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duncan228
05-20-2008, 03:47 PM
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writers/steve_aschburner/05/20/spurs/index.html

Working up some hate for Spurs
Steve Aschburner

Them again.

The San Antonio Spurs again.

Are we having fun yet?

Other teams win preliminary-round playoff series, but the Spurs simply advance, methodically, relentlessly and even predictably, like Russia pushing into Chechnya. The NBA's blackshirts have become its brownshirts -- OK, so we're mixing military metaphors here -- marching in lock-step in the conviction that their way is the best way, seemingly the only way.

With a defense that changes games more effectively (but far less sexily) than most teams' offenses, the Spurs are stomping toward their fifth championship in a decade. For the fourth time in the past six years, they have made it to the Western Conference championship series, and their record in the first three -- the three won with the current core of Tim Duncan, Manu Ginobili and Tony Parker -- is a breezy 12-4. The Spurs rarely lose conference finals and never lose NBA Finals, dominating this part of the calendar the way Santa controls December and the IRS owns half of April.

In terms of excitement, enjoyment and entertainment, though, they are a lot closer to the latter than the former. San Antonio is the Green Bay power sweep in a league that sells Air Coryell. It is Tiger Woods minus the nickname and half again as corporate. It is Gandhi pushing aside E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial, Tootsie and The Verdict as Best Picture, a film to be admired more than a movie to munch popcorn to. Not great for DVD sales, either, to watch again and again because, with the Spurs, seeing one of their championships feels like seeing them all.

But wait, there's more: The Spurs lately have mixed some unlikability into their formula. In their pursuit of excellence, they have the smell of the New England Patriots, sans camcorder, about them. No stone unturned, no element left to chance, no rule unbent right up to the point of breaking. They let Stu Jackson and David Stern sort it all out in the league office, while taking a "If you don't get a ticket, then you weren't speeding" approach.

For years, Bruce Bowen was San Antonio's lightning rod, a "defensive specialist'' to those rooting for him and his team but a knobby-kneed kickboxer to those rooting or playing against them. Bowen's knack for kicking, tripping, stepping on or otherwise clandestinely punishing the other guys' best players has been his brand, you might say, since he joined the Spurs seven years ago. Celtics guard Ray Allen, who might face Bowen's crafty/clumsy pestering again if Boston and San Antonio both advance, called that brand dirty -- "coward's basketball'' -- after a 2006 game in which Bowen kicked him in the back.

More recently, it has been Robert Horry, "Big Shot Bob'' getting a makeover in late career from some critics as "Cheap Shot Bob'' after his second shady incident in two postseasons. In 2007, he hip-checked Phoenix's Steve Nash into the scorer's table, sparking an emotional sequence that earned the Suns' Amaré Stoudemire and Boris Diaw one-game suspensions and might have lost the second-round series for their team. This time, in Game 6 against New Orleans, there was Horry forcefully bracing himself into David West's back, leaving the Hornets' power forward writhing face-down on the court after the hit aggravated the pinched nerve in West's back.

"It was a regular back-pick,'' Horry said a day later, in an explanation that would have been more credible if he hadn't claimed to know nothing of West's aching back prior to their collision; the Spurs prepare too thoroughly for their opponents for anyone to believe that.

Besides, it wasn't the impact itself -- West played more than 46 minutes in Game 7 on Monday, scoring 20 points with nine rebounds -- as much as the image at that moment: There the Spurs go again, doing whatever it takes to get whatever they want, imposing their will and their way oppressively on one of the league's happier stories of this season, the precocious Hornets and a franchise's rebirth in New Orleans.

San Antonio coach Gregg Popovich played with the outrage, sarcastically admitting that his club might be the "dirtiest team in the NBA.'' Said Popovich: "I just think it's typical of where we live. This is our country. We're sensationalistic, we look for things, we have to have stories.''

The rest of the Spurs' roster is more irritating to critics than illegal. For at least four more games, and as many as 14, we get to see Duncan time and again knotting up the basketball in his forearms while bugging out his eyes, incredulous that some referee blew the whistle on him. Wilt Chamberlain holds the record for most career NBA games (1,045) without fouling out, but based on theatrics alone, Duncan owns the mark for most games without committing a foul, period.

Ginobili has worn the fur on the back of his head thin from rubbing it on the hardwood, the inevitable follicular toll from all that flopping. With Parker, it's more that wife of his, the Mrs. Omar Moreno (circa 1979 World Series overexposure) of the new millennium. With so much of the NBA postseason carried on ESPN and ABC, plunking a desperate housewife front and center as if she were Jack Nicholson or Spike Lee feels like another callow opportunity for marketing (cough) synergy.

Michael Finley is annoying for his double-dipping; by drawing paychecks from both the Spurs and the Mavericks worth a total of $21.7 million, the aging role player was paid nearly as much as Chris Paul, Tyson Chandler and West combined ($24.3 million). As for Popovich, he looks like the father of every guy's first girlfriend, Mr. Tough As Nails there to force small talk when you pick her up and, worse, waiting when you drop her off.

Oh, and let's not forget the Spurs' fans, or at least the ones who reacted to Horry's shot on West by cheering and chanting the veteran forward's name. Aren't they supposed to be better than that? As a group, the folks in San Antonio have had it good way beyond their numbers with those four Larry O'Brien trophies; the fans of 16 of the NBA's 30 current teams haven't had even one championship to cheer. At this point, it's like passing through Hershey, Pa. Before the first local opens his mouth, you want to preemptively shout: "Yeah, I get it! You make chocolate here! Get over ourselves!''

Worst of all, the Spurs really don't let you scratch your schadenfreude itch. They are, by and large, swell guys to be around off the court, even to the cranky, bored and hungry-for-change media. They are smart and experienced and coolly efficient, so far in these playoffs dispatching two recent Coach of the Year winners (Mike D'Antoni, Byron Scott), a two-time MVP (Nash) and this year's runner-up for the award (Paul). Now they have Phil Jackson and Kobe Bryant in their crosshairs, respectively the 1996 and 2008 winners of those two awards.

The Spurs stay off the police blotters, away from bankruptcy court and generally out of the gossip columns, with Popovich and general manager R.C. Buford ready to make, er, corrections to the roster if that changes. They are a "Just win, baby'' operation without the leather jackets, the greaser's haircut or the snarl, and all of their gamesmanship still can't undermine a franchise image established by St. David Robinson.

In short, San Antonio is a team you might hate to love, yet not quite one of those you can love to hate. Now that's irritating.

smeagol
05-20-2008, 04:00 PM
Lame

1Parker1
05-20-2008, 04:04 PM
As for Popovich, he looks like the father of every guy's first girlfriend, Mr. Tough As Nails there to force small talk when you pick her up and, worse, waiting when you drop her off.

:lmao That's actually pretty accurate.

spurs_fan_in_exile
05-20-2008, 04:06 PM
Finally something resembling fresh smack from the haters. Manu went bald from flopping! The rest of the article is a waste of time, but hey, that one line is almost original. Keep up the good work national media!

CubanMustGo
05-20-2008, 04:08 PM
What a fucking loser. With a name like that is he a Celtic suckup?

Spurminator
05-20-2008, 04:09 PM
The Spurs are as predictable and boring as the articles that are written about them by lazy writers.

nkdlunch
05-20-2008, 04:11 PM
the definition of writing to this guy is: grab all the shit you've read in the past few days, mash it all up together and put your name at the bottom.

TampaDude
05-20-2008, 04:13 PM
When people really start to hate you, then you know you're a dynasty. :toast

Johnny RIngo
05-20-2008, 04:15 PM
This guy sounds like a second-rate Bill Simmons(not a good thing). Hell, even the title for his article is stolen from a recent Simmons piece. You know a writer's bad when he's stealing frat-boy style journalism from the most popular hack in the country.

R.I.P. Sports Journalism

Can't wait till every media outlet in the country is overrun by snarky bloggers.

beachwood
05-20-2008, 04:15 PM
we get to see Duncan time and again knotting up the basketball in his forearms while bugging out his eyes, incredulous that some referee blew the whistle on him. .

Hell yeah.

xtremesteven33
05-20-2008, 04:16 PM
and these sports idiots wonder why journalism is on the decline.

WildcardManu
05-20-2008, 04:16 PM
Who drank all the haterade?

PDXSpursFan
05-20-2008, 04:17 PM
"The Spurs rarely lose conference finals and never lose NBA Finals, dominating this part of the calendar the way Santa controls December and the IRS owns half of April."

Good analogy :lol

WildcardManu
05-20-2008, 04:19 PM
This guy is obviously bitter like woody paige, because they feel the NBA's feel good story (Hornets) got eliminated.

duncan228
05-20-2008, 04:20 PM
Never let it be said that I post only pro Spurs articles. :)

Nego
05-20-2008, 04:21 PM
When people really start to hate you, then you know you're a dynasty. :toast

just like the Lakers, and Boston of the 80's... the NE Patriots of today... and more importantly...the world's most Dynastic hamburger... the Bacon and Cheese Whataburger...:lol

Allanon
05-20-2008, 04:22 PM
A well written article...I think he's actually saying he admires the Spurs.

easjer
05-20-2008, 04:33 PM
Some good one liners, and a fairly accurate description of how an actual basketball fan (who is not a Spurs fan) feels about them. You can't quite hate them, but you'd sure love to.

EVAY
05-20-2008, 04:34 PM
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writers/steve_aschburner/05/20/spurs/index.html

Working up some hate for Spurs
Steve Aschburn

The San Antonio Spurs again.







Worst of all, the Spurs really don't let you scratch your schadenfreude itch. They are, by and large, swell guys to be around off the court, even to the cranky, bored and hungry-for-change media. They are smart and experienced

The Spurs stay off the police blotters, away from bankruptcy court and generally out of the gossip columns, with Popovich and general manager R.C. Buford ready to make, er, corrections to the roster if that changes. They are a "Just win, baby'' operation without the leather jackets, the greaser's haircut or the snarl, and all of their gamesmanship still can't undermine a franchise image established by St. David Robinson.

In short, San Antonio is a team you might hate to love, yet not quite one of those you can love to hate. Now that's irritating.

WOW. The only lines that were not pathologically vitriolic in that entire tirade are the ones left in the quote.

The sports media in the U.S. has had a serious problem with the Spurs for years, for precisely the reasons listed above. The Spurs do NOT make EASY sports-reporting news. They do not provide tabloid fodder for the under-educated basketball reporters who would much prefer to follow a non-sports story ( e.g., police-blotter stuff, hollywood stuff, etc.). In order to appreciate the Spurs, one has to understand the game, like the execution of the game, including defense, and KNOW HOW TO COMMUNICATE that understanding and appreciation to the less-knowledgeable public. That means that more work is required than most reporters are historically willing or capable of undertaking.

So what does the media want? They purport to want a matchup between the Lakers and Celtics based on.. (wait for it)...HISTORY!! That's right...let's tell people how much they are going to want to watch two teams who USED to be great in prior decades play each other with a different group of team members than they had in the past and which most of the TV and/or basketball demographic knows NOTHING ABOUT!!

The media wants a different story because they don't know how to write about this one (the Spurs) anymore.

This would be pathetic if the level of vitriol weren't so intense. And the last line or two, quoted above, is the equivalent of a slur being followed with " hey, I was just joking, fella".

timmo
05-20-2008, 04:39 PM
I can't believe I wasted a couple of minutes of my life reading that drivel.

ATXSPUR
05-20-2008, 04:39 PM
I thought this article obviously indicates he actually likes the Spurs on the inside.

IceColdBrewski
05-20-2008, 04:48 PM
A well written article...I think he's actually saying he admires the Spurs.

That's what I got out of it as well. Hell, I thought it was funny.

NRHector
05-20-2008, 05:07 PM
I thought the fucken media were the ones calling the Spurs "soft":lol

mrspurs
05-20-2008, 05:26 PM
i bet this guy and buck harvey are related..........go spurs go

Medvedenko
05-20-2008, 05:27 PM
Pretty lame article really....

PlayoffEx-static
05-20-2008, 05:36 PM
Aschburner used to cover the T'Wolves so you KNOW his ass is bitter about the Spurs.

wildbill2u
05-20-2008, 05:49 PM
Ya gotta admit that we played ugly and still won this series. Hard to write superlatives about the winning team when the All-Time Power Forward shoots 5-17 and gets played by Tyson Chandler, Ginobilli spends most of his time looking for the ball he's just lost or making a stupid foul, and Tony disappears from the lane.

Readers don't want to read about nuances of coaching, defense, and a few 3s dropping for role players. No drama. No pizazz.

DDS4
05-20-2008, 05:55 PM
Aschburner used to cover the T'Wolves so you KNOW his ass is bitter about the Spurs.

13 years too...I'd definitely be bitter.

byrontx
05-20-2008, 06:49 PM
Aschburner... German for Assburner. He just trying to give Spurs fans some red-ass.

SPARKY
05-20-2008, 06:55 PM
Bring it on.

4 in the bank and on the brink of #5. Smoke the silver & black pole.

manufor3
05-20-2008, 06:59 PM
the definition of writing to this guy is: grab all the shit you've read in the past few days, mash it all up together and put your name at the bottom.

:lol

+1

GrandeDavid
05-20-2008, 07:02 PM
Lame article and dude shouldn't hate on Finley for "double dipping" (gay metaphor). This loser should be giving him props for getting paid at Cuban's stupidity.

Anti.Hero
05-20-2008, 07:08 PM
7TQN-9N603g

Embrace the hate.

Sasha
05-21-2008, 12:51 AM
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writers/steve_aschburner/05/20/spurs/index.html

The Spurs rarely lose conference finals and never lose NBA Finals, dominating this part of the calendar the way Santa controls December and the IRS owns half of April.

In terms of excitement, enjoyment and entertainment, though, they are a lot closer to the latter than the former. San Antonio is the Green Bay power sweep in a league that sells Air Coryell. It is Tiger Woods minus the nickname and half again as corporate. It is Gandhi pushing aside E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial, Tootsie and The Verdict as Best Picture, a film to be admired more than a movie to munch popcorn to. Not great for DVD sales, either, to watch again and again because, with the Spurs, seeing one of their championships feels like seeing them all.

But wait, there's more: The Spurs lately have mixed some unlikability into their formula. In their pursuit of excellence, they have the smell of the New England Patriots, sans camcorder, about them. No stone unturned, no element left to chance, no rule unbent right up to the point of breaking. They let Stu Jackson and David Stern sort it all out in the league office, while taking a "If you don't get a ticket, then you weren't speeding" approach.

For years, Bruce Bowen was San Antonio's lightning rod, a "defensive specialist'' to those rooting for him and his team but a knobby-kneed kickboxer to those rooting or playing against them. Bowen's knack for kicking, tripping, stepping on or otherwise clandestinely punishing the other guys' best players has been his brand, you might say, since he joined the Spurs seven years ago. Celtics guard Ray Allen, who might face Bowen's crafty/clumsy pestering again if Boston and San Antonio both advance, called that brand dirty -- "coward's basketball'' -- after a 2006 game in which Bowen kicked him in the back.

More recently, it has been Robert Horry, "Big Shot Bob'' getting a makeover in late career from some critics as "Cheap Shot Bob'' after his second shady incident in two postseasons. In 2007, he hip-checked Phoenix's Steve Nash into the scorer's table, sparking an emotional sequence that earned the Suns' Amaré Stoudemire and Boris Diaw one-game suspensions and might have lost the second-round series for their team. This time, in Game 6 against New Orleans, there was Horry forcefully bracing himself into David West's back, leaving the Hornets' power forward writhing face-down on the court after the hit aggravated the pinched nerve in West's back.

"It was a regular back-pick,'' Horry said a day later, in an explanation that would have been more credible if he hadn't claimed to know nothing of West's aching back prior to their collision; the Spurs prepare too thoroughly for their opponents for anyone to believe that.

Besides, it wasn't the impact itself -- West played more than 46 minutes in Game 7 on Monday, scoring 20 points with nine rebounds -- as much as the image at that moment: There the Spurs go again, doing whatever it takes to get whatever they want, imposing their will and their way oppressively on one of the league's happier stories of this season, the precocious Hornets and a franchise's rebirth in New Orleans.

San Antonio coach Gregg Popovich played with the outrage, sarcastically admitting that his club might be the "dirtiest team in the NBA.'' Said Popovich: "I just think it's typical of where we live. This is our country. We're sensationalistic, we look for things, we have to have stories.''

The rest of the Spurs' roster is more irritating to critics than illegal. For at least four more games, and as many as 14, we get to see Duncan time and again knotting up the basketball in his forearms while bugging out his eyes, incredulous that some referee blew the whistle on him. Wilt Chamberlain holds the record for most career NBA games (1,045) without fouling out, but based on theatrics alone, Duncan owns the mark for most games without committing a foul, period.

Ginobili has worn the fur on the back of his head thin from rubbing it on the hardwood, the inevitable follicular toll from all that flopping. With Parker, it's more that wife of his, the Mrs. Omar Moreno (circa 1979 World Series overexposure) of the new millennium. With so much of the NBA postseason carried on ESPN and ABC, plunking a desperate housewife front and center as if she were Jack Nicholson or Spike Lee feels like another callow opportunity for marketing (cough) synergy.

Michael Finley is annoying for his double-dipping; by drawing paychecks from both the Spurs and the Mavericks worth a total of $21.7 million, the aging role player was paid nearly as much as Chris Paul, Tyson Chandler and West combined ($24.3 million). As for Popovich, he looks like the father of every guy's first girlfriend, Mr. Tough As Nails there to force small talk when you pick her up and, worse, waiting when you drop her off.

Oh, and let's not forget the Spurs' fans, or at least the ones who reacted to Horry's shot on West by cheering and chanting the veteran forward's name. Aren't they supposed to be better than that? As a group, the folks in San Antonio have had it good way beyond their numbers with those four Larry O'Brien trophies; the fans of 16 of the NBA's 30 current teams haven't had even one championship to cheer. At this point, it's like passing through Hershey, Pa. Before the first local opens his mouth, you want to preemptively shout: "Yeah, I get it! You make chocolate here! Get over ourselves!''

In short, San Antonio is a team you might hate to love, yet not quite one of those you can love to hate. Now that's irritating.


Who the hell is this idiot? Does he actually get paid to write this shit? This kind of jealousy is painful to read!

Princess Pimp
05-21-2008, 01:04 AM
Very truthful article, Thanks "I-have-no-life-I-only-spend-my-time-looking-for-articles" for bringing this piece of art