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duncan228
05-20-2008, 08:04 PM
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writers/marty_burns/05/20/spurs.lakers/?eref=sircrc

Spurs-Lakers series breakdown
Marty Burns

No. 3 Spurs vs. No. 1 Lakers
Season Series: Tied 2-2

• Nov. 13 -- Spurs 107, Lakers 92: Tony Parker had 26 points and nine assists as the host Spurs overcame an off night by Tim Duncan (five points, five boards) to roll to the early-season victory. Bruce Bowen added 23 points for San Antonio, which hit 13-of-27 from three-point range. Kobe Bryant led Los Angeles with 18 points.

• Dec. 13 -- Lakers 102, Spurs 97: The Lakers took advantage of the absences of the injured Duncan and Parker to win in L.A. Bryant had 30 points and seven assists, and Lamar Odom added 15 points and eight boards. Bowen's 22 points paced the Spurs.

• Jan. 23 -- Spurs 103, Lakers 91: Duncan had 28 points and 17 rebounds as the Spurs rallied from a nine-point halftime deficit for the home victory. Ime Udoka added a season-high 18 points, and Manu Ginobili contributed 12 points and eight steals. Kobe had 29 points and 12 boards.

• April 13 -- Lakers 106, Spurs 85: In the only meeting after the Pau Gasol trade, Kobe scored 20 points in three quarters before sitting for good as the Lakers cruised past the Ginobili-less Spurs in L.A. Gasol added 14 points and 11 boards for the Lakers. Duncan finished with 16 and 12.

The Skinny: The NBA's two most dominant teams of the decade meet in the postseason for the sixth time in 10 years, this time for the Western Conference title. The Lakers, winners of NBA crowns in 2000, '01 and '02, are making their first trip to the Western finals since 2004. The Spurs, champions in '99, '03, '05 and '07, are back on this stage for the fourth time in six years.

The series pits Lakers superstar and MVP Bryant against Duncan and a Spurs team seeking to repeat as NBA champs for the first time in franchise history. Both stars get help from two All-Star-caliber teammates (Gasol, Odom for the Lakers; Parker, Ginobili for the Spurs), as well as supporting players who know their roles. San Antonio and L.A. are also well-coached, solid defensive clubs that seldom beat themselves.

Both teams enter the series riding high. The Lakers are an NBA-best 8-2 in the postseason, sweeping the Nuggets in the first round before eliminating the Jazz in six games in Round 2. The Spurs (8-4) needed five games to get past the Suns in the first round and seven to escape the Hornets in the conference semis. They showed their championship mettle in claiming a decisive Game 7 in New Orleans.

With both teams boasting first-rate trios, the series could come down to the role players. L.A.'s cast, led by Derek Fisher, Vladimir Radmanovic and the Bench Mob (see below), is for the most part younger and quicker than San Antonio's collection of Bowen, Michael Finley, Fabricio Oberto, Robert Horry and Kurt Thomas. The Lakers' group should be able to bring more firepower and energy, though several still have to prove they can make shots when it counts. The Spurs don't have that problem. But the Lakers' ability to get scoring from more players, their length around the basket and the home-court advantage give them three reasons (along with Kobe) to feel good about their chances -- at least on paper.

Key Matchup: Duncan vs. Gasol

Though Parker and/or Ginobili often carry the load, Duncan is still the main cog for the Spurs. His ability to draw double teams in the low post and lure defenders out on the pick-and-roll is what enables those other two to do their thing. Duncan also remains the anchor for San Antonio's defense. But Duncan struggled offensively against the Hornets (15.3 points on 42.1 percent shooting) in the last series and was outplayed in several games by David West. It looks as if the two-time MVP might be losing steam after battling the likes of Amar้ Stoudemire, Shaquille O'Neal and West over the last two rounds.

Duncan will need to pick it up against Gasol, who has blended seamlessly into L.A.'s attack with his passing and shooting skills. The 7-foot Spaniard also has become a big factor defensively, joining with the 6-10 Odom to give the Lakers two long-armed defenders to protect the rim. The Spurs will try to use Duncan's strength to his advantage, and perhaps put Gasol and Odom in foul trouble. Gasol doesn't have to win this matchup, but if he can just stay on the floor and keep Duncan from going crazy, it should be enough for the Lakers.

X-Factor for Spurs: Parker

After going up against Chris Paul in the last series, Parker should feel like a cat that's been let out of its cage. A devastating finisher, Parker will use his quickness against the 33-year-old Fisher to get into the paint and create offense. But can he make enough shots inside against all those long Lakers defenders? If Parker doesn't have a huge series, either with points or assists, the Spurs will be in trouble.

X-Factor for Lakers: Bench Mob

Luke Walton, Sasha Vujacic, Ronny Turiaf and Jordan Farmar might not be household names, but they have played a significant role in the Lakers' success this season. With the Spurs' supporting cast looking old and slow, they have an opportunity to come in and make a huge impact with their younger legs and energy. They also could get a boost from the return of Trevor Ariza, who has been out since January with a foot injury.

The Pick: It's always tough to go against the Spurs and their Big Three. But Duncan appears to be wearing down, and the supporting cast has lost a step. Kobe and Phil Jackson will find a way to exploit it.

Lakers in six.

T Park
05-20-2008, 08:05 PM
You can pretty much throw out all the regular season games between these two teams.

They are pretty much starting from scratch.

mrspurs
05-20-2008, 08:28 PM
lakers are going down....one play at a time....go spurs go

CubanMustGo
05-20-2008, 08:30 PM
Considering that hatchet job article from the other SI writer (the one about developing hate for SA), this comes as no surprise.

aka_USAPA
05-20-2008, 08:42 PM
Why wouldn't they pick the Lakers when the Lakers finished #1 in the West, and are 8-2 in the post season compared to the Spurs who are 8-4?

Mr. Body
05-20-2008, 08:45 PM
I see Manu Ginobili has left the team.

ShoogarBear
05-20-2008, 08:46 PM
Are you seriously trying to compare the Lakers' postseason competition to whom the Spurs played?

Magic_Johnson
05-20-2008, 08:47 PM
Why wouldn't they pick the Lakers when the Lakers finished #1 in the West, and are 8-2 in the post season compared to the Spurs who are 8-4?

8-2 against denver,utah << 8-4 against phoenix, NO

NO LIMIT ARMY COMMANDER
05-20-2008, 08:50 PM
This'll be the 3rd series in a row that the Spurs lost before the 1st tipoff.

E20
05-20-2008, 08:52 PM
Kenny Smith's predicition:
http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/player/popup/index.php?cl=789051

(Pop-up video from Yahoo! Sports)

Also addresses the Pau trade, Spurs status, fatigue.

MONTENEGRINO
05-20-2008, 08:54 PM
I also predicted 4-2 ... but for Spurs :D
Timmy will go crazy, don't worry.

dbreiden83080
05-20-2008, 09:14 PM
I see Manu Ginobili has left the team.

I was thinking the same thing. Who is checking him exactly and if he has a big series that makes what Kobe is going to do not nearly as effective.

DazedAndConfused
05-20-2008, 10:14 PM
Ginobli doesn't worry me. He shot well from 3pt land but did little else in that NOH series. I think his ankle is still limiting him. We have Kobe Bryant and Trevor Ariza to throw at him if he gets hot. Considering he was guarded by Peja and Mo-Pete and could only hit 3pters I'm not too worried.

I worry about Parker. He will be the one guy on the Spurs we can't keep up with. His footspeed is just on a whole other level compared to Iverson and Deron Williams.

jrmp317
05-20-2008, 10:22 PM
Gasol can't check Duncan, never has been able to and never will be able to. Who is going to stop TD on the Lakers squad?

td4mvp21
05-20-2008, 10:26 PM
Regular season games tell us nothing. Both teams were missing key players in all of them.

Mr. Body
05-20-2008, 11:05 PM
Ginobli doesn't worry me. He shot well from 3pt land but did little else in that NOH series. I think his ankle is still limiting him. We have Kobe Bryant and Trevor Ariza to throw at him if he gets hot. Considering he was guarded by Peja and Mo-Pete and could only hit 3pters I'm not too worried.

Ginobili might have had the quietest 10/20 on 3s in the last two games ever. He had a stats-rich series, but nothing to knock your socks off, and is an afterthought at the moment. I'd be surprised if that didn't change.

The big difference between NO and the Lakes is interior defense. The Hornets packed the lane pretty hard. Maybe Phil does that, too, but he doesn't have any shot-blockers. I'd love for Kobe to guard Manu for a while to get him tired. And since when is Ariza 1) healthy, and 2) suddenly a prime defender, and 3) not a complete liability on offense?

Brutalis
05-20-2008, 11:13 PM
I cannot blame the 'experts' picking LA, and this article as well. They have been playing well since the Gasol heist and TD has slowed down a bit in the semi finals.

Questions remain to be answered in this series, was NOH that good? Or were we truly more slug than usual? Or, was Chandler holding Duncan that good, or is Tim lacking in the finesse department?

Therefor I do not blame them. There is reason to doubt so they do the most they can, they always have right?

tmtcsc
05-20-2008, 11:20 PM
No mention of Ronny Turiaf. No wait, I'm serious. He's given them good minutes against us and others. How has he done in the playoffs thus far ?

ducks
05-20-2008, 11:57 PM
It's always tough to go against the Spurs and their Big Three. But Duncan appears to be wearing down, and the supporting cast has lost a step.

tell the hornets the bench has lost a step

tell the suns that duncan lost a step

pawe
05-21-2008, 12:28 AM
The Lakers are the best team right now so everybody is expecting them to reach the finals. BUT, the Spurs are the defending champions. You never ever count out the defending champions or even predict a 4-2 win by the other team. (Miami is a different story though)

T Park
05-21-2008, 12:35 AM
:lol @ "I'm not worried about manu Ginobili"

I gauran fucking tee you that KFC Cournel and Kobe are worried about him.

dbreiden83080
05-21-2008, 12:35 AM
I wasn't blown away by what i saw from the Lakers in the Utah series. It went 6 games, they played just OK on the road in games 3 and 4 and game 6 was one or 2 shots away from Jazz forcing game 7. This is the same Jazz team we beat in 5 games last year. Boozer was not as good as he can be in that series because of his lack of height, Lakers length bothered him, Tim won't have any such problems he will kill Gasol. Defensively we are much better than the Lakers and i believe in our big 3. They will outplay the Lakers big 3. I see a big series out of all them really.

pawe
05-21-2008, 12:39 AM
:lol @ "I'm not worried about manu Ginobili"

I gauran fucking tee you that KFC Cournel and Kobe are worried about him.

somebody should stick that line in Manu's locker.

boutons_
05-21-2008, 12:47 AM
Phil knows Fisher can't stop Tony, so he'll have other guys playing lazy to slide over and stop Tony and Manu.

ForeignFan
05-21-2008, 06:36 AM
Ginobili might have had the quietest 10/20 on 3s in the last two games ever. He had a stats-rich series, but nothing to knock your socks off, and is an afterthought at the moment. I'd be surprised if that didn't change.

The big difference between NO and the Lakes is interior defense. The Hornets packed the lane pretty hard. Maybe Phil does that, too, but he doesn't have any shot-blockers. I'd love for Kobe to guard Manu for a while to get him tired. And since when is Ariza 1) healthy, and 2) suddenly a prime defender, and 3) not a complete liability on offense?

I disagree. Gasol and Turiaf (especially Turiaf, but he has limited PT) are quite decent shotblockers

Deuces88
05-21-2008, 06:48 AM
The thing is this:

1) No one will stop Kobe, but with Bowen guarding him, one of two things will happen
a) Kobe's scoring is limited
b) Kobe shoots more to overcome Bowen's defense and takes away the chemistry the Lakers have

2) No one can stop Parker, Ginobili, and Duncan from doing their thing. Odom and Gasol can be stopped and Fisher isn't going to produce like Parker. To me, Odom is this series David West. Kurt Thomas did an excellent job on West by keeping in front of him (denying the driving lane), keeping up with West's speed, and contesting West's shot to make him miss more. However, Thomas likes to pick up stupid, unnecessary fouls so West had a chance to school Oberto most of the time. Gasol will get points and Duncan will as well. Difference is Duncan is a way better defender than Gasol and Duncan will limit Gasol's scoring (Duncan's good at making you change your shot), but Gasol won't be able to limit anything Duncan does. The only person who can stop Duncan is Duncan.

If you can't stop the big 3 of the Spurs and Bowen is good at making Kobe uncomfortable, how do you expect to win? You don't have a dominant center to consistently score inside and breath down Duncan's neck like Shaq. So basically the Lakers need their role players to somehow come up and play above and beyond their normal game.

Hornets were a harder team because Chris Paul is like the friggin best PG in the league. No one can deny that. I mean all of Chandler's points come from lobs. Peterson can only score when Paul finds him open. West plays better than he gets good openings from Paul early. Paul was dangerous because of his passing and court vision, not because of his scoring. Kobe is primarily a scorer. He's not as good at getting his team involved as Paul is, which is why I don't think Spurs will need 7 games to dispatch the Lakers.

TampaDude
05-21-2008, 06:52 AM
Spurs-Lakers Series Breakdown
TampaDude

Spurs in 6.

'nuff said...