The Gasol Trade

[Mike Smrek]

who's theorizing? facts are facts. my team has no shortcomings other than the fact that they wont cheat to win, but i consider that a strength.

What facts? You haven't done anything but ignore logic and spout dogma.

How about the only facts that matter -- this trade met all league requirements and both sides were satisfied with the outcome. The Lakers got a legitimate second option, and the Grizzlies got right of a contract that was crippling their growth.

ANd it happened a year ago, which should have given you plenty of time to get the sand out of your vagina.

[Mike Smrek]

jerry west requested of heisley that he hire failure of a gm chris wallace to replace him. jerry scratched wallaces back, what did wallace do for jerry?? just sayin. just cause jerry's not on the payroll doesn't mean he's got nothing to do with it


if EVERYTHING is manipulated then people with catch on. you manipulate just enough so that you achieve your desired result often enough then people might not catch on. la fans are stupid delusional sheep, fat and happy sheep, but stupid and delusional.

If you actually believe this crap that you're pushing, then why do you even bother watching the NBA at all? I mean, you're pretty much putting it on the same level as pro wrestling, so what's the point?

[thispego]

What facts? You haven't done anything but ignore logic and spout dogma.

How about the only facts that matter -- this trade met all league requirements and both sides were satisfied with the outcome. The Lakers got a legitimate second option, and the Grizzlies got right of a contract that was crippling their growth.

ANd it happened a year ago, which should have given you plenty of time to get the sand out of your vagina.

was the trade lop-sided? unfair to the rest of the league? a slap in the face to fans? deflating to teams who have spent years trying to build championship teams the right way? legal?

yes to all of the above, but

legally speaking, oj simpson is not a murderer.

The Gasol Trade - The Perfect Crime?

:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin

[thispego]

If you actually believe this crap that you're pushing, then why do you even bother watching the NBA at all? I mean, you're pretty much putting it on the same level as pro wrestling, so what's the point?

cheaters never prosper and i will stick around to see the lakers go nowhere despite pulling one of the biggest cheats the professional sports wolrd has ever seen. as a result kobe will be labeled a choker and a non-leader. it'll be awesome.

[Lakers_55]

lol are there millions of other teams? delusion * everyone's doing it! *

Pop bitched about the trade like the day it happened. Just because you only logged on to lakersground and espn.com that day doesnt mean everyone else wasnt calling bullshit



I never even went to Lakerground until a few weeks ago. I haven't been back. If Pop was bitching about the trade from day one, show me the posts here to back up what you say, then I'll eat my words. If memory serves me, he didn't moan until the Lakers started winning with Gasol.

Mid season acquisitions are often key to a team getting to the next level. In 2004, Detroit acquired Rasheed Wallace and played like the best team in the league the rest of the way. Even the Spurs helped the Lakers back in 1987, giving us a former #1 overall pick named Mychal Thompson. We won the title that year.

You brought this thread back, why? I suspect sour grapes, the trade made the Lakers better than the Spurs.


I like you as a poster, the most solid minded Lakerfan on this board, but sorry.. No. A good trade is supposed to benefit both teams, like an old scale - the pieces on either side must be even. The Grizzlies were not planning on the future with the pieces they received, in fact, they are all gone now except for the picks if I;m not mistaken, and Marc of course. So you say Salary Dumping? That should not be allowed, too one sided and bad for the League, just because its your team that got the benefit shouldn't cloud your judgment.

Well, I can't add anything here that hasn't been said already, so I will just say I appreciate your kindness and respect for me. The analysis of the pieces is debated and the future will decide it. The only thing I will add is the trade back in 1981 where the Warriors traded Robert Parish and a #1 draft pick (who became Kevin McHale) for Joe Barry Carroll. Also, if you look at the Dallas/New Jersey Kid trade last year, the Mavs gave up 2 first round picks. Doesn't it seem obvious now, they should have received 2 first round picks instead? NJ will make out for years to come on that deal.

[Mike Smrek]

was the trade lop-sided? unfair to the rest of the league? a slap in the face to fans? deflating to teams who have spent years trying to build championship teams the right way? legal?

yes to all of the above, but

legally speaking, oj simpson is not a murderer.

The Gasol Trade - The Perfect Crime?

:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin

It's been my experience on message boards that whenever one reverts to emoticons, they've either run out of substantive arguments, or they never had one to begin with.

I mean, if you're going to stoop to that level, why not use them on yourself for comparing the O.J. Simpson trial to a basketball trade. Because at this point, it pretty much sums up your whole argument -- a big joke.

Now, I'm not expecting you as a Spurs fan to like the trade. Far from it. If I was in the same boat, and I'd just seen my most hated opponent close a deal that just might have effectively closed our window as a championship contender, I would be pretty pissed off, too.

But I dare anybody with at least a marginal IQ to look at my original post, read it as objectively as possible, and not acknowledge that it makes perfect sense. And it does because, well, that's pretty much the way it went down.

If it makes you feel better to think otherwise, and come up with excuses, and to depict the NBA as some evil conglomerate aimed at fucking small-market teams out of their just rewards, feel free.

Just know that me, and millions of other Laker fans have pretty much the same reaction when we think about that trade -- our faces split into huge fucking smiles, and we thank Mitch Kupchak for re-building a championship contender on the fly.

Whether it pays off in a ring, who knows? We all better get our business done quick, because once Cleveland signs a second All-Star in 2010, we're all going to be playing for second anyway.

Until then, I'll at least take solace in the fact that Tim Duncan and Gregg Popovich are going to spend the remainder of their careers getting their asses kicked by the Lakers.

[thispego]

I never even went to Lakerground until a few weeks ago. I haven't been back. If Pop was bitching about the trade from day one, show me the posts here to back up what you say, then I'll eat my words. If memory serves me, he didn't moan until the Lakers started winning with Gasol..
ok, it took pop exactly one week to come out and say what everyone was already thinking. and NOONE expected the lakers to continue losing after acquiring a franchise bigman and losing noone. that is just stupid.


Mid season acquisitions are often key to a team getting to the next level. In 2004, Detroit acquired Rasheed Wallace and played like the best team in the league the rest of the way. Even the Spurs helped the Lakers back in 1987, giving us a former #1 overall pick named Mychal Thompson. We won the title that year.
:rolleyes and this is why i say lakers fans are stupid and delusional. no reason to secon-dguess the trade when you're the sole beneficiary, right? lol, dumbass


You brought this thread back, why? I suspect sour grapes, the trade made the Lakers better than the Spurs..
because we must mever forget and I wanted to make sure laker fans still knew what was up and didnt forget over the off season like they hoped everyone else would.

[thispego]

It's been my experience on message boards that whenever one reverts to emoticons, they've either run out of substantive arguments, or they never had one to begin with.

I mean, if you're going to stop to that level, why not use them on yourself for comparing the O.J. Simpson trial to a basketball trade. Because at this point, it pretty much sums up your whole argument -- a big joke.

Now, I'm not expecting you as a Spurs fan to like the trade. Far from it. If I was in the same boat, and I'd just seen my most hated opponent close a deal that just might have effectively closed our window as a championship contender, I would be pretty pissed off, too.

But I dare anybody with at least a marginal IQ to look at my original post, read it as objectively as possible, and not acknowledge that it makes perfect sense. And it does because, well, that's pretty much the way it went down.

If it makes you feel better to think otherwise, and come up with excuses, and to depict the NBA as some evil conglomerate aimed at fucking small-market teams out of their just rewards, feel free.

Just know that me, and millions of other Laker fans have pretty much the same reaction when we think about that trade -- our faces split into huge fucking smiles, and we thank Mitch Kupchak for building a championship contender on the fly.

Whether it pays off in a ring, who knows? We all better get our business done quick, because once Cleveland signs a second All-Star in 2010, we're all going to be playing for second anyway.

Until then, I'll at least take solace in the fact that Tim Duncan and Gregg Popovich are going to spend the remainder of their careers getting their asses kicked by the Lakers.

lakers could get away with muder too if they wanted to, apparently.

[ClingingMars]

Get the fuck out.

no u, this is SpursTalk, not LakersTalk BITCH.

[Lakers999]

wow such jealousy from petty spurs fans

[thispego]

Just need a quick recount. lakerfans chime in if you are still aware that the gasol trade was bullshit and that any future success due to your ill-gotten gains will be accompanied by *

[ClingingMars]

pego, Faker fans would defend Kobe and the Lakers if they killed a man on the basketball court on ABC in the Finals. they'll always come up with some BS excuse.

-Mars

[thispego]

this i know. stupid and delusional.

[Lakers_55]

ok, it took pop exactly one week to come out and say what everyone was already thinking. and NOONE expected the lakers to continue losing after acquiring a franchise bigman and losing noone. that is just stupid.


:rolleyes and this is why i say lakers fans are stupid and delusional. no reason to secon-dguess the trade when you're the sole beneficiary, right? lol, dumbass


because we must mever forget and I wanted to make sure laker fans still knew what was up and didnt forget over the off season like they hoped everyone else would.

There is an old saying....Never argue with an idiot, they will bring you down to their level and beat you with experience. So, I am done with you, I proved my point.

There is also a similar saying. Never argue with an intelligent man, he will bring you up to his level and beat you with experience. I have done this. Now, go hook up with SpursDynasty for a few beers, you seem to fancy similar delusions about basketball.

[ClingingMars]

There is an old saying....Never argue with an idiot, they will bring you down to their level and beat you with experience. So, I am done with you, I proved my point.

There is also a similar saying. Never argue with an intelligent man, he will bring you up to his level and beat you with experience. I have done this. Now, go hook up with SpursDynasty for a few beers, you seem to fancy similar delusions about basketball.

http://www.forumspile.com/Misc-OhSnap.jpg

he pulled the SpursDynasty card!

[Lakers999]

this i know. stupid and delusional.

just like your argument about the gasol trade

[Thompson]

To anyone who uses the 'salary dump' argument: the Grizzlies could have accomplished a salary dump and still received much more in return (higher draft picks). The Lakers were not the only team with expiring contracts.

As for Marc Gasol, he is better than they knew he was at the time of the trade. He's still not nearly what Pau is. At the time of the trade, he was generally regarded as a scrub (one draft website I looked at yesterday had Splitter rated at 4 stars out of 6. Marc was given a 1 star rating).

It's bad enough larger markets can outspend smaller ones in terms of salary, along with Nike and other sponsors encouraging players to go to larger markets (offering double the endorsement money). When those same teams also use collusion to grab other teams' franchise players for nothing, how are small markets supposed to compete with that? It's ridiculous.

[HarlemHeat37]

some bad arguments on both sides..

the fairness of the Gasol trade will come down to a few factors..it'll depend on the careers of Marc Gasol and Darrell Arthur, and it'll depend on who the Grizzlies get through free agency in the next 2-3 years..it'll also depend on whether or not the Lakers win a title..that's what it comes down to at the end, and that's it..

right now it's obviously a lopsided deal, and it's obvious that the Lakers benefited, as usual..when you're a fan of the NBA, you have to deal with a few unfair issues..you have to deal with Lebron and Wade getting favorable calls..you have to deal with the Lakers getting away with shit through the L..any Laker fan can admit that their team gets treated better by the NBA, and I think it's obvious..they benefit from players demanding to go to the Lakers on draft day, they've benefited from their location to attract free agents, and it's been like this forever..this is the same franchise that benefited from the worst officiated game in NBA history, that led to a title in 2002..

I give respect to Laker fans when they deserve it..there are a few good Laker fans here, like Allanon and Lakers_55(off the top of my head), but they are generally the worst fanbase on the internet, due to the large amount of bandwagoners and blind Kobe homers that tend to cheer for their team..Laker fans are the most insecure fanbase in the NBA, and it's obvious in most of their posts(again, not all of them, but the majority based on my experience)..they'll go to extreme lengths to defend their teams, often ignoring facts and logic..

when you mention the rigged(not officially, of course..but obvious to anybody that watched the game) Kings-Lakers game 6, they'll bring up some alleged bad calls in other games of the series, which are never mentioned by anybody other than their fanbase..at the time of the Donaghy allegations, a youtube search of that series had clips of EVERY game, except for the game 6..obviously..

blind Kobe homers are known to go as far as making up facts about the Shaq era, including having the balls to say that Kobe had as much of an impact as Diesel did..

Laker fans are also known to defend Kobe allegedly raping a woman, and defending the fact that Kobe told the police information about Shaq for absolutely no reason..both sickening acts..it's not a surprise that Laker fans are such insecure people..the fact that they cheer for a rapist is disgusting, and they should all be disgusted at themselves..I don't know how they can look in the mirror..

[thispego]

There is an old saying....Never argue with an idiot, they will bring you down to their level and beat you with experience. So, I am done with you, I proved my point.

There is also a similar saying. Never argue with an intelligent man, he will bring you up to his level and beat you with experience. I have done this. Now, go hook up with SpursDynasty for a few beers, you seem to fancy similar delusions about basketball.

so you havent yet realized that the gasol trade was bullshit?
thanks. i'm trying to get numbers here...

[TheMACHINE]

o well...now its time for the spurs to get a lopsided deal. YOU CAN DO IT!

[greyforest]

o well...now its time for the spurs to get a lopsided deal. YOU CAN DO IT!

negative, not enough people watch our team

[picnroll]

o well...now its time for the spurs to get a lopsided deal. YOU CAN DO IT!

Since the Lakers moved to LA they haven't won a single title without gifting of players, Wilt, Shaq, Kareem, Kobe refusing to sign with anyone else, Gasol should they win another. Spurs maneuvered to free up cap space and still couldn't sign an impact. That's why, as an organization, the Spurs four championships I think are more impressive than all the Lakers titles combined.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

just like your argument about the gasol trade

You remind me of boxing fans trying to explain that HW boxing really is not fixed.

The Gasol trade was akin to the Oberto, Vaughn and a second round pick for David Lee nonsense that is bandied around here. Prima facia, its stupid and Lee isn't the player that Gasol is.

I cannot fault the Lakers for accepting it but in baseball for example the commiisoner can and has shot down trades like that. It is titled as in the best interests in baseball. Well in basketball best interest translates into big market so I don't see Stern ever doing anything unless its say the Bucks.

But really at somepoint don't you feel like your cheering for the house at a casino?

[DrHouse]

So should the Lakers tank seasons in order to get the #1 draft pick?

[Lakers999]

So should the Lakers tank seasons in order to get the #1 draft pick?

is that what really happened in 97

:lmao

[Spurminator]

So should the Lakers tank seasons in order to get the #1 draft pick?


Yes but first you'd have to learn the secret magic spell that guarantees you will get the top pick even though you did not have the worst record in the league. Otherwise it wouldn't really be worth the risk, especially if the #2 pick is Keith Van Horn...

[kingmalaki]

This thread is hilarious. Spurs fans whining about the Gasol trade (which was really unfair, but oh well), when the only reason their franchise has won anything is because they tanked to land Duncan. Or landing Finley for nothing because the Mavs bought him out...that was really fair. Or trading Barry for Thomas, and then resigning Barry...that's fair too huh?

More power to those that can get over is what I say. I mean, isn't that what we want our GM's to do? I don't see Pop turning down landing Gasol for crap if he had a shot to do it.

[sedale threatt]

they have to blame the gasol trade because they just got smoked and they can't blame injuries or officiating. what else is left? nevermind that bynum did more damage than gasol. nevermind farmar or ariza. nevermind that six or seven of their players wouldn't make the laker roster. it's the league and the gasol trade! jerry west! dr. evil! do you see?

[picnroll]

Laker's franchise history equals *.

[birdy219]

o well...now its time for the spurs to get a lopsided deal. YOU CAN DO IT!


I like you. We need some humor around here. :king I'm okay with rational laker fans; it's just that there are so few of them around me. The ones that I know are either young and dumb bandwagoners or old obnoxious croners. I'm surrounded by laker and mav fans. Somebody help me PLEASEEEE. :bang

[InK]

This thread is hilarious. Spurs fans whining about the Gasol trade (which was really unfair, but oh well), when the only reason their franchise has won anything is because they tanked to land Duncan. Or landing Finley for nothing because the Mavs bought him out...that was really fair. Or trading Barry for Thomas, and then resigning Barry...that's fair too huh?


Exactly. Gasol trade was :bang but Spurs fans are the last who can complain about it.

[Medvedenko]

I guess I'll continue to perpetuate this assinine thread....I love it though.

[InK]

I'm okay with rational laker fans; it's just that there are so few of them around me. The ones that I know are either young and dumb bandwagoners or old obnoxious croners. I'm surrounded by laker and mav fans. Somebody help me PLEASEEEE. :bang

Really a lot of decent Lakers fans ( and from other teams as well) roaming around at spurstalk these days, its loads upon loads better atm then it was at the 3peat time, if i remember correctly.

[HarlemHeat37]

I'm one of the Spurs fans that wasn't mad about the Gasol trade, LA gave up a good amount..but like I said, Laker fans are extremely sensitive, defensive, and insecure..

they obviously know the flaws of their franchise..most of them are bandwagon fans that conveniently became Laker fans during the Shaq era, or during Showtime..they realize their franchise has benefited heavily from players demanding to go to LA on draft night, or signing with LA due to location and reputation they've gotten from all of this..they obviously realize they received a title in 2002 due to probable rigging, they idolize a rapist that attempts to get a teammate that brought him 3 titles in trouble with the law..

among other players, 2 of the main players Laker fans have idolized are a rapist/snitch, and an adulterer with HIV..just disgusting..these are the types of people you find at Laker games..people that condone this stuff..well outside of mindless celebrities that couldn't name a Laker outside of Kobe and "that tall, ugly, Spanish guy"..and gangbangers of course..gang banger that jump innocent fans at games because they're wearing a Celtics jersey..

tanking is a myth..David Robinson being out is a better reason..nothing to indicate tanking, and the #1 pick is never guaranteed either way..bad argument..

[DrHouse]

I'm one of the Spurs fans that wasn't mad about the Gasol trade, LA gave up a good amount..but like I said, Laker fans are extremely sensitive, defensive, and insecure..

they obviously know the flaws of their franchise..most of them are bandwagon fans that conveniently became Laker fans during the Shaq era, or during Showtime..they realize their franchise has benefited heavily from players demanding to go to LA on draft night, or signing with LA due to location and reputation they've gotten from all of this..they obviously realize they received a title in 2002 due to probable rigging, they idolize a rapist that attempts to get a teammate that brought him 3 titles in trouble with the law..

among other players, 2 of the main players Laker fans have idolized are a rapist/snitch, and an adulterer with HIV..just disgusting..these are the types of people you find at Laker games..people that condone this stuff..well outside of mindless celebrities that couldn't name a Laker outside of Kobe and "that tall, ugly, Spanish guy"..and gangbangers of course..gang banger that jump innocent fans at games because they're wearing a Celtics jersey..

tanking is a myth..David Robinson being out is a better reason..nothing to indicate tanking, and the #1 pick is never guaranteed either way..bad argument..

:lmao

Yes we love our rapists and HIV infected players!

[FuzzyLumpkins]

they have to blame the gasol trade because they just got smoked and they can't blame injuries or officiating. what else is left? nevermind that bynum did more damage than gasol. nevermind farmar or ariza. nevermind that six or seven of their players wouldn't make the laker roster. it's the league and the gasol trade! jerry west! dr. evil! do you see?

Actually I can blame officiatin. You guys were allowed to play physical and we were not. Especially with Duncan in the block. Hip checking to the sideline was consistent. We got open looks and missed them. Oh well.

I am not blaming the trade for ahit. We were in tath game in the first half and had we hit those 12 open threes you guys gave up we would have won. We missed our shots and you made yours. Oh well.

At the end of the day, the Gasol trade is bullshit even still.

[ShoogarBear]

No one called collusion about the trade until Pop complained publicly.

Wrong.

http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=86184&

Which makes the rest of your post fallacious.(*)







(*) This word does not mean what Kobe defenders think it does.

[WayOutWest]

I'm one of the Spurs fans that wasn't mad about the Gasol trade, LA gave up a good amount..but like I said, Laker fans are extremely sensitive, defensive, and insecure..


We are NOT! Shut your face! STOP IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :p:

[m33p0]

we all know the Grizzlies is the Lakers subsidiary in Memphis.

[Lakers_55]

Wrong.

http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=86184&

Which makes the rest of your post fallacious.(*)







(*) This word does not mean what Kobe defenders think it does.

Sorry, but fail. I looked at that thread. Post 17, 18, and 20 are all that back up any collusion talk, and they contradict each other. Besides, they don't even make a big deal about it. Collusion claims didn't start popping up regularly until Popovich sounded off. Then the shit hit the internet fan. Your post was a silent but not so deadly fart.

There is also a thread in BBall Central about Gasol going to Chicago in December of 07, and I read elsewhere Phoenix was inquiring to Memphis about him in January of 2008.

[ShoogarBear]

Sorry, but fail.

The only fail is you:


No one called collusion about the trade until Pop complained publicly.

That post was made a week before Pop's comments. So you are wrong.


I looked at that thread. Post 17, 18, and 20 are all that back up any collusion talk, and they contradict each other. Besides, they don't even make a big deal about it. Collusion claims didn't start popping up regularly until Popovich sounded off. Then the shit hit the internet fan. Your post was a silent but not so deadly fart.
Internet lameosity #125: I was wrong, so I'm changing the argument.


There is also a thread in BBall Central about Gasol going to Chicago in December of 07, and I read elsewhere Phoenix was inquiring to Memphis about him in January of 2008.Do you understand how incriminating those statements are? The reason that everyone is calling collusion is that when the time came to actually make the trade, neither Chicago nor Phoenix nor ANYBODY ELSE among the numerous other teams interested was even given a chance to make an offer. The Bulls easily would have topped what the Lakers gave up.

[Lakers_55]

The only fail is you:



That post was made a week before Pop's comments. So you are wrong.

Internet lameosity #125: I was wrong, so I'm changing the argument.

Do you understand how incriminating those statements are? The reason that everyone is calling collusion is that when the time came to actually make the trade, neither Chicago nor Phoenix nor ANYBODY ELSE among the numerous other teams interested was even given a chance to make an offer. The Bulls easily would have topped what the Lakers gave up.

Meh, this topic is so sour grapes, move on. Pop made his comments, then the collusion posts hit the internet en masse. Your revelations didn't even cause a stir.

Did it occur to you that maybe Chicago and Phoenix made offers that the Grizzlies weren't interested in and were thusly turned down? Or maybe the Laker offer was better? Your opinion of better doesn't count, the jury is still out on the future Memphis got. It's easy to say any team could make a better offer after a trade was made. The fact is, they didn't. It's the reverse of the concept of a contract going to the lowest bidder. Once you've bid, you can't lower it when you lose out on the deal.

Dream on, I've seen it all here. 0.4 that should have been 0.8. Barry traveling before Fisher fouled him, (and the NBA dropping the ball saying a foul should have been called), Stern makes the Lakers win. Refs are in the Laker pocket. Yet somehow, the fact that Donaghy reffed series that the Spurs won get overlooked and laughed at when a Phoenix fan complains about it.

I try to be fair here, but really, you guys need to get a grip on reality. My team can't win every year, but history proves they'll be in the mix consistently. Look at your team, second only to mine in that department.

Act like men, like the players you emulate. Quit being little bitches about everything that doesn't go your way. It's all old news. Or go out and actually prove the conspiracies you hold so dear. Then, you will have a serious audience. I am done here. See my reply above to the OP about arguing, idiots, and intelligence.

[thispego]

listen kid, this thread isn't about bitching, so please stop. We all know there's a little voice in the back of your head casting shadows of doubt about the legitimacy of this trade. Too bad those thoughts are muffled by your complete laker homerism that tells you lakers can do no wrong, that it would be unfair for the lakers to not be title contenders, and that anyone who believes collusion was at play is just jealous.

noone is jealous, no spurs fans are bitching. we have as much chance of winning as any other team this year. We just want to make sure that you, as a laker fan, knows that the gasol trade was bullshit and gives the lakers an unfair advantage. simple. can you comprehend this?

[ShoogarBear]

Meh, this topic is so sour grapes, move on. Pop made his comments, then the collusion posts hit the internet en masse. Your revelations didn't even cause a stir.

When did "causing a stir" become part of the criteria?

Tonight, I guess, after your original statement was proven wrong.


Did it occur to you that maybe Chicago and Phoenix made offers that the Grizzlies weren't interested in and were thusly turned down? Or maybe the Laker offer was better? Your opinion of better doesn't count, the jury is still out on the future Memphis got. Okay, so now that you have been proven conclusively wrong in the original statement in question, we are changing the topic to something else, right? Just want to make that clear.

I agree, my opinion doesn't count. Especially when compared to one such as yours. And neither does this guy's, either:

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=aw-heisleygasol060308&prov=yhoo&type=lgns


Still, it hasn’t stopped a rampant anger around the league that this wasn’t so much of a trade, as much as it was the word that Bryant himself used: a “donation.” Privately, the Lakers were thrilled that they were able to keep negotiations with the Grizzlies quiet because Los Angeles officials were blown away that they could get Gasol for so little.


One source with knowledge of the process said the Bulls had made the most credible offer. For Gasol and Memphis’ Hakim Warrick, the Bulls were willing to part with Andres Nocioni, Tyrus Thomas, Joakim Noah, Thabo Sefolosha, possibly Adrian Griffin and draft picks.
Well, that Jarvis Crittendon sure turned out to be a winner, didn't he? And Kwame Brown, what a steal! Aaron McKie??? Say no more!!

And with Jerr. . ., err, I mean Chris Wallace running the team, those draft picks are gold!


Dream on, I've seen it all here. 0.4 that should have been 0.8. Barry traveling before Fisher fouled him, (and the NBA dropping the ball saying a foul should have been called), Stern makes the Lakers win. Refs are in the Laker pocket. Yet somehow, the fact that Donaghy reffed series that the Spurs won get overlooked and laughed at when a Phoenix fan complains about it.Wow, those are all certainly credible arguments legitimizing the Gasol trade.


I try to be fair here, but really, you guys need to get a grip on reality. My team can't win every year, but history proves they'll be in the mix consistently. Look at your team, second only to mine in that department.

Act like men, like the players you emulate. Quit being little bitches about everything that doesn't go your way. It's all old news. Or go out and actually prove the conspiracies you hold so dear. Then, you will have a serious audience. I am done here.

See my reply above to the OP about arguing, idiots, and intelligence.Yes, well, with such a intellect wielding such powerful arguments legitimizing the Gasol trade, it's no wonder you're exasperated by puny old us.

[Lakers999]

noone is jealous, no spurs fans are bitching. we have as much chance of winning as any other team this year. We just want to make sure that you, as a laker fan, knows that the gasol trade was bullshit and gives the lakers an unfair advantage. simple. can you comprehend this?


:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

OH THE CONTRADICTIONS!!!!!!!!!!!!

look pego... face your truths... you are jealous, your jealous for the facts that the lakers foiled the spurs attempts at repeating on 2 different occasions.. your jealous at the fact that the lakers are contenders again. your jealous for the fact that RC cannot draft or trade for anyone that can match up with bynum, gasol, and odom this year, your jealous for the fact that kobe might win it all without shaq oneal thus ending spurs fans only hatred filled argument about kobe not winning w/out shaq and lastly, your jealous at the facts that Gasol was traded to Los Angeles rather than SA.

lets just leave it at that.... Jealousy can destroy fan....too bad it has overtaken your sense of reality

[ClingingMars]

:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

OH THE CONTRADICTIONS!!!!!!!!!!!!

look pego... face your truths... you are jealous, your jealous for the facts that the lakers foiled the spurs attempts at repeating on 2 different occasions.. your jealous at the fact that the lakers are contenders again. your jealous for the fact that RC cannot draft or trade for anyone that can match up with bynum, gasol, and odom this year, your jealous for the fact that kobe might win it all without shaq oneal thus ending spurs fans only hatred filled argument about kobe not winning w/out shaq and lastly, your jealous at the facts that Gasol was traded to Los Angeles rather than SA.

lets just leave it at that.... Jealousy can destroy fan....too bad it has overtaken your sense of reality

yes, we're jealous that the Spurs cannot steal players. really. :rolleyes

[Lakers999]

yes, we're jealous that the Spurs cannot steal players. really. :rolleyes

yeah laker fans are also jealous that we cant steal playoff games either

[timvp]

Lakers_55 gets owned on his original assertion and then moves the goalposts .... only to get owned again.

Classic.

[Lakers999]

yes, we're jealous that the Spurs cannot steal players. really. :rolleyes

and how is it stealing when you have an approved business deal by two teams especially when one of those VP/GM use to be an ex-celtic

[Ghazi]

Celtics fans didn't complain about the Gasol trade last year :)

[ClingingMars]

yeah laker fans are also jealous that we cant steal playoff games either

oh. my. fucking. god.

y4t5RMFt5u8

[DrHouse]

listen kid, this thread isn't about bitching, so please stop. We all know there's a little voice in the back of your head casting shadows of doubt about the legitimacy of this trade. Too bad those thoughts are muffled by your complete laker homerism that tells you lakers can do no wrong, that it would be unfair for the lakers to not be title contenders, and that anyone who believes collusion was at play is just jealous.

noone is jealous, no spurs fans are bitching. we have as much chance of winning as any other team this year. We just want to make sure that you, as a laker fan, knows that the gasol trade was bullshit and gives the lakers an unfair advantage. simple. can you comprehend this?

So what do you call the Warriors getting Baron Davis for Speedy Claxton and Dale Davis?

What about the Hawks trading Rasheed Wallace to the Pistons for Bobby Sura, Chris Mills, and Zeljco Rebraca?

Lopsided trades happen in the NBA and in all professional sports. This wasn't the 1st time the Lakers benefited from great timing and other GM's incompetence. Look at how they acquired Kobe Bryant, Kareem, etc. Part of being a good GM is being able to screw over other GM's.

[Lakers999]

oh. my. fucking. god.

y4t5RMFt5u8

legitimate play!! no foul was called on kobe drive and the ball popped out to horry!!!!

what i meant by stealing games is this...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvkKdXLwt0U

[Lakers999]

Celtics fans didn't complain about the Gasol trade last year :)

if they lost they would have

[ClingingMars]

legitimate play!! no foul was called on kobe drive and the ball popped out to horry!!!!

what i meant by stealing games is this...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvkKdXLwt0U

:lmao, only a Laker fan would call Game 6 a legitimate game. keep drinkin' that kool-aid :toast

[ShoogarBear]

Lopsided trades happen in the NBA and in all professional sports. This wasn't the 1st time the Lakers benefited from great timing and other GM's incompetence. Look at how they acquired Kobe Bryant, Kareem, etc. Part of being a good GM is being able to screw over other GM's.


The difference here? The "incompetent" GM in question:

http://wvutoday.wvu.edu/images/2006/1775/44bf7e1fbaf37_md.jpg

[Lakers999]

:lmao, only a Laker fan would call Game 6 a legitimate game. keep drinkin' that kool-aid :toast

i said legitmate play!!!!

and only a spurs fan would consider their 06 and 07 playoff runs legitimate as well...

keep hittin that bong:toast

[HarlemHeat37]

So what do you call the Warriors getting Baron Davis for Speedy Claxton and Dale Davis?

What about the Hawks trading Rasheed Wallace to the Pistons for Bobby Sura, Chris Mills, and Zeljco Rebraca?

Lopsided trades happen in the NBA and in all professional sports. This wasn't the 1st time the Lakers benefited from great timing and other GM's incompetence. Look at how they acquired Kobe Bryant, Kareem, etc. Part of being a good GM is being able to screw over other GM's.


I'm not against the Gasol trade, LA gave up a decent amount..it was definitely a product of bad GMing..but it's obviously questionable for the present..also for the fact that Jerry West was still close with the Grizzlies front office, and for the fact that Kobe had demanded a trade in the off-season..

LOL..both Kareem and Kobe asked to be in LA..

Wayne Embry wrote in his book:

"Finally, Kareem spoke his mind. 'I am unhappy in Milwaukee, and I want to be traded when the season is over,' he said. 'I am not culturally satisfied here. I'd like to go to New York, Washington, or Los Angeles. I am telling you now so you can get something for me, rather than sitting out my option year and then signing with one of those teams or the Nets of the ABA.'...My first response was to try to talk him into staying in Milwaukee. I asked a series of rapid-fire questions: 'Do you want more money? Are you unhappy with the coach or with me? Are you dissatisfied with your teammates? What can we do?' He assured us none of those things was a problem, and he was not going to change his mind. He wanted out."

it's also known that Kobe asked to go to the Lakers on draft night, and he was the main prospect Jerry West was coveting..the Lakers have benefited with shit like this more than any other team, and it's not even close..

[ClingingMars]

i said legitmate play!!!!

and only a spurs fan would consider their 06 and 07 playoff runs legitimate as well...

keep hittin that bong:toast

06 we didn't win shit, dumbass. keep trying.

[Lakers999]

The difference here? The "incompetent" GM in question:

http://wvutoday.wvu.edu/images/2006/1775/44bf7e1fbaf37_md.jpg


WRONG GM GENIUS!!!! the trade happened on none other than chris wallace watch a former celtic

[Ghazi]

Who cares at the end of the day, all the Gasol trade has assured the Lakers is trips to the Finals in the next 2-3 years, where Kobe will choke and shoot 40% and the Fakeshow will feel the wrath of the King.

[Lakers999]

06 we didn't win shit, dumbass. keep trying.

learn how to read dumbshit!!! i said playoff runs!!! not title or finals runs!!!

[Lakers999]

Who cares at the end of the day, all the Gasol trade has assured the Lakers is trips to the Finals in the next 2-3 years, where Kobe will choke and shoot 40% and the Fakeshow will feel the wrath of the King.



so you wish!!!


its okay feed that green monster of jelousy

[ClingingMars]

learn how to read dumbshit!!! i said playoff runs!!! not title or finals runs!!!

if it was really fucking fixed in 06, we would have won a title. god you must the biggest dumbass Laker fan on the internet.

[ShoogarBear]

WRONG GM GENIUS!!!! the trade happened on none other than chris wallace watch a former celtic

:lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao

[Lakers999]

if it was really fucking fixed in 06, we would have won a title. god you must the biggest dumbass Laker fan on the internet.

do you know anything of the donaghy scandal??? COULD IT BE THAT HE BET ON DALLAS TO WIN THE WCF???? or just the SERIES WITH PHX???

YOU ARE THE DUMBEST DUMBASS ON THE INTERNET

[Lakers999]

:lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao


go ahead and keep laughing you are the one bitching about a trade that will prolly spiral the spurs into second round elimination for the next 4 years

[ClingingMars]

do you know anything of the donaghy scandal??? COULD IT BE THAT HE BET ON DALLAS TO WIN THE WCF????

YOU ARE THE DUMBEST DUMBASS ON THE INTERNET

could he have bet on the Lakers? the Mavs? the Spurs? the Suns?

only time will tell, but what we do know is that every NBA fan -Fakerfans admit that there was something screwy with Game 6 of the 2002 NBA Western Conference Finals.

[daslicer]

That trade was bs its equivalent to the spurs being able to trade Matt Bonner for Dirk Nowitzki or Amare Stoudemire. That definitely would change the whole power balance of the league. There is nothing you can do about it it happened just like that timeless phrase it is that it is sums up the phantom trade. To me it doesn't really matter I'm through with the NBA once Duncan retires. I hate the current generation of players not just the Lakers but the majority in this league are a bunch of overpaid arrogant assholes, plus the refs are pretty shitty and hold grudges, factor in rule changes to help perimeter players become untoucheable because if you are allowed 90's defense to be played they would have a difficult time cracking over 20 points.

[DrHouse]

The difference here? The "incompetent" GM in question:

http://wvutoday.wvu.edu/images/2006/1775/44bf7e1fbaf37_md.jpg

Are you fucking stupid? The GM at the time of the trade was Chris Wallace, you know the EX-CELTIC GM. Jerry West was over a year removed from his post as GM of Memphis.

If you knew anything about West you would never ever make a statement like that. He's a standup and classy guy through and through, he is the fucking Logo for a reason.

The fact that you continue to dreg this crap argument of yours even further shows how bitter and jealous you are that your franchise isn't on top anymore.

[Lakers_55]

Lakers_55 gets owned on his original assertion and then moves the goalposts .... only to get owned again.

Classic.

Yeah, dream on little man. I said it before recently, I'll say it again. I go to a board and contribute and end up getting accepted. Then, dumbasses like you try and knock me off my so-called pedestal. I end up getting in fights and just move on, and that's what I am doing here.

I don't care what you think, I don't care what you type in response to this, because I am never coming back to this board.

I owned you pretty badly already when you claimed you started the collusion stuff about this trade. Did I rub it in? Fuck no. Anyone with common sense knows I am right here.

Prune my account, ban me and my IP address, I don't give a rats ass. Let the true fans of this board see how fucking biased you guys are towards anyone that even likes the Lakers. You let this bitterness get in the way of being a great board. I used to think you were, but when the site owner rags on decent people, it's not. The place has ceased to be fun for me. To the friends I made here, sorry it has to end this way, I enjoyed you all and what you had to say.

What's this thread about? It's about the Lakers are now better than the Spurs. We made a good deal and passed you up, that's what it's all about.

I consider you have done me a favor, I encourage all other Laker fans to just pack up and leave this place as well. We know we are the better team now, and we will prove it again this year. Let the Spurs fans dream on in peace, and argue amongst themselves.

Are my feelings hurt? No, I can man up to anything. I came here to see the other point of view on basketball. All I see are children.

[DrHouse]

Yeah, dream on little man. I said it before recently, I'll say it again. I go to a board and contribute and end up getting accepted. Then, dumbasses like you try and knock me off my so-called pedestal. I end up getting in fights and just move on, and that's what I am doing here.

I don't care what you think, I don't care what you type in response to this, because I am never coming back to this board.

I owned you pretty badly already when you claimed you started the collusion stuff about this trade. Did I rub it in? Fuck no. Anyone with common sense knows I am right here.

Prune my account, ban me and my IP address, I don't give a rats ass. Let the true fans of this board see how fucking biased you guys are towards anyone that even likes the Lakers. You let this bitterness get in the way of being a great board. I used to think you were, but when the site owner rags on decent people, it's not. The place has ceased to be fun for me. To the friends I made here, sorry it has to end this way, I enjoyed you all and what you had to say.

What's this thread about? It's about the Lakers are now better than the Spurs. We made a good deal and passed you up, that's what it's all about.

I consider you have done me a favor, I encourage all other Laker fans to just pack up and leave this place as well. We know we are the better team now, and we will prove it again this year. Let the Spurs fans dream on in peace, and argue amongst themselves.

Are my feelings hurt? No, I can man up to anything. I came here to see the other point of view on basketball. All I see are children.

Damn you just made Lakers_55 quit the forum timVP. That's quite an accomplishment. Aren't you the moderator?

Pathetic.

[ShoogarBear]

Lakers_55 quit because he made a post that was factually incorrect, and then decompensated when he was proven wrong.

Nice epitaph.

[thispego]

Yeah, dream on little man. I said it before recently, I'll say it again. I go to a board and contribute and end up getting accepted. Then, dumbasses like you try and knock me off my so-called pedestal. I end up getting in fights and just move on, and that's what I am doing here.

I don't care what you think, I don't care what you type in response to this, because I am never coming back to this board.

I owned you pretty badly already when you claimed you started the collusion stuff about this trade. Did I rub it in? Fuck no. Anyone with common sense knows I am right here.

Prune my account, ban me and my IP address, I don't give a rats ass. Let the true fans of this board see how fucking biased you guys are towards anyone that even likes the Lakers. You let this bitterness get in the way of being a great board. I used to think you were, but when the site owner rags on decent people, it's not. The place has ceased to be fun for me. To the friends I made here, sorry it has to end this way, I enjoyed you all and what you had to say.

What's this thread about? It's about the Lakers are now better than the Spurs. We made a good deal and passed you up, that's what it's all about.

I consider you have done me a favor, I encourage all other Laker fans to just pack up and leave this place as well. We know we are the better team now, and we will prove it again this year. Let the Spurs fans dream on in peace, and argue amongst themselves.

Are my feelings hurt? No, I can man up to anything. I came here to see the other point of view on basketball. All I see are children.

LOL!!!

[ShoogarBear]

Are you fucking stupid? The GM at the time of the trade was Chris Wallace, you know the EX-CELTIC GM. Jerry West was over a year removed from his post as GM of Memphis.

This message brought to you by Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, and the Tooth Fairy.


If you knew anything about West you would never ever make a statement like that. He's a standup and classy guy through and through, he is the fucking Logo for a reason.

Too bad. All tarnished now.


The fact that you continue to dreg this crap argument of yours even further shows how bitter and jealous you are that your franchise isn't on top anymore.

Yes, I'm so bitter I go into fits of uncontrolled rage on message boards of other teams.

[InRareForm]

hows that crittenton scrub doing?

[JustSomeJoe]

As a Lakers fan, I absolutely love these Gasol trade threads. They all say one thing and one thing only: damn it, Lakers are back... that's just so unfair.

Seriously, Sunday's game hurt some of y'all badly, didn't it. Hey, I know what it's like... been there. You started off watching the game thinking "hell ya, we're gettin' screwed by the refs but we're up by 1" by the end of the 1st quarter. Half time comes and you're thinking "ok, we're getting zero calls, haven't played well, but we're still only down by six... we won the last one, we're still here... we can do this." Then, the unfortunate happens. Midway through 3rd quarter it dawns on you... "fuck, we're done." By the start of the 4th, the realization solidifies... "shit, they're owning us... the string is over... unless we get some talent in here, this ain't good... but we ain't got shit to trade w/out breaking up the big 3... fuck, we're done."

At the same time, the Lakers -- those hated Lakers -- have so much talent they can't even figure out a way to play it all. They've got a young Center not even close to figuring it out and putting it all together that can still impact games against the best, i.e. the Spurs. They've got a PF -- the dreaded "stolen" PF -- who just also happens to be one of the better centers in the league playing backup C. They've got a 6'11" PF that started on a finals team coming off the bench, another young stud making nothin' who's starting to ball his ass off coming off the bench, and shooters just rusting away on the pine. Oh, and they've got "that" guy. You know... the "rapist." Sure, they might not make it to the Finals this year, or if they do they might not win it (you can always hope). But, they've got so much talent and flexibility that they can make moves, and they'll damned well will be serious contenders for at least the next several years... probably more.

And, as it looks now... the Spurs won't... which is exactly what this thead is about. So, keep 'em coming... let the bitching commence.

By the way, Memphis shed Pau's $49 mil remaining salary (which L.A. was willing to pay, something the "other" teams with expirings "weren't" willing to do), and picked up essentially 3 1st rounders (counting Critt) and a damned serviceable Center for a competitive price of... 1 GAME. As of 1/25 last year, they were 12-31. As of 1/25 this year... 11-32. Not a bad business move.


"They're young, athletic, long, deep -- they've got an inside game, an outside game, and they're going to be a hell of a team for a long time to come," Popovich said before retreating to his office, which Sunday doubled as a bunker against unpleasant reality.

If reading/hearing people whine about the Pau trade is the only price to pay to read quotes like the prior from the Spurs coach, then it's a price well worth it.

Commence bitching!

[daslicer]

What's this thread about? It's about the Lakers are now better than the Spurs. We made a good deal and passed you up, that's what it's all about.

I consider you have done me a favor, I encourage all other Laker fans to just pack up and leave this place as well. We know we are the better team now, and we will prove it again this year. Let the Spurs fans dream on in peace, and argue amongst themselves.

Are my feelings hurt? No, I can man up to anything. I came here to see the other point of view on basketball. All I see are children.

:lol Timvp. Hey Lakers_55 believe when I speak for everybody you won't be missed. I have a feeling you will unfortunately comeback here with other lakerfans when you get bored on LG discussing endless threads about Kobe is the greatest or Bynum is the greatest center of all time.

[InRareForm]

As a Lakers fan, I absolutely love these Gasol trade threads. They all say one thing and one thing only: damn it, Lakers are back... that's just so unfair.



By the way, Memphis shed Pau's $49 mil remaining salary (which L.A. was willing to pay, something the "other" teams with expirings "weren't" willing to do), and picked up essentially 3 1st rounders (counting Critt) and a damned serviceable Center for a competitive price of... 1 GAME. As of 1/25 last year, they were 12-31. As of 1/25 this year... 11-32. Not a bad business move.

!

lol please, there were plenty of teams wanting to welcome along gasol's contract, stupid ass. there were better offers. There were much better offers. did you really just put (counting critt) up there? :lol you should have kept your post count at what it was an hour ago.

[ClingingMars]

Yeah, dream on little man. I said it before recently, I'll say it again. I go to a board and contribute and end up getting accepted. Then, dumbasses like you try and knock me off my so-called pedestal. I end up getting in fights and just move on, and that's what I am doing here.

I don't care what you think, I don't care what you type in response to this, because I am never coming back to this board.

I owned you pretty badly already when you claimed you started the collusion stuff about this trade. Did I rub it in? Fuck no. Anyone with common sense knows I am right here.

Prune my account, ban me and my IP address, I don't give a rats ass. Let the true fans of this board see how fucking biased you guys are towards anyone that even likes the Lakers. You let this bitterness get in the way of being a great board. I used to think you were, but when the site owner rags on decent people, it's not. The place has ceased to be fun for me. To the friends I made here, sorry it has to end this way, I enjoyed you all and what you had to say.

What's this thread about? It's about the Lakers are now better than the Spurs. We made a good deal and passed you up, that's what it's all about.

I consider you have done me a favor, I encourage all other Laker fans to just pack up and leave this place as well. We know we are the better team now, and we will prove it again this year. Let the Spurs fans dream on in peace, and argue amongst themselves.

Are my feelings hurt? No, I can man up to anything. I came here to see the other point of view on basketball. All I see are children.

http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/FTTD/N68~Drama-Queen-Posters.jpg

[thispego]

:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

OH THE CONTRADICTIONS!!!!!!!!!!!!

look pego... face your truths... you are jealous, your jealous for the facts that the lakers foiled the spurs attempts at repeating on 2 different occasions.. your jealous at the fact that the lakers are contenders again. your jealous for the fact that RC cannot draft or trade for anyone that can match up with bynum, gasol, and odom this year, your jealous for the fact that kobe might win it all without shaq oneal thus ending spurs fans only hatred filled argument about kobe not winning w/out shaq and lastly, your jealous at the facts that Gasol was traded to Los Angeles rather than SA.

lets just leave it at that.... Jealousy can destroy fan....too bad it has overtaken your sense of reality

can i chalk you up with laker55 as a denialist, then?

[DrHouse]

This thread is embarrassing. You all represent the worst that San Antonio fans have to offer.

It's a good thing I know most of them aren't like you.

[thispego]

So what do you call the Warriors getting Baron Davis for Speedy Claxton and Dale Davis?

What about the Hawks trading Rasheed Wallace to the Pistons for Bobby Sura, Chris Mills, and Zeljco Rebraca?

Lopsided trades happen in the NBA and in all professional sports. This wasn't the 1st time the Lakers benefited from great timing and other GM's incompetence. Look at how they acquired Kobe Bryant, Kareem, etc. Part of being a good GM is being able to screw over other GM's.


they were both malcontents and not THE franchise players at the time. chris wallace is not going to come in after a pitiful 10 years with the celtics and start off his new gerneral managership with a bonehead move like this without outside motivations

[timvp]

Yeah, dream on little man. I said it before recently, I'll say it again. I go to a board and contribute and end up getting accepted. Then, dumbasses like you try and knock me off my so-called pedestal. I end up getting in fights and just move on, and that's what I am doing here.Anyone who has been on SpursTalk gets owned at one time or another. Shoog pointed out where he specifically called the Gasol trade out as collusion, which went against what you said. It happens to the best of us.

The pedestal remains.


I don't care what you think, I don't care what you type in response to this, because I am never coming back to this board. :td Too bad. You were one of the few Laker fans who can bring solid takes.


I owned you pretty badly already when you claimed you started the collusion stuff about this trade. Did I rub it in? Fuck no. Anyone with common sense knows I am right here.I still don't think you are right. I said the deal was unfair. Unfair trade in the NBA = collusion.

But if you disagree, that's fine. You've held that contention and you brought up my name in this thread before I even posted in here.


Prune my account, ban me and my IP address, I don't give a rats ass.Why would you get pruned or banned?


Let the true fans of this board see how fucking biased you guys are towards anyone that even likes the Lakers. It's a Spurs fans job to dislike the Lakers. And vice versa. And Laker fans are given as much voice here as a Spurs fan. I'm not sure how much more of an even playing field you are wanting.


You let this bitterness get in the way of being a great board. I used to think you were, but when the site owner rags on decent people, it's not. That wasn't much of a "rag". Pointing out someone being owned isn't much of anything. And again, you were "ragging" on me before I even came into the thread.


The place has ceased to be fun for me. To the friends I made here, sorry it has to end this way, I enjoyed you all and what you had to say.This Gasol topic has been played out. But you have to expect both sides of the debate to be emotional. For the Spurs, the "questionable" trade has made it much harder to add to their trophy collection. For the Lakers, the legitimacy of the trade could tarnish their current success if collusion is indeed proven.

Anyways, I don't see anything for you to quit the board about. I'll apologize for singling you out as getting owned in the exchange if you wish.

[JustSomeJoe]

lol please, there were plenty of teams wanting to welcome along gasol's contract, stupid ass. there were better offers. There were much better offers. did you really just put (counting critt) up there? :lol you should have kept your post count at what it was an hour ago.

I DON'T GIVE A FUCK!

Seriously, I don't care... not in the least. I've got years... YEARS... to come of watching contention, and I get to watch the Spurs head toward suckage with little opportunity to turn it around at the same time. It's fucking nirvana for Laker fans.

See you in the playoffs... commence bitching!

[Kori Ellis]

Yeah, dream on little man. I said it before recently, I'll say it again. I go to a board and contribute and end up getting accepted. Then, dumbasses like you try and knock me off my so-called pedestal. I end up getting in fights and just move on, and that's what I am doing here.

I don't care what you think, I don't care what you type in response to this, because I am never coming back to this board.

I owned you pretty badly already when you claimed you started the collusion stuff about this trade. Did I rub it in? Fuck no. Anyone with common sense knows I am right here.

Prune my account, ban me and my IP address, I don't give a rats ass. Let the true fans of this board see how fucking biased you guys are towards anyone that even likes the Lakers. You let this bitterness get in the way of being a great board. I used to think you were, but when the site owner rags on decent people, it's not. The place has ceased to be fun for me. To the friends I made here, sorry it has to end this way, I enjoyed you all and what you had to say.

What's this thread about? It's about the Lakers are now better than the Spurs. We made a good deal and passed you up, that's what it's all about.

I consider you have done me a favor, I encourage all other Laker fans to just pack up and leave this place as well. We know we are the better team now, and we will prove it again this year. Let the Spurs fans dream on in peace, and argue amongst themselves.

Are my feelings hurt? No, I can man up to anything. I came here to see the other point of view on basketball. All I see are children.

Wow. I should read the NBA forum more often (I assume that's where this guy usually posts?) He has nearly a thousand posts here and I didn't see any of them until this meltdown retirement post. :wtf

Maybe it's time for me to retire :lol I don't even know who's who anymore.

[thispego]

As a Lakers fan, I absolutely love these Gasol trade threads. They all say one thing and one thing only: damn it, Lakers are back... that's just so unfair.

Seriously, Sunday's game hurt some of y'all badly, didn't it. Hey, I know what it's like... been there. You started off watching the game thinking "hell ya, we're gettin' screwed by the refs but we're up by 1" by the end of the 1st quarter. Half time comes and you're thinking "ok, we're getting zero calls, haven't played well, but we're still only down by six... we won the last one, we're still here... we can do this." Then, the unfortunate happens. Midway through 3rd quarter it dawns on you... "fuck, we're done." By the start of the 4th, the realization solidifies... "shit, they're owning us... the string is over... unless we get some talent in here, this ain't good... but we ain't got shit to trade w/out breaking up the big 3... fuck, we're done."

At the same time, the Lakers -- those hated Lakers -- have so much talent they can't even figure out a way to play it all. They've got a young Center not even close to figuring it out and putting it all together that can still impact games against the best, i.e. the Spurs. They've got a PF -- the dreaded "stolen" PF -- who just also happens to be one of the better centers in the league playing backup C. They've got a 6'11" PF that started on a finals team coming off the bench, another young stud making nothin' who's starting to ball his ass off coming off the bench, and shooters just rusting away on the pine. Oh, and they've got "that" guy. You know... the "rapist." Sure, they might not make it to the Finals this year, or if they do they might not win it (you can always hope). But, they've got so much talent and flexibility that they can make moves, and they'll damned well will be serious contenders for at least the next several years... probably more.

And, as it looks now... the Spurs won't... which is exactly what this thead is about. So, keep 'em coming... let the bitching commence.

By the way, Memphis shed Pau's $49 mil remaining salary (which L.A. was willing to pay, something the "other" teams with expirings "weren't" willing to do), and picked up essentially 3 1st rounders (counting Critt) and a damned serviceable Center for a competitive price of... 1 GAME. As of 1/25 last year, they were 12-31. As of 1/25 this year... 11-32. Not a bad business move.


"They're young, athletic, long, deep -- they've got an inside game, an outside game, and they're going to be a hell of a team for a long time to come," Popovich said before retreating to his office, which Sunday doubled as a bunker against unpleasant reality.

If reading/hearing people whine about the Pau trade is the only price to pay to read quotes like the prior from the Spurs coach, then it's a price well worth it.

Commence bitching!

spurs won't be serious contenders the next few years? :rolleyes I'm pretty sure we'll be ok.

[ClingingMars]

LA really needs to stop hogging the kool-aid. It's like a monopoly.

-Mars

[ShoogarBear]

This thread is embarrassing. You all represent the worst that San Antonio fans have to offer.

It's a good thing I know most of them aren't like you.

Please don't make this your last post. I couldn't take two of those in one night.

[thispego]

Anyone who has been on SpursTalk gets owned at one time or another. Shoog pointed out where he specifically called the Gasol trade out as collusion, which went against what you said. It happens to the best of us.

The pedestal remains.

:td Too bad. You were one of the few Laker fans who can bring solid takes.

I still don't think you are right. I said the deal was unfair. Unfair trade in the NBA = collusion.

But if you disagree, that's fine. You've held that contention and you brought up my name in this thread before I even posted in here.

Why would you get pruned or banned?

It's a Spurs fans job to dislike the Lakers. And vice versa. And Laker fans are given as much voice here as a Spurs fan. I'm not sure how much more of an even playing field you are wanting.

That wasn't much of a "rag". Pointing out someone being owned isn't much of anything. And again, you were "ragging" on me before I even came into the thread.

This Gasol topic has been played out. But you have to expect both sides of the debate to be emotional. For the Spurs, the "questionable" trade has made it much harder to add to their trophy collection. For the Lakers, the legitimacy of the trade could tarnish their current success if collusion is indeed proven.

Anyways, I don't see anything for you to quit the board about. I'll apologize for singling you out as getting owned in the exchange if you wish.

timvp you puss

[ShoogarBear]

Maybe it's time for me to retire :lol I don't even know who's who anymore.

http://www.hoopsvibe.com/IMG/tim_duncan-arton20946-240x240.jpg

"Hi, I'm Tim Duncan. I've been here 12 years."

[thispego]

This thread is embarrassing. You all represent the worst that San Antonio fans have to offer.

It's a good thing I know most of them aren't like you.

i'm just trying to help clear your clouded perceptions

[InRareForm]

I DON'T GIVE A FUCK!

Seriously, I don't care... not in the least. I've got years... YEARS... to come of watching contention, and I get to watch the Spurs head toward suckage with little opportunity to turn it around at the same time. It's fucking nirvana for Laker fans.

See you in the playoffs... commence bitching!

NIRVANA just like 2004 and 2008 right?

[anakha]

:corn:

'Commence bitching' sucks as a catchphrase, by the way.

[duncan228]

"Hi, I'm Tim Duncan. I've been here 12 years."

:lmao

[ShoogarBear]

Anyways, I don't see anything for you to quit the board about. I'll apologize for singling you out as getting owned in the exchange if you wish.

timvp you puss

[IronMexican]

1 year anniversary of the trade is this Sunday. Hope I celebrate it with a Pitt loss.

[Kori Ellis]

One thing that I always find funny is that when timvp argues with someone, they expect him to behave at some higher ground than everyone else because he "owns" the site. He's just a fan like the rest of you and posts with the same (sometimes obnoxious) passion. There's no reason to get your panties in a bigger bunch just because it's timvp that's saying it.


By the way, he doesn't really do much to own it. He doesn't moderate or anything.

[ShoogarBear]

:corn:

'Commence bitching' sucks as a catchphrase, by the way.

How about:

-Are you rrrrrrrrrrrrready to b-b-b-b-b-b-itch!

-It's bitcherin' time!

-Are y'all ready to bitch?

-Gentlemen, start your bitchin'!

-Prepare to bitch . . . bitch!

[ShoogarBear]

He keeps Kori's lawn mowed.

[Lakers999]

can i chalk you up with laker55 as a denialist, then?

im not the one bitching and moaning about the gasol trade looks to me that you are the one living in pure denial

[Cant_Be_Faded]

I will never look on anything the Lakers do as legitimate ever again, and will most assuredly stop watching nba games as a casual fan if the Lakers even make it to the finals again this year...but I am consoled by the fact that Karma does exist.

Eventually, it'll be people like me in Texas that are shrieking with laughter when LA tumbles into the pacific ocean like a big lump of shit that it is.

[thispego]

-Are y'all ready to bitch?


lol, at the start of spurs games?

[anakha]

By the way, he doesn't really do much to own it. He doesn't moderate or anything.

Now we can add 'marital discord' to the list of things the Gasol trade has caused.

[IronMexican]

WTF is happening in this thread?

[timvp]

timvp you puss


timvp you puss

Hey, I have too many notches on my belt as it is when it comes to making people retire from SpursTalk. If Lakers_55 doesn't come back, I might have hit triple digits.

Besides, I was hoping that bullet hit Dr House.

[Lakers999]

One thing that I always find funny is that when timvp argues with someone, they expect him to behave at some higher ground than everyone else because he "owns" the site. He's just a fan like the rest of you and posts with the same (sometimes obnoxious) passion. There's no reason to get your panties in a bigger bunch just because it's timvp that's saying it.


By the way, he doesn't really do much to own it. He doesn't moderate or anything.



why dont you give him a kiss and a hug while ur at it

[Kori Ellis]

stroke his cock even more while your at it (you didn't edit quick enough)

He's my husband. So I do that quite regularly. Thanks. :lol

[Lakers999]

Hey, I have too many notches on my belt as it is when it comes to making people retire from SpursTalk. If Lakers_55 doesn't come back, I might have hit triple digits.

Besides, I was hoping that bullet hit Dr House.

bullet proof vest right here!!!! :toast

[anakha]

why dont you give him a kiss and a hug while ur at it


(you didn't edit quick enough)

He's my husband. So I do that quite regularly. Thanks. :lol

:lmao

[Lakers999]

(you didn't edit quick enough)

He's my husband. So I do that quite regularly. Thanks. :lol


lmao!!!! sorry my internet is not as fast as yours you see in the LA ghetto we use the local coffee hut for wifi while we dodge bullets while we type

[timvp]

bullet proof vest right here!!!! :toast

Says the Laker Fan who named himself after the 1999 sweepage.

[anakha]

bullet proof vest right here!!!! :toast

So you're the same guy?

[thispego]

im not the one bitching and moaning about the gasol trade looks to me that you are the one living in pure denial

what you perceive as me bitching and moaning is actually concern for laker fans who genuinely act like this trade was fair and square. dude you can not be living in that kind of fantasy world. there's nothing i can do for you (i'm not a professional) except try to show you and other like you, the light.

[Kori Ellis]

lmao!!!! sorry my internet is not as fast as yours you see in the LA ghetto we use the local coffee hut for wifi while we dodge bullets while we type

:lol I lived there for 17 years. You don't need to paint the picture for me.

[duncan228]

Eventually, it'll be people like me in Texas that are shrieking with laughter when LA tumbles into the pacific ocean like a big lump of shit that it is.

Hey! Spurs fan here in Southern California! :lol

[Lakers999]

Says the Laker Fan who named himself after the 1999 sweepage.


swing and a miss

[thispego]

Hey, I have too many notches on my belt as it is when it comes to making people retire from SpursTalk. If Lakers_55 doesn't come back, I might have hit triple digits.

Besides, I was hoping that bullet hit Dr House.

that one was too easy to count, anyways

[timvp]

swing and a miss
swing and a miss
swing and a miss
swing and a miss

True.

[Lakers999]

Hey! Spurs fan here in Southern California! :lol


must be from oxnard

[thispego]

Hey! Spurs fan here in Southern California! :lol

duncan228 would absolutely FREAK if california broke off into the ocean

[Lakers999]

True.
dont forget the asterik on the first one

[daslicer]

Eventually, it'll be people like me in Texas that are shrieking with laughter when LA tumbles into the pacific ocean like a big lump of shit that it is.

:lol I feel the same way at times. I think they are already in a lot pain having to deal with the worst of the housing market collapse along with having the stupid ass gubernator in charge of things.

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

I'd be pretty disappointed if no one brought up the Spurs' tanking for TD or the asterisk.

EDIT: Perfect.

[Lakers999]

what you perceive as me bitching and moaning is actually concern for laker fans who genuinely act like this trade was fair and square. dude you can not be living in that kind of fantasy world. there's nothing i can do for you (i'm not a professional) except try to show you and other like you, the light.


lol your the one living in fantasy world becuase somehow this expression has completely flew over your head "LIFE ISNT FAIR" now get over it....

[anakha]

I'd be pretty disappointed if no one brought up the Spurs' tanking for TD or the asterisk.

EDIT: Perfect.

You're still missing a few more '0.4' and '4-1, FAGGOT!' references to complete the list of cliches.

[Lakers999]

So you're the same guy?

?????

[NewJerSpur]

dont forget the asterik on the first one

Are you going to make the team give back the golden ball they received from the league that year as well. Since it was only half of a season, the league didn't see fit to give them an entire trophy. :rolleyes

[anakha]

?????

Are you stating that you're the same guy as DRHouse?

[Lakers999]

I will never look on anything the Lakers do as legitimate ever again, and will most assuredly stop watching nba games as a casual fan if the Lakers even make it to the finals again this year...but I am consoled by the fact that Karma does exist.

Eventually, it'll be people like me in Texas that are shrieking with laughter when LA tumbles into the pacific ocean like a big lump of shit that it is.

obviously you havent been to california.... sure the economy and housing market is still in the shitter.... but southern california as far as location is still an ideal place to live...

[Lakers999]

Are you going to make the team give back the golden ball they received from the league that year as well. Since it was only half of a season, the league didn't see fit to give them an entire trophy. :rolleyes

no keep all the trophies you want just let history show that an asterik should be in place there for a shortened season

[baseline bum]

I encourage all other Laker fans to just pack up and leave this place as well.

:toast

[Lakers999]

Are you stating that you're the same guy as DRHouse?

no

[Lakers999]

:lol I lived there for 17 years. You don't need to paint the picture for me.

northern california doesnt count

[NewJerSpur]

no keep all the trophies you want just let history show that an asterik should be in place there for a shortened season

Regardless it's still and will forever remain an NBA season in the books.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

obviously you havent been to california.... sure the economy and housing market is still in the shitter.... but southern california as far as location is still an ideal place to live...

See ya down at Arizona Bay.

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

:lol

The tanking reference is in the other thread.

Oh, and if we're going to use the way back machine, Laimbeer didn't touch Kareem.

[baseline bum]

LA is fucking great. The Lakers suck monkey fuck.

[JustSomeJoe]

spurs won't be serious contenders the next few years? :rolleyes I'm pretty sure we'll be ok.

No you're not, and you know it. One word signifies the Spurs club right now: uncertainty. Y'all are pretty sure of nothing.

Face it, that 1st through 4th quarter run down I gave was SPOT THE FUCK ON! I know, cuz I've been there. Sucks!

On the bright side, Spurs ownership built one helluva organization. Top to bottom class and professionalism with a single minded goal: WIN! Any idiot that doesn't respect your organization or your core players is a fucking clown!

Yet, you ARE in a tough spot, whether you want to admit it or not (and most of y'all know it). Spurs don't have enough to get it done unless they play perfect (still might not be enough), and they don't have much to trade... period! Tough spot! Unless mgmt. pulls a rabbit out its arse, it could be very tough to re-tool... could very well be the end of an era.

Many Spurs fans probably came to that realization Sunday... after a lowly reg. season game. It's the main reason some are walking around muttering "Fucking Lakers... fucking Gasol... fucking NBA... fuck!" If it weren't the case, I doubt seriously there'd be any "Gasol Trade" threads on this board.

Hell, at least you're fans of a great organization... there's hope. Could be worse... could live in Memphis.

Commence bitchin' (better?)

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

LA is fucking great. The Lakers suck monkey fuck.

I loved LA. The people? Not so much.

[HarlemHeat37]

I never understand the argument about the shortened season..there's absolutely no logic involved..did the Spurs play less games than any of the other teams involved?..

[anakha]

Commence bitchin' (better?)

Still not catchy enough.


How about:

-Are you rrrrrrrrrrrrready to b-b-b-b-b-b-itch!

-It's bitcherin' time!

-Are y'all ready to bitch?

-Gentlemen, start your bitchin'!

-Prepare to bitch . . . bitch!

[IronMexican]

I love LA, and wouldn't want to live anywhere else. I have to ask, why are you guys so pissed today? At least do the same thing 12 days ago when they met and LA lost. This just comes off as sour grapes. And 55, quit being a bitch.

[HarlemHeat37]

some of you guys need to chill out though..don't get too mad about these Laker fans..just think about the fact that you guys are arguing with people that actually CHEER for A RAPIST..just chill out, and think about that for a second..you would have to be a pathetic human being to cheer for a rapist..let alone an adulterer with HIV..I'm embarrassed to even post in the same forum as these people..

I don't know these people personally, so I can't hate them as people...I have a number of friends that are Laker fans as well, and I obviously like them since they're my boys..but I can't respect their morals if they cheer for the harm of women, and the spreading of a fatal disease..

[baseline bum]

I loved LA. The people? Not so much.

Come on; lots of cool norcal people in LA. I'll agree LA the city itself sucks: badass traffic, shitty air, lots of poverty and crime, and stuck-up people. Still, the beaches, mountains, national parks, and San Diego all within a couple of hours drive make it an awesome place.

Then again, pretty much any big city outside of San Diego sucks IMO, including San Antonio, Houston, and Dallas.

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

you guys are arguing with people that actually CHEER for A RAPIST..just chill out, and think about that for a second..

I don't have to think about it. I'd love Kobe playing for the Pistons.

[Lakers999]

I never understand the argument about the shortened season..there's absolutely no logic involved..did the Spurs play less games than any of the other teams involved?..


people claim that you cannot justify a champion without a full nba regular season... the season had back to back to back games with hardly any breaks in between which can put a strain on older players i.e. Utah Jazz... a completed season with timely rests and breaks can determine a team depth, strength, and chemistry. also it can evenly determine who get HCA. technically Miami from the east should have made it to the finals of that year instead of knicks whom were an 8th seed

[baseline bum]

I don't have to think about it. I'd love Kobe playing for the Pistons.

I'd cheer for OJ if he could come in and fill in the Spurs gap at the 4.

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

Come on; lots of cool norcal people in LA. I'll agree LA the city itself sucks: badass traffic, shitty air, lots of poverty and crime, and stuck-up people. Still, the beaches, mountains, national parks, and San Diego all within a couple of hours drive make it an awesome place.

I don't doubt that the people there are mostly good people. I just didn't run into too many of them on my trips out there.

[baseline bum]

people claim that you cannot justify a champion without a full nba regular season... the season had back to back to back games with hardly any breaks in between which can put a strain on older players i.e. Utah Jazz...

FAIL - The Spurs were the oldest team in the league that season.

[Lakers999]

Come on; lots of cool norcal people in LA. I'll agree LA the city itself sucks: badass traffic, shitty air, lots of poverty and crime, and stuck-up people. Still, the beaches, mountains, national parks, and San Diego all within a couple of hours drive make it an awesome place.

Then again, pretty much any big city outside of San Diego sucks IMO, including San Antonio, Houston, and Dallas.


have you seen the homeless just lounging in austin...i swear to god there is at least five bums sitting underneath every loop of IH35

[IronMexican]

I don't doubt that the people there are mostly good people. I just didn't run into too many of them on my trips out there.

Where'd you stay at?

[Lakers999]

FAIL - The Spurs were the oldest team in the league that season.

malone, stockton, and hornacek = 32, 33, 35
ewing = 33


off the top of my head correct me if im wrong but i think they are the right ages horacek might be older

[Lakers999]

avery johnson and david robinson were your only oldest players

[NewJerSpur]

people claim that you cannot justify a champion without a full nba regular season... the season had back to back to back games with hardly any breaks in between which can put a strain on older players i.e. Utah Jazz... a completed season with timely rests and breaks can determine a team depth, strength, and chemistry. also it can evenly determine who get HCA. technically Miami from the east should have made it to the finals of that year instead of knicks whom were an 8th seed

The Spurs had a good amount of older/AGING vets and it didn't effect them so much...they even beat up on a younger more talented team in the Blazers. Hmm, guess they were just better prepared/coached than most of the other teams that year, including the Lakers.

[JustSomeJoe]

people claim that you cannot justify a champion without a full nba regular season... the season had back to back to back games with hardly any breaks in between which can put a strain on older players i.e. Utah Jazz... a completed season with timely rests and breaks can determine a team depth, strength, and chemistry. also it can evenly determine who get HCA. technically Miami from the east should have made it to the finals of that year instead of knicks whom were an 8th seed

People claim if my Grandma had a set o' balls, she'd be my Grandpa.

Who gives a shit? It was a shortened season, they decided to play it out, and Spurs won.

The asterisk bullshit is old and worn... almost as much as the Gasol trade crying. Spurs were champs... Gasol's a Laker... the rest is transparent, whiny bullshit.

[baseline bum]

avery johnson and david robinson were your only oldest players

Half of the team was retired within 2 years. You forgot Mario Elie, Sean Elliott, Jaren Jackson, Will Perdue, and Jerome Kersey. The only players under 30 who were in the rotation were Duncan and Rose.

[IronMexican]

some of you guys need to chill out though..don't get too mad about these Laker fans..just think about the fact that you guys are arguing with people that actually CHEER for A RAPIST..just chill out, and think about that for a second..you would have to be a pathetic human being to cheer for a rapist..let alone an adulterer with HIV..I'm embarrassed to even post in the same forum as these people..

I don't know these people personally, so I can't hate them as people...I have a number of friends that are Laker fans as well, and I obviously like them since they're my boys..but I can't respect their morals if they cheer for the harm of women, and the spreading of a fatal disease..

I cheer for the name on the front of the jersey 1,000 times more than I do the name on the back.

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

Where'd you stay at?

It was long ago and I don't remember exactly where, but I think it was Torrance.

[Lakers999]

People claim if my Grandma had a set o' balls, she'd be my Grandpa.

Who gives a shit? It was a shortened season, they decided to play it out, and Spurs won.

The asterisk bullshit is old and worn... almost as much as the Gasol trade crying. Spurs were champs... Gasol's a Laker... the rest is transparent, whiny bullshit.



just like the rapist shit is old and worn!!??!! give me a break... as long these rivalries are still in place spurs fans and laker fans will never let these vulgarities go

[DrHouse]

:lmao

This thread has morphed into comedy gold. Lakers_55 you really shouldn't take these fuckers so seriously, this IS SpursTalk after all. There is absolutely no moderation whatsoever. Please come back, you're one of the few Laker fans here who represent our fanbase with class (Lord knows I don't nor do I give a fuck to).

[DrHouse]

That kid who keeps crying about Kobe being a rapist cracks me up so hard. He really believes that we care about that shit :lmao

[Lakers999]

Half of the team was retired within 2 years. You forgot Mario Elie, Sean Elliott, Jaren Jackson, Will Perdue, and Jerome Kersey. The only players under 30 who were in the rotation were Duncan and Rose.

antonio daniels?

[baseline bum]

antonio daniels?

Daniels wasn't part of the playoff rotation. Kerr was the team's main backup PG. AD got very few meaningful minutes that whole run other than a stretch in the first half of game 3 of the Finals when the rest of the team played like crap.

[NewJerSpur]

antonio daniels?

You're reaching homie. Let '99 go already.

[mystargtr34]

:lmao

This thread has morphed into comedy gold. Lakers_55 you really shouldn't take these fuckers so seriously, this IS SpursTalk after all. There is absolutely no moderation whatsoever. Please come back, you're one of the few Laker fans here who represent our fanbase with class (Lord knows I don't nor do I give a fuck to).

Lol your a complete fuckstick 99% of the time, but that made me laugh.

[mystargtr34]

(you didn't edit quick enough)

He's my husband. So I do that quite regularly. Thanks. :lol

I know most people here are mature and let that slide, but im only 20... so :lmao:lmao:lmao Wow! You said that :lol

[DrHouse]

What kind of place would this be if we were all civil like Lakers_55?

Not very exciting.

[YellowFever]

LoL....

This is just about the most entertaining thread in this board.

Keep it going!

BTW.....pego...

That (*) PJ laid on your team really affected you deeply, huh?

Looks like it really left a big scar.

He was just kidding, dude, and that Championship is just as "real" as any other. :toast

Walk away, dude....just let it go...

[jaffies]

VEGETARIAN MOROCCAN STEW

PREP TIME 15 Min
COOK TIME 25 Min
READY IN 40 Min
Servings: 6


INGREDIENTS:

* 1 tablespoon olive oil
* 1 yellow onion, diced
* 4 cloves garlic, minced
* 2 teaspoons ground cumin
* 1 (4 inch) cinnamon stick
* salt and pepper to taste
* 1 pound butternut squash - peeled, seeded, and cut into 2-inch cubes
* 4 large red potatoes, cut into 2-inch cubes
* 2 cups vegetable broth
* 1 (15 ounce) can garbanzo beans, drained
* 1 (14.5 ounce) can canned diced tomatoes with their juice
* 1 cup pitted, brine-cured green olives
* 1/2 teaspoon lemon zest
* 1 who gives a fuck
* 1 3/4 cups water
* 1 (10 ounce) box uncooked couscous
* 6 tablespoons plain yogurt
* 6 tablespoons chopped fresh cilantro

DIRECTIONS

1. Heat olive oil in a large covered saucepan or Dutch oven over medium heat, until oil is hot but not smoking. Drop in the onion, garlic, cumin, cinnamon stick, and salt and pepper. Cook and stir for 5 minutes, until onion is tender and translucent.

2. Stir in the butternut squash and potato cubes, broth, garbanzo beans, and tomatoes, and bring the mixture to a boil. Reduce heat, cover the pot, and simmer about 20 minutes, stirring occasionally, until the squash and potatoes are tender. Remove the stew from heat, and stir in the olives and lemon zest.

3. In a large saucepan, bring 1 3/4 cup water to a boil. Stir in couscous. Cover and remove from the heat; let stand for 5 minutes. Fluff with a fork; cool. Serve stew over cooked couscous. I can't believe you're actually reading this shit! Garnish each serving with a dollop of yogurt and a sprinkle of cilantro leaves.

[ginobili's bald spot]

:lol Threads like this are why I love winning.

[Kori Ellis]

northern california doesnt count

I lived in Los Angeles from '84 to '02.

[mrspurs]

I lived in LA from 63-66. I didnt like the Lakers then. I dont mind the Lakers now, except for Kobes love for being a butt head. There a fun team to watch when we play them. Or when the play against Boston. The Lakers remind me of our Spurs of ole. We had the talent on the court and on the bench. Add to that a coach who holds his own.

[Lakers999]

I lived in Los Angeles from '84 to '02.


unfuckingbelievable.... you lived through the showtime era shaq and kobe era and never became a fan. EVEN Mychal Thomspon who the lakers traded for from san antonio came to la to push them over hump vs boston!!! wow just wow :depressed

[DrHouse]

unfuckingbelievable.... you lived through the showtime era shaq and kobe era and never became a fan. EVEN Mychal Thomspon who the lakers traded for from san antonio came to la to push them over hump vs boston!!! wow just wow :depressed

Well she did marry that guy with a small dick....she's not the brightest bulb in the closet :lmao

[ChumpDumper]

lakerfan looking for validation again.

[DrHouse]

I'm a bitter old man with hatred in my heart.

[Lakers999]

Well she did marry that guy with a small dick....she's not the brightest bulb in the closet :lmao

ewww buddy didnt need to go there

[benefactor]

I lived in LA from 63-66. I didnt like the Lakers then. I dont mind the Lakers now, except for Kobes love for being a butt head. There a fun team to watch when we play them. Or when the play against Boston. The Lakers remind me of our Spurs of ole. We had the talent on the court and on the bench. Add to that a coach who holds his own.
Let me guess...you went to Jerry West's house and you have pictures that you cannot post with Elgin Baylor's family, amirite?

[benefactor]

Well she did marry that guy with a small dick....she's not the brightest bulb in the closet :lmao
I shudder at the thought of how you acquired this information....

[z0sa]

Let me guess...you went to Jerry West's house and you have pictures that you cannot post with Elgin Baylor's family, amirite?

LOL right. Nobody buys your bullshit mrs purs. You're some douchebag 15 year old, and you can tell from your grammar idiot. The only thing you gets paid is lunch money for school.

[Dr. Gonzo]

This thread is fun.

I'm having fun.

[z0sa]

Well she did marry that guy with a small dick....she's not the brightest bulb in the closet :lmao

are you talking about kori ?

[sonic21]

:lmao @ this thread

[ClingingMars]

http://www.hoopsvibe.com/IMG/tim_duncan-arton20946-240x240.jpg

"Hi, I'm Tim Duncan. I've been here 12 years."

:lmao

[ClingingMars]

this thread is ALMOST as good as the UTSA thread.

-Mars

[alchemist]

full circle. Pop with foot in mouth.

[John Basedow]

good bump...did anyone else see that playoff graphic comparing the 2 gasols? Marc is manhandling Duncan while Pau is getting abused by the undersized NOH front line. Chris Wallace is a genius, tbh

[J_Paco]

This trade fucked us in '08 and it is fucking us again in '11. Can't these two teams fuck over each other instead?!?!?!?!?!