View Full Version : I'm philosophical about this...
whottt
05-23-2008, 10:49 PM
I'll be honest, the Spurs just flat out look like they are out of gas. It's not that they aren't trying, you can see the frustration, but "it's" just not there.
I don't particularly believe that the Lakers are outplaying the Spurs, it's more like the Spurs are underplaying the Lakers.
Eventually after so many games, players and teams just wear down and run out of gas. I don''t know if this is what is happening to the Spurs, if it's just temporary or not, I know they look just completely gassed. Even should they go on to win it all this season...there's no way there going to have anything left after a summer of international ball, for next season.
If it should be over...if the Spurs are finally out of gas, at least as they are currently constructed...and let's face it, we all know the day is coming soon, then I just want take my hat off to the Spurs, to Pop, to Tim Duncan, Manu, Bruce and Parker and all the other guys, and thank them for a job well done.
I'd rather tip my hat than trash them, because they've been one hell of a basketball team.
whottt
05-23-2008, 10:50 PM
I just wish it wasn't happening against the Lakers...
SPARKY
05-23-2008, 10:51 PM
How about we wait until the series is over? Sheesh.
Cant_Be_Faded
05-23-2008, 10:52 PM
I just wish it wasn't happening against the Lakers...
Whottt speaketh thy truth.
Don't worry, Spurs will blowout the Lakers in game 3. I just feel it.
whottt
05-23-2008, 10:52 PM
How about we wait until the series is over? Sheesh.
Hey I know they can come back and win the series, they just did it in the last one.
But after a 30 point loss you can either trash them, or you can praise them and I am choosing to praise them. I don't feel like trashin' em.
Yep, we'll see if they can reach deep down and come out with one more:lobt:
Budkin
05-23-2008, 10:53 PM
They need to feel the love of the SA crowd to get them back into it. This series is fucking FAR from over all you quitters!!!
polandprzem
05-23-2008, 10:54 PM
You are happy man whottt <-- three letters t
You can think about the enemy title now
SPARKY
05-23-2008, 10:54 PM
Hey I know they can come back and win the series, they just did it in the last one.
But after a 30 point loss you can either trash them, or you can praise them and I am choosing to praise them. I don't feel like trashin' em.
Well sure. It's been one hell of a ride. Given their history and that TD is 32 and TP is 26, it certainly isn't over.
whottt
05-23-2008, 10:56 PM
Don't worry, Spurs will blowout the Lakers in game 3. I just feel it.
I'm not worried in the slightest, this team has won way too many championships in recent years for "worry" to ever the word that describes this feeling. It's more like a case of you know it's not going to last forever...and it's already lasted one hell of a long time.
I just realize that now, or next season, this team as it is currently constructed is going to run out of gas.
And make no mistake about it...the Spurs are still definitely feeling the effects of that Hornet series...not to mention the short turnaround.
10 years as the best franchise in Pro Sports...that's a pretty damn good 10 years.
Capt Bringdown
05-23-2008, 10:56 PM
I think we're seeing a changing of the guard.
Lakers will dominate the NBA for the next few years, they're that good.
ShoogarBear
05-23-2008, 10:57 PM
Wasn't it nice of the NBA to scheduled game 7 for Monday when they could have played Sunday?
Deuces88
05-23-2008, 10:58 PM
I'll be honest, the Spurs just flat out look like they are out of gas. It's not that they aren't trying, you can see the frustration, but "it's" just not there.
I don't particularly believe that the Lakers are outplaying the Spurs, it's more like the Spurs are underplaying the Lakers.
Eventually after so many games, players and teams just wear down and run out of gas. I don''t know if this is what is happening to the Spurs, if it's just temporary or not, I know they look just completely gassed. Even should they go on to win it all this season...there's no way there going to have anything left after a summer of international ball, for next season.
If it should be over...if the Spurs are finally out of gas, at least as they are currently constructed...and let's face it, we all know the day is coming soon, then I just want take my hat off to the Spurs, to Pop, to Tim Duncan, Manu, Bruce and Parker and all the other guys, and thank them for a job well done.
I'd rather tip my hat than trash them, because they've been one hell of a basketball team.
I agree for the most part. The Lakers aren't outplaying us. We are just not producing. Going 9-minute stretches with the only 2 players scoring being Duncan and Parker is not the way to win ball-games. We should not be playing 2-on-5 like the Hawks and Cavs did against Boston.
I also think Pop made some of the worst adjustments ever. For the first 3 quarters of game 1, we did very well, but collapsed in 4th quarter with stretches similar to the 9-minute stretch mentioned above.
So why did Popovich change and suddenly tried to make Horry and Vaughn the go-to men? Was he drunk or something? What did Horry do to warrant him getting more playing time than Kurt Thomas?
ducks
05-23-2008, 10:58 PM
this needs to be addressed
even it it was not for spurs help
they should atleast be a 2 day break from one city to another in wcf
this would help the quality of basketball being played
timaios
05-23-2008, 10:59 PM
I'll be honest, the Spurs just flat out look like they are out of gas. It's not that they aren't trying, you can see the frustration, but "it's" just not there.
I don't particularly believe that the Lakers are outplaying the Spurs, it's more like the Spurs are underplaying the Lakers.
Eventually after so many games, players and teams just wear down and run out of gas. I don''t know if this is what is happening to the Spurs, if it's just temporary or not, I know they look just completely gassed. Even should they go on to win it all this season...there's no way there going to have anything left after a summer of international ball, for next season.
If it should be over...if the Spurs are finally out of gas, at least as they are currently constructed...and let's face it, we all know the day is coming soon, then I just want take my hat off to the Spurs, to Pop, to Tim Duncan, Manu, Bruce and Parker and all the other guys, and thank them for a job well done.
I'd rather tip my hat than trash them, because they've been one hell of a basketball team.
I am totally agree with you.
polandprzem
05-23-2008, 10:59 PM
Wasn't it nice of the NBA to scheduled game 7 for Monday when they could have played Sunday?
Nobody cares
This is playoffs
peskypesky
05-23-2008, 10:59 PM
How about we wait until the series is over? Sheesh.
:toast
I'm so sick of these heartless fake "fans".
ducks
05-23-2008, 11:00 PM
I care
I would rather watch quality basketball being played
they are punsihing teams that do not sweep teams
and the nba makes more money the longer the series is being played
gameFACE
05-23-2008, 11:02 PM
I have nothing to say to what I just witnessed, really. No excuses. No conspiracies. The Spurs just look flat out gassed.
The only question I would ask is if Jordan's Bulls, Magic's Lakers or Russell's Celtics ran out of gas on their way to repeating.
SPARKY
05-23-2008, 11:03 PM
Wasn't it nice of the NBA to scheduled game 7 for Monday when they could have played Sunday?
No doubt.
whottt
05-23-2008, 11:03 PM
:toast
I'm so sick of these heartless fake "fans".
IF by heartless you mean I'm not going to come on here and call them pussies and soft etc. you're right. Now go fuck yourself.....and readjust your perceptions.
Spurminator
05-23-2008, 11:04 PM
It would have been really REALLY nice to escape Game 1 with a win. But we've been here before. The Lakers are a quality opponent but it's not over. The Spurs are capable of outplaying this team.
Maybe there's something about yellow road arenas.
Cant_Be_Faded
05-23-2008, 11:05 PM
damn shoogabear and cbf agreeing on everything = we have entered the twilight zone.
Wasn't it nice of the NBA to scheduled game 7 for Monday when they could have played Sunday?
Yeah, I mean, how weird for the NBA to schedule a game on a Sunday. [/sarcasm]
whottt
05-23-2008, 11:08 PM
It would have been really REALLY nice to escape Game 1 with a win. But we've been here before. The Lakers are a quality opponent but it's not over. The Spurs are capable of outplaying this team.
Maybe there's something about yellow road arenas.
Like I said...even if they win it all this season, they're done for at least a year after this, after a summer of international ball etc. They gonna be scraping Manu and Parker off the court with a putty knife after this summer, so maybe now, or definitely next season, the tank is gonna run dry...and that's what their problem is right now. That's what they are struggling with in this series right now. Empty tank...
samikeyp
05-23-2008, 11:08 PM
Don't worry, Spurs will blowout the Lakers in game 3. I just feel it.
Hey, at this point, I would take a 1 point win. :)
TDfan2007
05-23-2008, 11:17 PM
Too true whottt...and it's really depressing to watch as a fan. Memories of the past don't really help much either.
:depressed
JustSpurs
05-23-2008, 11:21 PM
The turnovers are killing us.
We can take the Lakers as long as we play smarter than they do.
timvp
05-23-2008, 11:29 PM
Yeah, I agree this loss wasn't something to get mad over. The Spurs just didn't have anything. Whether it's a combination of fatigue or injury or age or whatever else, the needed juice wasn't there. Even when it was close in the first half, I was 100% sure the Spurs were going lose.
As a Spurs fan, I don't see how you can be pissed at the team for not having juice. If it were tactical or effort level or something along those lines, it's fair to be pissed off. But being angry at this team right now is like kicking a dying dog.
The good news is that the Spurs may find the juice at home. I'm far from giving up on this team. One home win and this series is a series again.
The only thing I can truly be angry at right now is how they blew Game 1. But oh well. That's in the past. All Game 1 shows is the Spurs can win in LA. Take care of Game 3 and let's see what happens from there.
Oh and I'm not ready to start thanking the Spurs for their championship era. It's time to be greedy -- not time to reminisce about how good it's been. My reminiscing time starts once David Robinson is speaking during Tim Duncan jersey retirement night.
whottt
05-23-2008, 11:30 PM
The only question I would ask is if Jordan's Bulls, Magic's Lakers or Russell's Celtics ran out of gas on their way to repeating.
No they didn't....but that really doesn't make a bit of difference to me. 4 NBA championsips, only 3 teams in history have more. Undefeated in the Finals with 4 NBA championships, only one team has more. That's pretty damn good for San Antonio and an EX ABA team. I want the repeat, but at the same time if team doesn't have it left in the tank then they don't have it left in the tank. No sense beating a dead horse. I refuse to get pissed off and bash the Spurs for this. For what? Running out of gas from winning?
homer
05-23-2008, 11:36 PM
I'll be honest, the Spurs just flat out look like they are out of gas. It's not that they aren't trying, you can see the frustration, but "it's" just not there.
I don't particularly believe that the Lakers are outplaying the Spurs, it's more like the Spurs are underplaying the Lakers.
Eventually after so many games, players and teams just wear down and run out of gas. I don''t know if this is what is happening to the Spurs, if it's just temporary or not, I know they look just completely gassed. Even should they go on to win it all this season...there's no way there going to have anything left after a summer of international ball, for next season.
If it should be over...if the Spurs are finally out of gas, at least as they are currently constructed...and let's face it, we all know the day is coming soon, then I just want take my hat off to the Spurs, to Pop, to Tim Duncan, Manu, Bruce and Parker and all the other guys, and thank them for a job well done.
I'd rather tip my hat than trash them, because they've been one hell of a basketball team.
:toast
whottt
05-23-2008, 11:36 PM
Yeah, I agree this loss wasn't something to get mad over. The Spurs just didn't have anything. Whether it's a combination of fatigue or injury or age or whatever else, the needed juice wasn't there. Even when it was close in the first half, I was 100% sure the Spurs were going lose.
As a Spurs fan, I don't see how you can be pissed at the team for not having juice. If it were tactical or effort level or something along those lines, it's fair to be pissed off. But being angry at this team right now is like kicking a dying dog.
The good news is that the Spurs may find the juice at home. I'm far from giving up on this team. One home win and this series is a series again.
The only thing I can truly be angry at right now is how they blew Game 1. But oh well. That's in the past. All Game 1 shows is the Spurs can win in LA. Take care of Game 3 and let's see what happens from there.
Oh and I'm not ready to start thanking the Spurs for their championship era. It's time to be greedy -- not time to reminisce about how good it's been. My reminiscing time starts once David Robinson is speaking during Tim Duncan jersey retirement night.
:lol
Let me be clear on this in case I wasn't. I think the Lakers are the weakest matchup we've had so far, and easiest to beat. I don't think they'd be beating the Spurs if the Spurs were playing anything remotely resembling their normal game. That is what is making me think they are out of gas.
But there was just a brutal 7 game series against the Hornets...I see Manu limping ass. Half the guys looking like they have one foot in the grave. It's not a matter of being soft and not wanting it...just fatigue.
The Hornets? They were kicking our ass and clearly outplaying us at a high level...that's not what LA is doing...the Spurs looking they just got done running a triathalon and are now in a 100 yard dash with the Lakers.
I also don't think LA is winning a title this year no matter what happens in this series. I'm not impressed with them.
homer
05-23-2008, 11:50 PM
I think we're seeing a changing of the guard.
Lakers will dominate the NBA for the next few years, they're that good.
:nopeI disagree, they're the best right now but I don't think they'll dominate for the next few years. I fully expect the Spurs to make some major improvements in the off-season and give them a run for their money next year. I will be sorely dissapointed if they don't. I also expect a few other teams to make some moves, ie. Utah, Phoenix, N.O.... Actually all the teams should be gearing up to beat the Lakers now that they have the bullseye on their back.:hat
As a Spurs fan, I don't see how you can be pissed at the team for not having juice. If it were tactical or effort level or something along those lines, it's fair to be pissed off. But being angry at this team right now is like kicking a dying dog.
As Dave Letterman used to say, "You have crystallized my thoughts eloquently."
Killakobe81
05-24-2008, 12:13 AM
:lol
Let me be clear on this in case I wasn't. I think the Lakers are the weakest matchup we've had so far, and easiest to beat. I don't think they'd be beating the Spurs if the Spurs were playing anything remotely resembling their normal game. That is what is making me think they are out of gas.
But there was just a brutal 7 game series against the Hornets...I see Manu limping ass. Half the guys looking like they have one foot in the grave. It's not a matter of being soft and not wanting it...just fatigue.
The Hornets? They were kicking our ass and clearly outplaying us at a high level...that's not what LA is doing...the Spurs looking they just got done running a triathalon and are now in a 100 yard dash with the Lakers.
I also don't think LA is winning a title this year no matter what happens in this series. I'm not impressed with them.
Ok i get that many Spur fans THINK that the Hornets are better than us but really that is silly they beat you with PAul & West and spotty play from peja and Chandler we are sooooooo MUCH deeper than NO and the Suns please they cant beat a veteran team kobe almost beat them by himself 3 years ago pay us our respect NO didnt beat you by 30 or erase a 20 pt lead ...plus they dont have Kobe ...
leemajors
05-24-2008, 12:16 AM
Ok i get that many Spur fans THINK that the Hornets are better than us but really that is silly they beat you with PAul & West and spotty play from peja and Chandler we are sooooooo MUCH deeper than NO and the Suns please they cant beat a veteran team kobe almost beat them by himself 3 years ago pay us our respect NO didnt beat you by 30 or erase a 20 pt lead ...plus they dont have Kobe ...
if kobe is that great, why was he dicking around sucking against phoenix in the clutch the last few years?
That is what is making me think they are out of gas.
To blame a loss this late in the season on an empty tank ain't going
to cut it.
But there was just a brutal 7 game series against the Hornets...I see Manu limping ass. Half the guys looking like they have one foot in the grave. It's not a matter of being soft and not wanting it...just fatigue.
If you're team is fatigued at this point, they don't deserve to be champions.
Plus, you guys had a 20 point lead in game one. The Spurs couldn't have done that if they were fatigued.
I'm sure you feel the need to explain these loses, but please don't use fatigue as an explanation. It just makes people want to roll their eyes.
The Hornets? They were kicking our ass and clearly outplaying us at a high level...that's not what LA is doing.
What happened today then ? Please don't use that "f" word.
I'm not impressed with them.
That's fine. See you in game 3. Hopefully you'll be impressed by the
Lakers in that game.
if kobe is that great, why was he dicking around sucking against phoenix in the clutch the last few years?
Game seven, two second half shots.
That's positively Fabricio Oberto-like!
if kobe is that great, why was he dicking around sucking against phoenix in the clutch the last few years?
Look up and see who his pg and pf were. Take Manu and TP away from Duncan, what do you think will happen ?
Btw, that phoenix game was over anyway. What did you expect Kobe to do ? He's not God.
Plus, you guys had a 20 point lead in game one. The Spurs couldn't have done that if they were fatigued.
In the sport of boxing, fighters who don't have the stamina for a 12-round fight train for a quick knockout.
The Spurs tried the same strategy in Game One. The punch just wasn't big enough.
rascal
05-24-2008, 12:21 AM
Ok i get that many Spur fans THINK that the Hornets are better than us but really that is silly they beat you with PAul & West and spotty play from peja and Chandler we are sooooooo MUCH deeper than NO and the Suns please they cant beat a veteran team kobe almost beat them by himself 3 years ago pay us our respect NO didnt beat you by 30 or erase a 20 pt lead ...plus they dont have Kobe ...
I agree with you. The Hornets fell apart when the pressure mounted. They are not as deep benchwise as the lakers. Also the hornets were not mentally tough and folded when the pressure was on, so they are not as tough as the Lakers.
Princess Pimp
05-24-2008, 12:21 AM
I'll be honest, the Spurs just flat out look like they are out of gas. It's not that they aren't trying, you can see the frustration, but "it's" just not there.
I don't particularly believe that the Lakers are outplaying the Spurs, it's more like the Spurs are underplaying the Lakers.
Eventually after so many games, players and teams just wear down and run out of gas. I don''t know if this is what is happening to the Spurs, if it's just temporary or not, I know they look just completely gassed. Even should they go on to win it all this season...there's no way there going to have anything left after a summer of international ball, for next season.
If it should be over...if the Spurs are finally out of gas, at least as they are currently constructed...and let's face it, we all know the day is coming soon, then I just want take my hat off to the Spurs, to Pop, to Tim Duncan, Manu, Bruce and Parker and all the other guys, and thank them for a job well done.
I'd rather tip my hat than trash them, because they've been one hell of a basketball team.
What a dumb ass!
Duncan and Ginobili didn't play "summer" ball...
Whisky Dog
05-24-2008, 12:22 AM
This is why I'm glad I really enjoyed last year's run and went to a few playoff/finals games. It's so hard to expect this group as is to get it done again. Too many guys out of gas or with nagging injuries to expect them to win. That said, if they do manage to win then this has to go down as one of the toughest and most gritty teams ever. To run this gauntlet under these circumstances would almost be superhuman.
midgetonadonkey
05-24-2008, 12:23 AM
Like I said...even if they win it all this season, they're done for at least a year after this, after a summer of international ball etc. They gonna be scraping Manu and Parker off the court with a putty knife after this summer, so maybe now, or definitely next season, the tank is gonna run dry...and that's what their problem is right now. That's what they are struggling with in this series right now. Empty tank...
I agree. This is the last chance for the Spurs to win it all. If they don't then I'm glad to have been a part of one of the greatest dynasties in all of sports.
leemajors
05-24-2008, 12:24 AM
What a dumb ass!
Duncan and Ginobili didn't play "summer" ball...
ginobili is playing in the olympics, dumbass.
Princess Pimp
05-24-2008, 12:25 AM
ginobili is playing in the olympics, dumbass.
He's talking about being out of gas because of "summer" ball, Idiot!
Princess Pimp
05-24-2008, 12:26 AM
I agree. This is the last chance for the Spurs to win it all. If they don't then I'm glad to have been a part of one of the greatest dynasties in all of sports.
They are not a dynasty, that's for sure, repeat first then talk
I agree. This is the last chance for the Spurs to win it all. If they don't then I'm glad to have been a part of one of the greatest dynasties in all of sports.
The Spurs will be wasting a huge opportunity if they think that way. The "Big Three" can win up to four more titles if supported by some inspirational front office moves to bolster the bench. The hard part is done. It's the easier part that the Spurs need to get done this summer.
gameFACE
05-24-2008, 12:32 AM
No they didn't....but that really doesn't make a bit of difference to me. 4 NBA championsips, only 3 teams in history have more. Undefeated in the Finals with 4 NBA championships, only one team has more. That's pretty damn good for San Antonio and an EX ABA team. I want the repeat, but at the same time if team doesn't have it left in the tank then they don't have it left in the tank. No sense beating a dead horse. I refuse to get pissed off and bash the Spurs for this. For what? Running out of gas from winning?
Repeating is the next logical goal for the Spurs.
Tell you what if this squad can still manage to come back and win four in a row as a few teams have this decade they will be the toughest Spurs team ever. If not then yeah, they have four rings. But right now it's about a repeat. Be selfish.
Lakers Dynasty
05-24-2008, 12:37 AM
Wasn't it nice of the NBA to scheduled game 7 for Monday when they could have played Sunday?
You'd complain about getting short-changed on rest, particularly considering how you guys are now admitting to being "out of gas," - a condition frequently associated with the elderly.
midgetonadonkey
05-24-2008, 12:39 AM
The Spurs will be wasting a huge opportunity if they think that way. The "Big Three" can win up to four more titles if supported by some inspirational front office moves to bolster the bench. The hard part is done. It's the easier part that the Spurs need to get done this summer.
You are fucking retarded if you think the "Big Three" can win up to 4 more titles. It doesn't matter what moves the front office makes, they can't and won't win 4 more titles. I'm not even sure they can win one more much less 4 more.
Lakers Dynasty
05-24-2008, 12:44 AM
Four titles?
Your "big three" aren't going to win four GAMES.
T Park
05-24-2008, 12:44 AM
You are fucking retarded if you think the "Big Three" can win up to 4 more titles. It doesn't matter what moves the front office makes, they can't and won't win 4 more titles. I'm not even sure they can win one more much less 4 more.
Yes because a 26 year old, a 32 year old, and a 30 year old are washed up.
Go back to the club.
Slippy
05-24-2008, 12:51 AM
The lack of penetration, reliance on the jumpshot and how ugly their shots looked were telling signs again. The challenges were mounting, factor in age, an injured Manu and lack of rest between games - it was gonna take a toll.
A home crowd should help in the energy department, the question is how long can the Spurs sustain it?
Brutalis
05-24-2008, 12:53 AM
I am usually steadfast in my alliance to the Spurs...
but if they lose, fucking again, Sunday night, it's over for us.
They are not a dynasty, that's for sure, repeat first then talk
i'll make you a deal. your team wins one at all, before the spurs repeat, then you can talk. until then, you have to shut your stupid mouth.
deal?
efrem1
05-24-2008, 01:19 AM
This one day off between games is crummy. Last year against Utah, the team had a THREE day break between games 2 and 3. Also if I recall, we lost at Utah by 26 in Game 3 so cheer up folks.
midgetonadonkey
05-24-2008, 01:20 AM
Yes because a 26 year old, a 32 year old, and a 30 year old are washed up.
Go back to the club.
Fuck you. You gave up on them in 2005.
whottt
05-24-2008, 06:12 AM
:lmao at the LakerFans that think anyone here gives a shit what they think or that their opinion is any way respected. :lmao
You guys weren't even basketball fans the last time the Lakers made it out of the first round. You don't know shit.
In the future...if I want to hear the insight of a LakerFan, I'll cut a fart.
Remember that.
whottt
05-24-2008, 06:15 AM
And the Hornets are better...You'd have tro be a dumbass to take the Lakers over the Hornets if you could choose one of the two teams to contend with over the next 5 years.
And any LakerFan saying Duncan is washed up needs to check Kobe's age..and he's about to be playing a lot of extra games himself...
whottt
05-24-2008, 06:21 AM
Check my comments when we were down 0-2 to the Hornets...I had nothing but praise for them and considered them a dire threat. I gave them nothing but credit for kicking our asses. We're down 0-2 to the Lakers right now and I am telling you're not near as good as they are...you don't match up with us as well and this 0-2 record is due entirely to the Spurs age, jetlag, and the Hornets putting them through the ringer in the last round.
Even if we should lose(due to plain wearing out of the Spurs) ...you guys are gonna get fuckng rolled by whichever EC team you meet in the finals. Book it.
I know my team...you guys don't, this series so far is all about them and has very little to do with the Lakers. In fact based on what I've seen, the Lakers aren't even as good as I thought they were entering this series.
And don't be too surpsied if your team folds....they folded with regularity against Phoenix, the Spurs bitch. And I hate to tell you guys this, but Pau Gasol is not the cure for folding, he makes it more likely.
whottt
05-24-2008, 06:26 AM
I want to see the Lakers VS Lakers - David Stern
Nice job on the scheduling Dave...
Yeah, this is just a slightly better version of the Lakers team that let an Amare-less Suns team come back from 3-1 in a playoff series. Down 0-2 with the next two at home has to feel like a great opportunity to look to go up 3-2 in Game 5.
Yeah, this is just a slightly better version of the Lakers team that let an Amare-less Suns team come back from 3-1 in a playoff series. Down 0-2 with the next two at home has to feel like a great opportunity to look to go up 3-2 in Game 5.
And to further prove a point, that means the Lakers were owned in three straight games by Steve Nash, Boris Diaw, Tim Thomas, Shawn Marion and Leandro Barbosa. We're not talking Team USA here, other than Nash, that's a lineup of career playoff folders. And as much as SpursTalk hates Nash, you can't really say he chokes because if Duncan doesn't hit that 3, everyone would have been talking about how Nash went into San Antonio and stole a game. He's more a victim of playing for a shitty coach and in a system that is designed to fail in the playoffs. Look at the trash those Lakers were owned by.
aka_USAPA
05-24-2008, 06:35 AM
I'll be honest, the Spurs just flat out look like they are out of gas. It's not that they aren't trying, you can see the frustration, but "it's" just not there.
I don't particularly believe that the Lakers are outplaying the Spurs, it's more like the Spurs are underplaying the Lakers.
Eventually after so many games, players and teams just wear down and run out of gas. I don''t know if this is what is happening to the Spurs, if it's just temporary or not, I know they look just completely gassed. Even should they go on to win it all this season...there's no way there going to have anything left after a summer of international ball, for next season.
If it should be over...if the Spurs are finally out of gas, at least as they are currently constructed...and let's face it, we all know the day is coming soon, then I just want take my hat off to the Spurs, to Pop, to Tim Duncan, Manu, Bruce and Parker and all the other guys, and thank them for a job well done.
I'd rather tip my hat than trash them, because they've been one hell of a basketball team.
The Spurs looked beat. Their body language, their emotions... it does not look like they believe they can win. The Lakers can put that dagger in their throats by coming to S.A. with a win, and finishing up the series in S.A. with another blowout. The Spurs have no clue at this point what to do with the Lakers. They have so many weapons.
Like I said..., by the time the Lakers are done with the Spurs, I'll own this site!!!!!!!
ahahahhahahahahhahahahhahahahahhahahahahahhahahaha ha!!!!!!
whottt
05-24-2008, 06:40 AM
The Spurs looked beat.
Agree...
Their body language, their emotions... it does not look like they believe they can win.
Disagree...it does not look like they have the energy left to win. It's got literally nothing to do with belief.
The Lakers can put that dagger in their throats by coming to S.A. with a win, and finishing up the series in S.A. with another blowout.
Did you figure all that out on your own? I'm impressed.
The Spurs have no clue at this point what to do with the Lakers. They have so many weapons.
:lmao get fucking serious. Weapons...you gotta be kidding me.
Like I said..., by the time the Lakers are done with the Spurs, I'll own this site!!!!!!!
ahahahhahahahahhahahahhahahahahhahahahahahhahahaha ha!!!!!!
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polandprzem
05-24-2008, 07:52 AM
WellI do agree that Lakers are easier to beat by trhe spurs then NO were.
But sometimes it is matter of timing.
If we would get LA in 2nd round it would be much different.
Just take a look how was this playoffs going on. How much more energy spurs had in Suns series.
When I was mentining the worries about spurs playing bad when the intensity of games increased, most of the fans were saying STFU no b2b games in playoffs.
I do agree there were no b2b games but the intensity increased a lot.
I was almost sure that the spurs will get rolling in the 2nd game and can win the contest, but they failed.
And I feel like them, like somebody slaped me in the face and I have no strenght to give it back.
I'm not going to get caught up in this ''which playoff opponent is better'' nonsense. Normally I'd be mainlining tequila after watching the tag team of a Game 1 collapse and a Game 2 pasting, but if that last round has taught me anything about the playoffs this year, it's all fun and games until somebody loses at home. After all, the Spurs haven't lost one of those yet, just like the Lakers haven't.
1Parker1
05-24-2008, 08:48 AM
Spurs do look extremely gassed...even Pop. Which is scary. Yesterday you could just tell, the Lakers younger, fresher legs were just 1 step quicker on every single thing. There were times when 37 year old Derek Fisher was beating them down the floor for open layups.
The first two series for the Spurs were the most mentally draining series I think they've ever been a part of. These quick turnarounds probably aren't helping either.
Although I must say, God knows why Michael Finley is tired. Dude hasn't done crap since Game 1 of this postseason. :pctoss :lol
rascal
05-24-2008, 09:08 AM
Check my comments when we were down 0-2 to the Hornets...I had nothing but praise for them and considered them a dire threat. I gave them nothing but credit for kicking our asses. We're down 0-2 to the Lakers right now and I am telling you're not near as good as they are...you don't match up with us as well and this 0-2 record is due entirely to the Spurs age, jetlag, and the Hornets putting them through the ringer in the last round.
Even if we should lose(due to plain wearing out of the Spurs) ...you guys are gonna get fuckng rolled by whichever EC team you meet in the finals. Book it.
I know my team...you guys don't, this series so far is all about them and has very little to do with the Lakers. In fact based on what I've seen, the Lakers aren't even as good as I thought they were entering this series.
And don't be too surpsied if your team folds....they folded with regularity against Phoenix, the Spurs bitch. And I hate to tell you guys this, but Pau Gasol is not the cure for folding, he makes it more likely.
This is total bullshit based on emotion. The team that folded was the Hornets.
Nahtanoj
05-24-2008, 09:09 AM
The Big Three win 4 more titles? I can see 1-2 more at most during the Tim Duncan era.. the league is getting competitive again.
Nahtanoj
05-24-2008, 09:13 AM
And the Hornets are better...You'd have tro be a dumbass to take the Lakers over the Hornets if you could choose one of the two teams to contend with over the next 5 years.
And any LakerFan saying Duncan is washed up needs to check Kobe's age..and he's about to be playing a lot of extra games himself...
Well Tim Duncan is certainly still the best PF on the planet, anyone who says he is washed up just don't know shit... but you do make yourself look fucking stupid picking the Hornets over the next 5 years.
td4mvp3
05-24-2008, 09:26 AM
I'll be honest, the Spurs just flat out look like they are out of gas. It's not that they aren't trying, you can see the frustration, but "it's" just not there.
I don't particularly believe that the Lakers are outplaying the Spurs, it's more like the Spurs are underplaying the Lakers.
Eventually after so many games, players and teams just wear down and run out of gas. I don''t know if this is what is happening to the Spurs, if it's just temporary or not, I know they look just completely gassed. Even should they go on to win it all this season...there's no way there going to have anything left after a summer of international ball, for next season.
If it should be over...if the Spurs are finally out of gas, at least as they are currently constructed...and let's face it, we all know the day is coming soon, then I just want take my hat off to the Spurs, to Pop, to Tim Duncan, Manu, Bruce and Parker and all the other guys, and thank them for a job well done.
I'd rather tip my hat than trash them, because they've been one hell of a basketball team.
amen. and anyone saying the lakers will dominate for the next few years is kidding themselves. i don't see an overwhelming force because duncan and parker are doing their thing, there's no reason to think that gino, unhurt and rested, wouldn't be doing the same. thus, as those other young teams put it together, i think age becomes a factor for the lakers far faster than anyone thinks (kobe and odom and gasol, in particular, but that's me guessing, i haven't looked up their ages). i just think we hit a wall thanks to scheduling. give them 2 days and they wax this laker squad. aw well. it was fun while it lasted.
Mamba24
05-24-2008, 10:22 AM
Spurs do look extremely gassed...even Pop. Which is scary. Yesterday you could just tell, the Lakers younger, fresher legs were just 1 step quicker on every single thing. There were times when 37 year old Derek Fisher was beating them down the floor for open layups.
The first two series for the Spurs were the most mentally draining series I think they've ever been a part of. These quick turnarounds probably aren't helping either.
Although I must say, God knows why Michael Finley is tired. Dude hasn't done crap since Game 1 of this postseason. :pctoss :lol
Fisher is 34, not 37. I am so tired of this bitching and whining from Spurs fans. At this time of year, everybody is tired, everybody is hurting, you gotta play through it. If Manu wasn't hurt, the Spurs would be up 2-0 is the bullshit I'm hearing. Well, if he is so damn hurt, perhaps he shouldn't play. Well, if Bynum wasn't injured, I would be talking about a Lakers sweep. The Lakers know how to win on the road, don't assume just because the Spurs are going home you are gonna automatically win Games 3 & 4. A home crowd can only do so much...the players have to get it done.
Fisher is the only Laker who is over 30.
manubili
05-24-2008, 10:25 AM
You're right whott. These players have reached some kind of final or semifinal since 2003 (nba, olympics, world championship). That's a lot of games. injuries and fatigue in a span of a few years. The fatigue we're witnessing doesn't look like a temporary problem.
Spurs need to be smarter than ever. Specially Manu. If so, they can still win it all.
SenorSpur
05-24-2008, 10:45 AM
I'll be honest, the Spurs just flat out look like they are out of gas. It's not that they aren't trying, you can see the frustration, but "it's" just not there.
It sure looks that way to me, too.
Eventually after so many games, players and teams just wear down and run out of gas. I don''t know if this is what is happening to the Spurs, if it's just temporary or not, I know they look just completely gassed.
Barkley touched on this point during a TNT telecast earlier in the season. He stated how after several seasons of deep playoff runs (100+ games or more), it starts to take its toll - even on younger and mid-career players. For the older guys, it's even harder because it takes them longer to bounce back and they're more susceptible to injuries. He went onto say, for the older players and the older teams, that is why you see the dropoff in production on back-to-back games. He claimed that toward the end of his career, he couldn't even play in a B2B. From his view, he felt that's what the Spurs were enduring.
If it should be over...if the Spurs are finally out of gas, at least as they are currently constructed...and let's face it, we all know the day is coming soon, then I just want take my hat off to the Spurs, to Pop, to Tim Duncan, Manu, Bruce and Parker and all the other guys, and thank them for a job well done.
We all knew at some point, this "old-age-alone" philosophy would catch up to them. At this point, it's not clear if this is it. However if it is, my point is it didn't have to be this way. You don't suddenly go out and get car insurance AFTER you've had an accident. I would blame the FO for not having prepared better for this. For not surrounding the Big Three with a better supporting cast of role players. There's no reason to have carried such an unbalanced roster into this season. One or two younger or mid-career-type players could've provided better depth, skill, and energy.
SPARKY
05-24-2008, 10:56 AM
We all knew at some point, this "old-age-alone" philosophy would catch up to them. At this point, it's not clear if this is it. However if it is, my point is it didn't have to be this way. You don't suddenly go out and get car insurance AFTER you've had an accident. I blame to FO, for not having prepared better for this. There's no reason to have carried such an unbalanced roster into this season. One or two younger or mid-career-type players could've provided better depth, skill, and energy.
It worked out well last season. Blaming a front office that found a way to win 3 titles in 5 years shows just how much we Spurs fans have been spoiled as of late.
I will say this. The Spurs will need to retool the supporting cast, but the hard part of finding a superstar and two supporting stars is not a concern. The ride's supposedly been over before.
SenorSpur
05-24-2008, 11:08 AM
It worked out well last season. Blaming a front office that found a way to win 3 titles in 5 years shows just how much we Spurs fans have been spoiled as of late.
I will say this. The Spurs will need to retool the supporting cast, but the hard part of finding a superstar and two supporting stars is not a concern. The ride's supposedly been over before.
Winning a title is the ultimate. It's the perfect excuse for any FO to take a "stand pat" philosophy. No one would ever question that. However, depending on the team, it may or may not be a good idea. Ask Pat Riley how that "stand pat" philosophy of bringing back a roster of primarily "old heads", after their 2006 NBA title, worked out for him. The fact that the Spurs won the title last year DOES NOT mean, they were a flawless team. Same for it they win it they year. This team has holes. We shall see if the Fakers will be the team that exposes these flaws as the series goes on.
You're right and you hit on the point I was trying to make. The cast around the Big Three is shaky. They're more than capable. They simply seem to be unable to bring it consistently every night. As you know, in order to win a title, you have to have consistent contributions from bench players. Absolutely.
slayermin
05-24-2008, 11:52 AM
That seven game series against the Hornets took a lot out of me. I can just imagine what the Spurs are feeling. It's gotta take a toll.
But you know, it takes one game, as timvp would say. I think we win tomorrow. Game four is the one we may need something miraculous to happen.
aka_USAPA
05-24-2008, 11:56 AM
Game 4? Whatever happened to taking it one game at a time? I said it in another thread... the Spurs better win Game 3 or it will be over in 4!!!!
aka_USAPA
05-24-2008, 12:01 PM
Winning a title is the ultimate.
I feel ya, bro. It's not happening this year for the Spurs... not for a long time. The Spurs are yesterday's news. Things get old man... you know? But you can start anew. The Spurs are old... they are yesterday's child.
GrandeDavid
05-24-2008, 12:25 PM
They've got two home games now to get recharged and back in the series. Those players have world class physical therapy, pools, massage therapists etc. They'll be recovered by next season. And I want the Spurs to win the championship this year by any means. Forget next season. The Spurs will get some youth injected this summer, anyway.
I feel ya, bro. It's not happening this year for the Spurs... not for a long time. The Spurs are yesterday's news. Things get old man... you know? But you can start anew. The Spurs are old... they are yesterday's child.
Sounds like Kobe's speech last summer about the Lakers. :lmao:lmao:lmao
Sasha
05-24-2008, 01:08 PM
We're down 0-2 to the Lakers right now and I am telling you're not near as good as they are...you don't match up with us as well and this 0-2 record is due entirely to the Spurs age, jetlag, and the Hornets putting them through the ringer in the last round.
Even if we should lose(due to plain wearing out of the Spurs) ...you guys are gonna get fuckng rolled by whichever EC team you meet in the finals. Book it.
I know my team...you guys don't, this series so far is all about them and has very little to do with the Lakers. In fact based on what I've seen, the Lakers aren't even as good as I thought they were entering this series.
And don't be too surpsied if your team folds....they folded with regularity against Phoenix, the Spurs bitch. And I hate to tell you guys this, but Pau Gasol is not the cure for folding, he makes it more likely.
I like your analysis, and I really like the way you refuse to dump on your team. If you don't mind (since you obviously understand basketball so well), let me add what might be a little feminine intuition here...
While I was watching the game last night, the Spurs seemed to me to be sleepwalking. (I'm a little sick of this constant 'age, age, age' crap - they're worn out for a variety of reasons and certainly deserve to be.) But while I was watching them, it was almost like they were playing that game because they had to play it, not because they particularly cared one way or the other. It was like, If I can't get some rest off the floor, then I'll just get it right here. I almost felt like they took matters into their own hands. like it was more of a training session than a game. Whatever it was, it's a cinch they all got a little rest, huh?
It's a shame that they lost that game, or gave it up, or whatever it was that they did, but they sure as hell know what they have to do now. All that seriously worries me is Manu's ankle.
Someone said in an earlier post that if the Spurs pulled this out, this would be one of the grittiest teams ever. Well, we all know how much true grit these guys have, and how competitive they all are. They came into this series tired and beat up, and people act like they have no right to feel that way, like they're just old... but that's crap. They're human, and they'll bounce back.
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SPARKY
05-24-2008, 01:25 PM
Game 4? Whatever happened to taking it one game at a time? I said it in another thread... the Spurs better win Game 3 or it will be over in 4!!!!
eh, shut up you twit.
David Wooderson
05-24-2008, 01:41 PM
. . .the Lakers were owned in three straight games by Steve Nash, Boris Diaw, Tim Thomas, Shawn Marion and Leandro Barbosa. We're not talking Team USA here. . .
Purple & Gold
05-24-2008, 02:18 PM
Check my comments when we were down 0-2 to the Hornets...I had nothing but praise for them and considered them a dire threat. I gave them nothing but credit for kicking our asses. We're down 0-2 to the Lakers right now and I am telling you're not near as good as they are...you don't match up with us as well and this 0-2 record is due entirely to the Spurs age, jetlag, and the Hornets putting them through the ringer in the last round.
Even if we should lose(due to plain wearing out of the Spurs) ...you guys are gonna get fuckng rolled by whichever EC team you meet in the finals. Book it.
I know my team...you guys don't, this series so far is all about them and has very little to do with the Lakers. In fact based on what I've seen, the Lakers aren't even as good as I thought they were entering this series.
And don't be too surpsied if your team folds....they folded with regularity against Phoenix, the Spurs bitch. And I hate to tell you guys this, but Pau Gasol is not the cure for folding, he makes it more likely.
:lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao @ whottt trying to downplay the Lakeshow. The Hornets a better team?? Get da fuck outta here. If the Hornets were such a better team they wouldn't have lost to the Lakers at the end of the regular season and they would have wrapped up that #1 seed.
I understand your hate of the Lakers, but please give credit where credit is due. The Lakers are a damn good team and will only be that much better next year. And STFU you sound like a whiny ass bitch.
SenorSpur
05-24-2008, 02:51 PM
I like your analysis, and I really like the way you refuse to dump on your team. If you don't mind (since you obviously understand basketball so well), let me add what might be a little feminine intuition here...
While I was watching the game last night, the Spurs seemed to me to be sleepwalking. (I'm a little sick of this constant 'age, age, age' crap - they're worn out for a variety of reasons and certainly deserve to be.) But while I was watching them, it was almost like they were playing that game because they had to play it, not because they particularly cared one way or the other. It was like, If I can't get some rest off the floor, then I'll just get it right here. I almost felt like they took matters into their own hands. like it was more of a training session than a game. Whatever it was, it's a cinch they all got a little rest, huh?
It's a shame that they lost that game, or gave it up, or whatever it was that they did, but they sure as hell know what they have to do now. All that seriously worries me is Manu's ankle.
Someone said in an earlier post that if the Spurs pulled this out, this would be one of the grittiest teams ever. Well, we all know how much true grit these guys have, and how competitive they all are. They came into this series tired and beat up, and people act like they have no right to feel that way, like they're just old... but that's crap. They're human, and they'll bounce back.
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Don't look now, but these games are being played every other day. There's no doubt that will be a huge disadvantage for our team. I don't know why the league scheduled the games in this manner.
He's talking about being out of gas because of "summer" ball, Idiot!
No he was talking about the Spurs possibly being out of gas for next season because of a summer of international ball...ie the Olympics.
Parker, Manu and Oberto all will be in China. Duncan will not.
Make sure you know what you're talking about before responding back.
But wait...it's Princess Pimp and we all know that rarely happens.
Sasha
05-24-2008, 08:11 PM
Don't look now, but these games are being played every other day. There's no doubt that will be a huge disadvantage for our team. I don't know why the league scheduled the games in this manner.
LOL - that's what I mean! They slept through the last game, so that was their rest. They don't get to rest anymore. It's time to play Spurs basketball!
Seriously, I guess some folks really think the games are scheduled this way to make it impossible for the Spurs because they're so old...and tired...and blah blah blah... But I think we'll just have to see what happens.
I'm sure not ready to give it up yet!:flag:
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