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peewee's lovechild
06-05-2008, 11:11 AM
Here are a few reviews of early screenings of the movie.

There are some big, BIG spoilers, so read them at your own peril.

I've gone from a "meh" attitude towards the film, to an "I have to see it" attitude.

Check it out:

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/36974



Multiple Reader Reviews for THE INCREDIBLE HULK!!!


Hey folks, Harry here... I know I'm a crazed geek that can't be trusted... but here's the responses we've gotten thus far from our screening as well as other screenings. Enjoy...

Did he really change into the Hulk? That question asked by Harry's nephew during the Q & A after the screening of THE INCREDIBLE HULK tonight in Austin sums it up pretty well for me. If you can make a child truly believe that a human character has transformed into this huge green superhero, then I think you've accomplished what you set out to do.

I was instilled with a love of comics as a young child. My older brother was an avid comic reader and I would read the ones he'd let me. In the Marvel universe, I loved Iron Man and The Incredible Hulk. There were others, but those were the 2 that I remember most vividly. As I watched this movie unfold on the screen in front of me, I was mesmerized.

Tim Roth being cast as Blonsky is pure genius. He is such a fantastic villain. From the very first sneer, I couldn't wait for more of him. I actually think he was a more believable villain that Jeff Bridges was in Iron Man and I thought Iron Man was about as close to perfection as you can get with a superhero movie. I was afraid going into this movie that the CGI would take me out of the movie, but it never did. The cinematography and CGI were beautifully shot. I loved the Hulk as much in this movie as I did in the comic books.

Ed Norton was incredible as Bruce Banner. But the Hulk? The Hulk truly came to life for me for the first time on film. I liked Ang Lee's Hulk, but it wasn't the Hulk that I fell in love with as a child. This Hulk is. As I watched him in the kick-ass fight with Abomination toward the end of the film, I had tears well up in my eyes. The massive power of the Hulk being compelled to protect the woman he loves and the inner turmoil showing in his eyes was magnificent to behold. That moment when he realized that he could control his inner beast and not become truly evil like Abomination made the entire movie for me and it took me back to my childhood.

There are so many small moments in this film that made the audience clap and/or laugh. It helped break the tension and was so well done. From the glimpse of Bill Bixby to the Lou Ferigno cameo to the misuse of a word in Spanish to the lighter moments between Betty and Bruce Banner, all of them added to my enjoyment of this film.

Is it as wonderful as Iron Man? No, but it is still a pretty damn good superhero film that continues to give me hope for the future Marvel films in the works. It's a fun action-packed thrill ride that will make you believe that Bruce Banner really does change into the Hulk when he's angry. I can't wait to see this one again on opening weekend with my friends and family. They're going to love it!

CheriBomb


Then The Human Burrito saw the film at our screening tonight:

Hey Harry and Co:

I just got back from a screening of The Incredible Hulk, hitting
theatres at some point this month-I think next Friday? For anyone who
was skeptical, excited, or doubtful, I'd like to throw in my 2 cents.

Spoilers below, beware beware beware.

No, seriously. I spoil it all. Why are you even reading THIS if you
don't want to know?

If you didn't like Iron Man, you should probably stay away from this
one-don't worry, I'm sure that X3, The Punisher, AVP, Ghost Rider, and
the theatrical cut of Daredevil are all still available at WalMart.
Maybe those are right up your alley.

It doesn't matter, really, what your opinion of Ang Lee's Hulk was
when considering seeing this flick. Hated his Hulk? You'll find that
this one is much more suited to your expectations of Hulk. Loved his
Hulk? You'll be pleased to see that it still has real actors carrying
the weight and is full of that jolly green giant you love so much.

What about the confusion over whether it's a sequel, a remake, a
reboot, what have you? It's none of the above and all of the above,
really. Yes, the origin is a bit different (as shown briefly over the
opening credits, watch for the Nick Fury and Stark Industries
references!), but it fits the general origin summary of Hulk's
origins-and then the movie picks up in South America where Dr Banner
is seeking a cure for his condition, right where Ang Lee's Hulk ended.
So, take your pick. Consider this a continuation with a hint of
retconning, or consider it a completely new timeline.

For fans of the classic TV series, it's stuffed with references-for
someone who is actually a fan of the show, I'm sure there are a ton
that I didn't catch.

Like Iron Man, Hulk picks up steam with an early action sequence and
keeps moving, and thankfully never stretches to make a joke-here's
hoping "You wouldn't like me when I'm hungry!" becomes geek chic. The
first big action sequence, a botched takedown of Banner by Emil
Blonsky and crew, demonstrates exactly why Hulk has such broad
appeal:he's neither hero, nor villain. When he Hulks out, there is
collateral damage, and anyone in Hulk's way is FUCKED. He's not
intentionally malicious or fighting for some greater good-he just
wants to be left alone. Hulk really is a creature that is merely what
you choose to perceive him to be.

Really, let's not even worry about the thin plot, the point of
anything Hulk is SMASH!, and there's plenty of it for you. The movie
only pauses to take a breath when Betty and Banner are reunited, but
it's quickly time to hit the road and avoid anything that will let
them be tracked-reminiscent of bits of The Terminator, I felt. Each
Hulk out gets bigger and more destructive-another military attempt to
capture the Hulk only results in having their Humvees picked up and
banged into each other like a child with cymbals, and the lengthy
battle with The Abomination is brutally violent. Despite the lack of
bloodshed, I'm a bit surprised at how much gruesome monster on fugly
monster civilian collateral damage they squeezed into a PG13 rating.

Of course our hero prevails in the end, and in proper sequel set up
escapes to be chased another day...

Let's talk about the fun little geeky bits, starting with said
sequel(s)! No shortage of setups here, from a lingering shot in a lab
sequence, to the apprehension of the Abomination, to Dr Banner's
continued search for a cure/control, and of course.....the big one:

Did you think that Nick Fury's cameo was cool in Iron Man, did it give
you that nerdy tingly rush of "they're really setting it up!"? Tony
Stark makes a brief appearance at the end of Hulk and takes that setup
one step further...."We're putting together a team." Geekasm!

The music. Hulk fans already know what I'm talking about.

Great cameos by Lou Ferrigno, playing a security guard (again!) and
providing the Hulk's voice (yes, we DO finally get to hear "Hulk
smash!"); and by Stan Lee, who haplessly clues General Ross in to Dr
Banner's whereabouts.

The only real complaint/curiosity I have is with Liv Tyler. When she
gets cast in movies, does her agent have to find roles that fit her
speech mannerisms, or do they rewrite it for her? Has anyone else
noticed that she ALWAYS sounds out of breath and can't seem to push
out more than a handful of syllables in one go?

In short, the geekiest comparison I can make is to Star Trek:consider
Ang Lee's Hulk to be Star Trek:The Motion Picture, a long drawn out
effects heavy cerebral film clearly crafted with a fetishistic love;
and consider The Incredible Hulk to be The Wrath Of Khan:shorter,
faster, pure ass kicking all the way through. Neither one requires the
previous film be seen, or any deep familiarity with the franchise.

Seriously, pay for this one. Don't pirate it. It's on par with
Marvel's best efforts.

-The Human Burrito!


Then there's this review from New York:

I just got back from a preview screening of Incredible Hulk here in New York.

And, well...

...it was great!

A spoiler-free mini-review follows - but if you want to remain completely unaware, you can probably skip on by.

But that's a qualified 'great'. Incredible Hulk does exactly what it says on the can. If you've seen the trailers, you know the plot - Bruce Banner is on the run; he gets found; hilarity and smashing ensues.

The thing is, I still loved it. This was the Hulk movie that should have been made five years ago - action packed, not so ponderous and surprisingly funny.

Yes, funny. From Banner's awkward Portugese, to an unexpected side-effect to him getting excited, it was a funny movie - and I think that's why it works. Ed Norton is great, selling the desperation of a man who's trying to live his life as best he can while controlling the beast inside - and the last shot of him is killer. Liv Tyler is...well, I'm not a fan but she's okay, I guess - sadly, she's no Jennifer Connelly but who is?

Then there's new Thunderbolt Ross, William Hurt. It's funny but I had a hard time seeing the actor behind the mustache and contacts, and I think that's great - like Iron Man's Jeff Bridges, he inhabits the role completely.

The real surprise for me was Tim Roth - he's not been this good for years and he's great as special forces soldier Emil Blonsky, even if his character does get lost a bit towards the end and he does look a bit like Harry Potter's Dobby at one point. There's one sequence in particular that has me drooling at the prospect of Marvel's upcoming Captain America movie.

There is an inevitable elephant in the room, and it's the CGI - yes, the Hulk looks CGi-y but short of painting a man green I'm not sure how you're going to get away from that. The thing is, the CGI doesn't really distract on the whole - there are a few shots where you kind of get pulled out of the movie, but not too many.

Nice touches abound; watch out for the names of two college students who capture the green goliath on their cameraphone, a familiar name or two in the opening credits (and not of actors), a Stan Lee cameo that actually furthers the plot, a familiar theme, a TV show that Banner watches, the real project that Banner was working on when he was turned into the Hulk, what turns Blonsky into a - er - super-soldier, a familiar logo in a computer system a great cameo from Lou Ferrigno - and, yes, a scene at the end of the movie that's been confirmed for a while which features a certain billionaire inventor. In the cut I saw, it was before the credits but I'm not sure if it'll stay that way.

On the directing front, Transporter's Louis Leterrier does a good job. The three set-piece action sequences are fluid without being choppy, and he gets that sometimes less is more. The first of these sequences, in a factory, reminds me a little of a sequence in Predator 2 only without Gary Busey chewing the scenery. A barely-seen Hulk makes mince meat of an army team, striking from the shadows.

There were a few bits and bobs from the trailers that didn't make the cut I saw; for example, the psychiatrist's role is trimmed down and he goes nameless in the movie (I think) which I guess leaves the door open for another Doc Samson down the road.

There were also a few weird cuts which I suspect were made for rating reasons - Hulk and Blonsky's confrontation on the grass is abruptly cut, and Blonsky's final transformation feels like it's missing a few seconds. I'm hoping there's a chance to re-edit this for the DVD because I suspect it's too late for the movie's release.

And I haven't even mentioned the surprising bit (to me, at least) - namely the identity of Mr Blue and the set up for the another character, which I loved.

The Incredible Hulk is a fun summer movie; just don't expect too many twists and turns. Like I said, it does exactly what it says on the can.

rjl1138


Then there's this review from a screening abroad. Enjoy...

Dear AICN,

It’s been 3 years since my last confession. It’s not that anything hasn’t grabbed me. I saw KUNG FU PANDA back in March (Capone is right, it is all that, and then some, highly recommended), the brilliant IRON MAN (with unfinished effects) some time early April (if DeLorean on my desk would be big enough for me to fit in and working properly, one of my first destinations would be 2010 to see the next one Favreau and 2008 Man Of The Year Downey will be serving us then) and PRINCE CASPIAN (Andrew Adamson, you’re taking the franchise in the right direction), the magnificent pot ad PINEAPPLE EXPRESS (good weed indeed!) a long time ago, but I never wrote, just thinking that there are plenty of people in your ranks who can do this much better.
But I wanted to write about my biggest surprise of the year so far, THE INCREDIBLE HULK. I wasn’t afraid of the film, I just had near zero expectations. Shrek’s steroid-loving brother, directed by the guy who directed all the painfully boring non-action bits in Transporter movies and Danny the Dog (aka Unleashed on that side of the pond). With all due respect, mr. Ferrigno (and his intimidating physique) and lovable and brilliant Ang Lee, James Schamus and Eric Bana, there was nothing in Hulk’s past that made me look forward to this film. In fact, after Ang Lee’s Greek tragedy with that DUI guy from The Deep as Hulk’s evil dad, the whole idea of another Hulk movie seemed as good as PG-13 Die Hard or Terminator from the director of Charlie’s Angels…
I was, however, always intrigued, how did they get Jack’s Bleeding Ulcer to star in it. Therefore I was hoping that there might be something in there after all. And boy, was there. Marvel should have done this a long time ago, starting doing justice to their own heroes. Because Iron Man and this is two for glowing two so far. Hell, after seeing this I hope that Marvel will some day find non-retarded writer(s) to give us a good, cool, kick-ass Elektra movie that the character deserves (I love you, Jen Garner, it wasn’t your fault, but the film was, well, abomination, no pun intended. OK, actually feeble attempt at pun detected, so … me). It is a very good hero story, a fresh start that makes you look forward to next meeting with this guy whom you'd best keep in a good mood.;

Now, if you don’t mind, I will just be throwing random little bits of praise in deserving directions. Norton – inspired choice, tortured soul, you really root for Banner (especially in a scene, where his rapidly rising pulse… ok, you’ll see). Excellent opening credits bring those in who have zero knowledge of the green guy. And the great action scene in Brazil sets the tone perfectly, going the Alien/ Jaws less-is-more route you don’t see that often these days. Tim Roth as Emil Blonsky is a determined fearless bad-ass, a relentless pitbull who simply won’t stop. When asked why he doesn’t get out of the trenches, the guy says: I’m a fighter, I’ll be one as long as I can. If I could take what I know today and put it into the body I had 10 years ago, that’d be someone I wouldn’t want to fight. To which gen.Ross kindly answers: I could arrange something like that (that is not a spoiler, you’ve seen the guy getting huge needles stuck into him since the first trailer). By the way, I would have never guessed, but William Hurt as Gen. Ross is much cooler than mighty man-god Sam Luck_The_Fakers_Luck_The_Fakers_Luck_The_Fakers_Lu ck_The_Fakers_Luck_The_Fakers_Luck_The_Fakers_ was in Ang Lee’s version. Again, goes to show that there was nothing in 2003 movie that this one doesn’t do better.
Almost forgot, Stan Lee’s cameo is by far the best the man has done so far (lightyears from the slightly embarrassing mailman in Fantastic 4 or the impatient pedestrian in Daredevil, to name a few), surpassing even his fake-Hef moment in Iron Man. And the final scene, that sends you out with a really broad smile on your face, guaranteed. The same goes for the mighty monster punch up in the finale that has to be seen, I won’t even try to describe this. (I bet Bay is paying close attention and taking notes so that next Summer geeks wouldn’t say after his next robot orgy: well, sadly not as good as Hulk vs. Abomination showdown. It is good and most importantly, it gives Hulk an actual purpose, he’s not just a big green blunt instrument throwing tanks (apologies go out to all die hard Hulk fans, but that has been my impression on the guy so far), the man’s got so much at stake. Thank you Zak Penn, Norton, Marvel guys and, who knew?, Louis Leterrier! Pardon for doubting you could pull this off, Monsieur.

With this as good as it is and Wanted, Hellboy and Dark Knight all coming up, looking mighty shiny, this is indeed turning into a really good Summer. Despite the fact that there’s a new Rob Schneider movie lurking somewhere on the horizon.

Pleasure, as always, when the subject is movies,
Dashing Don Lockwood


And that's what I have so far! Sounds like people are loving it!

peewee's lovechild
06-05-2008, 11:14 AM
A review by Harry Knowles:

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/36973

OH HELL YEAH!

You know… Ever since I was a wee lad, I’ve dreamt of a Cinematic Marvel Universe. I think we all have. Tonight, after the screening of THE INCREDIBLE HULK – an audience member asked a question about the concern about continuity with the comic universe – and Kevin Feige went into an answer that referred to “THE CINEMATIC MARVEL UNIVERSE” – and I think I came a little.

After IRON MAN – we began to feel what was happening – but the early trailers for HULK… just didn’t look promising. However, we’ve begun to have some cool scenes popping up online – and the latest trailers have a lot of fun going on in them. But as our audience dove into this latest Marvel tale… You could feel the room getting giddy.

Once again we had solid actors as Banner, Neil and Ross. Betty was beautiful – and then they throw Tim Blake Nelson in. You’ve got to love this new Marvel Universe that has begun. Actors like Robert Downey Jr, Jeff Bridges, Ed Norton, William Hurt, Tim Roth, Sam Jackson and Tim Blake Nelson.

I know you folks loved IRON MAN – I’m right there. I fucking loved it. This is an INCREDIBLE HULK movie to love too. Watching these last two MARVEL films… where Marvel is actually controlling the vertical and the horizontal. Where executive decisions are being made by people whose profession is COMICS and COMIC MOVIES. I can’t fucking tell you how amazing it is to actually… literally… see the Marvel Universe on screen.

And it is much more evident here, than even in IRON MAN.

It’s not just SHIELD or a Tony Stark cameo. Those are the big obvious ones. And you know that the Super-Soldier formula is used here to give Blonsky his first boost… but here’s the geekiest part. The canister that they pull that vial of interesting liquid from… the Doctor’s name is Dr. Reinstein…. Yes, the actual name of the scientist that injected Steve Rogers with the Super Soldier serum… now the key is… they didn’t expose Blonsky to the Vita-Rays which would super-charge that serum and give him that extra boost that made Captain America that extra bit of badass. But, we’ll see that in an upcoming movie, I’m sure.

Here we have a film with characters named Dr. Samson and Samuel Sterns. And we know about their eventuality. And the nods to the past… they’re here too. What’s great is that we don’t just get the Stan Lee cameo, but the Lou Ferrigno and even… Bill Bixby. You’ll see. All this stuff – it’s just little side things. The film doesn’t STOP for these footnotes – and if you’re not a Marvel freak… it’d scream by without a notice.

But as a MARVEL fan – holy shit… they’re doing it. They’re actually fucking doing it. For the first time in our lives as crazy geeky fanboys… the MARVEL UNIVERSE is moving at 24 frames a second in a theater near us.

What about SPIDER-MAN?

Well – SPIDER-MAN did a good job of establishing the SPIDER-MAN UNIVERSE – you never saw Spidey at the Baxter building? Matt Murdoch didn’t walk by. It stayed within the Spidey-specific universe.

Here… shit. Robert Downey Jr… TONY STARK in a Paramount Distributed film called IRON MAN. Yeah. Check. But Robert Downey Jr… as TONY STARK… in a UNIVERSAL distributed film… See, it isn’t hard. You just do it. You just care enough to say… YES, Iron Man can be in a HULK movie… just not quite suited up yet. And yes, that feels fucking awesome.

BUT wait a minute. How does this work as a HULK movie?

One of the attendees of the screening tonight in Austin sent in a review – and they did a comparison that simply… I must reference because it is very accurate. They compared Ang Lee’s HULK to Robert Wise’s STAR TREK: THE MOTION PICTURE. Both films were beautiful, artful and cinematic tellings of prime geek material… HOWEVER – both films failed to move mainstream audiences. They did work for a segment of the audience – but there was a lack of forward momentum. They just didn’t quite GO at the speed that fans hoped for.

Well THE INCREDIBLE HULK – is very much like the re-invention that happened to STAR TREK on STAR TREK II: THE WRATH OF KHAN. Now – I love THE INCREDIBLE HULK, but it isn’t quite STAR TREK II great – but it’s outstanding.

Louis Leterrier has made a HULK movie that first and foremost is badass, kickass and asskicking, but is most certainly not ASS.

THE INCREDIBLE HULK has the call backs to the TV show, in fact… by the end of the film, I think Bruce might even be going by David… At least I think so. I like that Bruce is a character that has been LIVING with this curse/gift. That he’s taken steps to try to handle his problem. And that is very much the Bill Bixby tone of the character. He’s pro-active in trying to CURE himself… but the film isn’t merely a regurgitation of the TV show – it binds the TV show and the Comic into this third universe of Cinema.

Now, I know I’ve been talking a lot about this Cinematic Marvel Universe – but I’ll tell you. I love, love, love – that in THE INCREDIBLE HULK… there’s science fiction weaponry. The Sonic Cannons are OUT-FUCKING-STANDING! The design is goofy and awesome as though Jack Kirby drew them. It’s big and clunky and mounted on the back of an armored vehicle… and that’s AWESOME! And they send waves of power that knock the living shit out of the HULK. And this shit came from Stark Industries. YES!

I love that SHIELD is a scary Big Brother organization that’s monitoring all of our fucking emails. How great is that? Now – if only we’ll get the Helicarrier… and Dum Dum Dugan! And jet packs and skin-tight mission suits – and evil HYDRA and AIM.

These films are on a collision course. They’re building on one another – and Marvel has a supreme chance here to do something that we’ve never seen in cinema… just as they did in Comics. And that’s to create a coherent fantasy Universe across titles, releases and distribution companies.

And if tonight’s audience was any judge… We’re fucking ready, willing and there. I’m dying … dying to see the next 3 years play out with them. Will we see an additional HULK film before the AVENGERS? That will only depend on how this one does. And man… if the tease for THE LEADER is any indication… and fucking Tim Blake Nelson as THE LEADER … well, it’s not David Niven… but it’s fucking Tim Blake Nelson – and that would mean Giant Robots and Humanoids and more awesome scientific funnery. And that’s where we need to go with THE HULK.

Man – I never thought I’d see the day that Marvel would actually get their shit, totally together. This is the sort of thing we’ve been screaming for – and now its actually fucking happening and … man, there should be fucking FIREWORKS and tickertape for this sort of momentous occasion. We should be running in the streets and screaming about how we don’t have Universal Healthcare, we don’t have 10% of Arizona covered with Pond Scum Farms creating Bio-Fuel at 35 cents a gallon… but Goddammit… MARVEL is seriously creating a cohesive MARVEL UNIVERSE. There are signs of a bright future.

Right? We’re gonna be ok. But man… if the entire financial reality collapses and we don’t get to see the AVENGERS movie that we’re building towards… Then GOD… make my clothes hit the ground and take me to Heaven… where this future AVENGERS is on a fucking loop. I can’t Wait! But I must. We’ll all wait… And as THOR comes out and kicks our asses… and IRON MAN 2 whipping up on our asses… Then that fucking period CAPTAIN AMERICA film – which will end with him waking up in the modern world… or floating in that general direction… and being discovered! Well… if those movies continue firing on the same cylinders of these last two… our collective excitement will be really unreasonably friggin high… and there will be those joyless fucks that are pissing on the foreplay these films represent, but ya know what… I don’t know about you – but I’m seeing cheering audiences… and tonight I saw my nephew laying on the floor in front of the guests tonight shaking his hand with the most awesome question that a 7 year old could muster…

“Did that man really turn into the HULK?”

And god damn it – that’s what this is all about. For kids to dream and ask big fucking important questions… Because when you see a man strapped to a lab table and you hear his bones snapping and muscles bursting bigger… and you see the pain on the actor’s face and it hurts… it hurts… to that boy’s eyes… that wasn’t Ed Norton and that wasn’t CG. He was invested enough that he ran from the bathroom, didn’t tell his mom where he was… got in trouble, but he asked the question. “Did that man really turn into the Hulk?”

There’s only one answer. “Yes, that’s why Ed Norton couldn’t be here tonight… it’s too dangerous for the audience!”

Yes. That’s why Ed Norton wasn’t there tonight. And that’s awesome!

spurs_fan_in_exile
06-05-2008, 11:42 AM
Well, I had to skip most of this post, but I've been psyched about this one for a while. I've been walking the tight rope of trying to find out info on the film without getting too many spoilers, but just about every new piece of info I'd find got me that much more excited. And the clips they've leaked onto the net are looking bad ass.

I'm hoping this movie is as good as I believe it can be and not just for my sake. She's going to have to deal with a raging case of Hulk dorkdom next weekend.

ETA: If you're ever in need of a good laugh go by the IMDB boards for the Hulk movie and TDK. I swear the fanboys for those two movies make Manu vs. Tony look like a Harvard debate match.

BacktoBasics
06-05-2008, 12:03 PM
I want to see Ang Lee's Hulk and the new one side by side for comparison. I just feel better about the newer version...seems less cartoonish but again I'd have to see it side by side.

spurs_fan_in_exile
06-05-2008, 12:11 PM
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Here you go B2B. They went with a darker shade of green for the new one and made his skin all ripped, so he looks a lot more detailed. For me what really sets the two apart are seeing them in motion. The 2003 Hulk just seemed to be stumbling around drunk compared to the new one.

BacktoBasics
06-05-2008, 12:18 PM
I'm gonna have to wait and see the new one and see how the motion plays out. Tough call because there seems to be some proportion differences between the two.

peewee's lovechild
06-05-2008, 01:14 PM
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Here you go B2B. They went with a darker shade of green for the new one and made his skin all ripped, so he looks a lot more detailed. For me what really sets the two apart are seeing them in motion. The 2003 Hulk just seemed to be stumbling around drunk compared to the new one.

I think the lighting is the biggest differences between the two. The new Hulk movie seems to have darker filters throughout, as opposed the the brightness throughout Lee's attempt.

If I'm not mistaken, ILM worked on this Hulk as well. So, I don't think the difference is going to be huge. I could be mistaken, though.

I agree with one of the reviewers from my first post. Lee's movie was very character driven and cereberal. Using the trailers for the new Hulk as perspective, they seem to be going a lot more towards action and mayhem.

I really appreciated Lee's film, but I think this new one has a chance to be something special, especially with the Avengers stuff going on in it.

peewee's lovechild
06-05-2008, 01:16 PM
I still don't get how Banner's pants still fit the Hulk.

If he really does get that big, Hulk should be running around in the buff.

Not that I want to see his junk, it's just that I can't see pants expanding that much at the waist without tearing apart.

E20
06-05-2008, 01:24 PM
The Hulk movie should be good, because:

A) Ed Norton is Bruce Banner
B) They actually have him fighting a villian (The Abomination) rather than the fucking USA army and jumping from canyon to canyon which was boring.

E20
06-05-2008, 01:25 PM
I still don't get how Banner's pants still fit the Hulk.

If he really does get that big, Hulk should be running around in the buff.

Not that I want to see his junk, it's just that I can't see pants expanding that much at the waist without tearing apart.
I think that is explained in the Marvel Handbook somewhere. LOL

spurs_fan_in_exile
06-05-2008, 01:27 PM
I think the lighting is the biggest differences between the two. The new Hulk movie seems to have darker filters throughout, as opposed the the brightness throughout Lee's attempt.

True that. Lee's color palette was aimed to give it a more comic book feel I think, this one seems a little more real world feel to it. It was one of those stylistic choices in the 2003 version that just didn't work for me. The serious, realistic tone they tried to set with the film didn't fit with the visuals.

peewee's lovechild
06-05-2008, 01:29 PM
The serious, realistic tone they tried to set with the film didn't fit with the visuals.

I agree with that.

It was the kind of film that if Lee had a couple of years to work on it, it would've been amazing.

Still, I appreciated it.

Let's see how the new one is going to work out.

I'm actually getting excited about it.

mardigan
06-05-2008, 01:34 PM
http://www.marvel.com/news/moviestories.3705

The pic where he is standing across from Liv tyler shows how much better the hulk will look in this one.

leemajors
06-05-2008, 02:19 PM
Well, I had to skip most of this post, but I've been psyched about this one for a while.

Harry shouldn't be allowed to write more than one paragraph, it's unintelligible. I am looking forward to seeing this, even if it sucks - I have low expectations!

JoeChalupa
06-05-2008, 02:59 PM
Meh, I wasn't impressed with the first one at all. I'll wait for the DVD and maybe, maybe see it.

E20
06-05-2008, 03:05 PM
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Holy shit the article got pwn3d by misspelling eliott

monosylab1k
06-05-2008, 03:14 PM
Sorry but this movie still sounds lame as hell IMO. I've gotten almost completely burnt out on comic book movies altogether. Lucky for me there's only going to be like 19 of them made in the next 2 years.

cornbread
06-05-2008, 03:14 PM
Hell yeah! I can't wait.

ballhog
06-05-2008, 05:37 PM
I still don't get how Banner's pants still fit the Hulk.

If he really does get that big, Hulk should be running around in the buff.

Not that I want to see his junk, it's just that I can't see pants expanding that much at the waist without tearing apart.

The Hulk in porno. There's a thought.

pawe
06-06-2008, 02:07 AM
Shagia is creaming in his pants right now.

pawe
06-06-2008, 02:14 AM
RDJ in a cameo in the Hulk movie, wow that's badass. Its like weaving these little episodes and having a final result of the characters combined in one big movie.. all action and none of the origins since its been all shown in their respected movies. I hope this becomes a trend in the comic book to movie business. HULK, Ironman, Thor, Cap, all leading to the Avengers movie.

peewee's lovechild
06-06-2008, 07:18 AM
HULK, Ironman, Thor, Cap, all leading to the Avengers movie.


Yes, that's what Marvel is planning on.

Thor and Cap are in pre-production right now. They just need to settle on a lead for both movies. The rumor for a while was that Matthew McConeghey(sp?) was going to play Cap, but the producers shot down that rumor.

But, all that is going to lead to an Avengers movie.

leemajors
06-06-2008, 08:03 AM
god that would be a horrible choice for cap.

The sone
06-06-2008, 08:53 AM
mcconeghey for cap would be abysmal! i just cant see captain america standing against a wall, one foot cocked up muttering "alright alright alright..."

peewee's lovechild
06-06-2008, 09:03 AM
It was a rumor on the interwebs.

The producers have shot down that rumor.

The sone
06-06-2008, 09:13 AM
It was a rumor on the interwebs.

The producers have shot down that rumor.

"thats what i like about the interwebs...i get older, they stay the same age..."

ace3g
06-08-2008, 08:45 PM
if you weren't going to see this movie before, you better go see it now

http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=RSIq1uiMLo0

dickface
06-08-2008, 08:59 PM
if you weren't going to see this movie before, you better go see it now

http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=RSIq1uiMLo0

Well now they've given away the one reason to go see this movie. It looks like a piece of shit and now we've seen the RDJ cameo. Great job.

This movie will fail miserably - guaranteed.

N.Y. Johnny
06-08-2008, 09:02 PM
they rooned it.

Trainwreck2100
06-08-2008, 09:32 PM
Hopefully that wasnt the only cameo, they didn't show Samuel L. Jackson in the tv spots for Iron Man. I hulkbuster would be cool.

lefty
06-09-2008, 12:16 AM
http://gothamist.com/images/2003_6_hulkreflects.jpghttp://screenrant.com/images/the-incredible-hulk-trailer.jpg
Here you go B2B. They went with a darker shade of green for the new one and made his skin all ripped, so he looks a lot more detailed. For me what really sets the two apart are seeing them in motion. The 2003 Hulk just seemed to be stumbling around drunk compared to the new one.

Damn!

Who is Edward Norton's trainer ?

spurs_fan_in_exile
06-09-2008, 12:26 AM
Damn!

Who is Edward Norton's trainer ?

I don't know, but I heard he used to work at BALCO.

lefty
06-09-2008, 12:31 AM
I don't know, but I heard he used to work at BALCO.

:p:

mardigan
06-13-2008, 05:13 PM
Just saw it. Really entertaining, lots of action and the Hulk looks so much better in this film. There is a little love shit mixed in between Norton and Tyler, but both of them do a pretty good job of making it watchable. The action is awesome though, and there is a lot throughout the film. I actually enjoyed it more than Iron Man, which I loved.

spurs_fan_in_exile
06-13-2008, 08:24 PM
Just saw it. Really entertaining, lots of action and the Hulk looks so much better in this film. There is a little love shit mixed in between Norton and Tyler, but both of them do a pretty good job of making it watchable. The action is awesome though, and there is a lot throughout the film. I actually enjoyed it more than Iron Man, which I loved.

That's the measuring stick I'm seeing in most of the reviews and it seems to be fairing pretty well against it. Me and the wife are going to see it tomorrow, and despite my best efforts I'm starting to expect something pretty good.

Trainwreck2100
06-13-2008, 09:36 PM
That's the measuring stick I'm seeing in most of the reviews and it seems to be fairing pretty well against it. Me and the wife are going to see it tomorrow, and despite my best efforts I'm starting to expect something pretty good.


Aren't you happy you saw the Happening instead of this today?

Anti.Hero
06-14-2008, 08:11 AM
It was pretty good. It was great if you compare it to most marvel films.

Finally Marvel films are worth seeing.

J.T.
06-14-2008, 08:25 AM
Sorry but this movie still sounds lame as hell IMO. I've gotten almost completely burnt out on comic book movies altogether. Lucky for me there's only going to be like 19 of them made in the next 2 years.

Eh, the comic movies were good until they started getting sequels. The only real good thing to come out of all the comic book movies is Three Boy Names as a blond

http://www.flash-screen.com/free-wallpaper/uploads/200705/thus/1179154124.jpg

Brutalis
06-14-2008, 08:28 AM
Failed. Just like Iron Man. Typical Marvel bullshit. Gay ass story line. Easy to predict what happens next. The Hulk in love? Stupid.

They need to leave the comic books alone. Tired of these bullshit ass waste of time and money movies. Don't know why I even saw this dumb shit, I could have seen ZOHAN.

Brutalis
06-14-2008, 08:30 AM
I will admit it was better than every single Marvel movie made prior. Iron Man being 2nd best.

But I will not be buying them until they hit 7.95 in two years at Wal-Mart.

resistanze
06-14-2008, 08:47 AM
Decent movie. Destroyed that abomination of a Hulk movie released in '04.

Cant_Be_Faded
06-14-2008, 09:04 AM
jesus christ peewee you are such a douche

mardigan
06-14-2008, 02:00 PM
Failed. Just like Iron Man. Typical Marvel bullshit. Gay ass story line. Easy to predict what happens next. The Hulk in love? Stupid.

They need to leave the comic books alone. Tired of these bullshit ass waste of time and money movies. Don't know why I even saw this dumb shit, I could have seen ZOHAN.

Zohan sucks ass.

And besides, Ross was the only one who could ever calm the Hulk down in the comics, and they were in love. Maybe comic movies just arent for you.

Mister Sinister
06-14-2008, 02:05 PM
Shagia is creaming in his pants right now.
Dude, I think I just filled the cup.

leemajors
06-14-2008, 03:46 PM
Zohan sucks ass.

And besides, Ross was the only one who could ever calm the Hulk down in the comics, and they were in love. Maybe comic movies just arent for you.

zohan was hilarious at points, some of the stuff in it was easily as funny as stuff in Billy Madison and Happy Gilmore. They could have trimmed 20 minutes out though.

spurs_fan_in_exile
06-14-2008, 06:06 PM
Saw it today and loved it. Not surprisingly, it was a lot like Iron Man, so if you liked it (which I did) you'd do well to go see this. Lots of little nods and jokes to people familiar with the source material (particularly the TV show), but still accessible to anyone. Good performances from Norton, Roth, and Hurt, and I was surprised by Liv Tyler. I'm usually not a fan but she did well here. I thought the CGI was pretty good. Some spots looked better than others, but overall they did a good job of breathing life into the Hulk, and really conveying emotion. The Abomination in particular was very well done.

I'll readily admit that I'm a big Hulk fan and my expectations have been steadily creeping up the last few weeks, and this one met them. I'd go see it again in a heartbeat.

Anti.Hero
06-15-2008, 01:06 PM
Hulk smash was badass! The dude who played Abomination was a perfect pick. He was not cheesy AT ALL like 99% of comic movie villians so far.


If you loved comics as a kid these recent movies are a good sign. So far so good as far as the Avengers movies are lining up to be imfo.

I am praying Punisher and Wolverine movies will be good, although after X3 and Spidey3 I have little hope!

ATRAIN
06-16-2008, 08:26 AM
I enjoyed this movie way more than the ang lee crap pile. I did have low expectations so I came out happy.

Southwest Texas Fan
06-16-2008, 10:17 AM
Saw the movie last night and I liked it. It was better than the first one and the Hulk finally had a nemisis. I recommend it.

ATRAIN
06-16-2008, 10:20 AM
I did like the little transformation of "The Leader"

spurs_fan_in_exile
06-16-2008, 12:01 PM
I did like the little transformation of "The Leader"

That was a nice touch. Anyone else think Tim Blake Nelson totally stole the show? He was a scene stealer in "Oh Brother Where Art Though?" and he did it again here. He totally nailed the twitchy, off kilter personality of some college science professors I've seen.

ATRAIN
06-16-2008, 12:06 PM
That was a nice touch. Anyone else think Tim Blake Nelson totally stole the show? He was a scene stealer in "Oh Brother Where Art Though?" and he did it again here. He totally nailed the twitchy, off kilter personality of some college science professors I've seen.

Yeah he did a kick ass job.

ballhog
06-16-2008, 07:04 PM
That was a nice touch. Anyone else think Tim Blake Nelson totally stole the show? He was a scene stealer in "Oh Brother Where Art Though?" and he did it again here. He totally nailed the twitchy, off kilter personality of some college science professors I've seen.

I wondered where I'd seen him before. He was funny as hell. Overall, thought the movie was well done. Additionally, thought it was a tad loud at times.

Avitus1
06-16-2008, 07:22 PM
Tim Blake Nelson did a great job and as soon as I saw him I was like "Oh shit they worked The Leader into the film?" or at least I thought it. It was a great movie and fun to see the Hulk fight it out with an actual villain. I cant wait for the next Hulk movie but I want to see the Avengers movie even more...

leemajors
06-17-2008, 09:02 AM
I liked the hulk.

peewee's lovechild
06-23-2008, 08:37 AM
I saw the movie this weekend.

I have to say that it was a lot better than I would've imagined. It was fucking great.

I thought the humor in it was just right, and the Ferigno/Lee cameos were pretty cool. There was great acting by all, but I really was impressed by Liv Tyler. She was perfect for the role. I've never seen her act this good. Her chemistry with Norton was right on and, dare I say it . . . . I thought she did a better job than Jennifer Connelly.

The one beef I had was with William Hurt. I think he's one of THE most overrated actors. I hate his delivery and it's like he acts knowing there's a camera near him. It showed in this movie. Maybe I was spoiled by Sam Elliott, but Hurt had a very sub-par performance.

But, all in all, it was a very good movie. It was definitely much better than the previous venture. The CG was also better this time around, though I had issues with the Abomination. I even liked the way they worked in The Leader.

Although I hope them make a sequel, the last scene with Tony Stark and Gen. Ross makes me want an Avengers movie right fucking now.

peewee's lovechild
06-23-2008, 08:38 AM
By the way, I missed the Bill Bixby and Capt. America cameos.

Weren't they supposed to be in the movie?
Did I just not see it?

O-Factor
06-23-2008, 09:23 AM
I saw the movie this weekend.

I have to say that it was a lot better than I would've imagined. It was fucking great.

I thought the humor in it was just right, and the Ferigno/Lee cameos were pretty cool. There was great acting by all, but I really was impressed by Liv Tyler. She was perfect for the role. I've never seen her act this good. Her chemistry with Norton was right on and, dare I say it . . . . I thought she did a better job than Jennifer Connelly.

The one beef I had was with William Hurt. I think he's one of THE most overrated actors. I hate his delivery and it's like he acts knowing there's a camera near him. It showed in this movie. Maybe I was spoiled by Sam Elliott, but Hurt had a very sub-par performance.

But, all in all, it was a very good movie. It was definitely much better than the previous venture. The CG was also better this time around, though I had issues with the Abomination. I even liked the way they worked in The Leader.

Although I hope them make a sequel, the last scene with Tony Stark and Gen. Ross makes me want an Avengers movie right fucking now.


A couple of reviews I read before I saw the movie were bashing Liv Tyler for her performance and praising William Hurt, but I felt the exact opposite. Liv was great in the film and Hurt, well, he was just okay.

peewee's lovechild
06-23-2008, 09:27 AM
A couple of reviews I read before I saw the movie were bashing Liv Tyler for her performance and praising William Hurt, but I felt the exact opposite. Liv was great in the film and Hurt, well, he was just okay.

I thought Tyler was great.

I just don't understand why people like Hurt so much. And, I think it's hard to deny that Hurt was the weak point in The Incredible Hulk.

I wonder what SFIE really thought about Hurt's performance. Sam Elliott was perfect. I just wish they would've somehow brought him back.

CuckingFunt
06-23-2008, 09:35 AM
I saw this one yesterday and really enjoyed it.

Tim Blake Nelson is full of win. I also thought Liv Tyler was good. And quite charming. There's also enough quirk to her cuteness that I didn't have a hard time buying her as an uber nerd/cellular biologist. As for Hurt... he can be good, but when he's not he's flat out horrible. He was not good in this one.

My one nitpick, though, was the last scene -- that should have been an after-the-credits nugget for the die hards, like the scene after Iron Man.

peewee's lovechild
06-23-2008, 09:57 AM
I saw this one yesterday and really enjoyed it.

Tim Blake Nelson is full of win. I also thought Liv Tyler was good. And quite charming. There's also enough quirk to her cuteness that I didn't have a hard time buying her as an uber nerd/cellular biologist. As for Hurt... he can be good, but when he's not he's flat out horrible. He was not good in this one.

My one nitpick, though, was the last scene -- that should have been an after-the-credits nugget for the die hards, like the scene after Iron Man.

You honestly think he was good in this?

I thought he was completely flat. I didn't see any emotion in him. There was no urgency to his character.

Like I said, maybe I'm just too influenced by Sam Elliott's portrayal in the previous movie, but I just didn't like Hurt in this one.

spurs_fan_in_exile
06-23-2008, 10:02 AM
I thought Tyler was great.

I just don't understand why people like Hurt so much. And, I think it's hard to deny that Hurt was the weak point in The Incredible Hulk.

I wonder what SFIE really thought about Hurt's performance. Sam Elliott was perfect. I just wish they would've somehow brought him back.

Yeah, I wasn't in love with Hurt. I intended to come back and write a slightly more detailed review, most of which said almost exactly the points. I really was impressed with Liv Tyler, particularly the chemistry with Norton. You got the feeling not just that they loved each other, but why as well. When I heard this was going to be a faster paced, more action filled Hulk I worried that it might come with some sacrifice to this relationship. Thankfully that didn't happen.

As for Hurt, I generally like the guy, but I didn't like him here. As you said, Elliott was better, but I think it was more the way the character was written here as much as anything. I would say it was the one place where Lee's version outshined this one. They went a little too Captain Ahab with him. I could buy his obsession with stopping Banner and the Hulk, but I was never able to really buy into him as a battle hardened general. Just not enough of a commanding presence, literally. And Elliott is a three time selection to the SAG All Grizzled team, so it was a tough act to follow.

And I'm glad to see a few people are with me on Tim Blake Nelson. I dropped by IMDB and he was getting ripped a new one there.

The more I think about it I seriously think I'm going to go see this again some time soon.

peewee's lovechild
06-23-2008, 10:09 AM
Yeah, I wasn't in love with Hurt. I intended to come back and write a slightly more detailed review, most of which said almost exactly the points. I really was impressed with Liv Tyler, particularly the chemistry with Norton. You got the feeling not just that they loved each other, but why as well. When I heard this was going to be a faster paced, more action filled Hulk I worried that it might come with some sacrifice to this relationship. Thankfully that didn't happen.

As for Hurt, I generally like the guy, but I didn't like him here. As you said, Elliott was better, but I think it was more the way the character was written here as much as anything. I would say it was the one place where Lee's version outshined this one. They went a little too Captain Ahab with him. I could buy his obsession with stopping Banner and the Hulk, but I was never able to really buy into him as a battle hardened general. Just not enough of a commanding presence, literally. And Elliott is a three time selection to the SAG All Grizzled team, so it was a tough act to follow.

And I'm glad to see a few people are with me on Tim Blake Nelson. I dropped by IMDB and he was getting ripped a new one there.

The more I think about it I seriously think I'm going to go see this again some time soon.

The Tyler-Norton connection was perfect. The sense of deep love and affection for each other grounded the film. It made the characters more "real", if you will.

I agree with what you said about Hurt not looking like a "battle hardened general". I think that's part of the reason why I really didn't like him. But, Elliott had the sense of urgency in NEEDING to stop the Hulk that Hurt just didn't portray.

As for Tim Blake Nelson . . . I really liked him. But, I think the problem people are probably having is the way his character is brought into the story. The Leader is supposed to be a janitor that was working in the lab where Banner was doing his expirements. He was exposed to some of the gamma rays that made Banner become the Hulk.

Come to think of it, it may have been kind of cheesy to have him become The Leader by having Banner's blood fall into a cut in his head. I'm okay with it, but I can see how this might have pissed off others.

I still liked him in the movie, though.

Overall, this movie exceeded my expectations.

MateoNeygro
06-23-2008, 02:53 PM
Failed. Just like Iron Man. Typical Marvel bullshit. Gay ass story line. Easy to predict what happens next. The Hulk in love? Stupid.

They need to leave the comic books alone. Tired of these bullshit ass waste of time and money movies. Don't know why I even saw this dumb shit, I could have seen ZOHAN.


Kill Yourself, Hulk was the shit i liked it better than iron man. Zohan?? seriously??

CuckingFunt
06-23-2008, 05:18 PM
He was not good in this one.


You honestly think he was good in this?

No.

peewee's lovechild
06-24-2008, 07:04 AM
No.

:lol

I missread the post.

Nego
06-24-2008, 10:58 AM
I also thought this movie was pretty damn good...I'd recommend it to friends..

As for Sam Elliott or William Hurt??...of course I'd take "Conagher" over Hurt... heck they can bring him back as the General anytime they want... I think that maybe they just wanted a clean break from Ang Lee's horrible version...

MannyIsGod
09-25-2008, 02:51 AM
Finally saw it. I approve.

spurs_fan_in_exile
09-25-2008, 11:39 AM
I found out the other day that it's looking like they're are only going to release the hour or so worth of cut material in the Blue Ray version, which means I need a PS3 now more than ever.

Frankie
09-25-2008, 12:27 PM
I do good impersonation.

HULK SMASH!
HHHUUUUUUUUULLLLLLLKKKKKKKKK SSSSMMMMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASSSSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Borosai
09-25-2008, 04:52 PM
I saw it recently, and I prefer Ang Lee's version: the plot was better, along with much better casting (Norton and Tyler were too whiny, for starters). However, the special effects were better in this version.

And one more thing... when will we finally see Hulk's dong? It's like he borrowed Nacho Libre's stretchy pants -- those things have to tear too, right?

lefty
09-25-2008, 06:08 PM
By the way, I missed the Bill Bixby and Capt. America cameos.

Weren't they supposed to be in the movie?
Did I just not see it?

Isn't Bixby dead?

spurs_fan_in_exile
09-25-2008, 06:16 PM
Isn't Bixby dead?

He is. There's a scene where Banner is watching an old episode of "Courtship of Eddie's Father" I think and you get a clear close up of Bixby's face.

The Cap Cameo was cut, mostly because that scene centered around Banner attempting to kill himself and the Hulk coming out to thwart him. Execs or the director or someone felt it was too dark for a summer popcorn film, IIRC.