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duncan228
05-23-2008, 01:08 PM
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writers/chris_mannix/05/23/ginobili.spurs/?eref=sircrc

Spurs' hopes hinge on Ginobili
Chris Mannix

LOS ANGELES -- It has been said that as Tim Duncan goes, so go the Spurs.

There is some truth to that.

But if you want the whole truth, look no further than Manu Ginobili. Because if the Spurs hope to be successful in the rest of the 2008 playoffs, which resume for them Friday with Game 2 of the Western Conference finals against the Lakers, they are only going to go as far as he takes them.

How can I say a sixth man (albeit a great one) for most of the season is more valuable than a 10-time All-Star with three Finals MVPs on his résumé? Well, for starters I am in no way suggesting that Duncan is less valuable than Ginobili. Especially not in this series, where the Lakers' Pau Gasol must be feeling like he is back wearing a Memphis jersey based on the number of times Duncan used him as a turnstile in Game 1 on Wednesday. Duncan is without peer in locating teammates from the post and delivering passes that lead to open jump shots. Simply put, Duncan is the best team player in sports.

It's just that in today's NBA, big men are rarely go-to players. Kevin Garnett finished third in the MVP voting this season, but the Celtics usually give the ball to Paul Pierce in crunch time. The Pistons prefer having Chauncey Billups or Richard Hamilton take the key shots. And the Lakers, well, let's just say Gasol wasn't looking for the ball in the post late in the fourth quarter. That's Kobe time.

While Duncan is the most valuable Spur in the first three quarters, coach Gregg Popovich turns to Ginobili down the stretch. During the regular season, Ginobili averaged a team-high 5.1 points in the fourth quarter. His aggressive style usually results in free throws, which help San Antonio dictate the tempo and slow any extended runs by opponents in the fourth quarter.

Which is why it was especially tough for Popovich to see Ginobili's ineffectiveness in the fourth quarter Wednesday, when the Spurs scored 13 points on 3-for-21 shooting (14.3 percent) as the Lakers rallied to win the series opener 89-85. No one looked more fatigued from the Spurs' hard-fought, seven-game series with the Hornets -- not to mention having to spend Monday night sleeping on a plane after their flight from New Orleans was grounded -- than Ginobili, who also is dealing with a sore left ankle and a finger injury.

Ginobili took two shots in the fourth quarter and missed them both, including a potential go-ahead three-pointer with nine seconds remaining. Overall, he finished with 10 points (on 3-for-13 shooting) and committed four turnovers. His jumpers were short. His explosive first step wasn't there. He made Lakers guard Sasha Vujacic look like Ron Artest.

"I have a couple issues," Ginobili said, "but nothing that bad that can justify the way I played. I'm upset, but it's over, and now you've got to try to play better next game."

With only one day off between each game in the series, Ginobili won't have much time to get rejuvenated. The ankle injury, which dates back to Game 1 of the Spurs' first-round series against the Suns, is particularly troublesome. But if the Spurs want to salvage a split on the road after blowing a 20-point third-quarter deficit in Game 1, they need to find a way to reignite their spark plug.

"It is a kick in the gut for sure," Ginobili said of the Game 1 loss. "But we know we had a great game for 30 minutes. It is never enough against a great team like them. ... We just were not smart enough down the stretch to calm things down, be more patient and attack the seams better. We were always the same speed, no change of direction, no good execution. Those things have to get better."

greens
05-23-2008, 04:30 PM
Thanks for the article.

I still don't like how all these new articles are coming out saying that whether the Spurs win or lose this series hinges on Manu. Teams win or lose games, not one player. One player should not take the full responsibility for a win or a loss.

duncan228
05-23-2008, 04:38 PM
Teams win or lose games, not one player. One player should not take the full responsibility for a win or a loss.

I agree.

diego
05-23-2008, 04:50 PM
i agree, and i'm a little miffed so many spurs fans put the hornets series on ginobili ("they have no one who can guard him"), yet as far as i can tell no one is doing the same with parker or duncan in this one (fisher? gasol?) OTOH ive been busy lately and havent popped in for more than 10-15 minutes a day, so i might be wrong.

anyways lets hope they get the split tonight!

ManuTim_best of Fwiendz
05-23-2008, 05:42 PM
I'm afraid 2008 Ginobili has left town...:depressed

Parker's the one who can exploit the defenses in this series. With Manu out of the equation for the offensive bulk, the bench players have to follow Timmy and Tony's play. When their shots fall, the shooters will benefit.

Doctor J
05-23-2008, 05:59 PM
I hope Manu skips the Olympics and has a plenty of rest in the off-season.

He does need it.

Zero Point Four
05-23-2008, 06:06 PM
Of course, the responsibility is on Ginobili!

Who else is out of a wheelchair?

http://www.lakersbrethren.net/files/Playoffs/GrumpySpursLMAO.jpg

byrontx
05-23-2008, 06:18 PM
The Spurs are all about team. I have confidence in Manu. He was out of gas the other night. The bench has to step up andd score. Maybe move Manu back to the bench? Hopefully, we would see a different Finely.

SenorSpur
05-23-2008, 06:20 PM
I'll say it again. Manu MUST player smarter - whether his shot is on or not. He's a great enough player that he CAN have an impact on the game every minute he's on the floor. Sure he needs to score to be effective. However, if that's not the case, he can get to the line, drive and kick, play good defense and just be an overall disruptive force when he's not shooting well. Whatever the case, he's got to play smarter and take better care of the ball.

Flux451
05-23-2008, 06:36 PM
The Spurs are all about team. I have confidence in Manu. He was out of gas the other night. The bench has to step up andd score. Maybe move Manu back to the bench? Hopefully, we would see a different Finely.

i totally agree. I think Pop knows he has to make certain subs per series.
Before Game 1, I was hoping and expecting Manu to come off bench like the beginning of Hornets and SUns series'.

I think his time should be limited to 30 or below.

urunobili
05-23-2008, 06:44 PM
thanks for the article duncan228... this guy had nothing to write and tried to emulate Ludden's story of the same topic... we need a healthier Manu to go all the way.... i trust him as much as i do trust TD, TP Bruce and Pop.... i believe :flag

tmtcsc
05-23-2008, 07:11 PM
We need easy points in the paint to supplement all of our 3's. I've come to live with the fact that we have become a 3 pt shooting team. We just don't have the players (besides Tony and pre-injuries Manu) that can take the ball to the rime.

We will need short jumpers by Thomas and Oberto along with put backs and pnr layups.

ducks
05-23-2008, 07:12 PM
so if he shows up and duncan + tp do not spurs win?

Anti.Hero
05-23-2008, 07:13 PM
If Manu turns into SuperManu like he can, the Spurs are unbeatable.

ducks
05-23-2008, 07:14 PM
the big three need 70 or more for spurs to win
period
tp and duncan can get that spurs win
if manu and duncan get it they win
if tp and manu get that they win