Can the Lakers possibly play better than the Hornets did?

[Whisky Dog]

I've never seen a PG execute as efficiently as Paul did in that series. West could mostly do no wrong. I still can't figure out how the Spurs managed to win that series. Can the Lakers possibly be tougher?

[brettn]

Short answer? Yes.

[aka_USAPA]

The Lakers will be tougher. They have Kobe who is on a mission, and the Spurs have no answer for Odom.

[honestfool84]

and the Spurs have no answer for Odom.


oh, really?
we'll see.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Definitely

[lefty]

No

[saxman]

The Lakers will be tougher. They have Kobe who is on a mission, and the Spurs have no answer for Odom.


I agree with that assessment...However, I might add that the Spurs have a much better bench...The Lakers front court length will also be a problem...

[ShoogarBear]

The Lakers will be tougher. They have Kobe who is on a mission, and the Spurs have no answer for Odom.

Yes, and not having an answer for Odom has been the failure of many attempting to win the title.

[Whisky Dog]

I just don't see a floor general taking care of the ball anywhere near what Paul did. Not turning it over made the Spurs really work for their offense in the half court. I see more running from the Spurs this series.

[Rummpd]

The Lakers will be tougher. They have Kobe who is on a mission, and the Spurs have no answer for Odom.

And what pray tell will be the LALs answer for the true BIG THREE of Duncan, Parker and Manu?

[hater]

:lol @ Odom

Odom is the most overrated player in the Western Conference.

[Bob Lanier]

Yes, and not having an answer for Odom has been the failure of many attempting to win the title.
Wots this I hear about a long three then?

[Allanon]

The Hornets are an excellent team when you look at their starters. But the Hornets have a terrible flaw in their bench. Pargo's an Ok bencher and so is Bonzi.

But the Hornets have NO backup bigmen. All their bench big men are pure trash...I've never seen a good team with such trash for bigs before.

[ManuTim_best of Fwiendz]

I say there's a likely chance Hornets will have been the tougher Western opponent for us, and the Lakers will be less of a problem...

It comes down to coaching, but I think Popovich has matured a lot as a great coach (especially from the 2000's years), and he already beat Phil, and got that monkey off his back.
I think, thanks to the New Orleans series, that the Spurs have the edge over the Lakers.

[peskypesky]

I absolutely think the Lakers can be a tougher opponent than the Hornets. First, Lakers have Kobe Bryant. Much as it pains me to say this, he's been playing out of his mind lately. He looks almost Jordan-esque at times.

Second, the Lakers have some players (Kobe, Fisher) with Championship experience. They're not upstarts like CP3 and his gang.

Third, I think we have some matchup issues with the Lakers in the post. We only had to worry about one real post offensive threat with the Hornets (West). Now, there's two (Gasol and Odom). Tim can handle one of them, but we're gonna need some tight team defense to help Oberto and Thomas with the other.

But we'll still win.

:flag:

[Magic_Johnson]

No
Can the spurs play better? yes

spurs in 5

[hater]

I absolutely think the Lakers can be a tougher opponent than the Hornets. First, Lakers have Kobe Bryant. Much as it pains me to say this, he's been playing out of his mind lately. He looks almost Jordan-esque at times.

Second, the Lakers have some players (Kobe, Fisher) with Championship experience. They're not upstarts like CP3 and his gang.

Third, I think we have some matchup issues with the Lakers in the post. We only had to worry about one real post offensive threat with the Hornets (West). Now, there's two (Gasol and Odom). Tim can handle one of them, but we're gonna need some tight team defense to help Oberto and Thomas with the other.

But we'll still win.

:flag:


I agree that Lakers have a much better bench and more experience.

But the problem we had with Hornets was really the initial mismatches. At first, we had Bowen guarding CP3 which was a mistake. NObody to guard West, and Peja was going nuts.

the adjustments of Bowen on Peja and having some of Duncan on West are what won the series.

I really don't see a mismatch vs. Lakers. Thomas + Oberto + Duncan can handle Gason + Odom no problem. Bowen does good job on Kobe and Spurs are best at defending 3pt.

So I see this as a very even series until you bring up the fact that we have Tim DUncan and they don't. ONce you bring up this fact, I really don't see Lakers winning more than 2.

But if Lakers were to win, it would take one of their role players really stepping up their game. One other than Kobe, Gasol, Odom. Walton? Vujacik? Farmar?

I don't see that happening.

[Trainwreck2100]

Not from the PG position

[peskypesky]

I hope the Spurs players are sleeping on the Lakers like their idiotic fans.

I can promise you that Pop and the Spurs are not as idiotic as a lot of their fans. Lakers are going to be tough. I'm not afraid, but I'm not quite as confident as I was going against those newbie Hornets.

[Whisky Dog]

What kind of stupid question is that. Have you seen the Lakers play? The Hornets were a team that were not even playing well going in to the playoffs, they landed a pathetic weak Dallas team, and caught the Spurs on some bad shooting nights. The Lakers would have killed the Hornets in 5. I hope the Spurs players are sleeping on the Lakers like their idiotic fans.

Did you watch the series, fuck head?

Paul played better than any PG has in the FUCKING history of BASKETBALL!!!!

He didn't turn the ball over. He made every look he got. He set up his teammates greatly and made Chandler look like an all star.

Ive watched the lakers play 4 times in the playoffs and they haven't executed better. If the conference semifinals were switched we'd be getting ready for the Hornets right now.

[Allanon]

I really don't see a mismatch vs. Lakers. Thomas + Oberto + Duncan can handle Gason + Odom no problem. Bowen does good job on Kobe and Spurs are best at defending 3pt.
If you put Duncan on Gasol, that leaves Oberto and Thomas on Odom.

Boozer who's better than both tried to guard Odom in the Jazz series, he just couldn't keep up and was constantly fouling out trying to stop Odom. And Odom still got his 18 points, 11 rebounds a game.

Odom was the best Laker in the Jazz series because they had no defender for him, I expect that to continue.



So I see this as a very even series until you bring up the fact that we have Tim DUncan and they don't. ONce you bring up this fact, I really don't see Lakers winning more than 2.

Duncan is pretty much evened out by Gasol. Just like Bowen contains Kobe, Pau matches Duncan's output.

[lefty]

Spurs in 3

[Borosai]

If the Lakers are banking on Odom winning this series... well... that's just sad.

[Allanon]

If the Lakers are banking on Odom winning this series... well... that's just sad.

Odom's underrated, he's no less talented that Tony Parker or Manu, he's one of the big 3 for the Lakers, not anymore strange than Tony Parker or Manu winning the series for the Spurs.

And yes, I believe Odom was the key Laker player in the Jazz series....he was beast worthy.

[peskypesky]

If you put Duncan on Gasol, that leaves Oberto and Thomas on Odom.

Boozer who's better than both tried to guard Odom in the Jazz series, he just couldn't keep up and was constantly fouling out trying to stop Odom. And Odom still got his 18 points, 11 rebounds a game.

Odom was the best Laker in the Jazz series because they had no defender for him, I expect that to continue.



Duncan is pretty much evened out by Gasol. Just like Bowen contains Kobe, Pau matches Duncan's output.

No you didn't. You didn't just say that Gasol=Duncan. C'mon now.

[Sense]

It's not about that... it's about how well the Spurs match up with them and what the game plan will be and how well it will be executed. I still can't believe that some of you guys still can't seem to understand that it is always something different with a different team... Different teams give the Spurs different problems...

[dbreiden83080]

The Lakers will be tougher. They have Kobe who is on a mission, and the Spurs have no answer for Odom.

Thomas can't keep Odom from having a big series, he is not a great offensive player. Between Oberto, Duncan, Thomas, a little bit of Horry, we got plenty of bigs to check him.

[Allanon]

No you didn't. You didn't just say that Gasol=Duncan. C'mon now.

Obviously, Duncan is a much greater player. But strictly looking at the numbers, they will have similar output.

Duncan will have his 15-20 points a game + 10 rebounds, Gasol will get his 15-20 points a game and 10 rebounds give or take a couple points/rebounds.

[TD=old&busted]

If the Lakers are banking on Odom winning this series... well... that's just sad.

umm he the tired option, so that means after Kobe drops 30 a night and Pau another 20-25, Lamar should score more than enough for the Lakers to win 4 straight. I seriously hope you're not counting on mister 14.4 points per game Timmay to carry your pathetic offense game. your only hope is Manu flops and gets calls

[peskypesky]

It's not about that... it's about how well the Spurs match up with them and what the game plan will be and how well it will be executed. I still can't believe that some of you guys still can't seem to understand that it is always something different with a different team... Different teams give the Spurs different problems...

Duh. That's what this thread is about.

[DazedAndConfused]

Wow there are some pretty stupid comments in this thread, but it's no different than what Laker fans are saying on our messageboards. Fans, by and large, are myopic. I've yet to offer any predictions because I honestly don't know how this series will play out.

[dbreiden83080]

No you didn't. You didn't just say that Gasol=Duncan. C'mon now.

I guess i should put Manu with Kobe now. :hat

[peskypesky]

Obviously, Duncan is a much greater player. But strictly looking at the numbers, they will have similar output.

Duncan will have his 15-20 points a game + 10 rebounds, Gasol will get his 15-20 points a game and 10 rebounds.

You can't just look at two stats to compare Duncan and Gasol! You know better than that. Are you going to ignore the fact that Tim is a first-team all-NBA defender ONCE AGAIN? Are you going to ignore the fact that teams (like the Hornets) often resort to double-teaming Duncan to contain him? I don't think many teams have had to do that to Gasol, with all due respect. I could go on, but why waste my time? You know you're just being foolish.

[dbreiden83080]

Obviously, Duncan is a much greater player. But strictly looking at the numbers, they will have similar output.

Duncan will have his 15-20 points a game + 10 rebounds, Gasol will get his 15-20 points a game and 10 rebounds give or take a couple points/rebounds.

If Phil does not double Duncan he will go for 25 and 12 a game in this series without breaking a sweat. Gasol can't check Timmy to save his life.

[PwrGetter]

Duncan wasnt double during the last meeting of the regular season between lakers and spurs.... and that turned out pretty well for the lakers.

[Borosai]

Odom's underrated, he's no less talented that Tony Parker or Manu, he's one of the big 3 for the Lakers, not anymore strange than Tony Parker or Manu winning the series for the Spurs.

And yes, I believe Odom was the key Laker player in the Jazz series....he was beast worthy.

He's definitely not a tard, but I'm expecting him to disappear, minus a couple of games. We'll just have to see.

[Sense]

Duh. That's what this thread is about.

Oh really? There's obviously no way to know until they meet... This can't be a yes and no question.. they can either match the way they played and make one or two better plays or play worse...

[hater]

If you put Duncan on Gasol, that leaves Oberto and Thomas on Odom.

Boozer who's better than both tried to guard Odom in the Jazz series, he just couldn't keep up and was constantly fouling out trying to stop Odom. And Odom still got his 18 points, 11 rebounds a game.

18pts 11rebounds?? that's it? we can live w/that. West from the HOrnets was killing us compare to that.



Duncan is pretty much evened out by Gasol.

:lmao :lmao

you talking about delusional? that's as delusional as it comes :lol

[Sense]

Duncan wasnt double during the last meeting of the regular season between lakers and spurs.... and that turned out pretty well for the lakers.


Read that again...

[peskypesky]

Duncan wasnt double during the last meeting of the regular season between lakers and spurs.... and that turned out pretty well for the lakers.

You should ask the Hornets and Cavs how much a fuck Spurs give about regular season games. Idiot.:bang

[hater]

If the Lakers are banking on Odom winning this series... well... that's just sad.

:tu

[Allanon]

You can't just look at two stats to compare Duncan and Gasol! You know better than that. Are you going to ignore the fact that Tim is a first-team all-NBA defender ONCE AGAIN? Are you going to ignore the fact that teams (like the Hornets) often resort to double-teaming Duncan to contain him? I don't think many teams have had to do that to Gasol, with all due respect. I could go on, but why waste my time? You know you're just being foolish.

No, no,no, I ain't talking about intangibles. I'm the first to say Duncan is the greatest power forward of all time. And yes, you're right, you can't just look at the numbers but this is just about the numbers...remove the intangibles for a minute :D

I know Duncan is greater than Pau. It's like Bowen stopping Kobe. He doesn't really stop Kobe, but he does a pretty good job. In a similar way, the Duncan/Pau matchup isn't any dominating advantage for the Spurs.

For example, just looking at box scores, in the last game against the Spurs, Duncan had 16 points, Pau had 14, Duncan with 12 rebounds, Pau with 11.

Strictly head to head matchups (no intangibles like late game shots, 3 pointers with 2 seconds left, etc), the numbers are pretty much even for the two. Or in other words, just looking at boxscores.

[Borosai]

umm he the tired option, so that means after Kobe drops 30 a night and Pau another 20-25, Lamar should score more than enough for the Lakers to win 4 straight. I seriously hope you're not counting on mister 14.4 points per game Timmay to carry your pathetic offense game. your only hope is Manu flops and gets calls

How many shots will Kobe take for those 30 points? And how many shots will Gasol take for his? And how many shots do you think will be left for everyone else? If the Lakers play very well and efficiently, then you might have a point, but I'm sure the Spurs will be up to the challenge.

But you are right about one thing: Odom is the tired option. :toast

[Sense]

You can't just look at two stats to compare Duncan and Gasol! You know better than that. Are you going to ignore the fact that Tim is a first-team all-NBA defender ONCE AGAIN? Are you going to ignore the fact that teams (like the Hornets) often resort to double-teaming Duncan to contain him? I don't think many teams have had to do that to Gasol, with all due respect. I could go on, but why waste my time? You know you're just being foolish.


+1....

How can you say they will cancel each other out when Duncan is a great defender... and great offensive player in the playoffs?

The Gasol=Duncan is just retarded.

[LakerLanny]

Did you watch the series, fuck head?

Paul played better than any PG has in the FUCKING history of BASKETBALL!!!!

He didn't turn the ball over. He made every look he got. He set up his teammates greatly and made Chandler look like an all star.

Ive watched the lakers play 4 times in the playoffs and they haven't executed better. If the conference semifinals were switched we'd be getting ready for the Hornets right now.


What are you talking about? Better than any PG in the history of basketball?

Look, I know you are just a blind homer....but that is a very unintelligent statement. His team got blown out in 3 games, didn't win a road game and lost at home in Game 7 where the opposing PG used him over and over again.

That is the best PG series in the history of basketball? OK Okie.

[hater]

Odom is as good as Manu or Parker?

and Laker fans say we are delusional?

[Allanon]

18pts 11rebounds?? that's it? we can live w/that. West from the HOrnets was killing us compare to that.

West is the #1 option on the Hornets on offense. Odom is the 3rd option and him getting his 18 will be like Peja getting his 20 points on...very hard to beat.

When the teams are so evenly matched, you gotta look beyond the #1, #2 option for the edge.

[remingtonbo2001]

I'm sorry but when you compare Gasol to Duncan you're going to get laughed at.

That's like comparing Vince Carter with Michael Jordan.


Comparing Odom with Ginobili or Parker is equally ludicrious. Odom is a quality player, however, he hasn't lead his team to a gold medal, or an NBA Finals.

LA has Kobe Bryant. They have a good point guard in Derek Fisher. They have a post presence in Gasol and Odom. Their bench players are mediocore.

If Bynum was available I might be more concerned.

I believe the Hornets are the tougher matchup between the two teams. However, I do think LA could've taken NO.

LA is a better matchup for the Spurs. Plain and simple.

[peskypesky]

I hope the Lakers are just as convinced as some of their fans that Gasol = Duncan. I really do.

[Allanon]

I hope the Lakers are just as convinced as some of their fans that Gasol = Duncan. I really do.

I didn't say Gasol = Duncan, I said he evens him out in numbers :)

[Sense]

What are you talking about? Better than any PG in the history of basketball?

Look, I know you are just a blind homer....but that is a very unintelligent statement. His team got blown out in 3 games, didn't win a road game and lost at home in Game 7 where the opposing PG used him over and over again.

That is the best PG series in the history of basketball? OK Okie.
OK he exaggerated when he said best PG series in history... but it was historical... I mean it's in the books already... he was a stud and virtually unstoppable... he took the Spurs to seven games... and sure they all looked like blowouts but he was still making shots and if you paid attention... the Spurs didn't really beat them that convincingly except for maybe one and a half games..

You need to watch your games before you can open your mouth and let all that shit fly out.

[Sense]

West is the #1 option on the Hornets on offense. Odom is the 3rd option and him getting his 18 will be like Peja getting his 20 points on...very hard to beat.

When the teams are so evenly matched, you gotta look beyond the #1, #2 option for the edge.

When Paul is in your team.. anyone can be a #1 option.. West just never misses.

[hater]

Odom was the best Laker in the Jazz series because they had no defender for him, I expect that to continue.


Odom is the 3rd option and him getting his 18 will be like Peja getting his 20 points on...very hard to beat.


:lmao

this is just sad

[LakerLanny]

You need to watch your games before you can open your mouth and let all that shit fly out.

He is an idiot and I called him out as such.

Your statements are also ludicrous, there are many Spurs fans on this board that know I have forgotten more about basketball than a honk like you will ever know.

Chris Paul had a great regular season, a tremendous round 1 of the playoffs and was outstanding in the first 3 games and part of game 5 of the second round.

But bottom line is he was running away from shots in the 4th qtr of game 7 and his airball layup near the end was the final stake in his own team's heart.

Magic Johnson probably had 10 playoff series better than that and he is just one player. I won't even bother with Isiah Thomas or anyone else as I already know I am right.

Stick to football Tex, that might be more your speed. Leave the basketball talk to the big boys.

[SRJ]

Possibly? Of course. Probably? No.

The Spurs don't have a midget frontcourt like the Jazz do and they have the only guy in the league who bothers Kobe Bryant. Phil is not a big fan of doubling, so good luck with Timmy, LA.

Spurs in six.

[DazedAndConfused]

Tim Duncan is not going to make or break this series. He and Kobe are the constants in this series.

Ginobli, Parker, Odom, Gasol, and the respective benches are the variables. That is where the game will be decided.

[DazedAndConfused]

Duncan in round 2
15.3 ppg
.421 fg%
.675 ft%
13 rpg
2.7 apg
1.9 bpg
2.4 topg

He's so damn unstoppable. I wonder what we are going to do :lmao. Duncan has been wildly inconsistent in the playoffs.

[dbreiden83080]

Duncan wasnt double during the last meeting of the regular season between lakers and spurs.... and that turned out pretty well for the lakers.

I see you haven't been schooled yet on Reg Season vs Post-season Duncan.

[Sense]

He is an idiot and I called him out as such.

Your statements are also ludicrous, there are many Spurs fans on this board that know I have forgotten more about basketball than a honk like you will ever know.

Chris Paul had a great regular season, a tremendous round 1 of the playoffs and was outstanding in the first 3 games and part of game 5 of the second round.

But bottom line is he was running away from shots in the 4th qtr of game 7 and his airball layup near the end was the final stake in his own team's heart.

Magic Johnson probably had 10 playoff series better than that and he is just one player. I won't even bother with Isiah Thomas or anyone else as I already know I am right.

Stick to football Tex, that might be more your speed. Leave the basketball talk to the big boys.

You forget that Chris Paul played the Spurs... arguably the best defensive team in the playoffs right now. No point guard against the Spurs had ever controlled a game against the Spurs the way he did.. not even Kidd..

The fact is... he was the reason why the Hornets were such a bad match up against every contending team in the West... The Lakers matched up well against the Jazz and you're being delusional thinking that just by beating them you can pretty much cruise by anyone...

I'm glad we get to play the Lakers... so the fans can continue hating the Spurs and continue to be this retarded.

[peskypesky]

[QUOTE=SRJ;2520025]The Spurs don't have a midget frontcourt like the Jazz doQUOTE]

Hmmm...Okur is 6'11" and Boozer is 6'9".

Duncan is 6'11" and Obert is 6'10".

Doesn't seem like Utah was that much smaller than SA.

[Allanon]

:lmao

this is just sad

If Kobe gets his 25, Pau gets his 20 and Odom gets his 18, the Lakers are very hard to beat.

Pesky, you're a smart guy, you know I'm not saying Pau is equal to Duncan, I'm saying he's not going to get wasted by Duncan like some Spur fans say he will.

[peskypesky]

Duncan in round 2
15.3 ppg
.421 fg%
.675 ft%
13 rpg
2.7 apg
1.9 bpg
2.4 topg

He's so damn unstoppable. I wonder what we are going to do :lmao. Duncan has been wildly inconsistent in the playoffs.

You do know that Tim had the flu in the first two games, right? You factored that in, right? Idiot.

[tempest186]

Yes the Lakers are better and will play better than the Hornets did. the Spurs will need to be better too and they can be. The last regular season game between the two was a Laker blowout but the Spurs are much better than they showed then (no Manu). That all being said, this will be the Spurs toughest test so far. The Lakers are playing very well and the Spurs need their A game. IMHO Odom and Udoka are going to be the keys in this series.

[Sense]

Duncan in round 2
15.3 ppg
.421 fg%
.675 ft%
13 rpg
2.7 apg
1.9 bpg
2.4 topg

He's so damn unstoppable. I wonder what we are going to do :lmao. Duncan has been wildly inconsistent in the playoffs.

Duncan got swarmed... by 2 or 3 players everytime he touched the ball... the series came down to Tony, Manu, and the 3's... with that said... the series should have ended earlier.. but Tony Manu and the 3's were never consistent....

the first round pretty much shows how TD is in the playoffs... if you know anything about Tim Duncan... it's that he always shows up in the playoffs... I can't believe you aren't surprised by his performance against the Hornets... oh wait.. you're a Laker fan.. I can.

[DazedAndConfused]

Duncan is NOT going to dominate Gasol. It's laughable that you guys still believe that BS. Do you not remember his craptastic 6-19 performance last time we played? Gasol got two fucking blocks on Duncan IIRC.

Gasol plays good man defense against players like him who rely on footwork and fundamentals to outwit their opponent. He does poorly against aggressive, athletic, overpowering players.......which is not really Duncan's game. It's no coincidence that he guarded Duncan very well last time we played, cerebral vs. cerebral.

That being said, Duncan and Kobe don't matter in this series. They are going to get their points no matter who you throw at them. It's going to be decided by the role players.

[DazedAndConfused]

You do know that Tim had the flu in the first two games, right? You factored that in, right? Idiot.

Oh, THE FLU??? HAHHAHA. What about Game 5???

Please, everyone is banged up in the playoffs. Kobe has played through far worse.

[BigBeezie]

They could but they won't... These Lakers aren't battle tested like the old...

[Sense]

Duncan is NOT going to dominate Gasol. It's laughable that you guys still believe that BS. Do you not remember his craptastic 6-19 performance last time we played? Gasol got two fucking blocks on Duncan IIRC.

Gasol plays good man defense against players like him who rely on footwork and fundamentals to outwit their opponent. He does poorly against aggressive, athletic, overpowering players.......which is not really Duncan's game. It's no coincidence that he guarded Duncan very well last time we played, cerebral vs. cerebral.

That being said, Duncan and Kobe don't matter in this series. They are going to get their points no matter who you throw at them. It's going to be decided by the role players.
Please enlighten me.. when was game?

It's no secret that Duncan never played to his full potential in the regular season....

why can't you idiots see that? Shit.. why do people keep bringing up the regular season?

This is not the regular season... This is not the same Spurs team... but you will get to see that.

[Danny.Zhu]

Of course. And I believe that they will become even stronger next year as the Celtics. So we gotta manage to get better players this summer.

[G-Nob]

Waste of time trying to compare. The next round you always turn it up, regardless of the opponent. This isn't about the Lakers, its about how we play from here on out.

[Sense]

Oh, THE FLU??? HAHHAHA. What about Game 5???

Please, everyone is banged up in the playoffs. Kobe has played through far worse.

Kobe has a shot... He's played games with only that....

Duncan doesn't have that good of a shot..

[DazedAndConfused]

Next year is not even in discussion if Bynum comes back. The Spurs have no chance. The only reason this series is up for grabs is because Bynum is injured.

[SPARKY]

Next year is not even in discussion if Bynum comes back. The Spurs have no chance. The only reason this series is up for grabs is because Bynum is injured.

Excuses, excuses.

[SRJ]

Hmmm...Okur is 6'11" and Boozer is 6'9".

1) Boozer is listed at 6'9". That looks generous to me.
2) Exactly how much time does Okur spend in the paint? He might as well be 6'3" with all the threes he shoots.
3) Why did you stop at the starters? Millsap, who I like a lot, is 6'8"; KT is 6'10". Horry is 6'10". The Spurs C's and PF's as a group are longer than Utah's and are a much better bet to contest the interior better than Utah. Utah's preferred method of defense is the personal foul.

[Sense]

Next year is not even in discussion if Bynum comes back. The Spurs have no chance. The only reason this series is up for grabs is because Bynum is injured.

Rofl........

omfg...

Laker fans are just... hilarious...


It's pretty much like Celtic fans saying that if Ray Allen were on the team next year no one would have a chance... if he were hurt...

[LakerLanny]

if you know anything about Tim Duncan... it's that he always shows up in the playoffs...

The Lakers have handled him in playoffs past so he doesn't ALWAYS show up.

You are underestimating the #1 seed and the glamour franchise of the NBA, big time.

I guarantee the Lakers will win the first two games of this series and you will be crying about something instead of facing the reality. And you won't be coming back from 0-2 vs the Lakers, that isn't going to happen.

[SRJ]

Next year is not even in discussion if Bynum comes back. The Spurs have no chance. The only reason this series is up for grabs is because Bynum is injured.

When did Andrew Bynum become Chamberlain, Jabbar, and Hakeem combined? The guy's a promising young player and you Laker fans act like you're sitting on the future of the NBA over there.

[SPARKY]

The Lakers have handled him in playoffs past so he doesn't ALWAYS show up.

You are underestimating the #1 seed and the glamour franchise of the NBA, big time.

I guarantee the Lakers will win the first two games of this series and you will be crying about something instead of facing the reality. And you won't be coming back from 0-2 vs the Lakers, that isn't going to happen.

So you're attracted to glamorous men? It's 2008, so whatever floats your boat.

[peskypesky]

Oh, THE FLU??? HAHHAHA. What about Game 5???

Please, everyone is banged up in the playoffs. Kobe has played through far worse.

Alright, if the Lakers fans want to just be dumbass fuckwads, I guess I might as well start spouting shit too. Manu=Kobe, Duncan>Gasol, Oberto=Odom, Bowen>Radmanovic, Parker>Fisher. We win. Easy. Next?

[Sense]

The Lakers have handled him in playoffs past so he doesn't ALWAYS show up.

You are underestimating the #1 seed and the glamour franchise of the NBA, big time.

I guarantee the Lakers will win the first two games of this series and you will be crying about something instead of facing the reality. And you won't be coming back from 0-2 vs the Lakers, that isn't going to happen.

believe it or not... I would dread playing the Hornets again being down 0-2.. rather than the Lakers....

You guys are a way better match up for the Spurs.. which doesn't make me nervous at all..

You get a guy and all of a sudden you think you're invincible... but you're delusional.

[LakerLanny]

So you're attracted to glamorous men? It's 2008, so whatever floats your boat.

Kobe is a very glamorous man. I want to live in his guest house and be his pool boy.

[peskypesky]

The Lakers have handled him in playoffs past so he doesn't ALWAYS show up.

You are underestimating the #1 seed and the glamour franchise of the NBA, big time.

I guarantee the Lakers will win the first two games of this series and you will be crying about something instead of facing the reality. And you won't be coming back from 0-2 vs the Lakers, that isn't going to happen.

And you are underestimating Ime Udoka, who will eat the Lakers alive.

[Sense]

Just found the word that sums up Homer Laker fans....

Delusional.

ok I'm done arguing with idiots...t'was fun... back to life.

[peskypesky]

Oberto will totally shut down Odom. Duncan will shut down Gasol. Bowen will shut down Bryant. Lakers will be lucky to score 50pts a game.

[austinlakepirate]

no


I've never seen a PG execute as efficiently as Paul did in that series. West could mostly do no wrong. I still can't figure out how the Spurs managed to win that series. Can the Lakers possibly be tougher?

[LakerLanny]

Oberto will totally shut down Odom. Duncan will shut down Gasol. Bowen will shut down Bryant. Lakers will be lucky to score 50pts a game.

A Laker fan wanted to name the *purs starting lineup for Game 1, so I posted it on LG:

Tissue Timmy, Fabio, The Butcher, Beak and Tony Longoria

[peskypesky]

A Laker fan wanted to name the *purs starting lineup for Game 1, so I posted it on LG:

Tissue Timmy, Fabio, The Butcher, Beak and Tony Longoria

Lakers line-up:
PG - Mr. Molasses
SG - The Rapist
SF - Mr. Invisible
PF - Sir O. Dumb
C - Spanish Flu

[Allanon]

When did Andrew Bynum become Chamberlain, Jabbar, and Hakeem combined? The guy's a promising young player and you Laker fans act like you're sitting on the future of the NBA over there.

If Bynum comes back anything like he was this year along with Kobe, Pau and Odom, the NBA will probably have to break up the team to keep the league competitive.

[hater]

Lakers line-up:
PG - Mr. Molasses
SG - The Rapist
SF - Mr. Invisible
PF - Sir O. Dumb
C - Spanish Flu

I would go with:
PG - Mr. Slow
SG - Trailer Trash Banger
SF - the space cadet :lol
PF - the ghost (because he dissapears in big games)
C - the missing link

[TD=old&busted]

Oberto will totally shut down Odom. Duncan will shut down Gasol. Bowen will shut down Bryant. Lakers will be lucky to score 50pts a game.

fail

[DazedAndConfused]

If Bynum comes back anything like he was this year along with Kobe, Pau and Odom, the NBA will probably have to break up the team to keep the league competitive.

Yup, and he's not even 21 yet. The kid has so much untapped potential. The Lakers could end up as one of the most dominant teams ever if he hits anywhere near his ceiling as a player. I kind of like it that nobody is really acknowledging this fact. We're going to surprise a lot of people with a healthy Bynum.

[peskypesky]

I would go with:
PG - Mr. Slow
SG - Trailer Trash Banger
SF - the space cadet :lol
PF - the ghost (because he dissapears in big games)
C - the missing link

:toast

[SpursFan0728]

If Bynum comes back anything like he was this year along with Kobe, Pau and Odom, the NBA will probably have to break up the team to keep the league competitive.

Odom would probably be gone after next year...
so it will be a great run for the Lakers next year

[peskypesky]

Yup, and he's not even 21 yet. The kid has so much untapped potential. The Lakers could end up as one of the most dominant teams ever if he hits anywhere near his ceiling as a player. I kind of like it that nobody is really acknowledging this fact. We're going to surprise a lot of people with a healthy Bynum.

Bynum will never be the same, and he wasn't great to begin with. When SPurs get Splitter and Mahinmi next year, we'll dominate the league easily.

[DazedAndConfused]

Odom would probably be gone after next year...
so it will be a great run for the Lakers next year

Is that you Mitch?

The Laker core isn't going to be broken up. I see Odom taking a slight paycut to stay in LA and win championships. He's that kind of guy.

[SRJ]

I have to admit it, Laker Fan - I rather like "Beak" as a nickname for Manu. That's pretty funny.

Similarly, though sarcastically, I now dub Pau Gasol "Chin".

[dbreiden83080]

Next year is not even in discussion if Bynum comes back. The Spurs have no chance. The only reason this series is up for grabs is because Bynum is injured.

Oh yeah because Bynum has just proven to be so consistantly great and healthy. :rolleyes:rolleyes

[dbreiden83080]

If Bynum comes back anything like he was this year along with Kobe, Pau and Odom, the NBA will probably have to break up the team to keep the league competitive.

:lmao

Oh MY GOD

[Allanon]

Oh yeah because Bynum has just proven to be so consistantly great and healthy. :rolleyes:rolleyes

He doesn't have to be great, he just needs to continue on with his 20 and 10. Kobe, Pau and Odom will pick up for the rest of his slack :)

[peskypesky]

He doesn't have to be great, he just needs to continue on with his 20 and 10. Kobe, Pau and Odom will pick up for the rest of his slack :)

He won't average 20 and 10 any more. The knee is gone. Sucks for you.

[td4mvp21]

I expect them to be just as tough, if not tougher.

[Whisky Dog]

Fuck the lakers

[Allanon]

He won't average 20 and 10 any more. The knee is gone. Sucks for you.

Possibly, I'm still gonna be doubtful as well until the season starts up again. Amare seems to have come back from some much more heavy stuff but you just never know.

But IF he is healthy, there will be hell to pay...it wouldn't even be fair anymore.

[Whisky Dog]

Why are you dumb fucks talking trash about next season? The world may end before then. We have a WCF looming.

Pop your ADHD drugs and focus.

[peskypesky]

Why are you dumb fucks talking trash about next season? The world may end before then. We have a WCF looming.

Pop your ADHD drugs and focus.

Lakers fans HAVE to look forward to next year, because well, they're about to lose to the Champs.

[SRJ]

He doesn't have to be great, he just needs to continue on with his 13 and 10.

Fixed.

[Allanon]

Fixed.

Those are early season averages when he was a backup Center. When he gets more than 30 minutes a game, he's a 20 and 10 guy.

[ATXSPUR]

What kind of stupid question is that. Have you seen the Lakers play? The Hornets were a team that were not even playing well going in to the playoffs, they landed a pathetic weak Dallas team, and caught the Spurs on some bad shooting nights. The Lakers would have killed the Hornets in 5. I hope the Spurs players are sleeping on the Lakers like their idiotic fans.

Idiotic fans? Why don't you go to lakersground and read some of the bullshit being spewed there you fucking waste of breath.

Killed the hornets in 5? Talk about the epitome of arrogance...I hope you think the same way about the spurs.

[IllegalAmigo]

Lakers fans HAVE to look forward to next year, because well, they're about to lose to the Champs.

dually noted

I hope half of you hang around after game 6.

Of course, you'll be ex-champs, but that's besides the point.

[aka_USAPA]

I agree with that assessment...However, I might add that the Spurs have a much better bench...The Lakers front court length will also be a problem...

The Lakers have one of the best benches in the league. They are younger too. It's going to be a fun series, that's for sure.

[aka_USAPA]

Lakers fans HAVE to look forward to next year, because well, they're about to lose to the Champs.

Kobe is hungry. Bowen is not the same defender as he used to be, although still as dirty. He hurts people intentionally.

[aka_USAPA]

Thomas can't keep Odom from having a big series, he is not a great offensive player. Between Oberto, Duncan, Thomas, a little bit of Horry, we got plenty of bigs to check him.

If you throw all those guys at Odom, Gasol will step up. I think the Spurs fans are underestimating the Lakers...

[Kermit]

Kobe is hungry. Bowen is not the same defender as he used to be, although still as dirty. He hurts people intentionally.

And the Lakers never do that...

http://www.southernledger.com/images_ap/77558c72-a43f-44c3-bebb-2f69c4a772ee-77558c72-a43f-44c3-bebb-2f69c4a772ee.jpg

[kingmalaki]

I am dying laughing at Laker fans who think Gasol has a chance in hell on stopping Duncan. Yeah, Duncan had a bad game the last time they played. What about the other 3 times they played this season? What about all the other times they have played in their career? Anyone who has watched those two teams knows Gasol has never consistently held Duncan well.

This is the same Gasol that recently had a playoff game where he didn't collect one defensive rebound. This is the same frontline that has been outrebounded practically every game in this postseason. Yet their frontline is better than SA's?

Whatever....

[aka_USAPA]

The Lakers matched up well against the Jazz and you're being delusional thinking that just by beating them you can pretty much cruise by anyone...

I don't think the Lakers are thinking that at all. Some fans might think so but the Lakers are taking this series very seriously.



I'm glad we get to play the Lakers... so the fans can continue hating the Spurs and continue to be this retarded.

Be careful what you wish for, you just might get it.

[aka_USAPA]

I am dying laughing at Laker fans who think Gasol has a chance in hell on stopping Duncan. Yeah, Duncan had a bad game the last time they played. What about the other 3 times they played this season? What about all the other times they have played in their career? Anyone who has watched those two teams knows Gasol has never consistently held Duncan well.

This is the same Gasol that recently had a playoff game where he didn't collect one defensive rebound. This is the same frontline that has been outrebounded practically every game in this postseason. Yet their frontline is better than SA's?

Whatever....

Gasol is not going to stop Duncan. Nobody can 1-1 but Gasol will have is 19 points, 10 rebounds 3 blocks and 4 assists... Duncan at this stage of his career will be hard pressed to average that in this series.

[peskypesky]

Kobe is hungry. Bowen is not the same defender as he used to be, although still as dirty. He hurts people intentionally.

hopefully he'll poke one of Kobe's eyes out. but then again, Kobe is so great he'll still score 50 on us, right?

[peskypesky]

Gasol is not going to stop Duncan. Nobody can 1-1 but Gasol will have is 19 points, 10 rebounds 3 blocks and 4 assists... Duncan at this stage of his career will be hard pressed to average that in this series.

Duncan will eat Gasol ALIVE. My prediction for Duncan is 30pts 20rebounds and 5 blocks per game.

[Man of Steel]

Hornets are tougher than the Lakers.

The Fakers won 1 more game than the Hornets in the regular season. Big fucking deal.

LA will be lucky and win one game...

[Kermit]

Duncan at this stage of his career will be hard pressed to average that in this series.

And why is that? Are the Lakers going to double team him everytime he gets the ball?

[peskypesky]

The Lakers have one of the best benches in the league. They are younger too. It's going to be a fun series, that's for sure.

you're kidding, right? the lakers bench is pitiful.

[peskypesky]

Hornets will prove to be a much more difficult opponent that the Lakers.

LA will be lucky and win one game...

Lakers MIGHT win game 1, because the Spurs had to sleep on a plane the night after a Game 7. But that'll be the only game they MIGHT win.

[Kermit]

you're kidding, right? the lakers bench is pitiful.

Uh, no they're not. They're universally considered the best bench in the NBA.

[kingmalaki]

Gasol is not going to stop Duncan. Nobody can 1-1 but Gasol will have is 19 points, 10 rebounds 3 blocks and 4 assists... Duncan at this stage of his career will be hard pressed to average that in this series.

Hmm, so Duncan, when he doesn't have the flu, can put up a 24, 14, 2 and 3 avg against the Suns (who have Shaq and Amare)...but he won't be able to get 19 and 10 against a frontline of Gasol and Odom? :lol

[kobe_mvp_24]

No


i hope u stay wit ur word untill we win that series

[peskypesky]

Uh, no they're not. They're universally considered the best bench in the NBA.

by Lakers fans, not by me

[aka_USAPA]

And why is that? Are the Lakers going to double team him everytime he gets the ball?

They play very good team defense. Jackson will make adjustments as the series goes on. They are a very underrated defensive team.

[kobe_mvp_24]

Lakers MIGHT win game 1, because the Spurs had to sleep on a plane the night after a Game 7. But that'll be the only game they MIGHT win.

will see about that

[aka_USAPA]

by Lakers fans, not by me

Not just by Lakers fans. But it's ok. I can see your blinders on.

[Kermit]

They play very good team defense. Jackson will make adjustments as the series goes on. They are a very underrated defensive team.

That still doesn't explain your assertion on why Tim's going to be hard pressed to average 19 points and 10 rebounds a game. I'm willing to bet you have no fucking idea what you're talking about.

[aka_USAPA]

When did Andrew Bynum become Chamberlain, Jabbar, and Hakeem combined? The guy's a promising young player and you Laker fans act like you're sitting on the future of the NBA over there.

If he was, the Lakers would sweep the Spurs. He's not but when he was injured, over a stretch he was averaging about 19 points, and 11 rebounds. Not too shabby for somebody who would be #4 in this team. Plus, he anchors the defense very well and if Duncan had trouble with Chandler, he would have more trouble with Bynum because of his length, and more offensive moves.

[aka_USAPA]

That still doesn't explain your assertion on why Tim's going to be hard pressed to average 19 points and 10 rebounds a game. I'm willing to bet you have no fucking idea what you're talking about.

Because he hasn't all playoffs. Why would that change now?

[DriveFor5]

I've never seen a PG execute as efficiently as Paul did in that series. West could mostly do no wrong. I still can't figure out how the Spurs managed to win that series. Can the Lakers possibly be tougher?

Not at all. What appears to be the #1 seed making the WCF's is just a team that got an extra bucket somewhere to end up with 1 more win than NOH and the Spurs, and 2 more wins than Phoenix and Houston..Basically the Spurs, Hornets, Suns, and Rockets all could have easily gotten the #1 seed and get the cakewalk through the first two rounds and be in the WCF...

[peskypesky]

Because he hasn't all playoffs. Why would that change now?

Because he's been playing against strong front-courts. That's not the case in this series.

[Kermit]

Because he hasn't all playoffs. Why would that change now?

I would check again on those rebounding statistics. If you're going by points averaged coming off a series where he was routinely doubled by a team that refused to let him beat them to prove your point then congratulations! You earned the stupid prize.

[aka_USAPA]

Because he's been playing against strong front-courts. That's not the case in this series.

You might have a different opinion when the series is over. They have 7'1 Gasol who has been surprising in his defense and smarts, and Odom, 6'10 who will drive on Thomas all night, same way he did to Boozer who is probably a better defender than Thomas.

[Man of Steel]

[QUOTE=kobe_mvp_24;2520572]will see about that[/QUOT

You're right.

They might not even win one game...:toast

[aka_USAPA]

Funny, the Spurs fans are forgetting about Kobe's 33 ppg, 7 apg, 6 rpg, and 2 steals, not to mention his mental toughness. Sure, I'd love for the Spurs to worry about the frontline.

[Man of Steel]

will see about that


What a great comeback...

But you're right.

Lakers may get swept...


:rollin

[peskypesky]

You might have a different opinion when the series is over. They have 7'1 Gasol who has been surprising in his defense and smarts, and Odom, 6'10 who will drive on Thomas all night, same way he did to Boozer who is probably a better defender than Thomas.

lol

Lakers front-court is by far the weakest front-court Spurs will face in this playoffs.

[peskypesky]

Funny, the Spurs fans are forgetting about Kobe's 33 ppg, 7 apg, 6 rpg, and 2 steals, not to mention his mental toughness. Sure, I'd love for the Spurs to worry about the frontline.

You forgot that first-team all-NBA defender Bruce Bowen will be shutting Kobe down like he shut Peja down.

[kingmalaki]

You forgot to mention that this is the same team that scores way more points than their opponents in the playoffs.

And in both of their two pervious series they played teams that couldn't match up with Kobe or Gasol without doubling. That isn't the case with SA. Not to mention, the Nuggets are one of the worst defensive teams in the league and the Jazz are so-so (but most importantly, they didn't match up well).

But I don't see what scoring points had to do with the assertion that the Laker frontcourt could slow down Duncan. I was responding to that, and made no mention of anyone winning the series. I just think it's silly to think Gasol will stop Duncan when he is barely known as an average defender and Duncan has been wiping the floor with him for years.

[aka_USAPA]

You forgot that first-team all-NBA defender Bruce Bowen will be shutting Kobe down like he shut Peja down.

Wow. Peja is the same level as Kobe, huh?

[aka_USAPA]

The Lakers are taking the Spurs seriously. They have a lot of respect for the Spurs. Forget what the fans say.

http://www.nba.com/lakers/multimedia/0708video.html

[peskypesky]

Man, you are wasting your time trying to rationalize with these fucktards!!! You cant tell them shyt since they have won a measly 4 titles!!! Four years of success in 35 years of history is pathetic compared to a Laker. The only way to shut these fags up is to beat them. We saw they gave up on their team after game two against the Hornets. After tomorrow, you will see half of these farmers give up again.

:rollin

I remember the Hornets fans sounding like you a couple of weeks ago, all pumped up because they blew the Spurs out in some regular season games.

This is the playoffs, fool. You ain't played this Spurs team yet.

[aka_USAPA]

Yup. Peja is in the same level as Kobe. Ask peskypesky. LMAO!!!!

[aka_USAPA]

The same Peja who is known to disappear in big games in the playoffs. The same one dimensional Peja Stojakovic. Yup. He's in the same level as Kobe.

Tell us about that, peskypesky. The floor is now yours. Oh, how come Peja got zero first place MVP votes???? LMAOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!

[peskypesky]

Yup. Peja is in the same level as Kobe. Ask peskypesky. LMAO!!!!

Bowen will shut him down, even if he is better than Peja.

[aka_USAPA]

Bowen will shut him down, even if he is better than Peja.

Got it. In other words, don't take you seriously. OK. No problem.

[aka_USAPA]

So tell me, if Peja is in the same level as Kobe, how many first place MVP votes did he get?

[peskypesky]

Got it. In other words, don't take you seriously. OK. No problem.

And we're supposed to take any Lakers fans seriously? GTFO

It's all just trash-talking.

[aka_USAPA]

Newsflash! Kobe owned Bowen when he was DPOY. Since then, he's lost a step or two. What makes you think Bowen can keep up with Kobe and his multi-facet game?

[aka_USAPA]

And we're supposed to take any Lakers fans seriously? GTFO

It's all just trash-talking.

Na, it's all about making sense, which currently, you're far from it.

[peskypesky]

So tell me, if Peja is in the same level as Kobe, how many first place MVP votes did he get?

MVP doesn't necessarily mean shit. Nash has two and how many rings did that get him? Right. Zero.

[aka_USAPA]

Got to give you credit... at least I haven't seen you use vulgarity and profanity when cornered.

[aka_USAPA]

MVP doesn't necessarily mean shit. Nash has two and how many rings did that get him? Right. Zero.

I guess Tim Duncan's 2 MVPs don't mean anthing. Ask our resident expert, peskypesky.

[Kermit]

I guess Tim Duncan's 2 MVPs don't mean anthing. Ask our resident expert, peskypesky.

Or ask Steve Nash how his MVP seasons turned out. Or Charles Barkley. Or Karl Malone. Or David Robinson.

[peskypesky]

I guess Tim Duncan's 2 MVPs don't mean anthing. Ask our resident expert, peskypesky.

ahh, but you see, Tim has 4 rings. Nash has zero. And Kobe has zero without Shaq.

[Allanon]

Got to give you credit... at least I haven't seen you use vulgarity and profanity when cornered.

Pesky's just straight out trash-talking right now. He's usually pretty reasonable and doesn't get all feisty into the name-calling.

Nobody wants to think their team is inferior. :D

[aka_USAPA]

ahh, but you see, Tim has 4 rings. Nash has zero. And Kobe has zero without Shaq.

Robert Horry has 7. That makes him better than Duncan, I guess.

[DazedAndConfused]

Wow this thread degenerated quickly.

The funny thing about these prediction threads is that they almost never turn out to be right. I've said this many times before but I feel the need to reiterate this point again.

Duncan and Kobe are the constants. Manu/Parker/Odom/Gasol/bench are the variables and that is where the game will be decided.

[aka_USAPA]

If I'm not mistaken, Steve Kerr has 3, does that make him better than Parker?

[peskypesky]

Robert Horry has 7. That makes him better than Duncan, I guess.

You can think that if you want. I think Duncan's better.

[duncan228]

Steve Kerr has 3, does that make him better than Parker?

Parker has 3 too. :p:

[peskypesky]

Steve Kerr has 3, does that make him better than Parker?

Not in my opinion, but he was a better 3pt shooter.

[peskypesky]

Parker has 3 too. :p:

good catch
:toast

[aka_USAPA]

You can think that if you want. I think Duncan's better.

That's your theory not mine. Man up now. You said it's all about the rings.

[aka_USAPA]

good catch
:toast

Does that make them equal then? According to peskypesky's theory, it does.

[aka_USAPA]

Like I said, when this series is over, I'll own this place!!!

[peskypesky]

That's your theory not mine. Man up now. You said it's all about the rings.

Who gives a shit about theories? Facts are what matters. Fact: Spurs are the Champs. Fact: Lakers will lose this series.

[aka_USAPA]

Who gives a shit about theories?

Good point, especially yours.

[duncan228]

Like I said, when this series is over, I'll own this place!!!

Damn. Exactly what the Hornets trolls said. And the Suns trolls before them. And if you're really interested in owning this place use search and see the Nuggets/Suns/Jazz trolls who all said the exact same thing last year.

I know ST is great, but there's got to be original smack talk out there somewhere.

[peskypesky]

Good point, especially yours.

I never said anything about theories. It was Laker fans who used that word. I was just stating facts.

[aka_USAPA]

Huh? You said Peja is the same level as Kobe. You said MVPs don't mean anything. Those are your words not mine.

[Trainwreck2100]

Newsflash! Kobe owned Bowen when he was DPOY. Since then, he's lost a step or two. What makes you think Bowen can keep up with Kobe and his multi-facet game?

That's never happened

[aka_USAPA]

Damn. Exactly what the Hornets trolls said. And the Suns trolls before them. And if you're really interested in owning this place use search and see the Nuggets/Suns/Jazz trolls who all said the exact same thing last year.

I know ST is great, but there's got to be original smack talk out there somewhere.

Hornet fans? Please.

[peskypesky]

Huh? You said Peja is the same level as Kobe. You said MVPs don't mean anything. Those are your words not mine.

Wrong. Never said the Peja was same level as Kobe. I said that Bowen will shut down Kobe just as he did Peja.

[aka_USAPA]

I said that Bowen will shut down Kobe just as he did Peja.

Exactly. So Peja is the same level as Kobe. Have you ever taken Logic 101? My guess is no.

[aka_USAPA]

So if there is a game 7 in L.A., Kobe will score 7 points. That's your logic.

[aka_USAPA]

See, grasshopper, you've got so much to learn in this game. Learn the game and you won't spew idiocy off your yapper.

[peskypesky]

Lakers fans are stupid and don't understand basic logic.
Bowen can stop both Peja and Kobe, even if Kobe and Peja are not equal. Just as the Spurs can beat the Lakers and the Bobcats, even though the Lakers and the Bobcats are not equal.

[aka_USAPA]

Lakers fans are stupid and don't understand basic logic.
Bowen can stop both Peja and Kobe, even if Kobe and Peja are not equal. Just as the Spurs can beat the Lakers and the Bobcats, even though the Lakers and the Bobcats are not equal.

You said Bowen will stop Kobe like he stopped Peja. That's your logic, failing to consider that Kobe is the most difficult to guard in the game because of his multi-dimensional game, and he is clutch. He is the MVP and has averaged 33 points, 6 rebounds, 7 assists, 2 steals a game. That's no where near Peja. So how will Bowen stop Kobe like he stopped Peja? The same Peja who is known to disappear in big playoff games? Explain.

[Trainwreck2100]

Learn the game and you won't spew idiocy off your yapper.

Pretty ironic coming from the guy who said


Newsflash! Kobe owned Bowen when he was DPOY. Since then, he's lost a step or two. What makes you think Bowen can keep up with Kobe and his multi-facet game?

[peskypesky]

You said Bowen will stop Kobe like he stopped Peja. That's your logic, failing to consider that Kobe is the most difficult to guard in the game because of his multi-dimensional game, and he is clutch. He is the MVP and has averaged 33 points, 6 rebounds, 7 assists, 2 steals a game. That's no where near Peja. So how will Bowen stop Kobe like he stop Peja? The same Peja who is known to disappear in big playoff games? Explain.

Bowen will frustrate Kobe. He will make it hard for Kobe to get a clean shot off. He will make it hard for Kobe to drive. He will do all the things that got him named to the all-NBA defensive team for the eigth time. Read that again. Eighth time.

[aka_USAPA]

When was the last time Bowen EVER frustrated Kobe?

[peskypesky]

When was the last time Bowen EVER frustrated Kobe?

Tomorrow night.

[aka_USAPA]

I'd love to see that, after the Spurs were at their wits end vs. the Hornets, and after losing sleep because their freakin' plane sucks!!!

[peskypesky]

I'd love to see that, after the Spurs were at their wits end vs. the Hornets, and after losing sleep because their freakin' plane sucks!!!

your team's going to need every advantage it can get.

[aka_USAPA]

Pretty ironic coming from the guy who said

For somebody who has posted as much as you, I have yet to see a post that makes sense.

[aka_USAPA]

your team's going to need every advantage it can get.

$100 that the Lakers win tomorrow. Can you afford?

[aka_USAPA]

Or the better question is, do you have enough balls to pay if you lose?

[Trainwreck2100]

For somebody who has posted as much as you, I have yet to see a post that makes sense.

it never happened

[aka_USAPA]

it never happened

I can respect that. Really!

[peskypesky]

$100 that the Lakers win tomorrow. Can you afford?

I don't bet on sports. Only idiots do that.

[Trainwreck2100]

I can respect that. Really!

I bet you it never happened if fact i'm willing to bet kobe never put up more than 25 points when Bowen was named DPOY

[aka_USAPA]

I don't bet on sports. Only idiots do that.

Hahahahahhaha. Then why am I 3-0 vs. Kings fans, and about to go 1-0 vs. MIB?

[aka_USAPA]

I bet you it never happened if fact i'm willing to bet kobe never put up more than 25 points when Bowen was named DPOY

How much? Because I'd love to prove you wrong. The stats are there. $100?

[Trainwreck2100]

How much? Because I'd love to prove you wrong. The stats are there. $100?

:lol As much as i would love your money a gentlemen;s wager. When i win you drop that "I'll own this place when the series is over" crap, it annoys me

[aka_USAPA]

Translation: I can't afford it, man!

[Trainwreck2100]

Translation: I can't afford it, man!

I'm playing with house money here

[Whisky Dog]

How much? Because I'd love to prove you wrong. The stats are there. $100?

You lose. Kobe never put up 25 on Bowen in a year that Bowen was DPOY. I'll bet you $10,000 or your life.

[aka_USAPA]

And my woman would kill me if she found out I lost $100 to a Lakers fan.

[peskypesky]

Translation: I can't afford it, man!

Only idiots bet on sports.

[aka_USAPA]

You lose. Kobe never put up 25 on Bowen in a year that Bowen was DPOY. I'll bet you $10,000 or your life.

Oh yeah? Be very careful about your statement dude. Because you are threading on thin ice.

[aka_USAPA]

For example, what was Kobe's average when Bowen was DPOY?

[aka_USAPA]

I'll take $10,000. Sure.

[Trainwreck2100]

Oh yeah? Be very careful about your statement dude. Because you are threading on thin ice.

you gonna take my bet or not?

[aka_USAPA]

The stipulation of your bet is that Kobe never scored 25 points when Bowen was DPOY. For $10,000. You owe me big time!!!!

[aka_USAPA]

Yes, I accept the bet!!!!

[aka_USAPA]

The easiest $10,000 I've ever made.

[Trainwreck2100]

The stipulation of your bet is that Kobe never scored 25 points when Bowen was DPOY. For $10,000. You owe me big time!!!!


That wasn't me, but the bet is that Kobe never scored 25 when Bruce was Defensive Player of the Year.

[Whisky Dog]

Yes, I accept the bet!!!!

Good. Done deal.

Kobe never scored 25 pts against a DPOY Bowen. That's the bet.

[aka_USAPA]

That wasn't me, but the bet is that Kobe never scored 25 when Bruce was Defensive Player of the Year.

That's right. That's the bet. Kobe never scored 25 points when Bowen was DPOY. That's the bet.

[Trainwreck2100]

Yes, I accept the bet!!!!


Alright then I win and here's the Stat to prove it

Bowen Defensive Player of the Year Awards----0

kobe never scored that many when Bowen was DPOY because Bowen has never been DPOY

House Money

[peskypesky]

Bowen was never DPOY, I don't think.

[ShoogarBear]

The easiest $10,000 I've ever made.
:lmao
:lmao
:lmao
:rollin

[peskypesky]

Alright then I win and here's the Stat to prove it

Bowen Defensive Player of the Year Awards----0

kobe never scored that many when Bowen was DPOY because Bowen has never been DPOY

House Money

:toast

[aka_USAPA]

Good. Done deal.

Kobe never scored 25 pts against a DPOY Bowen. That's the bet.

That was in 2005-06, right?

[Whisky Dog]

:lmao:lmao:lmao

No DPOY awards for Bowen.


You owe me $10,000.

FWD... get your pen and paper ready...

we're going in to collect.:greedy:greedy:greedy

:lmao

[Trainwreck2100]

That was in 2005-06, right?


Lakers didn't play Ben Wallace in the playoffs that year

[ShoogarBear]

Hey, aka_USAPA, I bet you $10 I can tell you where you got your shoes.

[Trainwreck2100]

:lmao:lmao:lmao

No DPOY awards for Bowen.


You owe me $10,000.

FWD... get your pen and paper ready...

we're going in to collect.:greedy:greedy:greedy

:lmao


Make sure you pass some of that on to me

[Whisky Dog]

Now this thread is classic.

Another fool get BOWENED.

[Whisky Dog]

All I know is the next GTG is on aka_USAPA!

[aka_USAPA]

:lmao:lmao:lmao

No DPOY awards for Bowen.


You owe me $10,000.

FWD... get your pen and paper ready...

we're going in to collect.:greedy:greedy:greedy

:lmao

The bet was about if Kobe scored 25 points when Bowen was DPOY. If he was never DPOY in the first place, I win the bet. No questions asked. It wasn't about if he won the DPOY. If Kobe socred 25 points when he was DPOY. He never was. I win.

If he ever was DPOY, when was the last time in a season Kobe didn't score 25 points????

You lose buddy.

[ShoogarBear]

By Man Law, you lost because you were the only one who didn't understand what the real question and answer were.

[Whisky Dog]

The bet was about if Kobe scored 25 points when Bowen was DPOY. If he was never DPOY in the first place, I win the bet. No questions asked. It wasn't about if he won the DPOY. If Kobe socred 25 points when he was DPOY. He never was. I win.

If he ever was DPOY, when was the last time in a season Kobe didn't score 25 points????

You lose buddy.

You can't jew your way out of this one.

Bet was Kobe never scored 25 pts on a DPOY Bowen, and he never did.

I'm assuming you have the $10,000 handy to back it up.

If not, go ahead and begin thinking about which hand you need the least...

[Trainwreck2100]

The bet was about if Kobe scored 25 points when Bowen was DPOY. If he was never DPOY in the first place, I win the bet. No questions asked. It wasn't about if he won the DPOY. If Kobe socred 25 points when he was DPOY. He never was. I win.

If he ever was DPOY, when was the last time in a season Kobe didn't score 25 points????

You lose buddy.

He never was DPOY The bet was Kobe never scored 25 on Bowen when he was DPOY. While Kobe has scored more than 25 on Bowen on numerous occasions, not one of those was during the year that bowen was DPOY

[aka_USAPA]

Simple logic. If Bowen was never DPOY, you already lost.

[Whisky Dog]

Simple logic. If Bowen was never DPOY, you already lost.


Aww, laker fan with no brains and no balls. What a surprise.

[peskypesky]

Simple logic. If Bowen was never DPOY, you already lost.

You're stupid. You still don't get it.
:rollin

[aka_USAPA]

You don't even qualify for the bet. You lose by default.

[Trainwreck2100]

Simple logic. If Bowen was never DPOY, you already lost.

simple logic. if bowen was never dpoy kobe could never score 25 points on him while he was dpoy

[Trainwreck2100]

You don't even qualify for the bet. You lose by default.

Kobe has never scored 25 points when Bruce Bowen was defensive player of the year.

[Whisky Dog]

Do all laker fans pussy out of bets like a little bitch?

[aka_USAPA]

so kobe never could have scored 25 on him.

It wasn't even about Kobe scoring 25 on him. Read up. It was about Kobe scoring 25 points when Bowen was DPOY. Bowen was never DPOY... but on the other hand, when was the last season Kobe didn't score 25 points? In his rookie season maybe (w/o looking at the stats) when nobody knew about how dirty Bowen is?

[aka_USAPA]

You lose.

[DazedAndConfused]

This thread is retarded. You should all be ashamed of yourselves, seriously.

[aka_USAPA]

Good thing I don't think MIB is like you.

[ShoogarBear]

It wasn't even about Kobe scoring 25 on him. Read up. It was about Kobe scoring 25 points when Bowen was DPOY. Bowen was never DPOY... but on the other hand, when was the last season Kobe didn't score 25 points? In his rookie season maybe (w/o looking at the stats) when nobody knew about how dirty Bowen is?

Are you a male?

If so, get your boys together, tell them the story of this bet, and see if they don't laugh their asses off at you.

[Whisky Dog]

You lose.

Spoken like a true PUSSY.

Here's the question...

You made a bet.

Are you going to keep it, PUSSY?

[Trainwreck2100]

It wasn't even about Kobe scoring 25 on him. Read up. It was about Kobe scoring 25 points when Bowen was DPOY. Bowen was never DPOY... but on the other hand, when was the last season Kobe didn't score 25 points? In his rookie season maybe (w/o looking at the stats) when nobody knew about how dirty Bowen is?

He's scores 25 points nightly. But he hasn't scored 1 point on Bruce when he was DPOY. Cause he never was.

[aka_USAPA]

If Bowen was never DPOY in the first place, you already lost. Then, you're saying Kobe never scored 25 points if and when Bowen was DPOY? You lost buddy.

[aka_USAPA]

What's the name of your lawyer, I'll have mine contact you. You know, this is all in writing, right?

[aka_USAPA]

See you in court buddy.

[ShoogarBear]

Laker Fan, representin'!

[aka_USAPA]

You owe me $10,000. See you in court.

[aka_USAPA]

This is well documented, and in writing.... You owe me $10,000. You think I'm kidding, huh?

[Trainwreck2100]

If Bowen was never DPOY in the first place, you already lost. Then, you're saying Kobe never scored 25 points if and when Bowen was DPOY? You lost buddy.

I didn't say if i said when, it was a loaded bet. I never said he never scored 25. Read

WHEN bruce was DPOY kobe didn't score 25 on him. Bruce never was so Kobe never did.

[aka_USAPA]

I didn't say if i said when, it was a loaded bet. I never said he never scored 25. Read

WHEN bruce was DPOY kobe didn't score 25 on him. Bruce never was so Kobe never did.

We'll let the court of law decide that. My lawyer will be in touch. See you in court.