This will end up like 2004, Laker fans

[Man of Steel]

I'm sure you Licker fans remember 2004.

Your "Dream Team" with Payton, Malone, etc.

The alleged greatest team of all-stars ever assembled.

Heavily favored. Was to be the the greatest mis-match in the history of the NBA Finals. No need to even play the games. Get the parade route ready for the Lickers.

Now what happened?

Lets see...

Mmmm...
[edit] Schedule
All dates appear at local time. The starting times are scheduled starting times (not the actual tip-off). Games were held three times a week on Sundays, Tuesdays and Thursdays.

Game 1 - June 6, Sunday, 6:00 p.m. PDT, at Los Angeles Detroit 87, Los Angeles 75: Detroit leads series 1–0[17]
Game 2 - June 8, Tuesday, 6:00 p.m. PDT, at Los Angeles Los Angeles 99, Detroit 91 (OT)]: Series tied 1–1[18]
Game 3 - June 10, Thursday, 9:00 p.m. EDT, at Detroit Detroit 88, Los Angeles 68]: Detroit leads series 2–1[19]
Game 4 - June 13, Sunday, 9:00 p.m. EDT, at Detroit Detroit 88, Los Angeles 80]: Detroit leads series 3–1[20]
Game 5 - June 15, Tuesday, 9:00 p.m. EDT, at Detroit Detroit 100, Los Angeles 87]: Detroit wins series 4–1[7]
The Finals were played using a 2-3-2 site format, where the first two and last two games are held at the team with home court advantage. This is only used in the Finals, all other playoff games are held in a 2-2-1-1-1 format (the team with home court advantage starts).[21]


[edit] Features
The NBA heavily publicized the series as it has done with all other NBA Finals series. There was a sentiment among fans that the Pistons were the clear underdogs, and many described the series as a David vs. Goliath match-up.[7] The Lakers had a lineup of Stars such as Karl Malone, Gary Payton, Derek Fisher, Kobe Bryant, and Shaquille O'Neal - their offensive capability was expected to overpower Detroit's defensive-based game plan.[22] Due to the extreme rarity of having 4 players considered future Hall-of-Fame locks in one lineup, the 2004 Lakers had been dubbed the "Greatest team ever assembled".

Payton and Malone also added to the publicity of the Finals. Perennial All-Stars who had both previously reached the Finals, Payton had led the Seattle SuperSonics there in 1996, while Malone had led the Utah Jazz there in 1997 and 1998.[23] However, Michael Jordan and the Bulls denied them championship rings a total of three times. By the time of Jordan's retirement in 2003, the two veterans were aged and failed to lead their teams deep into the playoffs.[23][24] Thus, this Finals series was seen as the last chance for two of the greatest players in NBA history to finally become NBA champions (Malone later retired while Payton finally won a championship as a key bench player for the Miami Heat).


[edit] Game One
Sunday, June 6, 2004, 14:30 at the Staples Center.

Considered to be a stunning upset by most of the NBA world, the Detroit Pistons managed to defeat the Lakers with imposing defense.[25] Defensively clamping down on everyone but Bryant and O'Neal, the Pistons managed to hold everyone else to a total of 16 points.

The Pistons trailed the Lakers 41–40 at halftime, but a 10–4 surge capped by Billups's 3-pointer gave the Pistons the lead. O'Neal's foul trouble furthered the scoring gap, with the Pistons leading by 13 points early in the fourth quarter.

Team 1st Qt. 2nd Qt. 3rd Qt. 4th Qt. Total
Detroit 22 18 24 23 87
Los Angeles 19 22 17 17 75


[edit] Game Two
Tuesday, June 8, 2004, 15:04 at the Staples Center.

The second game was close throughout the first half, but in the third quarter Detroit would score 30 points, cutting the deficit 68–66. However, at the end of the fourth quarter, Kobe Bryant's 3-point shot at 2.1 seconds to go would tie the game at 89–89. The Lakers and Pistons would then go to overtime, with the Lakers outscoring the Pistons 10–2.

Team 1st Qt. 2nd Qt. 3rd Qt. 4th Qt. OT Total
Detroit 16 20 30 23 2 91
Los Angeles 18 26 24 21 10 99


[edit] Game Three
Thursday, June 10, 2004, 14:31 at The Palace of Auburn Hills.

The Pistons beat Los Angeles by 20 in their first NBA Finals appearance together at The Palace of Auburn Hills since 1990[26] to take a 2–1 lead in the series. The 68 points scored by the Lakers set a franchise record for the fewest number of points scored in a playoff game.

Team 1st Qt. 2nd Qt. 3rd Qt. 4th Qt. Total
Los Angeles 16 16 19 17 68
Detroit 24 15 24 25 88


[edit] Game Four
Sunday, June 13, 2004, 14:49 at The Palace of Auburn Hills.

Again, the Pistons defeated the Lakers, although this time by eight, to take a 3–1 series advantage.

O'Neal scored 36 for the Lakers and Bryant scored 20 but shot 32 percent from the field.

O'Neal made 16 out of 21 shots, and according to the AP report "he might have doubled those totals if his teammates had gotten him the ball more often. But Bryant somehow found it necessary to launch 14 attempts in the first half and 25 overall, many of which were both unwise and off-target."[27]

Karl Malone struggling on a sprained right knee played his last NBA game.

Team 1st Qt. 2nd Qt. 3rd Qt. 4th Qt. Total
Los Angeles 22 17 17 24 80
Detroit 21 20 15 32 88


[edit] Game Five
Tuesday, June 15, 2004, 14:32 at The Palace of Auburn Hills.

In Game 5, the Pistons won their first championship since 1990, and Larry Brown finally won a professional title. The Pistons defense had overcome the high-scoring Laker offense, winning the game by 13, winning the series 4-1, and also ending a long Laker dynasty that lasted for many years. The game saw the end of Phil Jackson's first run as the coach (he returned for the 2005-06 season), and saw O'Neal and Payton's last games in Laker uniforms (O'Neal and Payton were both acquired by the soon-to-be NBA Champions Miami Heat and Malone, who did not play, retired).

Team 1st Qt. 2nd Qt. 3rd Qt. 4th Qt. Total
Los Angeles 24 21 14 28 87
Detroit 25 30 27 18 100

[Lakers14Titles]

This Laker team is better than that one.

[Man of Steel]

Four Hall of Famers?

What kind of dope are you smoking?

[Lakers14Titles]

Bro this one of the better Laker teams they've had. It's deep, younger, quicker, and better on D. And a far better passing team than any of the 3-Peat teams.

And Malone was hurt half the year and old (missed all but one game of the Finals), Payton was terrible that season. I don't fucking care if they are HOF'ers or not, they didn't play well.

[Man of Steel]

Bro you're a fool. Put that bong down, step away from the keyboard and nobody will get hurt...

[Lakers14Titles]

Whatever man. You obviously don't know much about the game....hence why you are a Spurs homer I guess.

[Helix Versa]

So, in essence you're basically admitting to defeat? Because the only logical way we'd face the Pistons is if we got to the NBA finals. Also, in 2004 there's a number of differences.

1) Malone isn't trying to give his Alabama Black Snake to Kobe's wife...

2) Malone isn't trying to play on tore-up knee...

3) There isn't 4 massive egos vying for control of the Lakers--there is really only one and a bunch of happy semi-stars.

4) Also, just because there is 4 all-stars on a team doesn't always equate to being overtly more talented than a current team. (See: Real Madrid vs. Barcelona '05-'07)

5) Both Flip Saunders and Doc Rivers are coaching the other two teams...'nuff said.

[Man of Steel]

You know when to stop.

You're smarter than most.

2004--meet 2008.

[Helix Versa]

Wait, Malone was from Louisiana

...and Kobe isn't playing with allegations over his head.

[pakzz]

past is past....

Lakers will win it this time! :lobt2:

[Lakers14Titles]

At least you know the Spurs are done, thanks for admitting defeat already loser.

[Dim Tuncan]

The OP has not made a case for WHY this year will end up like 2004.

He made a claim, copied and pasted the Wiki, and that was that.

Man of Steel, why do you think this year will end up like 2004?

Truthfully, I could see it happening - with past-their-prime-superstars-overloaded Boston playing the 2004 Lakers.

But unless that's what you meant, you're a 100% gay retard faggot.

[Lakers14Titles]

Wait, Malone was from Louisiana

...and Kobe isn't playing with allegations over his head.

Alabama/Louisiana who gives a shit. Same fucking rat's nest.

[Helix Versa]

Whatever man, if you do fall--let me know the next opportunity for you to actually string a back-to-back together.

[Man of Steel]

So, in essence you're basically admitting to defeat? Because the only logical way we'd face the Pistons is if we got to the NBA finals. Also, in 2004 there's a number of differences.

1) Malone isn't trying to give his Alabama Black Snake to Kobe's wife...

2) Malone isn't trying to play on tore-up knee...

3) There isn't 4 massive egos vying for control of the Lakers--there is really only one and a bunch of happy semi-stars.

4) Also, just because there is 4 all-stars on a team doesn't always equate to being overtly more talented than a current team. (See: Real Madrid vs. Barcelona '05-'07)

5) Both Flip Saunders and Doc Rivers are coaching the other two teams...'nuff said.

Helix, Helix, Helix,

Nice try, son.

No--2004 and 2008 are parallel because the much vaunted and heavily favored Lickers will fall when the entire world wrote off its opponent.

See--that simple.

Now go huddle up with your little buddies above--cuddle up and get some sleep.

[Lakers14Titles]

The Lakers are heavily favored? ROFL!!!!!!!

[Helix Versa]

Alabama/Louisiana who gives a shit. Same fucking rat's nest.

Lol.

Actually, there are some fun cities in Louisiana...so all thing's are not equal. Mardi Gras is like heaven--or was before I got hitched j/k.

[Man of Steel]

The OP has not made a case for WHY this year will end up like 2004.

He made a claim, copied and pasted the Wiki, and that was that.

Man of Steel, why do you think this year will end up like 2004?

Truthfully, I could see it happening - with past-their-prime-superstars-overloaded Boston playing the 2004 Lakers.

But unless that's what you meant, you're a 100% gay retard faggot.


And why don't you jump into bed with your Licker buddies you prick

[Dim Tuncan]

Heavily vaunted?

IIRC when the season started the Lakers weren't even projected to make the playoffs.

You're a fucking idiot. Root for the Spurs with me and stop acting like a fucking homo.

[Helix Versa]

Helix, Helix, Helix,

Nice try, son.

No--2004 and 2008 are parallel because the much vaunted and heavily favored Lickers will fall when the entire world wrote off its opponent.

See--that simple.

Now go huddle up with your little buddies above--cuddle up and get some sleep.

The Lakers are not heavily favored like they were in 2004. And with the delusional rhetoric you've been spewing, wait, copying and pasting--it is you who needs to cuddle with your fellow Spurs fans.

So Bukkake on you.

[Dim Tuncan]

And why don't you jump into bed with your Licker buddies you prick

Eat a fucking dick, Nancy-boi. You made a claim but haven't backed it up yet. That is to say, you're full of shit. Apparently getting your ass gaped at the bath house nightly has given you room for extra. Pathetic.

[Man of Steel]

Heavily vaunted?

IIRC when the season started the Lakers weren't even projected to make the playoffs.

You're a fucking idiot. Root for the Spurs with me and stop acting like a fucking homo.
Hey dumbass--

Get the thing out of your mouth and go back to sleep with your new buddies.

Nearly every pundit has chosen the Lakers to defeat the Spurs. Too bad you're too excited by Licker fans to understand that.

[Lakers14Titles]

LOL two Spurs fans punking each other over the Lakers. Nice.

[cobbler]

Bro you're a fool. Put that bong down, step away from the keyboard and nobody will get hurt...

Actually, you are the one sounding foolish. The lakers were doing fine in the playoffs. Malone reinjured his knee and couldnt play in the finals. You guys are already whining about how Manu isnt 100% yet when our starting PF goes down and doesnt even play its a non issue?

To talk about Malone and Payton in 2004 as if they were the players they were in their prime is also a misnomer. But i stll believe that if Malone stayed healthy, we would have beat the Pistons.

And i believe it was in espn's hollingers article today where he shows numbers that actually support 14 rings comments about this being a better team than the 3peat teams. It was a response to Barkely's saying just that wed night.

[Man of Steel]

That would be funny but this turd is not a Spurs fan.

[Lakers14Titles]

Nearly every pundit has chosen the Lakers to defeat the Spurs. Too bad you're too excited by Licker fans to understand that.

So far they're right too aren't they?

[Lakers14Titles]

That would be funny but this turd is not a Spurs fan.

Well neither are you...because I thought Spurs fans actually understood the game. Guess I was wrong.

[Man of Steel]

Series is not over, James.

[Dim Tuncan]

Hey dumbass--

Get the thing out of your mouth and go back to sleep with your new buddies.

Nearly every pundit has chosen the Lakers to defeat the Spurs. Too bad you're too excited by Licker fans to understand that.

Newsflash -

The 2004 Lakers didn't lose because the "pundits" overwhelmingly predicted that they would defeat the Pistons.

They lost because the Pistons were a better team.

If these Lakers lose it will not have anything to do with "pundits."

It will be because they weren't the best team.

You, sir, are a fucking moron if you believe that the "pundits" have anything to do with the outcomes of games.

[Man of Steel]

Well neither are you...because I thought Spurs fans actually understood the game. Guess I was wrong.

Man--I don't know why the year 2004 gets such a charge out of Licker fans (and undercover Licker fans)!

[Man of Steel]

Newsflash -

The 2004 Lakers didn't lose because the "pundits" overwhelmingly predicted that they would defeat the Pistons.

They lost because the Pistons were a better team.

If these Lakers lose it will not have anything to do with "pundits."

It will be because they weren't the best team.

You, sir, are a fucking moron if you believe that the "pundits" have anything to do with the outcomes of games.

And you--my friend--obviously has to be spoon-fed everything in order to employ simple deduction.

Everyone picked LA in 2004.

Just like this year.

THey still got beat.

Like they will this year.

Simple enough, Buckwheat?

[Dim Tuncan]

And you--my friend--obviously has to be spoon-fed everything in order to employ simple deduction.

Everyone picked LA in 2004.

Just like this year.

THey still got beat.

Like they will this year.

Simple enough, Buckwheat?

Correlation proves causation. Gotcha.

Something tells me you didn't go to college.

[Lakers14Titles]

College? How about nursery school?

[cobbler]

And you--my friend--obviously has to be spoon-fed everything in order to employ simple deduction.

Everyone picked LA in 2004.

Just like this year.

THey still got beat.

Like they will this year.

Simple enough, Buckwheat?

Hmmmmm.... all i heard all year long was BOSTON. Any one of the four teams remaining could win it. As a laker fan, anything beyond this point is gravy. We werent supposed to even make the playoffs this year. Guys stepped up, a couple of good trades, and now were a contender. Favorite? That recognition has only come recently with their play being the decision maker as opposed to hype. With Bynum and Ariza comming back next year full strength i imagine we will be pre season favorites like you are implying we are this year. But guess what? Thats why they play the season and playoffs. Injuries occur, trades happen, players step up, players fail. What does the pre season or pre series predictions have to do with anything anyway? All useless.

[Lakers14Titles]

JT when are we hanging out?

[J.T.]

JT when are we hanging out?

I only hang out with A list celebs and rapist NBA MVPs. . . So, never.

[Lakers14Titles]

I only hang out with A list celebs and rapist NBA MVPs. . . So, never.
Don't be that way, I miss you.

[Man of Steel]

Actully I did.

You sir/madame/whatever--appear to be the one who is the less than educated around here.

I have made a comparison.

(I'm going to try to teach you something here, so you might want to get your mom or dad to read over your shoulder so they can help you understand).

I am comparing 2004 series between Lakers and the Pistons with the very new and on-going series with the Spurs.

I am PREDICTING the Lakers will encounter the same outcome (except we will need more games in which to accomplish that).

Understand, Buck?

[J.T.]

Don't be that way, I miss you.

We can hang out but first you need to get a keg of MGD and no less than an ounce of cocaine. I'll provide the party location as well as a guarantee of no trouble from the law.

[Man of Steel]

College? How about nursery school?


This doesn't concern you, friend. And believe me--you are way over your head.

[Lakers14Titles]

We can hang out but first you need to get a keg of MGD and no less than an ounce of cocaine. I'll provide the party location as well as a guarantee of no trouble from the law.

MGD?? Come on man, if you want BEER we're going with Newcastle first of all. Coke? Uh no. I can probably score you some weed though.

[Lakers14Titles]

This doesn't concern you, friend. And believe me--you are way over your head.

Steelo, you're coming over to hang with JT and myself right?

[J.T.]

MGD?? Come on man, if you want BEER we're going with Newcastle first of all. Coke? Uh no. I can probably score you some weed though.

Weed? Please, I freaking live with two guys who push weed. I can get high for free any day of the week.

[Dim Tuncan]

Actully I did.

You sir/madame/whatever--appear to be the one who is the less than educated around here.

I have made a comparison.

(I'm going to try to teach you something here, so you might want to get your mom or dad to read over your shoulder so they can help you understand).

I am comparing 2004 series between Lakers and the Pistons with the very new and on-going series with the Spurs.

I am PREDICTING the Lakers will encounter the same outcome (except we will need more games in which to accomplish that).

Understand, Buck?

You've raised dullness to a fine art.

You and ducks should move to California and apply for a fag marriage license.

[Lakers14Titles]

Weed? Please, I freaking live with two guys who push weed. I can get high for free any day of the week.

HAHAHA! I figured that when you started talking about Coke. Cool you can hook me up then, even though I haven't smoked in 15 years.

[J.T.]

Come on, Lakers14. If you're a bigshot Hollywood Lakers fan, I'm sure you can score a zone of blow. Just go find the first strung out black dude walking around smoking a cigarette and ask him.

[Lakers14Titles]

You've raised dullness to a fine art.

You and ducks should move to California and apply for a fag marriage license.

Only in San Francisco man.

[Man of Steel]

You've raised dullness to a fine art.

You and ducks should move to California and apply for a fag marriage license.

Dim--you've blown your cover, my friend.

You've been a poster here for a month.

You spend the majority of your time giving shit to Spurs fans who don't kiss ass with the Licker fans.

Mmmmmm....

[Lakers14Titles]

Come on, Lakers14. If you're a bigshot Hollywood Lakers fan, I'm sure you can score a zone of blow. Just go find the first strung out black dude walking around smoking a cigarette and ask him.

I'm a smart Lakers fan, I live nowhere near Hollywood.

Uh you don't buy coke on the streets, unless you want to die.

[J.T.]

Or go over to the Bay Area and get some LSD. That'll make for a fun night.

[Man of Steel]

Steelo, you're coming over to hang with JT and myself right?

Lets do it--as long as Dim doesn't get invited, too.

[Trainwreck2100]

WTF kinda laker fan cant score coke?

[J.T.]

I'm a smart Lakers fan, I live nowhere near Hollywood.

Uh you don't buy coke on the streets, unless you want to die.

You're killing me, Smalls. I could touch down at LAX and get an eight ball before I even got to the cab.

[Lakers14Titles]

WTF kinda laker fan cant score coke?

A poor one??

[Lakers14Titles]

You're killing me, Smalls. I could touch down at LAX and get an eight ball before I even got to the cab.

HAHA yep I know you can.

[Dim Tuncan]

Dim--you've blown your cover, my friend.

You've been a poster here for a month.

You spend the majority of your time giving shit to Spurs fans who don't kiss ass with the Licker fans.

Mmmmmm....

Yes, my cover is blown.

I'm a lifelong bball junky and Spurs fan who dislikes fallacious arguments and homers. I confess.

You got me bro.

[Trainwreck2100]

A poor one??

If you ain't pawned your computer you ain't poor

[J.T.]

A poor one??

Dude a zone of blow is like, $800 tops. I make that in about four hours.

[Lakers14Titles]

Dude a zone of blow is like, $800 tops. I make that in about four hours.

Turning tricks?

[J.T.]

Turning tricks?

Wouldn't you like to know.

[Lakers14Titles]

Wouldn't you like to know.

Depends. :)

Ok I'm going to bed. In all seriousness, I was just fucking around with you guys. I've been reading this board for years, and frankly there hasn't been much to cheer about if you're a Lakers fan for years. So finally when there was a little glimmer of hope for some success, I decided to have a litte fun. Was I being a dick? Yes. I admit it.

You guys are good sports. I'll be back and you can give me some more shit. Good luck to you.

[Man of Steel]

Yes, my cover is blown.

I'm a lifelong bball junky and Spurs fan who dislikes fallacious arguments and homers. I confess.

You got me bro.

Lets see...

Just a small sampling of your posts...

Vujacic Flops

(1) Everyone dogging The Machine would probably have curled up in the fetal position and cried like the little faggot bitch they are, had they been the recipient of that elbow

(2) I like the kid's game, and think that he'd fit really well in our system. I'd like to see if Buford can sign him this offseason.

(3) Per my Laker fan friends in LA, Stu Lantz was the one who nicknamed him. He did not apply that name to himself, in spite of the lies of Doug Collins and Marv Albert.




Re: The Lakers Are Awful

To the OP: I understand you're upset (we all are), but you're temporarily acting like a fucking moron and you aren't living in reality.

LA played a great game. Give them props.


Re: Ted Kennedy hospitalized


Originally Posted by jochhejaam
Dude, that's psycho.
As much as I may dislike what Kennedy has stood for, there is nothing in me that finds his situation the least bit humorous.

I just happen to believe that under the appropriate conditions and with correct motives it is entirely righteous and morally proper to rejoice in the demise of the wicked man and evildoer.






Re: Orsborn: Kobe's Unselfishness Impresses The Most


Originally Posted by ducks
what he did was very selfish
he wanted to get the lakers in a hole so he could be the hero

(rolls eyes)






Re: Vujacic Flops


Originally Posted by David Wooderson
It's sad that this great basketball league has diminished to the point where guys get paid millions of dollars to play a contact sport, then tattle to the league when one of their players gets a hard hit, intentional or otherwise.

Did you think that when we sent a tape in on Kobe's "unnatural basketball act" on Manu and got him suspended? (which was much less egregious than Bowen's Elbow on Vujacic, I hate to say)

Some of the homers around here are just so blinded by their bias. Wish there were more Spurs fans like me.









Re: Official Horry Thread - Hope West get's better

Sad to see Big Shot Bob reduced to a cheap goon. To my fellow Spurs fans, sorry, but Horry knew exactly what he was doing. Classless.

Get well David West. Come to game 7 healthy so my Spurs can bust your ass fair and square