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Nbadan
05-21-2008, 01:59 AM
According to Demconwatch after today, 22 KY delegates can be confidently assigned to Clinton; 11 to Obama.....(before Oregon)

This leaves Obama needing just 3.5 delegates to clinch an overall elected delegate majority (which he will get once Oregon delegates are handed out)(Obama leads 58% to 42% with 78% of votes counted thus far). It also leaves Clinton needing 162.5 delegates...

The thing is, though, that there are only 156 elected delegates left to be assigned....

(For television pundits and the math challenged, let me be clear here: 162.5 is a number greater than 156. The number of delegates Clinton needs to win an overall elected delegate majority is now greater than the number of elected delegates available. This means that Clinton cannot win an elected delegate majority. It is impossible. That means "not possible".)

Trainwreck2100
05-21-2008, 02:00 AM
According to Demconwatch after today, 22 KY delegates can be confidently assigned to Clinton; 11 to Obama.....(before Oregon)

This leaves Obama needing just 3.5 delegates to clinch an overall elected delegate majority (which he will get once Oregon delegates are handed out)(Obama leads 58% to 42% with 78% of votes counted thus far). It also leaves Clinton needing 162.5 delegates...

The thing is, though, that there are only 156 elected delegates left to be assigned....

(For television pundits and the math challenged, let me be clear here: 162.5 is a number greater than 156. The number of delegates Clinton needs to win an overall elected delegate majority is now greater than the number of elected delegates available. This means that Clinton cannot win an elected delegate majority. It is impossible. That means "not possible".)

They wouldnt have had this problem if it was winner take all

Nbadan
05-21-2008, 02:02 AM
They wouldnt have had this problem if it was winner take all

Yeah, tell that to Republicans who got stuck with McCain...

Nbadan
05-21-2008, 02:11 AM
Another M$M myth is that Obama can't win states without the support of 'working-class whites'...bullshit...Obama has won states that are primarily made up of 'working-class whites'

Oregon is pretty darn white, and not so rich

Are there any hard-working white people in Oregon? Can't possibly be the case, considering he's about to win the primary there today.

Ranked by per-capita income, Oregon is ranked 23rd in the nation, two slots behind Ohio, and a single slot ahead of Pennsylvania. And since Ohio and Pennsylvania are apparently the gold standard of white working class-ness in this election, Oregon is little different than those two on the economic front.

Oregon is also a white state. According to 2005 census projections, Oregon is 9.38 percent Hispanic, 2.38 percent black, 2.44 percent pacific islander, 0.5 percent Native American, and 4.25 percent Asian. That's about 81 percent Anglo.

In fact, let's look at the whitest states in the nation according to recent Census estimates:

1. Maine (Obama)
2. Vermont (Obama)
3. West Virginia (Clinton)
4. New Hampshire (Clinton)
5. Iowa (Obama)
6. North Dakota (Obama)
7. Montana
8. Kentucky (Clinton)
9. Wyoming (Obama)
10. Idaho (Obama)

The list above excludes HIspanics, which are considered racially white, but ethnically different.

Let's look at the rankings of states including Hispanic whites. Remember, Obama is supposed to have just as much a problem with Hispanics as he is with non-Hispanic whites:

1. Vermont (Obama)
2. Maine (Obama)
3. New Hampshire (Clinton)
4. Idaho (Obama)
5. West Virginia (Clinton)
6. Iowa (Obama)
7. Wyoming (Obama)
8. Utah (Obama)
9. North Dakota (Obama)
10. Nebraska (Obama)

11th is Montana, and guess which state is 12th? That's right....Oregon...

http://images.dailykos.com/images/user/3/Obama_Portland_rally.jpg

Trainwreck2100
05-21-2008, 02:15 AM
Yeah, tell that to Republicans who got stuck with McCain...

That's the way the general election is won. Dems(mostly hillary) lost money and time just wating for the inevitable to happen.

ChumpDumper
05-21-2008, 02:24 AM
Are there any hard-working white people in Oregon? Can't possibly be the case, considering he's about to win the primary there today.Wild Cobra and tlong II live there.

Nbadan
05-21-2008, 02:44 AM
hard-working


Wild Cobra and tlong II live there.

There you go...

George Gervin's Afro
05-21-2008, 09:01 AM
Another M$M myth is that Obama can't win states without the support of 'working-class whites'...bullshit...Obama has won states that are primarily made up of 'working-class whites'

Oregon is pretty darn white, and not so rich

Are there any hard-working white people in Oregon? Can't possibly be the case, considering he's about to win the primary there today.

Ranked by per-capita income, Oregon is ranked 23rd in the nation, two slots behind Ohio, and a single slot ahead of Pennsylvania. And since Ohio and Pennsylvania are apparently the gold standard of white working class-ness in this election, Oregon is little different than those two on the economic front.

Oregon is also a white state. According to 2005 census projections, Oregon is 9.38 percent Hispanic, 2.38 percent black, 2.44 percent pacific islander, 0.5 percent Native American, and 4.25 percent Asian. That's about 81 percent Anglo.

In fact, let's look at the whitest states in the nation according to recent Census estimates:

1. Maine (Obama)
2. Vermont (Obama)
3. West Virginia (Clinton)
4. New Hampshire (Clinton)
5. Iowa (Obama)
6. North Dakota (Obama)
7. Montana
8. Kentucky (Clinton)
9. Wyoming (Obama)
10. Idaho (Obama)

The list above excludes HIspanics, which are considered racially white, but ethnically different.

Let's look at the rankings of states including Hispanic whites. Remember, Obama is supposed to have just as much a problem with Hispanics as he is with non-Hispanic whites:

1. Vermont (Obama)
2. Maine (Obama)
3. New Hampshire (Clinton)
4. Idaho (Obama)
5. West Virginia (Clinton)
6. Iowa (Obama)
7. Wyoming (Obama)
8. Utah (Obama)
9. North Dakota (Obama)
10. Nebraska (Obama)

11th is Montana, and guess which state is 12th? That's right....Oregon...

http://images.dailykos.com/images/user/3/Obama_Portland_rally.jpg

Dan is in denial. Obama has, and will have, a very difficult time time the working class white folks.. sad but true.

George Gervin's Afro
05-21-2008, 09:03 AM
The better question for dan is how exactly will obama make up 35 and 41 points in the states bill clinton won. These losses are dealing with democrats!..Is he going to show up and woo them now with his great smile and polished speeches?

JoeChalupa
05-21-2008, 09:17 AM
I have confidence in the American people.

ClingingMars
05-21-2008, 03:15 PM
Oregon is the only state in which suicide is allowed. don't think any democrat will have a problem there.

- Mars

Nbadan
05-21-2008, 03:50 PM
The better question for dan is how exactly will obama make up 35 and 41 points in the states bill clinton won. These losses are dealing with democrats!..Is he going to show up and woo them now with his great smile and polished speeches?

Obama doesn't need to 'make up' anything to win the general election


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