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WalterBenitez
05-31-2008, 07:05 AM
SAN ANTONIO.- Aunque uno no va a quedarse amargado todas las vacaciones, las primeras 24 horas me ponen un poco triste. Estoy dolido. Entiendo que no se puede dar todos los años, pero sí... internamente siento bronca por ver a los Lakers en la final sabiendo que podíamos estar nosotros. Fundamentalmente porque creo que esta vez es diferente a las otras dos eliminaciones que me tocaron vivir en la NBA. Dije que me sentía responsable y estoy muy seguro de eso, porque no pude dar todo lo que yo sé que puedo dar.

Si los mejores jugadores de un equipo no juegan bien ni están sanos, es muy dificil pasar una serie tan dura y pareja. Podés arreglártelas ante los rivales con menos poderío, pero no en una instancia como esta. Uno puede tener un mal partido, pero no toda una serie. Siento que el equipo me extrañó y no estuve para responder.

No lo puse como excusa antes y no lo voy a hacer ahora que quedamos eliminados, pero muchos me preguntan por la lesión del tobillo, así que les cuento. Esto empezó antes de los playoffs, cuando estuve sin jugar algunos partidos. Después, se resintió en el segundo enfrentamiento contra Phoenix. En algunos partidos me sentí mejor y, en otros, peor. A veces, aunque estaba mal, como en el tercer partido contra los Lakers, la cosa se disimuló porque metí 5 de los 7 triples que tiré. No fue una lesion dolorosa, ni inaguantable, pero sí una que me limitaba en varios movimientos y que no me permitía el cambio de velocidad, de ritmos o de ir bien arriba una vez que superaba a mi defensor; eso en todo jugador de básquetbol es importantísimo. Pese a eso, podía haber tirado mejor y también podía haber tomado mejores decisiones, de eso no tengo dudas.

Pero volviendo a la final del Oeste, en definitiva, fue una serie muy pareja. Uno puede quedarse con el 4-1 o ver que en los tres partidos que terminaron definiendo la serie pudo pasar cualquier cosa. Uno con un triple que no entró, otro con un foul que se da o no. No jugamos brillante pero luchamos siempre, hicimos grandes esfuerzos y estuvimos siempre ahí. En menos de 48 horas, tras ganar un juego 7 durísimo con New Orleans, llegamos a sacarle 20 puntos a los Lakers. Y repito, si en ese partido estábamos todos bien, no perdíamos.

Cómo seguirá el equipo la próxima temporada, todavía no lo sé. Es muy raro que se mantenga el 100% de un plantel, como del año último a éste. Seguramente los dirigentes tendrán un largo invierno para ver posibilidades y sumar algún par de piernas frescas. Pero a veces lo que te ofrecen no coincide con lo que uno pretende.

De cara a los Juegos, por la lesión, si les digo que no estoy un poco preocupado les miento. Calculo que no va a pasar nada. Recién ahora me pusieron una inyección y me dijeron que en dos semanas todo tendría que estar bien. Quiero llegar a la concentración al ciento por ciento, para que los Juegos no terminen siendo un sufrimiento.

Aunque ya pasaron unos días, quiero felicitar a todo el plantel de Libertad por haber ganado la Liga. Realmente me puse muy contento y por el contexto de las últimos columnas no había tenido posibilidad de saludarlos. Me pusieron realmente muy contento, asi que ¡gracias! Y ya que estoy hablando de la Liga, aprovecho para decir que estoy en desacuerdo con la regla de sumar un tercer extranjero. Fue algo que se probó con anterioridad y no dio resultados. No creo que los clubes consigan abaratar costos, ya que si teniendo un cupo de 2, contratan 5 o 6 por año (entre los recambios), la lógica dice que con 3 cupos van a terminar usando entre 7 y 9. Los americanos buenos y conocidos valen como los nacionales buenos y conocidos, y esos son los que no se cambian. Con lo caro de los pasajes, las fichas, comisiones, etc., van a gastar más que antes y encima, no sólo dejando sin trabajo a 16 jugadores más sino que con menos posibilidad de desarrollo a jugadores nacionales, que tienen un tipo de compromiso que, muchas veces, los extranjeros no otorgan. Si quieren bajar el presupuesto, con inteligencia, pueden ponerse de acuerdo y decir: "Hasta acá llegamos. Más de esto no pagamos". Pero como los dirigentes no tienen unidad de criterio y palabra para respetar los acuerdos, dependen de que alguien ponga una regla así. Una lástima.

Bueno... nada más. El "año NBA" se terminó y todavía no me afeité, porque no tuve tiempo, pero en unos días más dejo el "look" playoffs y paso a uno más fresco de vacaciones. Al regreso, seguiremos en contacto.

m33p0
05-31-2008, 07:30 AM
please forego the olympics, manu. you've already done your part for your country when you led argentina to a gold. we need you healthy and well-rested.

Emanuel20
05-31-2008, 07:34 AM
Is someone going to translate?
Thank you!

Spurs Brazil
05-31-2008, 08:31 AM
I don't undestand Spanish very well but about his injury he said pain wasn't the problem. The big think is the injury limited his moviment and he could't change speed and he could't go to basket after get past his defender.

I know some of our friends from Argentina can do a better job translating this

Emanuel20
05-31-2008, 08:39 AM
I don't undestand Spanish very well but about his injury he said pain wasn't the problem. The big think is the injury limited his moviment and he could't change speed and he could't go to basket after get past his defender.

I know some of our friends from Argentina can do a better job translating this

Thanks!

BigBigSpur
05-31-2008, 08:44 AM
I don't undestand Spanish very well but about his injury he said pain wasn't the problem. The big think is the injury limited his moviment and he could't change speed and he could't go to basket after get past his defender.

I know some of our friends from Argentina can do a better job translating this

Thank you.
And waiting the translation of the whole passage.

amy020
05-31-2008, 08:46 AM
waiting for translation

1Parker1
05-31-2008, 08:57 AM
He says F.U to the Spurstalk posters and "fans" who want to trade my ass after all I've done for this team the past 5 seasons.

:)

exstatic
05-31-2008, 08:57 AM
He says F.U to the Spurstalk posters and "fans" who want to trade my ass after all I've done for this team the past 5 seasons.

:)

+1

1Parker1
05-31-2008, 09:03 AM
Aunque uno no va a quedarse amargado todas las vacaciones, las primeras 24 horas me ponen un poco triste. Estoy dolido. Entiendo que no se puede dar todos los años, pero sí... internamente siento bronca por ver a los Lakers en la final sabiendo que podíamos estar nosotros. Fundamentalmente porque creo que esta vez es diferente a las otras dos eliminaciones que me tocaron vivir en la NBA. Dije que me sentía responsable y estoy muy seguro de eso, porque no pude dar todo lo que yo sé que puedo dar.

My rough Spanish translation (based on 4 years of Spanish back in HS so take it for what it's worth) :lol:

Before we embark on our summer vacations, these last 24 hours have made me a little sad mood. I'm depressed. I know that you cannot win it every year, but yes, we believed we could have beaten the Lakers and they are not that much better a team than us. Fundamentally, I believe that this elimination has been different than any other elimination that I've lived through in the NBA. Because I believe it was my fault, that I couldn't/didn't do, everything I know that I could do.

1Parker1
05-31-2008, 09:06 AM
Google Translation:


San Antonio .- Although one is not going to stay bitter all the holidays, the first 24 hours I put a little sad. I am distressed. I understand that you can not give every year, but ... Internally feel angry to see the Lakers in the finals knowing that we could be. Basically because I believe that this time is different from the other two eliminations that I played live in the NBA. I said that I felt responsible and I am very sure of that, because I could not give everything that I know I can give.

If the best players from a team not playing well and are not healthy, it is very difficult to pass a series so hard and partner. You can arreglártelas before rivals with less power, but not in an instance like this. One can have a bad game, but not an entire series. I feel that the team and I am surprised I was not to answer.

Do not put as an excuse before and not what I'm going to do now that we were eliminated, but many ask me by the ankle injury, so I am counting them. That started before the playoffs, when I was without playing some games. Then suffered in the second clash against Phoenix. In some games I felt better and others worse. Sometimes, although he was evil, as in the third game against the Lakers, disguising thing because metí 5 of 7 triples that tiré. It was not painful injury, or unbearable, but one that I am limited in several movements and I am not allowed to change the speed, rhythms or going well above once exceeded my defender; throughout this basketball player is very important. Despite this, he could have thrown better and also could have taken better decisions, that I have no doubts.

But coming to the end of the West, ultimately, was a series very partner. One can stay with the 4-1 or see that in all three matches ended by defining the series could move anything. One with a triple that did not enter, another with a foul that occurs or not. Do not play brilliantly but always fought, and we made great efforts were always there. In less than 48 hours after winning a game 7 durísimo with New Orleans, we get 20 points for the Lakers. And I repeat, if that party were all well, not lost.

How will the team next season, still do not know. It is very rare to keep 100% of a stock, as of last year to it. Surely the leaders will have a long winter to see possibilities and add some fresh pair of legs. But sometimes what you offer does not match what one seeks.

Looking at the Games by the injury, if I say that I am not a bit worried them up. I reckon that is not going to pass anything. Just now I had an injection and told me that in two weeks everything should be fine. I want to reach the concentration hundred percent, so that the Games do not end up being suffering.

Although already spent a few days, I want to congratulate the entire stock of Liberty for having won the league. I really very happy and in the context of past columns had no chance to greet them. I had really very happy, so thanks! And since I am speaking of the League take to say that I disagree with the rule by adding a third foreigner. It was something that was tested earlier and did not yield results. I do not think that clubs achieve lower costs, as if taking a quota of 2, hired 5 or 6 per year (including spare parts), logic says that with 3 using quotas will finish between 7 and 9. The Americans good and worth known as the national good and acquaintances, and those are the ones who are not changed. With the expensive tickets, chips, commissions, etc.., Will spend more than before and above, not only leaving 16 players to work more but with less possibility of developing national players, who have a kind of compromise who often do not give foreigners. If they want to lower the budget, with intelligence, can agree and say: "Until we got here. More than that does not pay". But as the leaders do not have unity of approach and call for respecting agreements, depend on someone put a rule well. A pity.

Well ... nothing else. The "year NBA" is still not finished and I shaved because I did not have time, but few more days left in the look and playoffs one step cooler holiday. In return, we will continue to contact.

michaelwcho
05-31-2008, 09:30 AM
It's funny. On the radio and even around here, people are conceding the Lakers not only this year's title, but a new dynasty. They're so young, and they have, wait for it--"the best player on the planet"! I do not buy it.

Kobe hasn't taken any kind of big step. He's always been an elite player, he's always had the capacity to score acrobatic shots. The main difference in his game is the Lakers' robbery of an All-Star bigman with high IQ who fits their offense to a "T".

By the same token, although they beat us 4-1, it could _easily_ have been 3-2 with a couple bounces of the ball. If Manu had been healthy, we would have pulled at least even with this team. He is our money-time player and our most important scorer, our most unstoppable weapon.

Maybe I'm a hater, but this Laker team did not invent good basketball, they haven't won anything, and beating a depleted Spurs team, while nothing to sneeze at, is hardly worth the gushing it has stimulated.

gospursgojas
05-31-2008, 09:43 AM
It's funny. On the radio and even around here, people are conceding the Lakers not only this year's title, but a new dynasty. They're so young, and they have, wait for it--"the best player on the planet"! I do not buy it.

Kobe hasn't taken any kind of big step. He's always been an elite player, he's always had the capacity to score acrobatic shots. The main difference in his game is the Lakers' robbery of an All-Star bigman with high IQ who fits their offense to a "T".

By the same token, although they beat us 4-1, it could _easily_ have been 3-2 with a couple bounces of the ball. If Manu had been healthy, we would have pulled at least even with this team. He is our money-time player and our most important scorer, our most unstoppable weapon.

Maybe I'm a hater, but this Laker team did not invent good basketball, they haven't won anything, and beating a depleted Spurs team, while nothing to sneeze at, is hardly worth the gushing it has stimulated.

They will be good for the next few years, that's true. And it is bc they have the best player on the planet. What I can't stand is the "AND THEY GET A HEALTHY ANDREW BYNUM BACK!" comments.... Dude had a couple of really good games right before he got injured and now he's the next Tim Duncan.

wildbill2u
05-31-2008, 09:45 AM
Although you're not going to stay bitter all the offseason, the first 24 hours I was a little sad. I am distressed. I understand that you can not win every year, but yes... I feel angry inside to see the Lakers in the finals knowing that we could be. Basically because I believe that this time is different from the other two eliminations that I played in the NBA.

I said that I felt responsible and I am very sure of that, because I could not give everything that I know I can give.

If the best players from a team are not playing well and are not healthy, it is very difficult to win a series so hard and evenly matched. You can adjust against rivals with less power, but not in an instance like this. One can have a bad game, but not an entire series. I feel that the team and I were surprised I was not able to respond.

I didn't use it as an excuse before, and not what I'm going to do now that we were eliminated, but many ask me about the ankle injury, so I am answering them. That started before the playoffs, when I was without playing some games. Then I injured it in the second clash against Phoenix. In some games I felt better and others worse. Sometimes, although it was bad, as in the third game against the Lakers, it was disguised because I shot 5 of 7 triples that game.

It was not painful injury, or unbearable, but one that limited me in several movements and I couldn't change the speed, rhythms or go up high once past my defender; for all basketball players this is very important. Despite this, I could have shot better and also could have made better decisions, that I have no doubts.

But coming to the end of the West, ultimately, it was a series very even. One can stay with the 4-1 or see that three matches defining the series ended by small things. One with a triple that did not fall, another with a foul that occurs or not. We didn't play brilliantly but always fought, and we made great efforts were always there. In less than 48 hours after winning a game 7 durísimo with New Orleans, we get 20 points ahead of the Lakers. And I repeat, if we had played well, we wouldn't have lost.

How will the team next season, still do not know. It is very rare to keep 100% of a roster the same as last year. Surely the leaders will have a long winter to see possibilities and add some fresh pair of legs. But sometimes what someone offers you does not match what one seeks.

Looking at the [Olympic] Games as far as the injury goes, if I say that I am not a bit worried them up. I reckon that is not going to pass anything. Just now I had an injection and told me that in two weeks everything should be fine. I want to reach the concentration hundred percent, so that the Games do not end up suffering.

Although its already been a few days, I want to congratulate the entire roster of Liberty for having won the league. I really very happy and in the context of past columns had no chance to greet them. I was really very happy, so thanks! And since I am speaking of the League let me say that I disagree with the rule of adding a third foreigner. It was something that was tested earlier and did not yield results.
[At this point Manu goes off into some esoteric points about Argentine football so I'm not smoothing out the translation until he gets back to the NBA.]
I do not think that clubs achieve lower costs, as if taking a quota of 2, hired 5 or 6 per year (including spare parts), logic says that with 3 using quotas will finish between 7 and 9. The Americans good and worth known as the national good and acquaintances, and those are the ones who are not changed. With the expensive tickets, chips, commissions, etc.., Will spend more than before and above, not only leaving 16 players to work more but with less possibility of developing national players, who have a kind of compromise who often do not give foreigners. If they want to lower the budget, with intelligence, can agree and say: "Until we got here. More than that does not pay". But as the leaders do not have unity of approach and call for respecting agreements, depend on someone put a rule well. A pity. [end of my non-translation]

Well ... nothing else. The NBA season is finished and I still haven't shaved because I did not have time, but in a few more days I'll end the [bearded] playoff look and move into the offseason cooler. When we return, I'll be in touch.

[Some espressions don't translate exactly word for word, but this is the sense of his article with nuances I picked up. Hope this helps]
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Emanuel20
05-31-2008, 09:49 AM
They will be good for the next few years, that's true. And it is bc they have the best player on the planet. What I can't stand is the "AND THEY GET A HEALTHY ANDREW BYNUM BACK!" comments.... Dude had a couple of really good games right before he got injured and now he's the next Tim Duncan.

Lol, here I have heard everything from the lakers are unstoppable, the best team, and Bynum is better than Timmy. People are making too much fuss about the Lakers and is pissing me off.

Idiotic!

Don Quixote
05-31-2008, 09:51 AM
unstable -- you mean "unstoppable"? :)

Bynum has the potential to become very good. But he's not Timmy. The Lakers are, however, already very good.

Emanuel20
05-31-2008, 09:51 AM
unstable -- you mean "unstoppable"? :)

Bynum has the potential to become very good. But he's not Timmy. The Lakers are, however, already very good.

Yeah, that's what I meant.
Thank you!

Allanon
05-31-2008, 09:53 AM
Manu sounds pretty depressed about his performance if I'm reading the Google translation right. He BELIEVED.

I do believe the Spurs and the Lakers were the 2 best teams this year but even without Manu injured, the Spurs would still have run out of gas. It's hard to win a series when you get virtually nothing from the bench.


They will be good for the next few years, that's true. And it is bc they have the best player on the planet. What I can't stand is the "AND THEY GET A HEALTHY ANDREW BYNUM BACK!" comments.... Dude had a couple of really good games right before he got injured and now he's the next Tim Duncan.

Bynum was actually consistently good since October. He didn't get much press because he was the backup center at the time. It wasn't until Kwame Brown got injured in December that Bynum started getting good minutes...and he delivered.

If he actually got 35-40 minutes a game, he would be posting 20-25 points games, 12-15 rebounds with a couple of blocks.

Before Bynum was injured he was #1 in Field Goal percentage, Top 10 in rebounds and Top 10 in blocks. And the Lakers were #1 in the West.

The Lakers have a good chance at winning the Championship this year with just Pau. Having a healthy Bynum back would be like adding another All-Star level player to a Championship team. Bynum was probably a Top 3 Center in the NBA behind Yao and DHo (Duncan being a PF)

Not as good as Timmy but not bad for a 20 year old.

1Parker1
05-31-2008, 10:24 AM
It's funny. On the radio and even around here, people are conceding the Lakers not only this year's title, but a new dynasty. They're so young, and they have, wait for it--"the best player on the planet"! I do not buy it.

Kobe hasn't taken any kind of big step. He's always been an elite player, he's always had the capacity to score acrobatic shots. The main difference in his game is the Lakers' robbery of an All-Star bigman with high IQ who fits their offense to a "T".

By the same token, although they beat us 4-1, it could _easily_ have been 3-2 with a couple bounces of the ball. If Manu had been healthy, we would have pulled at least even with this team. He is our money-time player and our most important scorer, our most unstoppable weapon.

Maybe I'm a hater, but this Laker team did not invent good basketball, they haven't won anything, and beating a depleted Spurs team, while nothing to sneeze at, is hardly worth the gushing it has stimulated.

:lol Sorry I think you're being more of a hater. Lakers are going to have a very, very big and atheletic front line next year, the likes of which the league hasn't seen in years; Gasol, Bynum, Odom + arguably the best player in the league + an experienced PG + an energetic young bench who can hit the 3 ball + a HOF coach with possibly soon to be 10 rings.

Don't kid yourself, Lakers are going to be tough in the next couple of years. I'm not saying the Spurs don't have a chance against them or that they are unbeatable, but to downplay their potential and even the team they had this season is kind of silly.

Even if we had a healthy Ginobili, Spurs had way too many other problems this series for you to say that it could have been 3-2, Spurs could have won, etc.

td4mvp21
05-31-2008, 10:31 AM
I wish Ginobili wouldn't play in the Olympics, that's only going to make him more tired and worn out....

porscha
05-31-2008, 10:36 AM
Re: Manu: "The team missed me and I wasn't there to help"

manu manu you are wrong...you were always there and always will be.

thank you and please be happy.

T Park
05-31-2008, 10:43 AM
Where is the gaurantee that Bynum comes back healthy?

Hes had trouble with the same knee for about 4 years now. This is surgery number 2 or 3 also.

While the Lakers will be good, you have to see if guys like Vujacic and others will keep playing at such a level after getting their big contracts.



Laker fan, I respect your posts, you've been very objective and fair, but if you think a healthy Ginobili, who would've averaged about 18 to 20 wouldn't have made a difference, then I don't know what to tell you.

Allanon
05-31-2008, 10:54 AM
Where is the gaurantee that Bynum comes back healthy?

Hes had trouble with the same knee for about 4 years now. This is surgery number 2 or 3 also.

While the Lakers will be good, you have to see if guys like Vujacic and others will keep playing at such a level after getting their big contracts.



Laker fan, I respect your posts, you've been very objective and fair, but if you think a healthy Ginobili, who would've averaged about 18 to 20 wouldn't have made a difference, then I don't know what to tell you.

It's true nobody knows about Bynum's knee but as far as I know, it's his first knee surgery ever. He didn't have the really serious one microfracture...from what little I understand, it was minor surgery to smooth the bottom of his kneecap. I'm cautiously optimistic and can't wait for the start of next season to see.

If he bounces back (which 70-80% chance he doesl) he will be a force to be reckoned with.

Healthy Manu would have made a difference in the number of games (4-1), but I don't think he would have changed the final outcome. The Spurs 3rd/4th quarter problems have been apparent through the season. But of course, that's debateable and understandable if you think he could have won the series.

And yes, even though we often don't see eye to eye, I respect your opinion as well.

SequSpur
05-31-2008, 10:58 AM
no mi porta

Typhoon
05-31-2008, 11:09 AM
no mi porta

enano puto

OldSilentHill
05-31-2008, 11:12 AM
I don´t agree with Manu.

He was there and he putted his gas and spirit. He just couldn´t help us all he wanted and all we need it.

Typhoon
05-31-2008, 11:20 AM
LOL dude called him a midget whore

Sequ is a whore, so whats new.

Anti.Hero
05-31-2008, 01:39 PM
Manu not showing up cost them their legacy.

Borosai
05-31-2008, 02:45 PM
Manu played well in one game, and the Spurs won. Manu played well below average in the other 4, and the Spurs lost. His performances made a huge difference, and if he had played just a bit better in games 1, 4 and 5, the Spurs probably win. Of course, others could've stepped up their game to compensate, but that didn't happen either. It wasn't just one thing, but losing usually leads to good changes, so we'll see what happens this summer.

angelbelow
05-31-2008, 02:58 PM
It's true nobody knows about Bynum's knee but as far as I know, it's his first knee surgery ever. He didn't have the really serious one microfracture...from what little I understand, it was minor surgery to smooth the bottom of his kneecap. I'm cautiously optimistic and can't wait for the start of next season to see.

If he bounces back (which 70-80% chance he doesl) he will be a force to be reckoned with.

Healthy Manu would have made a difference in the number of games (4-1), but I don't think he would have changed the final outcome. The Spurs 3rd/4th quarter problems have been apparent through the season. But of course, that's debateable and understandable if you think he could have won the series.

And yes, even though we often don't see eye to eye, I respect your opinion as well.

i respect your analysis, but as a spurs fan im going to have to disagree. manu is our closer to games, as we saw in the suns series, some in the hornets, and previous years, manu raises his game in the clutch. his uncanny ability to drive increases to an elite level. all of those potential game tying/over the hump attempts would have gone in 50% of the time but from i saw, he missed every fucking one of those. if manu was healthy, i think we would have pulled out game 1, 4, and maybe even 5 (at least 1 of those forsure). i do agree that your bench out played ours the entire way, and i do want to say that the lakers deserved their victorys because the spurs had there chances.

as for this article, i couldnt respect manu anymore, for taking responsibility. thats a man right there. initially were all pissed about his performance, but the man was injured and we have to live and die by our superstars. lets not forget all the great memories hes provided us. GL in the Olympics manu and we'll see you next year!

Avitus1
05-31-2008, 03:58 PM
Poor Manu.. better luck next time... Cant wait to see him in Black and White next year.

tlongII
05-31-2008, 04:12 PM
So Manu was too hurt to help. What is Tony Parker's excuse?

WalterBenitez
05-31-2008, 04:49 PM
So Manu was too hurt to help. What is Tony Parker's excuse?

Eva is so demanding my friend, what else :lol

NZ Spurs
05-31-2008, 06:11 PM
The Spurs (read: Tim Duncan) beat a team with a front line of Wallace, Wallace & McDyce so they sure as hell can beat a team with Gasol and Bynum.

ducks
05-31-2008, 07:13 PM
Eva is so demanding my friend, what else :lol

tp was not the reason spurs lost
get over it
rebounds and manu
manu usually helps with the rebounding
bad breaks and some miss calls
NOT TP

ManuTim_best of Fwiendz
05-31-2008, 07:30 PM
I disagree with Manu, he's just trying to take responsibility like a winner.
Bench was the reason, and it finally caught up with us.
In a best case scenario, Manu could have won us some games in the series, but the
Injuries are part of the game. Others have to step up in Manu's place (or whether it be Tim or Tony's points). Manu still grabbed rebounds, made plays etc. and while he could have still played smarter, we only got one guy to do that in the latter half of the series and that was Barry. (No Udoka, No Oberto, No Finley, No Horry) You at least need one or two more to step up as well.

Spurs have to be more versatile again, where we can't be exploited for our reliance on the big three's offense. That was almost our doom in the New Orleans series. This year our offense had to compensate for the offense of five players. :bang

But whatever it's good to hear Manu will be healed up sooner than later.
And it's cool how he's matured as a competitor from two years ago, he's still pissed, but his expectations and pressure to win it every year aren't too high, where he'll become depressed about it.

kuato
06-03-2008, 12:29 AM
It is Manu´s fault only ? , i dont see anybody talking about the two spurs MVP, TP and TD , what about them ?

ducks
06-03-2008, 12:31 AM
It is Manu´s fault only ? , i dont see anybody talking about the two spurs MVP, TP and TD , what about them ?

what about them
spurs big three needed to score 60-70
manu only scored double digits one game out of 5:bang:bang:bang:bang:bang:bang:bang:bang:bang:ban g

greens
06-03-2008, 07:31 PM
what about them
spurs big three needed to score 60-70
manu only scored double digits one game out of 5:bang:bang:bang:bang:bang:bang:bang:bang:bang:ban g



Aren't you tired of posting on every single Manu thread, with the same thing over and over? "It was Manu's fault...blah blah blah...TP was amazing. Not TP's fault at all." :sleep

Lake_show
06-03-2008, 07:33 PM
Manu has more excuses than a man going to jail.

nfg3
06-03-2008, 11:25 PM
They will be good for the next few years, that's true. And it is bc they have the best player on the planet. What I can't stand is the "AND THEY GET A HEALTHY ANDREW BYNUM BACK!" comments.... Dude had a couple of really good games right before he got injured and now he's the next Tim Duncan.

Really! But he now has had 2 knee operations and he is only 20. I remember when he got injured he was starting to play really well. The prognosis was for him to be out for 8 weeks and come back by the time the playoffs started IIRC. But then it got delayed and now he is rehabing for next year. Frankly I don't wish him any harm but there is a cloud hanging over him with those knee injuries. How he handles it and if he can regain his confidence is a question only he can answer. We'll see what happens next year but the second coming of TD? I don't think I will ever see that. But if it does happen I hope he is wearing the Silver and Black. :)

DazedAndConfused
06-03-2008, 11:52 PM
Really! But he now has had 2 knee operations and he is only 20. I remember when he got injured he was starting to play really well. The prognosis was for him to be out for 8 weeks and come back by the time the playoffs started IIRC. But then it got delayed and now he is rehabing for next year. Frankly I don't wish him any harm but there is a cloud hanging over him with those knee injuries. How he handles it and if he can regain his confidence is a question only he can answer. We'll see what happens next year but the second coming of TD? I don't think I will ever see that. But if it does happen I hope he is wearing the Silver and Black. :)

He doesn't ever need to become anything close to TD for the Lakers to be dominant. If he can give what he was giving right before he went down that is all the Lakers will ever need from him.

Top flight rebounder
Great shot blocker
High FG% (He was leading the league at the time)
Good hands
Finish around the rim
Clean up missed shots, garbage man

That's it. They Lakers don't need anything else from Bynum to be a great team.

jcrod
06-04-2008, 02:20 AM
:lol Sorry I think you're being more of a hater. Lakers are going to have a very, very big and atheletic front line next year, the likes of which the league hasn't seen in years; Gasol, Bynum, Odom + arguably the best player in the league + an experienced PG + an energetic young bench who can hit the 3 ball + a HOF coach with possibly soon to be 10 rings.

Don't kid yourself, Lakers are going to be tough in the next couple of years. I'm not saying the Spurs don't have a chance against them or that they are unbeatable, but to downplay their potential and even the team they had this season is kind of silly.

Even if we had a healthy Ginobili, Spurs had way too many other problems this series for you to say that it could have been 3-2, Spurs could have won, etc.

+1

Lakers will be scary good next yr. Gasol will have a yr under his belt and Bynum will only make them better. People he's only 20 and getting better.

1Parker1
06-04-2008, 02:25 AM
That being said, it's good to see that Gasol is still soft as Charmin. :tu :lol

Lake_show
06-04-2008, 02:37 AM
That being said, it's good to see that Gasol is still soft as Charmin. :tu :lol

Whats sad is your so called best player faked an injury to get bailed out of his shitty WCF performance against a new dynasty.

1Parker1
06-04-2008, 02:49 AM
Whats sad is your so called best player faked an injury to get bailed out of his shitty WCF performance against a new dynasty.

Yea, and Bynum faked an injury so that the Lakers could get Gasol and it wouldn't look so shady that they didn't have to give him up in the trade. :rolleyes

Manu Ginosebleed
06-04-2008, 02:51 AM
It's ok guys! Manu will heal up in the offseason and will stop the bleeding! :smokin

koriwhat
06-04-2008, 01:51 PM
My rough Spanish translation (based on 4 years of Spanish back in HS so take it for what it's worth) :lol:

Before we embark on our summer vacations, these last 24 hours have made me a little sad mood. I'm depressed. I know that you cannot win it every year, but yes, we believed we could have beaten the Lakers and they are not that much better a team than us. Fundamentally, I believe that this elimination has been different than any other elimination that I've lived through in the NBA. Because I believe it was my fault, that I couldn't/didn't do, everything I know that I could do.

what happened the last time ginobili took the blame for an early playoff exit? :lobt2: