View Full Version : New Poll shows Obama over McCain
JoeChalupa
05-21-2008, 09:16 AM
Obama leads McCain (http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080521/pl_nm/usa_poll_politics_dc&printer=1;_ylt=AoUWKXfLnAvzNJIk9iyLkeob.3QA)
Obama leads McCain in November match: Reuters poll
By John Whitesides, Political Correspondent2 hours, 56 minutes ago
Democrat Barack Obama has opened an 8-point national lead on Republican John McCain as the U.S. presidential rivals turn their focus to a general election race, according to a Reuters/Zogby poll released on Wednesday.
Obama, who was tied with McCain in a hypothetical head-to-head matchup last month, moved to a 48 percent to 40 percent lead over the Arizona senator in May as he took command of his grueling Democratic presidential duel with rival Hillary Clinton.
The Illinois senator has not yet secured the Democratic presidential nomination to run against McCain in November.
The poll also found Obama expanded his lead over Clinton in the Democratic race to 26 percentage points, doubling his advantage from mid-April as Democrats begin to coalesce around Obama and prepare for the general election battle with McCain.
"Obama has been very resilient, bouncing back from rough periods and doing very well with independent voters," pollster John Zogby said. "The race with McCain is going to be very competitive."
The poll was taken Thursday through Sunday during a period when Obama came under attack from President George W. Bush and McCain for his promise to talk to hostile foreign leaders without preconditions.
Obama's gains followed a month in which he was plagued with a series of campaign controversies and suffered two big losses to Clinton in Pennsylvania and West Virginia.
The poll was conducted after Obama denounced his former pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, who made a series of public appearances that rekindled a controversy over his inflammatory comments on race and religion.
Obama also survived a furor over his comments about "bitter" small-town residents who cling to guns and religion out of frustration over their economic concerns.
Obama edged closer to clinching the Democratic nomination on Tuesday when he split two nominating contests with Clinton, beating the New York senator in Oregon and losing in Kentucky to gain a majority of pledged delegates won in state-by-state nominating contests.
The results put him within easy range of the 2,026 delegates needed for the nomination. Just three Democratic nominating contests remain before voting concludes on June 3.
OBAMA BETTER ON ECONOMY
The poll found Obama was seen as a better steward of the economy than McCain, leading 48 percent to 39 percent. McCain led Obama by 3 points last month on an issue that is certain to be crucial in their campaign.
Obama led McCain among independents, 47 percent to 35 percent, and led among some groups of voters who have backed Clinton during their Democratic primary battle, including Catholics, Jews, union households and voters making less than $35,000 a year.
McCain led among whites, NASCAR fans, and elderly voters. McCain led with voters who believed the United States was on the right track, and Obama led with the much higher percentage of voters who believed it was on the wrong track.
"Clearly voters are looking for change. Every problem Obama has had in consolidating his base and reaching to the center, John McCain has the same sort of problem," Zogby said.
"It's McCain's lead among voters over the age of 65 that is keeping him within shouting distance of Obama," he said.
The poll found Clinton, who has shrugged off calls to quit the Democratic race, tied at 43 percent with McCain in the national poll. She led McCain by 47 percent to 40 percent on who would be the better manager of the economy.
Obama and Clinton have refrained from attacking each other in recent weeks as Obama has turned his focus to McCain.
But Zogby said the attacks on Obama by Bush and McCain, who have been critical of his willingness to talk to leaders of countries like Iran, did not appear to hurt Obama. If anything, he said, it reminded voters of McCain's ties to Bush, whose approval rating is still mired at record lows.
"The president is so unpopular. To inject himself into a presidential campaign does not help John McCain, particularly when McCain is tied to Bush," Zogby said.
The national survey of 516 likely Democratic primary voters had a margin of error of 4.4 percentage points. The poll of the national race between McCain and the two Democratic contenders surveyed 1,076 likely voters with a margin of error of 3 percentage points.
America is waking up!!
01.20.09
05-21-2008, 01:59 PM
The most recent Zogby poll has Obama with a ten point lead over MCain and has him winning independent voters by a very wide margin. This is why Obama has always been a stronger candidate than Clinton. His support among independents and Republicans has always been greater.
I expect McCain's numbers to drop even further as the months go by.
xrayzebra
05-21-2008, 02:10 PM
Is it already November. Time does fly.
I even missed the dimm-o-crap convention.
ClingingMars
05-21-2008, 03:23 PM
we haven't had any debates yet, and Obama hasn't even won yet.
:corn:
- Mars
Nbadan
05-21-2008, 03:32 PM
Is it already November. Time does fly.
I even missed the dimm-o-crap convention.
http://www.simpsoncrazy.com/gallery/screenshots/lists/news_198.jpg
clambake
05-21-2008, 03:34 PM
http://www.simpsoncrazy.com/gallery/screenshots/lists/news_198.jpg
:lmao
xrayzebra
05-21-2008, 03:36 PM
:lmao
Why would anyone yell at cloud? Sounds like a
dimm-o-crap yelling at oilco exe about why they cant
get more oil to bring price down.
clambake
05-21-2008, 03:39 PM
why do you have to bring your complete misunderstanding of oil production into every thread?
JoeChalupa
05-21-2008, 03:49 PM
There isn't anything ANY president can really do about Oil prices and talking to the Oil execs is just a political ploy.
clambake
05-21-2008, 03:56 PM
There isn't anything ANY president can really do about Oil prices and talking to the Oil execs is just a political ploy.
when you find yourself summoned by capitol hill, and can't answer the question of personnal compensation from this windfall monopoly, you just might run into a president that cares about his/her countrymen.
there will be change.
jochhejaam
05-21-2008, 08:12 PM
It's way too early to be putting much stock in the polls. The latest Ramussen Poll has McCain leading Obama 45 to 44 percent.
Daily Presidential Tracking Poll
Wednesday, May 21, 2008
The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Wednesday shows John McCain earning 45% of the vote while Barack Obama attracts 44%. This is the eleventh time in the last twelve days that the candidates have been within a single percentage point of each other. McCain has held a statistically insignificant lead on four of the last five days. Prior to that, it was Obama with an equally insignificant lead for ten straight days (see recent daily results). Tracking Poll results are updated daily at 9:30 a.m. Eastern.
New polling released today shows that Obama has opened a modest lead over McCain in Colorado. Democrats also have a reason to smile about new polling on that state’s Senate race. At 10:30 a.m. Eastern, Rasmussen Reports will release new polling data from Florida. At noon Eastern, national polling will be released on the importance of Supreme Court appointments in Election 2008.
Obama is viewed favorably by 50% of voters nationwide and unfavorably by 48%. McCain’s numbers are 49% favorable and 47% unfavorable Opinions about Obama remain stronger. The likely Democratic nominee is viewed Very Favorably by 28% of voters and Very Unfavorably by 33%. For McCain, the numbers are 18% Very Favorable and 22% Very Unfavorable (see recent daily ratings).
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/daily_presidential_tracking_poll
Hope I didn't bust your Obubble Joe. <it's too early>
xrayzebra
05-22-2008, 10:36 AM
when you find yourself summoned by capitol hill, and can't answer the question of personnal compensation from this windfall monopoly, you just might run into a president that cares about his/her countrymen.
there will be change.
Clam, what does personal compensation have to do with
OILCO's producing more oil.
And what part of production do I not understand? Are
you an expert in the field. If so would you share some
of your expertise with the rest of us.
When you limit the drilling you are also limiting supply if
I still remember basic economics. Funny thing happen on
the way to the oil field. China and Cuba is drilling where
our government says our OILCO's cant.
I only hope that China and Cuba are not to proficient in
slant drilling. If and when we get ready to let someone
drill our area, it may be registering empty.
xrayzebra
05-22-2008, 10:40 AM
when you find yourself summoned by capitol hill, and can't answer the question of personnal compensation from this windfall monopoly, you just might run into a president that cares about his/her countrymen.
there will be change.
There has been change, that is why oil prices are on the
way up, up and away. Your government at work. Now
there are some real experts. Experts in all things, yes sir,
that is what they be.
If we could can their BS we would have more power and
energy than we would ever need. Guess we could always
move Congress out to West Texas then the wind generators
would always have enough wind to keep them turning.
ipeefreely
05-22-2008, 10:46 AM
Obama leads McCain (http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080521/pl_nm/usa_poll_politics_dc&printer=1;_ylt=AoUWKXfLnAvzNJIk9iyLkeob.3QA)
Obama leads McCain in November match: Reuters poll
By John Whitesides, Political Correspondent2 hours, 56 minutes ago
Democrat Barack Obama has opened an 8-point national lead on Republican John McCain as the U.S. presidential rivals turn their focus to a general election race, according to a Reuters/Zogby poll released on Wednesday.
Obama, who was tied with McCain in a hypothetical head-to-head matchup last month, moved to a 48 percent to 40 percent lead over the Arizona senator in May as he took command of his grueling Democratic presidential duel with rival Hillary Clinton.
The Illinois senator has not yet secured the Democratic presidential nomination to run against McCain in November.
The poll also found Obama expanded his lead over Clinton in the Democratic race to 26 percentage points, doubling his advantage from mid-April as Democrats begin to coalesce around Obama and prepare for the general election battle with McCain.
"Obama has been very resilient, bouncing back from rough periods and doing very well with independent voters," pollster John Zogby said. "The race with McCain is going to be very competitive."
The poll was taken Thursday through Sunday during a period when Obama came under attack from President George W. Bush and McCain for his promise to talk to hostile foreign leaders without preconditions.
Obama's gains followed a month in which he was plagued with a series of campaign controversies and suffered two big losses to Clinton in Pennsylvania and West Virginia.
The poll was conducted after Obama denounced his former pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, who made a series of public appearances that rekindled a controversy over his inflammatory comments on race and religion.
Obama also survived a furor over his comments about "bitter" small-town residents who cling to guns and religion out of frustration over their economic concerns.
Obama edged closer to clinching the Democratic nomination on Tuesday when he split two nominating contests with Clinton, beating the New York senator in Oregon and losing in Kentucky to gain a majority of pledged delegates won in state-by-state nominating contests.
The results put him within easy range of the 2,026 delegates needed for the nomination. Just three Democratic nominating contests remain before voting concludes on June 3.
OBAMA BETTER ON ECONOMY
The poll found Obama was seen as a better steward of the economy than McCain, leading 48 percent to 39 percent. McCain led Obama by 3 points last month on an issue that is certain to be crucial in their campaign.
Obama led McCain among independents, 47 percent to 35 percent, and led among some groups of voters who have backed Clinton during their Democratic primary battle, including Catholics, Jews, union households and voters making less than $35,000 a year.
McCain led among whites, NASCAR fans, and elderly voters. McCain led with voters who believed the United States was on the right track, and Obama led with the much higher percentage of voters who believed it was on the wrong track.
"Clearly voters are looking for change. Every problem Obama has had in consolidating his base and reaching to the center, John McCain has the same sort of problem," Zogby said.
"It's McCain's lead among voters over the age of 65 that is keeping him within shouting distance of Obama," he said.
The poll found Clinton, who has shrugged off calls to quit the Democratic race, tied at 43 percent with McCain in the national poll. She led McCain by 47 percent to 40 percent on who would be the better manager of the economy.
Obama and Clinton have refrained from attacking each other in recent weeks as Obama has turned his focus to McCain.
But Zogby said the attacks on Obama by Bush and McCain, who have been critical of his willingness to talk to leaders of countries like Iran, did not appear to hurt Obama. If anything, he said, it reminded voters of McCain's ties to Bush, whose approval rating is still mired at record lows.
"The president is so unpopular. To inject himself into a presidential campaign does not help John McCain, particularly when McCain is tied to Bush," Zogby said.
The national survey of 516 likely Democratic primary voters had a margin of error of 4.4 percentage points. The poll of the national race between McCain and the two Democratic contenders surveyed 1,076 likely voters with a margin of error of 3 percentage points.
America is waking up!!
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LOL another person that has had some of Obamas Kool-Aid...
Let me guess, you think by giving you some tax relief that your world is going to improve? How about when he takes the basis rate on taxes to Corporations from 35% tax to 42% and your job is eliminated? Will you still be glad voted for this poser?
Dig a little deeper, find out what his receipe for economic change really is...if you work for a guy who started his own business, and or a small company than understand any relief you experience will come at your employers expense, thus no raises for U, but you will get some tax relief, wont that be nice, dont spend all $ 200 in one place or at one gas station......:bang
LOL, the kool-aid has been poured....:downspin:
clambake
05-22-2008, 11:11 AM
Clam, what does personal compensation have to do with
OILCO's producing more oil.
And what part of production do I not understand? Are
you an expert in the field. If so would you share some
of your expertise with the rest of us.
When you limit the drilling you are also limiting supply if
I still remember basic economics. Funny thing happen on
the way to the oil field. China and Cuba is drilling where
our government says our OILCO's cant.
I only hope that China and Cuba are not to proficient in
slant drilling. If and when we get ready to let someone
drill our area, it may be registering empty.
once again, you have brought your complete misunderstanding about oil production and the way american oil conducts its business.
you didn't even watch the capitol hill debacle, yet you still offer to carry their water.
if you had watched, you would have seen the disgustingly rich declaring poverty. but you don't care, and you don't know anything about the goals of american oil companies.
Ludovician
05-22-2008, 11:32 AM
I don't put much stock in general election polls before the two conventions.
MannyIsGod
05-22-2008, 12:22 PM
LOL I've been saying its way to early to pick up on polls and I still believe that its just funny to hear people say that after they've been saying the opposite.
Its also funny to see Mars talk about debates. Obama is a below average debater and I promise you McCain is a billion times worse. I'm telling you right now, who wants to lay bets on the election? Lets go!
possessed
05-22-2008, 07:24 PM
LOL I've been saying its way to early to pick up on polls and I still believe that its just funny to hear people say that after they've been saying the opposite.
Its also funny to see Mars talk about debates. Obama is a below average debater and I promise you McCain is a billion times worse. I'm telling you right now, who wants to lay bets on the election? Lets go!
How was Bush as a debater, in your opinion?
clambake
05-22-2008, 07:48 PM
How was Bush as a debater, in your opinion?
he is a damned good liar, but we all know that now.
possessed
05-22-2008, 07:49 PM
he is a damned good liar, but we all know that now.
That wasn't the question.
Mr. Peabody
05-22-2008, 08:13 PM
http://www.simpsoncrazy.com/gallery/screenshots/lists/news_198.jpg
:lol
That was good.
Clandestino
05-22-2008, 08:50 PM
LOL! Obama will not win the election. There are WAY, WAY, WAAAAY too many people who will not vote for a black man. Plus all the Hillary lovers will not vote for Obama. Plus, we've seen how Hillarys attack ads have disturbed him. I can't wait to see the Republican machine rip into him.
The Republicans will win again!
Btw, fuck polls. Haven't we learned anything yet?
Don Quixote
05-22-2008, 10:53 PM
Yes, I would agree that the Dems are in a pickle right now. Are they experiencing buyer's remorse over boosting St. Barry to the nomination so quickly? Surely, he'll have trouble winning over blue-collar workers and women. And I'm not sure he wins the "national security" vote over McCain. His weaknesses have nothing to do with his skin color, though. On the other hand, should the delegates go with Hillary? Half the country hates her! So McCain still has a good shot at this thing.
But ... Democrats running for Congress figure to have a good year, too.
Anti.Hero
05-22-2008, 11:29 PM
LOL! Obama will not win the election. There are WAY, WAY, WAAAAY too many people who will not vote for a black man. Plus all the Hillary lovers will not vote for Obama. Plus, we've seen how Hillarys attack ads have disturbed him. I can't wait to see the Republican machine rip into him.
The Republicans will win again!
Btw, fuck polls. Haven't we learned anything yet?
Look who the repubs put out as their candidate ffs. They are grossly overrated.
MannyIsGod
05-22-2008, 11:35 PM
How was Bush as a debater, in your opinion?
Thats not the point. Someone above pointed to debates as something that was going to get McCain over the hump so to speak. No one pointed to the debates as a strength for Bush and no one should do so for McCain.
Actually at this point I'm not sure what you point to as a strength of McCain.
MannyIsGod
05-22-2008, 11:36 PM
LOL! Obama will not win the election. There are WAY, WAY, WAAAAY too many people who will not vote for a black man. Plus all the Hillary lovers will not vote for Obama. Plus, we've seen how Hillarys attack ads have disturbed him. I can't wait to see the Republican machine rip into him.
The Republicans will win again!
Btw, fuck polls. Haven't we learned anything yet?
Wanna put your money where your mouth is?
possessed
05-22-2008, 11:52 PM
Thats not the point. Someone above pointed to debates as something that was going to get McCain over the hump so to speak. No one pointed to the debates as a strength for Bush and no one should do so for McCain.
Actually at this point I'm not sure what you point to as a strength of McCain.
Experience. And by that I don't necessarily mean how many years he's been in the Senate, but the fact that he's been a very vocal, outspoken member and can point to getting more accomplished and pushing more items through the Senate, whereas Obama seems to be all flash and no substance.
There's one possible strength, I can't think of many more. McCain and Obama both have their strengths and weaknesses, only a blind hack would think their candidate is perfect or the second coming in this election and the other has nothing going for it.
I'm leaning a certain way, but I have to say that I'm undecided, as many should be. There's way to much to discuss between now and November to settle on one of these lousy candidates.
Trainwreck2100
05-23-2008, 12:21 AM
I'd love to see if any of Hillary's supporters cross lines or don't vote at all.
Don Quixote
05-23-2008, 07:44 AM
Well, I'm not sure if many Clintonistas here on ST or the blogosphere will, indeed, cross lines. The question is, will enough of middle- or lower-class, blue-collar Democrats indeed stay home this fall if Obama is the nominee? That's the big question.
JoeChalupa
05-23-2008, 08:14 AM
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LOL another person that has had some of Obamas Kool-Aid...
Let me guess, you think by giving you some tax relief that your world is going to improve? How about when he takes the basis rate on taxes to Corporations from 35% tax to 42% and your job is eliminated? Will you still be glad voted for this poser?
Dig a little deeper, find out what his receipe for economic change really is...if you work for a guy who started his own business, and or a small company than understand any relief you experience will come at your employers expense, thus no raises for U, but you will get some tax relief, wont that be nice, dont spend all $ 200 in one place or at one gas station......:bang
LOL, the kool-aid has been poured....:downspin:
Yes, I'll be glad I voted for Obama just like I'm glad I voted for Kerry and not another 4 yrs of Dubya.
You are just drinking too much of that red colored repulican conservative big spending kool-aid. You really need to lay off of it and open your eyes to the reality and the consequences of the past 7 yrs.
Oil was what....$24 a barrel when the Iraq war started?
Are you happy now?
Ignignokt
05-23-2008, 08:36 AM
obama...
kool aid....
crofl!!
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