time, why can't the defenders just "pull the chair" on him. anticipate the contact and evade it, throwing off his shot. then the next time, stand your ground and knock him back, and the next time flop. if he is dependent on contact from your body, use that against him

:reading

[Jimcs50]

:lmao He's not going to get fined. He didn't say it in his postgame interviews, he said it during the game and to no one in particular. I'm sure a lot of players say a lot of things in the heat of the moment in a game.

I do agree that it's about time those offensive calls were called on him. He does it every single time. However, I don't expect them to be called in Game 7. So if the Spurs are relying on the refs to help them, they're due for a long night.


If this was being publically talked about on a nationally syndicated radio show(Patrick), then Stern will know about it, and he will do something about it.

[JohnnySixString]

I'm thinking he's gonna punch someone's nutsack in game 7 if he doesn't get the calls. Hopefully it'll be one of the refs.

[Heath Ledger]

Did he really think they were going to beat the Spurs on their homecourt? Only the Pistons can win on the road this year...

[DarrinS]

I loved the play in the first have when he touched shoes with Tony and took a dive.


I'm really starting to dislike CP3 the more I watch him play.

[boutons_]

Paul will be getting a call from the League.

Impugning the refs and the NBA will get a fine.

[TampaDude]

Paul will be getting a call from the League.

Impugning the refs and the NBA will get a fine.

Too bad they couldn't suspend him for Game 7...but, nah...then there would be a gigantic * on this series if (when) the Spurs won it.

[RandomGuy]

I can't blame him for thinking he was jobbed. I mean, for 5 1/2 games he was allowed to throw himself into the defender and knock him backwards on his way to the basket... he probably thought that was legal. Suddenly, 264 minutes into the series, the refs start making calls that follow the rules of basketball and it takes him out of his game.

Hopefully he gets similarly jobbed in Game 7. I cannot believe it took that long for him to get a f'ing offensive foul called on him. Of course, that's one of the drawbacks cheering for a team who rarely ever complains about calls after the game... most other coaches would have called CF3 out after Game 1 or 2 and drawn more attention to his bullshit.


Correct me if I am wrong here, but the refs review every game to see if they miss stuff, or called something wrong, and do after action reports.

The refs might have missed a good chunk of it earlier, or let some stuff slide, but they will catch consistant patterns eventually.

It seemed to me that the spurs were getting mugged in the first few games, and that the refs have tried to clamp down on that a bit, from both sides.

Ah well. We'll see about game 7.

[MoSpur]

He had been getting away with pushing off all series long. Game seven will be a game where the refs are going to let them play in the fourth quarter. The refs will swallow their whistles and let them play.

[1Parker1]

Did Josh Howard get fined by the league for his comments a couple weeks ago?



If this was being publically talked about on a nationally syndicated radio show(Patrick), then Stern will know about it, and he will do something about it.

It's not like CP3 actually went on the Dan Patrick show and said this...

Players say a lot worse during the course of the game, I don't get why this is such a scandalous thing as many people are making it.

Yes it was DA comment made by CP3, but I'm sure DUncan and Parker said worse in NO during Game 5 when all those calls weren't going their way. Difference is, no one in the media relayed those comments in their articles. :lol

[smeagol]

Pussy

[spurschick]

Let's face it, the refs have become the third team on the court and the players and coaches have to learn to adjust to how they call the game. It sucks that they can play such a huge role in the outcome, but it doesn't look like that is going to change. Both the Spurs and Hornets would do well to just play their game and hold their heads high that they did the best they could, regardless of the end result.

[MoSpur]

I don't care about whether he is fined or whatever. I was curious if he would be. However, I started the thread because I can't stand this guy. Everyone makes him out to be a darling. He's a punk and I want the Spurs to kick his butt out of the playoffs.

[Agloco]

I can't blame him for thinking he was jobbed. I mean, for 5 1/2 games he was allowed to throw himself into the defender and knock him backwards on his way to the basket... he probably thought that was legal. Suddenly, 264 minutes into the series, the refs start making calls that follow the rules of basketball and it takes him out of his game.

Hopefully he gets similarly jobbed in Game 7. I cannot believe it took that long for him to get a f'ing offensive foul called on him. Of course, that's one of the drawbacks cheering for a team who rarely ever complains about calls after the game... most other coaches would have called CF3 out after Game 1 or 2 and drawn more attention to his bullshit.


Thanks for pointing this out. No doubt CP3 and the Hornets bigs have been getting away with strange shit all series long (moving picks, CP3 throwing himself into people, etc, etc)

Perhaps the refs continue to call things correctly. It's gonna be a battle either way.

[Budkin]

Just the fact that the refs change so much from venue to venue is insane... the home team usually gets the calls. It's just the way it is, but it sucks. Don't think we won't get a lot of crappy calls on Monday.

[2easy]

I'm shocked that the officials suddenly started calling the offensive fouls Chris Paul commits as much as he is.

Parker does the exact same thing

[Spurminator]

No he doesn't.

[2easy]

No he doesn't.


Oh, thats right, he's a Spur so he does no wrong. My apologies.

[DarrinS]

Let's face it, the refs have become the third team on the court and the players and coaches have to learn to adjust to how they call the game. It sucks that they can play such a huge role in the outcome, but it doesn't look like that is going to change. Both the Spurs and Hornets would do well to just play their game and hold their heads high that they did the best they could, regardless of the end result.


You're right and that's one lucky bobble-head you've got there.

[Bartleby]

Oh, thats right, he's a Spur so he does no wrong. My apologies.

If you want full credit you have to show your work. You made the assertion. Now back it up.

[Spurminator]

Oh, thats right, he's a Spur so he does no wrong. My apologies.


No it's my bad, I forgot Hornets Fans are allowed to just make shit up.

[2easy]

If you want full credit you have to show your work. You made the assertion. Now back it up.

Its called watching the game.

[Spurminator]

Well this is a very convincing argument you're putting forth.

[Avitus1]

Well at least he's got an excuse.

[2easy]

Well this is a very convincing argument you're putting forth.

When Parker drives he'll cover the ball and lower his shoulder, just like Paul does sometimes, just like every small guy in the league does. I dont understand what you want. Do you want me to call the NBA and get game footage or something.

[Bartleby]

When Parker drives he'll cover the ball and lower his shoulder, just like Paul does sometimes, just like every small guy in the league does. I dont understand what you want. Do you want me to call the NBA and get game footage or something.

There's no shortage on Youtube. Let's see all those examples of Parker clearing out and pushing off defenders.

[Spurminator]

Paul lowers his shoulder and shoves the opponent off of him with his off elbow. I don't understand how you can't see the difference after six games.

[phxspurfan]

I think Tony Parker had just as much reason to complain when the refs decided to start calling traveling on him a couple times out of nowhere. From game to game, the refs have not been very consistent with their strategies, and I think that's also a big reason why homecourt advatage has been so big in these playoffs.

[2easy]

Come Tuesday it wont matter anyway because i'll be on a Lakers/Jazz board. Watching the Spurs is like watching a soccer game with all the flopping and cheapshots. The Spurs will get what they deserve in N.O. I hope Cheap Shot Horry gets his knees broken. And as for Spurs fans, i finally realize why everyone in the league hates y'all, chanting "Horry" while West is laying on the court. Stay classy San Antonio. Im out.

[BonnerDynasty]

Stay classy?

Why?

[SpursWoman]

:cry

[Frankster]

It's not just a lowering of the shoulder that Paul does. He physically pushes his defender away with his off hand. That's some shit you see 4th graders do.

[gmartin02]

of those 4 fouls, only the 1st one on West was questionable.

tough shit...it is not like the Spurs did not get assfucked in game 5 in the 3rd Q. Calls even out over a 7 game series. I agree with the first part (the last 3 were fouls - West was just being a crybaby).

Looks to me like the Hornets finally started getting the playoff jitters last night - they were freezing up in the second half, not playing their normal game.

Thanks Spurs for taking this series to 7, so if the Lakers can actually win their series (which they probably will if Kobe is relatively healthy) the eventual opponent (either Spurs or Hornets) won't get as much rest.