From the Washington Post

[GhostofAlfrederickHughes]

Another in the annual series of "Let's define the Spurs as boring again, so the casual fan knows who to root against" columns:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/05/20/AR2008052001913.html

Why America Hates the Spurs
By Mike Wise
Wednesday, May 21, 2008; E01

"I don't understand -- why don't people like us?" Bruce Bowen (http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/related/topic/Bruce+Bowen?tid=informline) asked.
You really want to know?
"Go ahead."
Because you and the mean ol' San Antonio Spurs (http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/related/topic/San+Antonio+Spurs?tid=informline) ruin happy endings for players and teams whom fans want to see keep playing. Oh, and also because you're too reliable and humble, in a league where mouthy and enigmatic happens.
"Is that it?" the Spurs' veteran forward said. "We're not who people want to see? That's funny, because when Ron Artest (http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/related/topic/Ron+Artest?tid=informline) was having issues and the league was having image problems, all you heard was, 'Why can't teams be more like the Spurs?'
"The public thinks they want other things -- all the chest-pounding and screaming. But at the end of the day, quietly, parents want their kids to grow up in a way that they work hard, keep their mouth shut and act like you've been there before."
Bowen spoke from his cellphone in New Orleans (http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/related/topic/New+Orleans+Hornets?tid=informline) on Monday night, three hours before his team methodically knocked out the Hornets in Game 7 of the Western Conference semifinals -- three hours before a player less than a month away from 37 years old, maybe the premier perimeter defender in NBA history, frustrated Chris Paul (http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/related/topic/Chris+Paul?tid=informline) and some bold kid named Jannero Pargo, who thought he was going to save the day for New Orleans before Bowen got in his grille late and the rickety Spurs sent a bunch of postseason adolescents home for the season.
Palms out, feet shuffling laterally, limbs fluttering like bat wings, Bowen was a microcosm of the franchise the past decade -- that annoying insect impossible to shoo away.
"We're goin' back to Podunk, Texas, again," Charles Barkley (http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/related/topic/Charles+Barkley?tid=informline) bemoaned, shaking his head in mock disgust on TNT after San Antonio held off New Orleans. Summing up most NBA fans' feelings outside south Texas, Barkley added: "Damn. They're like cockroaches. They won't die."
Watching the Spurs reject another marketable NBA plot -- this one featured young Chris Paul and the city he helped raise from Hurricane Katrina's ruin (a big seller at the All-Star Game in February) -- it's becoming clear that Bowen, Tim Duncan (http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/related/topic/Tim+Duncan?tid=informline) and their teammates are this millennium's Larry Holmes.
The Spurs are among the least- loved champions in the history of sport, right alongside Holmes, the former heavyweight great who had the misfortune of following boxing's king of kings, Muhammad Ali (http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/related/topic/Muhammad+Ali?tid=informline).
They've got what Grant Hill (http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/related/topic/Grant+Hill?tid=informline) once actually called "Larry Holmes syndrome." He used the term to describe the impossible responsibility he, Jerry Stackhouse (http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/related/topic/Jerry+Stackhouse?tid=informline) and other young skywalkers had following in Michael Jordan (http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/related/topic/Michael+Jordan?tid=informline)'s footsteps. But it's just as apt for the Spurs, who in 1999 became the first team to win a championship after Jordan and the Incredi-Bulls -- San Antonio's first of four titles the past decade.
Like Holmes, they have learned that coming after the greatest is more burden than blessing.
In succeeding Jordan, the Spurs have not just taken out their share of white hopes (dumping Dirk Nowitzki (http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/related/topic/Dirk+Nowitzki?tid=informline) and Dallas, bloodying and hip-checking Steve Nash (http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/related/topic/Steve+Nash?tid=informline) and the Phoenix Suns (http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/related/topic/Phoenix+Suns?tid=informline) out of the playoffs in consecutive years); they're the small-market spoilers, annually crushing a young superstar's dreams.
Before Paul, the Spurs outlasted Shaquille O'Neal (http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/related/topic/Shaquille+O%27Neal?tid=informline) and Kobe Bryant (http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/related/topic/Kobe+Bryant?tid=informline)'s dysfunctional dynasty; they swept aside the league's new golden child, LeBron James (http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/related/topic/LeBron+James?tid=informline), in four games last June; and they have played in some of the most ratings-challenged NBA Finals (http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/related/topic/National+Basketball+Association?tid=informline) in memory, including a yawner against the Nets (http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/related/topic/New+Jersey+Nets?tid=informline) in 2003.
If they can send a reinvigorated Bryant and the Lakers (http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/related/topic/Los+Angeles+Lakers?tid=informline) packing in the Western Conference finals, they will have successfully removed Shaq and Kobe from the playoffs again while simultaneously ruining the best Finals story line David Stern (http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/related/topic/David+Stern?tid=informline) could imagine:
Lakers-Celtics Redux -- Kobe and the Lake Show vs. Kevin Garnett (http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/related/topic/Kevin+Garnett?tid=informline) and Boston, 21 years after Magic (http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/related/topic/Orlando+Magic?tid=informline)'s junior sky hook buried Bird.
What is it about the Spurs, always beating the players and teams America wants to see win?
"Part of it is the selling of the sensational," Bowen said. "Like: 'Oh my gosh! Look at that guy pound his chest after he made that basket.' We're not Vegas. We don't have this me-against-the-world attitude. But that's what sells now. So they need to come up with labels for us."
Like, boring and dirty?
"Exactly," Bowen added. "Look at Robert Horry (http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/related/topic/Robert+Horry?tid=informline). In San Antonio he's a dirty player. But he wasn't dirty when he played in L.A. Why is that?"
Indeed, Horry was a clutch player for the Lakers who took and made all the pressure shots. But in San Antonio, the player known as Big Shot Rob has suddenly become "Cheap Shot Bob," as Yahoo (http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/related/topic/Yahoo%21+Inc.?tid=informline) Sports's Adrian Wojnarowski dubbed Horry after the veteran had the temerity to set a back pick on David West (http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/related/topic/David+West?tid=informline), a Hornets player with a bad back, who went down in Game 6 almost as hard as New Orleans in Game 7.
"Look at my reputation. It's easy to say, 'He's dirty,' " Bowen said. "But what defines dirty? Because I play defense against a guy whose job is to score on me at will? You don't see me going out hitting anyone, but it's amazing when you deal with certain darlings in the league and the perception that they're supposed to score."
Another reason the country turns on San Antonio is because of Duncan's unemotional on-court demeanor. He makes Alan Greenspan (http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/related/topic/Alan+Greenspan?tid=informline) look like a hard partyer. Spock on antidepressants is more exciting.
But the real reason is that the Spurs continue to resemble the old geezers who show up at the YMCA (http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/related/topic/YMCA?tid=informline) each weekend, yell "Next!" and somehow figure out a way to hold the court against a bunch of uppity kids. After three straight blowouts in New Orleans, their season on the brink, the Spurs again made do in Game 7.
They basically made younger, superior athletes with fresher legs play their way, slowing down the game, making every possession count. It was like taking a hyperactive kid off his medication, until he became so antsy and frustrated he didn't know what to do except sulk and go away. They specialize in making supernovas burn out before their time. And like Barkley said, they won't die.
Poor Kobe. He's got next.

[lefty]

:lmao

[Anti.Hero]

I liked it.

[xtremesteven33]

you know, i used to hate all this hating of the spurs from the media. but now im starting to LOVE it. crush the dreams of these journalists...haha

[mVp]

three hours before a player less than a month away from 37 years old, maybe the premier perimeter defender in NBA history, frustrated Chris Paul (http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/related/topic/Chris+Paul?tid=informline) and some bold kid named Jannero Pargo, who thought he was going to save the day for New Orleans before Bowen got in his grille late and the rickety Spurs sent a bunch of postseason adolescents home for the season.

LOL I loved that part :lol

[miss paxton]

This actually was a somewhat unusual opinion piece, in that the writer bothered to interview a Spurs player and have a discussion about the perception that they're dirty dream-crushers. For that alone I appreciate it.

[mVp]

Bruce was spot on in that interview.

[SpurYank]

I live in this area and read about this all the time. The biggest Spur Hater here is Tony Kornheiser, who believes the only teams that should EVER play for the NBA title are his Knicks, the Lakers, and the Celtics. Because this hasn't been happening recently, you will notice that he seldom watches NBA games, preferring to go to bed when Wilbon asks him what games he's gonna watch. Yet he can always say on his show how boring the Spurs are.

The Wizards coach, Jordan, thinks the Spurs are the best.

[ElNono]

The media already tried the 'good guys' angle, and it didn't work. So now they're trying the 'bad boys' angle. Nothing wrong with that.

[urunobili]

gr8 article thanks for sharing!

[baseline bum]

I don't recall anyone thinking Tim Duncan was boring when he was playing on the East coast for Wake Forest. Fucking media.

[MarceloM!]

All that thing about hating Spurs... is it because Spurs are from Texas? because there is many latino people shouting for the Spurs? because it's a franchise based on international players that kick asses? why? can you tell me why these feeling against Spurs team? is there some homophobic thing? or is it just a technical issue only?

[xtremesteven33]

Tim Duncan would be God if he was drafted by the Celtics

[xtremesteven33]

Ginobili would be Cousy incarnate if he played for the Celtics

[wildbill2u]

Having played with a bunch of geezers with fundamentally good skills and BB IQ against younger more athletic teams, I can say it is incredibly sweet to call, "NEXT"

[Anti.Hero]

I live in this area and read about this all the time. The biggest Spur Hater here is Tony Kornheiser, who believes the only teams that should EVER play for the NBA title are his Knicks, the Lakers, and the Celtics. Because this hasn't been happening recently, you will notice that he seldom watches NBA games, preferring to go to bed when Wilbon asks him what games he's gonna watch. Yet he can always say on his show how boring the Spurs are.

The Wizards coach, Jordan, thinks the Spurs are the best.

The funny thing is Kornheiser has started to say "I like the Spurs, but everyone hates them. I don't get it."

He's a clown.

[SPARKY]

Music to my eyes.

[Homeland Security]

As if it weren't bad enough that the Mexicans are stealing American jobs, they're stealing American NBA championships too!

[CubanMustGo]

This was actually a pretty good article. Basically "you hate the Spurs because all they do is clean your team's clock and there's not a damned thing you can do but bend over and say 'thank you, may I have another.' "

[easjer]

I enjoyed this article a lot, especially that he interviewed Bowen.

[GrandeDavid]

I don't recall anyone thinking Tim Duncan was boring when he was playing on the East coast for Wake Forest. Fucking media.

I also don't recall any of these bandwagoning, sackless, ball lickers not salivating over Tim Duncan when he came out of college.

[O-Factor]

I liked this article. Nice retorts by The Bruce

[AmarilloDoc]

It's similar to the Yankees, Patriots, Cowboys, etc. When a team is consistently good, many fans get tired of then winning all of the time. I think the Spurs are victims of the underdog syndrome, where casual fans always want the unknown team to win.

In any era prior to the '80s Lakers, the Spurs would be universally admired for their teamwork, awesome defense, and ego-less players. Society has become all about the individual, so the Spurs buck that trend and are often vilified for it.

[MoSpur]

Best article I've read in a long time.

[spursfan09]

Well who said the Spurs were in this to gain fans and love?

[Supreme_Being]

Now, that was great.

[boutons_]

Great headline, will draw the Spurs haters like flies on sh!t, and trap them in an article that makes the Spurs smell oh so sweet.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

I don't recall anyone thinking Tim Duncan was boring when he was playing on the East coast for Wake Forest. Fucking media.

Ding ding ding...

[K-State Spur]

i liked it.

you're starting to see more articles like this.

the sportswriters who just flat out call the spurs (or the pistons) boring risk exposing themselves as - at best - just a casual fan who really doesn't understand the game, ball movement, or defense.

[beachwood]

Muaahahahahaha

[1Parker1]

"Look at my reputation. It's easy to say, 'He's dirty,' " Bowen said. "But what defines dirty? Because I play defense against a guy whose job is to score on me at will? You don't see me going out hitting anyone, but it's amazing when you deal with certain darlings in the league and the perception that they're supposed to score."

I can't imagine Bowen saying stuff like this in an interview...especially the part about dealing with "Certain darlings" in the league.

[703 Spurz]

I live in this area and read about this all the time. The biggest Spur Hater here is Tony Kornheiser, who believes the only teams that should EVER play for the NBA title are his Knicks, the Lakers, and the Celtics. Because this hasn't been happening recently, you will notice that he seldom watches NBA games, preferring to go to bed when Wilbon asks him what games he's gonna watch. Yet he can always say on his show how boring the Spurs are.

The Wizards coach, Jordan, thinks the Spurs are the best.

Kornheiser isn't a basketball fan. So when he says he wants to see the Lakers and Celtics, that's casual fan talk. Dude doesn't really give a fuck about who plays. He won't even be awake when the games are played anyway

[703 Spurz]

It's similar to the Yankees, Patriots, Cowboys, etc. When a team is consistently good, many fans get tired of then winning all of the time. I think the Spurs are victims of the underdog syndrome, where casual fans always want the unknown team to win.

In any era prior to the '80s Lakers, the Spurs would be universally admired for their teamwork, awesome defense, and ego-less players. Society has become all about the individual, so the Spurs buck that trend and are often vilified for it.

I hated the Bulls and Yankees for winning all the time too. I totally get where all those douchebags are coming from. Fuck' em though

[Zig]

But the real reason is that the Spurs continue to resemble the old geezers who show up at the YMCA (http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/related/topic/YMCA?tid=informline) each weekend, yell "Next!" and somehow figure out a way to hold the court against a bunch of uppity kids.

This is exactly correct! This is the perfect description of what the Spurs do to you.

Those old fuckers at the YMCA used to piss me off....now I'm one of them!

[TampaDude]

I'm glad so many people hate the Spurs...that's how you know you're a DYNASTY. :hat

[Sense]

That was great..... wow I was waiting for one of these articles to pop up.... and Bruce said it best...

[jmard5]

Great read. An anti-Spurs article but written down in a positive way. Uhm. Am I making sense? :lol

[Saguaro]

I'm glad so many people hate the Spurs...that's how you know you're a DYNASTY. :hat

All dynasties win back-to-back titles. Since the Sterns will never do that, they don't qualify. They're just a team that scooped up the scraps while the great dyansties like the Lakers were rebuilding. But hey, most of those titles still count as real titles, so you have to give a little respect. They're a better franchise than the Clippers.

[jmard5]

All dynasties win back-to-back titles. Since the Sterns will never do that, they don't qualify. They're just a team that scooped up the scraps while the great dyansties like the Lakers were rebuilding. But hey, most of those titles still count as real titles, so you have to give a little respect. They're a better franchise than the Clippers.

Is Boston a dynasty?

[TampaDude]

All dynasties win back-to-back titles. Since the Sterns will never do that, they don't qualify. They're just a team that scooped up the scraps while the great dyansties like the Lakers were rebuilding. But hey, most of those titles still count as real titles, so you have to give a little respect. They're a better franchise than the Clippers.

This coming from a fan of a team that hasn't won jack shit since 2002... :lol

The Spurs are a dynasty...even Stern, who hates the Spurs, admitted it.

[Saguaro]

Is Boston a dynasty?
The 1960's Celtics, who won 11 titles in 13 years, are the greatest NBA dynasty ever. That's especially painful for me to admit, since so many of those titles came at the expense of the Lakers. You're welcome for this knowledge I'm dropping on you.

[mytespurs]

All dynasties win back-to-back titles. Since the Sterns will never do that, they don't qualify. They're just a team that scooped up the scraps while the great dyansties like the Lakers were rebuilding. But hey, most of those titles still count as real titles, so you have to give a little respect. They're a better franchise than the Clippers.

Maybe that matters to the historians and debaters that doesn't change the fact that the Spurs are 4 time NBA Champions and have 4 trophys to show for it....no matter how it was done. So continue to talk smack, disrespect, whatever....the bottom line is the Spurs have won as many titles this decade as the Lakers. And before the bellowing starts, yesI'm very much aware of the Lakers championship runs in the70's, 80's and part of this decade. :king

[pawe]

All dynasties win back-to-back titles. Since the Sterns will never do that, they don't qualify. They're just a team that scooped up the scraps while the great dyansties like the Lakers were rebuilding. But hey, most of those titles still count as real titles, so you have to give a little respect. They're a better franchise than the Clippers.

This coming from a SUNS fan trying to post as a Laker fan.
Dude, the "saguaro" and "the sterns" gave it away (arizonasportsfags). What a dumbfuck chicken shit SUNS troll.

[Cry Havoc]

Go Spurs Go.

[nfg3]

Excellente! Great article and Bruce's comments were right on. About time someone bothered to ask us who we are rather than taking for granted what others want everyone to believe.