Network Administrator

[Man Sauce]

Has anyone been to school for this and is currently working in this field? If so what school did you go to? I am thinking about going to St. Philips for this since I already have a degree I am not interested in pursuing one just certification. I have no experience whatsoever just looking to get a better paying job since I am fed up with what I am doing now. Thanks.

[mouse]

http://www.educationcenteronline.org/IT-Training/Network-Administration.html



http://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&channel=s&hl=en&q=Network+Administrator+school+online&btnG=Google+Search

[DannyT]

http://cis.sac.accd.edu/

I am in the process of enrolling at SAC and getting my certs for networking...check it out and go talk to them

[mouse]

I wish I knew how to make websites! My sister is paying 700.00 on her cheesy site as we speak. and if you go to Craig's list there are tons of folks who want web sites made.

It's Funny I started to advertise on Craig's list two months ago and I started to put my phone number on the topic line now everyone is doing it. Go to the computer service section and go 3 pages deep no one is using their phone number then I do it and they all chimed in. :lmao

[u2sarajevo]

I went to UT.

I have been in the industry for over 10 years now(CCIE, CCNA, MCSE, CNE(as if that matters anymore)). It is good to be diverse... but to be honest Microsoft will be where the bread and butter is on the server side. Cisco on the Networking (routers, switches - core , aggregate and edge). I know Linux but I can count the number of times I've had to use that knowledge on one hand (well..... I sometimes use knoppix for it's networking tools.... but that doesn't really require Linux "skills"). Not saying don't learn it... I just would think twice before making that a high priority. Get started and don't ever stop learning (because once you do the industry will pass you by).

[Chief]

I went to SAC for Computer NetWorking, one of the better programs out there, definately look into it .

(sac = san antonio college) just to be sure :D

[mouse]

Then how come when someone posts "I need a website made" none of you chime in?

:wakeup

[u2sarajevo]

Then how come when someone posts "I need a website made" none of you chime in?

:wakeupAlthough I could do it.... I'm not a developer at heart. I work on infrastructure, not building websites. I will script with Powershell/VBS/Perl, etc.... but that is solely to make the mundane tasks of my job easy.

[Man Sauce]

I went to SAC for Computer NetWorking, one of the better programs out there, definately look into it .

(sac = san antonio college) just to be sure :D

Did you get a certificate or a degree?

[marini martini]

I have no experience whatsoever just looking to get a better paying job since I am fed up with what I am doing now. Thanks.

Are you thinking about taking over ST???

I'm tellin'!......................................KORI !!!!!!!!:lol

[Man Sauce]

Are you thinking about taking over ST???

I'm tellin'!......................................KORI !!!!!!!!:lol

Probably j/k just looking to make a career change.

[mouse]

Although I could do it.... I'm not a developer at heart. I work on infrastructure, not building websites. I will script with Powershell/VBS/Perl, etc.... but that is solely to make the mundane tasks of my job easy.


That was a good answer. I wasn't trying to be a smart ass I was just curious why you wouldn't want to make some money on the side.:toast

I wanted to ask you a question if you don't mind. Do you know anyone with a A+ certification and how did they get it. like on line? or did they have to pay, (any shortcuts?)

I downloaded this A+ certification it was like 4 DVDs it took almost a month. (well i had like 20 different sexploitation movies also) :smokin

anyway I forgot to put it on a HD when I flushed out my PC to sell to AngelLuv. But does the A+ really matter?
thanks!

:wakeup

[marini martini]

Mouse, I can't believe with all your talent, you can't set up websites, for fun & profit!!!

[velik_m]

Setting up sites is easy. HTML and PHP is all you need to know. Or you can just use CMS like Drupal, Wordpress, Joomla...

[DannyT]

Then how come when someone posts "I need a website made" none of you chime in?

:wakeup

honestly dude all them certs he listed dont really mean that you can build a web page...but I just didnt get why he listed the CCNA cert when he has the CCIE...once you have the CCIE you have networking in the palm of your hands...

[DannyT]

Did you get a certificate or a degree?

now they have a degree program that they were trying to steer me in...but I was like nah man I just need the cert classes so that when I am done I can go to a testing center and pass the shit...but they have both the degree route and the certs route. so they have me talking to the instructor to make sure I am "qualified" to just take the course and not have to go through all the A+ and network+ shit...so we will see and if I get in next week I will let you know

[mouse]

Mouse, I can't believe with all your talent, you can't set up websites, for fun & profit!!!

Have you seen my apartment? In order to do a site you must have your shit together first. You really want to pay me to run your site? :lol


http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p55/RackTheMouse/RTM-3/IMAG0102.jpg

[mouse]

Setting up sites is easy. HTML and PHP is all you need to know. Or you can just use CMS like Drupal, Wordpress, Joomla...

Hey I downloaded Monster template and some program called easy website 123 I was wondering is the secret in knowing the codes?

I have yet to use any of the software I am to busy removing spyware from laptops, and reading the topics here @ ST :lmao

[DannyT]

Have you seen my apartment? In order to do a site you must have your shit together first. You really want to pay me to run your site? :lol


http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p55/RackTheMouse/RTM-3/IMAG0102.jpg

fucked up thing is I was just at dudes pad tonight it still looks just like that...matter a fact them same movies was sitting on the table...

[mouse]

That was you? I thought you was CID! :lmao

DannyT did come by tonight I showed him a Purple heart I got back in Namm
but he did not see the obvious...........


http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p55/RackTheMouse/RTM-3/blind-assholes.jpg

[Slomo]

You want to be a sysadmin? well start here:

http://bofh.ntk.net/Bastard_Indexes.html

and then continue here (start at the bottom):

http://www.theregister.co.uk/odds/bofh/

If don't find that funny, you might not be geeky enough for this line of work...

:p:

[u2sarajevo]

mouse - Any certification will matter. Of course it would depend on the job you are looking for. A+ cert would indicate competency for a support role. Although I use cert tracks for keeping my knowledge not only up to date but top of mind, the fact that you can place those achievements on your resume will add relevancy to your positioning in the hiring process.

danny - I listed CCNA generally because that is a starting point for someone starting out in the industry and it's a highly recognized cert. And yes, following the same mold I should have listed MCP/CNA but did not(but generally I agree with you about listing certs that are implied by others).

[to21]

I'm a Systems Administrator..........I went to school........I make good money........it sucks.

Thanks Career Point!!!

[Man Sauce]

Did you reallly go to career point?

[Man Sauce]

now they have a degree program that they were trying to steer me in...but I was like nah man I just need the cert classes so that when I am done I can go to a testing center and pass the shit...but they have both the degree route and the certs route. so they have me talking to the instructor to make sure I am "qualified" to just take the course and not have to go through all the A+ and network+ shit...so we will see and if I get in next week I will let you know

Sorry I about the late response how are the classes are they held during the day or do they have evening classes as well?

[tlongII]

All of that stuff will be outsourced to India pretty soon.

[blizz]

Since you already have a degree..you have that part covered. You don't need to go to school for this stuff....if you're disciplined at all and can teach yourself....get the books, build a server, learn it on your own and take the tests. It really is that simple, now whether it's simple for you to do it is another story. Also, once you get proficient with the server software, specialize in something, ie.; MSSQL, Exchange, Active Directory etc etc. Concentrate on getting an MCP first...it's an easy cert to get but don't cheat yourself and take just any test to get it, take a 2003 test. Then go from there. BTW, if you want a good starting point...study for and take the N+.

Mouse - A+ is worthless unless you're going to be dealing with hardware a la a repair shop. I wouldn't even count on an A+ to get you a support role.

[blizz]

All of that stuff will be outsourced to India pretty soon.

No, not all of it.

[u2sarajevo]

regardless of what blizz says A+ is not worthless mouse. I personally wouldn't waste time on it but it is a requirement for laptop/desktop techs at my place of employment.

[leemajors]

No, not all of it.

there's quite a bit of consumer backlash about it, true. I know a few companies that have cut out some of their outsourcing.

[DannyT]

Sorry I about the late response how are the classes are they held during the day or do they have evening classes as well?

actually the class I was going to take next week at SAC for networking got canceled because of the lack students in the class...So I signed up for the Jul class...I just hope this doesnt become a habbit

[blizz]

I'm guessing the desktop/laptop techs do repair and troubleshooting....if so....


regardless of what blizz says A+ is not worthless mouse. I personally wouldn't waste time on it but it is a requirement for laptop/desktop techs at my place of employment.



Mouse - A+ is worthless unless you're going to be dealing with hardware a la a repair shop. I wouldn't even count on an A+ to get you a support role.

A+ is an entry level exam for people wanting to do repairs, upgrades, troubleshooting etc.....and as U2 said, some places may require it, however...it's been MY experience that it's worthless...or it has been for me anyways.

[blizz]

actually the class I was going to take next week at SAC for networking got canceled because of the lack students in the class...So I signed up for the Jul class...I just hope this doesnt become a habbit
How much are you paying? Buy the Network+ book, get a couple of computers, install server on one and teach yourself. It's really not that hard to get the basics. Once you have concepts down the rest makes sense and is easier.

[Heath Ledger]

I can consult on website creation/development, reccomend good scripts/solutions etc.

[Man Sauce]

Since you already have a degree..you have that part covered. You don't need to go to school for this stuff....if you're disciplined at all and can teach yourself....get the books, build a server, learn it on your own and take the tests. It really is that simple, now whether it's simple for you to do it is another story. Also, once you get proficient with the server software, specialize in something, ie.; MSSQL, Exchange, Active Directory etc etc. Concentrate on getting an MCP first...it's an easy cert to get but don't cheat yourself and take just any test to get it, take a 2003 test. Then go from there. BTW, if you want a good starting point...study for and take the N+.

Mouse - A+ is worthless unless you're going to be dealing with hardware a la a repair shop. I wouldn't even count on an A+ to get you a support role.

I get what you are saying but the ony problem is I am one of those that just can't strictly learn from a book. I need some kind of interaction with an instructor to accompany it. I will go check out some books this week just to get a feel for it so I don't go in blind any suggestions.

[Man Sauce]

actually the class I was going to take next week at SAC for networking got canceled because of the lack students in the class...So I signed up for the Jul class...I just hope this doesnt become a habbit

That sucks I hope there is still enough interest in the subject. By the way I just saw a posting at my job for a network administrator damn I need to hurry decent pay to.

[DannyT]

i dont think its the lack of interest as much as it is that its at SAC. I think if I were to have tried to take the courses anywhere else like UTSA or what not that the course would have gone on as scheduled but because its SAC not many people go there for IT. I am kind of fine with less student in the class so that way we can kind of drive the class in the direction we need to go in, but if they drop my next class in July because of the lack of students then I have no choice but to go some where else, so what are you leaning towards doing

[mouse]

Mouse - A+ is worthless unless you're going to be dealing with hardware a la a repair shop. I wouldn't even count on an A+ to get you a support role.

Thanks for the heads up!

I do know one thing, I run into at least one person a day who wants a website built! That seems to be where the Juice is right now.
Face it 10 years from now most people will know already how to make websites and laptops will be 200.00 each and people will rather buy new ones instead of fixing them like the VCRs, Looks like I will have to go back to being a waiter.

:wakeup

[mouse]

Hey DannyT what is the update on your friends LVN status did she find a job?

I had no idea people with an LVN certificate would not have hospitals knocking on your door. Every time i look in the paper they need LVNs.

any updates?

[DannyT]

yeah shes getting hassled because she lacks the year of expierence of being an LVN. Its like none of the Hospitals want to hire her because of that. She ended up settling for an nursing home spot down the street from the house so its cool for now. any one else had this trouble before

[mouse]

So you can't get an LVN job w/o LVN experience but you can't get LVN experience w/o and LVN job?

[DannyT]

and you need an LVN license on top of that

[Man Sauce]

Thanks for all the comments and links guys. I went to Palo Alto and St. Philips today. I will probably hit up SAC within the next week. I am confused on what program to sign up for either the microsoft or cisco. Now Palo Alto offer only the cisco while St. Philips offers both. The Palo Alto program agrees with my work schedule and the advisor was very thorough while at St. Philips they don't have a schedule out yet but they have a real nice facility. The one at St. Philips said there was a lot more hands-on. Both advisors were very helpful and nice. So I have a decision to make any suggestions would be appreciated. I am maybe leaning towards the microsoft certification and see how it turns out and then for sure getting cisco certified.

[CosmicCowboy]

All of that stuff will be outsourced to India pretty soon.

No shit. This girl called me this afternoon trying to sell an ad on some fucking internet yellow pages. Her Indian accent was so strong I could barely understand her, but her name was "Tiffany"...go figure. I told her "Tiffany, your job must really suck...you need to go to trade school and learn how to be a network administrator"

Then I hung up.

[DannyT]

good luck man...if sac drops the course again on me I am going to have to check out another campus....also dont forget about Northwest Vista...I heard they have a program out there as well

[Man Sauce]

good luck man...if sac drops the course again on me I am going to have to check out another campus....also dont forget about Northwest Vista...I heard they have a program out there as well
Yeah Northwest Vista does have one but its a bit to far for me Palo Alto is the closest to me but the classes are offered at Kelly and St. Philps would be about the same as Kelly.