wtf garnett

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he started the game like 8-11 at one point, and finished 9-22? wtf???

[monosylab1k]

He was choking about as bad as a guy can choke in the 2nd half. He had that one very nice dunk but that was it.

My dream is for the Celtics to win and Garnett to choke the entire time.

[DazedAndConfused]

He choked badly in the clutch again, but Mr. MVP was trying his best to out-do him.

[monosylab1k]

Between Garnett, Cassell, Rondo, Kobe, Gasol, & Odom, it looked like a competition to see who could outchoke the rest.

[dbreiden83080]

Mega Choker is KG always has been. I can't stop laughing anytime someone wants to compare him to Duncan. Duncan would have owned the 2nd half of that game, 3 finals MVP's, 99 and 03 he owned the finals, KG he just doesn't have that in him.

[JamStone]

Why is anyone surprised? That's KG. Unbelievable talent that grips in late in a close game.

I'm still a fan of KG, but he definitely doesn't have balls of steel or ice in his veins. He feels pressure.

But, I'm of the other opinion than mono. I would rather see the Lakers win and KG not choke in any of the games. I don't really want to see Paul Pierce or Doc Rivers win anything.

[JamStone]

Mega Choker is KG always has been. I can't stop laughing anytime someone wants to compare him to Duncan. Duncan would have owned the 2nd half of that game, 3 finals MVP's, 99 and 03 he owned the finals, KG he just doesn't have that in him.

Or have a 5 point, 3 rebound performance like he did in game 1 of the Hornets series...

[DazedAndConfused]

Why is anyone surprised? That's KG. Unbelievable talent that grips in late in a close game.

I'm still a fan of KG, but he definitely doesn't have balls of steel or ice in his veins. He feels pressure.

But, I'm of the other opinion than mono. I would rather see the Lakers win and KG not choke in any of the games. I don't really want to see Paul Pierce or Doc Rivers win anything.

It's alarming how many people here are rooting for the Celtics. If any team has come into this league and shown blatant disrespect for other teams it's the Celtics.

I guess they can't let go of the fact that the Lakers beat their Spurs.

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He was choking about as bad as a guy can choke in the 2nd half. He had that one very nice dunk but that was it.

My dream is for the Celtics to win and Garnett to choke the entire time.

lol im the same way. i want paul pierce to get a ring, as well as ray allen. i wish there was a way that garnett didnt get one though. but if garnett keeps choking like he has been, then its as close as it will get.

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Paul Pierce has constantly been one of the most underrated players in the league. hes 3rd behind Kobe and Lebron in the "best guard/forward" debate.

[monosylab1k]

If any team has come into this league and shown blatant disrespect for other teams it's the Celtics.

How exactly did they do that?

The Lakers showed balatant disrespect to every other team via collusion.

[JamStone]

Paul Pierce is also a bigger punk than what people claim KG to be.

Pierce is the same guy that pulled a Dwyane Wade last night. Remember several years ago in the playoffs against the Pacers, Pierce got slightly hit by Jamaal Tinsley and he went into the press conference with a bandage wrapped around his head? He also spit at the Cleveland Cavaliers bench. People rag on KG for being boastful and yelling and screaming. Pierce is the same exact way, except he doesn't do it throughout the game. He waits for the team to win and then acts like an asshole.

He's obviously a world class talent. I just don't like Paul Pierce.

[JamStone]

How exactly did they do that?

The Lakers showed balatant disrespect to every other team via collusion.

So even though the Timberwolves got a better deal, there were no hints of collusion with the KG trade?

[DazedAndConfused]

How exactly did they do that?

The Lakers showed balatant disrespect to every other team via collusion.

Hi ugly.

[dbreiden83080]

Or have a 5 point, 3 rebound performance like he did in game 1 of the Hornets series...

You know better than that, come on you are a good poster here, don't go there. You know damn well what my main point is.

[monosylab1k]

So even though the Timberwolves got a better deal, there were no hints of collusion with the KG trade?

Maybe there was (probably there was), but I don't hold it against the Celtics because they gave up something of real value. They didn't spit in the face of every other hardworking NBA GM by working to trade Garnett for absolutely nothing, the way the Lakers got Gasol.

[rAm]

Or have a 5 point, 3 rebound performance like he did in game 1 of the Hornets series...

Are you trying to make a joke?

[Gino]

The thing about Garnett is that he doesn't have to be scoring to be contributing. He does a lot of other things like rebounding, getting assists, playing defense etc.

[dbreiden83080]

Are you trying to make a joke?

Wasn't funny if he was and if he is serious it is not a relevent point at all.

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Paul Pierce is also a bigger punk than what people claim KG to be.

Pierce is the same guy that pulled a Dwyane Wade last night. Remember several years ago in the playoffs against the Pacers, Pierce got slightly hit by Jamaal Tinsley and he went into the press conference with a bandage wrapped around his head? He also spit at the Cleveland Cavaliers bench. People rag on KG for being boastful and yelling and screaming. Pierce is the same exact way, except he doesn't do it throughout the game. He waits for the team to win and then acts like an asshole.

He's obviously a world class talent. I just don't like Paul Pierce.

congratulations

[JamStone]

Are you trying to make a joke?


No, not making a joke, but not being serious either.

Point is KG is choker, but he's also the main reason why the Celtics are even in the NBA Finals.

[JamStone]

Maybe there was (probably there was), but I don't hold it against the Celtics because they gave up something of real value. They didn't spit in the face of every other hardworking NBA GM by working to trade Garnett for absolutely nothing, the way the Lakers got Gasol.

Not the Lakers fault. Memphis and Chris Wallace need to take full blame, not the Lakers. If any other team could have gotten Pau Gasol for so cheap, they would have and should have done the deal as well.

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Not the Lakers fault. Memphis and Chris Wallace need to take full blame, not the Lakers. If any other team could have gotten Pau Gasol for so cheap, they would have and should have done the deal as well.

actually other teams offered more. for instance the Mavericks offered Howard and some other things, which is far more valuable than Kwame Brown and useless pieces.

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Point is KG is choker, but he's also the main reason why the Celtics are even in the NBA Finals.

that title belongs to Paul Pierce. KG is the reason they won 66 regular season games though, if that means anything. but in the playoffs, its been all about Paul Pierce, hands down. if it wasnt for Pierce, no way in hell do they beat Cleveland for instance.

[balli]

actually other teams offered more. for instance the Mavericks offered Howard and some other things, which is far more valuable than Kwame Brown and useless pieces.

Not if you're looking to free up cap space like Memphis was.

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Not if you're looking to free up cap space like Memphis was.

And how come every thread is inevitably turning into a discourse on the Lakers either being lucky, worse than SA or conspiracy. I haven't read this thread besides the last post, but I was expecting it to be a discussion on KG's FG% not LA's collusion conspiracy.

i have no clue how that happened either. i rarely ever comment in these forums about the "conspiracy" thing though. i just said that other teams offered more in value, yet they didnt take it. and if they were only looking to free up cap space, then how come when other teams offered massive expiring contracts for Mike Miller, they suddenly wanted equal value? what sense does that make?

but im done with that for now though. back to the point. KG sucks balls. lol

[DazedAndConfused]

i have no clue how that happened either. i rarely ever comment in these forums about the "conspiracy" thing though. i just said that other teams offered more in value, yet they didnt take it. and if they were only looking to free up cap space, then how come when other teams offered massive expiring contracts for Mike Miller, they suddenly wanted equal value? what sense does that make?

but im done with that for now though. back to the point. KG sucks balls. lol

MEM tried to move Gasol last year for equal value. They didn't get any good offers and decided to hold onto him. By the trade deadline this season the Grizzlies had won something like 13 games, clearly Gasol wasn't working in MEM. Since they weren't going to get good value for him and didn't want to be burdened with more contracts, they went for a pure salary dump. You also need to understand that the owner wants to sell the team and the best way to do that is to give the new owners a team that is essentially theirs to build from the ground up, instead of one that is hampered by long term contracts.

Their owner said to their GM to get the biggest expiring you can find, some draft picks, and young talent. The Lakers had everything they needed and were willing to make the trade immediately. They were just in the right place at the right time and benefited from having exactly what MEM was looking for. Remember NOH was in this same situation a few years back when they got rid of Baron Davis for nothing. With the right GM moves the Grizzlies are capable of bouncing back and building a strong team. Unfortunately for them their current GM and owner is an idiot.

[JamStone]

that title belongs to Paul Pierce. KG is the reason they won 66 regular season games though, if that means anything. but in the playoffs, its been all about Paul Pierce, hands down. if it wasnt for Pierce, no way in hell do they beat Cleveland for instance.

Chicken and egg argument.

Without KG, Celtics aren't even in position for Pierce to take over the handful of games in the playoffs where he has.

[TDfan2007]

Watching KG in last night's game was hilarious, it was almost as if he was trying to let his team down.

But let's not be hypocrites here, Tim wasn't exactly Mr. Fourth Quarter this postseason. He layed an egg in just about every fourth quarter except for game 3 against LA and played HORRIBLY in the second half of every road game against NO.

I'm starting to think that on top of not having the balls to take and make shots in the clutch, KG is also getting worn down by then ala Tim. Both of these guys are 32 with a lot of milage on them so it makes sense that their stamina is starting to falter.

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Chicken and egg argument.

Without KG, Celtics aren't even in position for Pierce to take over the handful of games in the playoffs where he has.

fucking wrong.

if they hadn't traded Garnett, they would have had Al Jefferson, which would have been more than enough between him, paul pierce, and ray allen to get into the playoffs. and Al Jefferson IMO is more suited as a playoff style player than Garnett, as he is actually a post presence and scores down low.

[JamStone]

Pure conjecture.

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Or have a 5 point, 3 rebound performance like he did in game 1 of the Hornets series...Yeah because someone trying to get over a fever from the night before will immediately put up a triple double :rolleyes

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Pure conjecture.

just like saying without KG they would not make the playoffs.

[mattb_25]

MEM tried to move Gasol last year for equal value. They didn't get any good offers and decided to hold onto him. By the trade deadline this season the Grizzlies had won something like 13 games, clearly Gasol wasn't working in MEM. Since they weren't going to get good value for him and didn't want to be burdened with more contracts, they went for a pure salary dump. You also need to understand that the owner wants to sell the team and the best way to do that is to give the new owners a team that is essentially theirs to build from the ground up, instead of one that is hampered by long term contracts.

Their owner said to their GM to get the biggest expiring you can find, some draft picks, and young talent. The Lakers had everything they needed and were willing to make the trade immediately. They were just in the right place at the right time and benefited from having exactly what MEM was looking for. Remember NOH was in this same situation a few years back when they got rid of Baron Davis for nothing. With the right GM moves the Grizzlies are capable of bouncing back and building a strong team. Unfortunately for them their current GM and owner is an idiot.

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[JamStone]

just like saying without KG they would not make the playoffs.

More evidence to that contention, as last year's Boston Celtics team and this past season's Minnesota Timberwolves team would give better indications of that claim.

[JamStone]

Yeah because someone trying to get over a fever from the night before will immediately put up a triple double :rolleyes

No, not a triple double. But, how about more than one made field goal and more than 3 rebounds from the best power forward in the history of the game, fever or not?

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Or have a 5 point, 3 rebound performance like he did in game 1 of the Hornets series...

:lol :lol

[NBA Junkie]

I like how people are calling KG a choker in game one, yet, he did all of the intangible things in the second half to help the Celtics win.

Take, for example, that hustle play he made to avoid a backcourt violation that led to a Sam Cassell hoop and a five point lead. Big momentum changer, IMO.

[KidCongo]

I want Boston to win but still don't like Pierce. Rather him having 1 ring than Kobe winning his 4th and 1st as the man.

[Ghazi]

fucking wrong.

if they hadn't traded Garnett, they would have had Al Jefferson, which would have been more than enough between him, paul pierce, and ray allen to get into the playoffs. and Al Jefferson IMO is more suited as a playoff style player than Garnett, as he is actually a post presence and scores down low.


Kevin Garnett is one of the best defenders in the league, Al Jefferson is one of the worst defenders in the league.

They would not be in the Finals with Al Jefferson in place of Kevin Garnett, believe that.

[dickface]

Kevin Garnett is one of the best defenders in the league, Al Jefferson is one of the worst defenders in the league.

What idiot told you that, and why did you believe him?

[Ghazi]

The Twolves defense actually got 12 points per 100 possessions better when Al Jefferson went off the court. This is an alarming stat, and probably a good indicator that he is a horrible defender.

Now I didn't watch the T-Wolves often so I can't really say, but stats like that aren't flukes. The bottom line is, KG > Al, Celtics not in Finals with Al.

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More evidence to that contention, as last year's Boston Celtics team and this past season's Minnesota Timberwolves team would give better indications of that claim.

no, not really. that was proven in the Malone and Payton signings by LA the other year. everyone thought it was a dream team, and they got owned in the finals. every year is different.