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spurscenter
06-07-2008, 01:34 AM
Dubious Reed: Jackson questions Pierce’s injury

By Johnny Ludden, Yahoo! Sports

BOSTON – Having gone from Brian Scalabrine’s arms to wheelchair to scorer’s table to NBA legend in about, oh, seven minutes, Paul Pierce’s miraculous recovery continued another day. He complained his right knee was stiff and sore, said he likely wouldn’t have been able to play Friday and then, when asked to assess his chances of starting Sunday’s Game 2 of the NBA Finals, the Boston Celtics star forward didn’t hesitate with his answer.

“I think there’s a great chance I’ll play,” he said.

Some 12 hours earlier Pierce also claimed to have been touched by an angel, and that was the first sign something might be amiss.

After all, does anyone believe Michael Landon was really a Celtics fan?

More than a couple of the Los Angeles Lakers have rolled their eyes over Pierce’s dramatic performance in the Finals’ opening game, no one more than their coach. Asked about Pierce’s “Willis Reed moment,” Phil Jackson smiled.

“Well, if I’m not mistaken, I think Willis Reed missed a whole half and three quarters almost of a game and literally had to have a shot – a horse shot – three or four of them in his thigh to come back out and play,” Jackson said. “Paul got carried off and was back on his feet in a minute. I don’t know if the angels visited him at halftime or in the timeout period that he had or not, but he didn’t even limp when he came back out on the floor.

“Was Oral Roberts back there in their locker room?”

This was Jackson at his best, and Pierce can take credit for that, too. Not only did he will the Celtics to their impressive Game 1 victory, he transformed Phil Jackson back into his cynical, sarcastic, cutting self.

“That,” said of one of Jackson’s former players, “was the Phil Jackson we’ve been waiting to see.”

Until Thursday, Jackson had kept his barbs to himself throughout these playoffs. Lakers officials said they’ve never seen him so relaxed. Perhaps that’s because these young Lakers have already exceeded his expectations. Or maybe, as some have speculated, he never really viewed the Denver Nuggets, Utah Jazz or San Antonio Spurs as true threats.

These Celtics, however, are exactly that.

Jackson is famed for biting into an opposing coach or player. He angered the Spurs by attaching an asterisk to their lockout-season championship then later derisively labeled San Antonio a “tourist trap.” He called Sacramento a “cow town” and even alternately spliced photos of Hitler with game film of the Kings then-coach, Rick Adelman. Gregg Popovich got off easy. Jackson used to privately refer to him and his Spurs coaching staff as the “Simulator Crew.”

Jackson has also tweaked Mike D’Antoni, complained about which side of the court the Jazz warmed up on and once told Tim Duncan to stop whining to the officials. Jackson’s players, particularly the veterans, have typically delighted in the antics. He makes the grind of the regular season entertaining and lightens the too-tense tenor of the playoffs.

Still, Jackson had been uncharacteristically mild this spring, even offering only praise for Red Auerbach, Boston’s late patriarch and his longtime rival. So perhaps it’s not a coincidence that he sharpened his teeth at exactly the same time the Lakers fell into their first deficit of these playoffs. Zinging Pierce sure beats discussing whether Kobe Bryant and Derek Fisher didn’t share the ball enough.

In truth, any insinuation that Pierce staged his return is just as comical. Pierce didn’t fake his injury any more than Bryant faked the back spasms that slowed him for an afternoon in Utah. When Bryant recovered well enough the following game to total 26 points, seven assists and six rebounds and beat the Jazz, he, too, heard skeptics debate whether he had really been injured.

Privately, some Celtics have suggested Pierce was probably more scared than hurt, and that’s understandable. He heard his knee “pop,” and as any athlete knows that’s not a good sound. “Once I felt a sharp pain … I didn’t know what to think,” Pierce said. “The worst came to mind.”

The worst, of course, never arrived. Once in the locker room Pierce found he could put his weight on the leg without much trouble. Getting carried off the court, he admitted, “was sort of embarrassing.” The Celtics also haven’t even deemed it necessary to further evaluate the injury with an MRI.

“At this point, with two weeks left, six games to go, we can figure this out at the end of the season,” Pierce said.

On Friday that only fueled West Coast skepticism that he couldn’t be in too much pain.

“Aren’t we skeptics anyway now about everything?” Celtics coach Doc Rivers said. “So, what the heck? Let it begin. Let it begin. Lee Harvey Oswald did it.”

Lee Harvey. Oral Roberts. Michael Landon. All the Celtics need to know is this: If Phil Jackson is taking aim at them, if Pierce has awakened the cynic in the old Lakers coach, they must be doing something right.

T Park
06-07-2008, 01:41 AM
What else would you expect?

You smack the Lakers around they get cheap.

Fing ankle injuries and western finals schedule

dbreiden83080
06-07-2008, 01:41 AM
Jackson is a great coach but an ASSCLOWN

spurscenter
06-07-2008, 01:49 AM
yo T park, the last time any NBA schedule had 7 games every other night was back in the ABA

tells you something about the agenda at hand.

ShoogarBear
06-07-2008, 07:35 AM
Phil going to question another players' injury when he has KOBE on his team? :lol

1Parker1
06-07-2008, 08:51 AM
:lol I can't imagine a better coaching fit than LA for Phil.

Aggie Hoopsfan
06-07-2008, 10:12 AM
Phil going to question another players' injury when he has KOBE on his team? :lol

Beat me too it. The guy has the penultimate drama queen playing for him and he's whining about Pierce? Lame.

smahmood26
06-07-2008, 11:17 AM
Pierce was rolling on the ground and had to be carrie off by four teammates. A few minutes later he was jumping up and down. Way to dramatic, I guess I'm in the minority rooting for the Lakers.

ShoogarBear
06-07-2008, 11:22 AM
Nah, I hate the Celtics. But the fact is there is no more classless guy in the league than Phil Jackson.

Solid D
06-07-2008, 11:26 AM
Sounds like the wrong coach is nicknamed "Doc".

balli
06-07-2008, 11:29 AM
I think it's hilarious. Not to say that it isn't classless or rude, but still, he's funny and probably effective in terms of getting into peoples' heads.

mrspurs
06-07-2008, 11:32 AM
i cant stand either the lakers or celtics...but for whatever reason...(just dont feel like typing them again) pop woulda got outcoached again....oh well....go spurs go

N.Y. Johnny
06-07-2008, 01:31 PM
Pierce was rolling on the ground and had to be carrie off by four teammates. A few minutes later he was jumping up and down. Way to dramatic, I guess I'm in the minority rooting for the Lakers.



Reminded me of Soccer guy that falls to the ground as if a grenade exploded and then rolls on the field, is carried unconsiously off the field by medics and then seconds later is up and sprinting down the field.

Wow, I hope this isn't what is coming now, diving and fake injuries. That being said, I hate Boston and everything from there with a passion, but Phil Jackson and Kobe really have swayed me to make an exception. Someone said it right earlier, Phil Jackson is a great coach, i'll give him that, but he's an ASSCLOWN>

Condemned 2 HelLA
06-07-2008, 01:37 PM
Once again, Phillatio proves what a complete douche he is.
Get this series over quick, Boston.
I'm tired of seeing all these mouth breathing front running asshats out here wearing their Lamer gear and flying their goddamn car flags.

koriwhat
06-07-2008, 01:52 PM
Pierce was rolling on the ground and had to be carrie off by four teammates. A few minutes later he was jumping up and down. Way to dramatic, I guess I'm in the minority rooting for the Lakers.

im with ya... fuck both teams but fuck pierce more! that shit was pussy shit. pierce is a drama queen from hell.

Mr. Body
06-07-2008, 03:25 PM
Beat me too it. The guy has the penultimate drama queen playing for him and he's whining about Pierce? Lame.

For God's sake look up the word penultimate.

Mr.Bottomtooth
06-07-2008, 03:29 PM
For God's sake look up the word penultimate.

:lol

Lake_show
06-07-2008, 04:10 PM
“Well, if I’m not mistaken, I think Willis Reed missed a whole half and three quarters almost of a game and literally had to have a shot – a horse shot – three or four of them in his thigh to come back out and play,” Jackson said. “Paul got carried off and was back on his feet in a minute. I don’t know if the angels visited him at halftime or in the timeout period that he had or not, but he didn’t even limp when he came back out on the floor.

“Was Oral Roberts back there in their locker room?”



LMAO Phil is the man. Arguably the best coach of all time that was hilarious, I'm glad we don't have a boring coach but a real coach here in LA.

Trainwreck2100
06-07-2008, 04:17 PM
i don't know who is a worse Drama Queen Kobe or wade, anybody remember when Wade had to be wheelchaired off of the court for an arm injury?

spursfan09
06-07-2008, 04:17 PM
LMAO Phil is the man. Arguably the best coach of all time that was hilarious, I'm glad we don't have a boring coach but a real coach here in LA.

I know right! Everybody else just has fake coaches. Those others aren't real, they are just plastic

Mr. Body
06-07-2008, 04:22 PM
There's no bigger horse's ass in all of sports than Phil Jackson. You couldn't find a more flagrantly disrespectful, classless individual.

td4mvp21
06-07-2008, 04:37 PM
I know right! Everybody else just has fake coaches. Those others aren't real, they are just plastic

:lol

Phil Jackson is way too arrogant for his own good. I think as good of a coach as he is, he shouldn't be so petty after a loss. Notice almost all of his petty comments and jabs come after a loss.

The Truth #6
06-07-2008, 05:10 PM
I was watching the last 1:30 of Game 1 while on the phone so I wasn't completely paying attention, but did it seem like Phil screwed up by not fouling to stop the clock and give his team a chance? It seemed like he didn't care. It seemed like bad coaching to me. I suppose it was the ZEN thing to do nothing.

Does anyone else in the league like this guy at all? He throws everyone under the bus. His players are snickering now, until he takes a jab at them through the press when things don't go his way. In fact, using the press seems to be one of his chief coaching strategies. Pop is awkward in how deals with the press but I much prefer it to Phil's cheap approach.

Tradition
06-07-2008, 05:32 PM
There's no bigger horse's ass in all of sports than Phil Jackson. You couldn't find a more flagrantly disrespectful, classless individual.

1.) Bill Belichick is a much bigger prick than Phil.

2.) While Phil can be a prick, most of his shit talking is straight mind games.

angelbelow
06-07-2008, 05:41 PM
haha i had a feeling he wasnt as hurt as he reacted.

KB24 MVP
06-07-2008, 06:45 PM
The Truth talks shit about Bowen u guys bitch Paul about it hoping he dont win it and all n so forth that so PJ comments about pierce and now ur bitching on PJ damn who understand u guys then =S

Mister Sinister
06-07-2008, 09:44 PM
The Truth talks shit about Bowen u guys bitch Paul about it hoping he dont win it and all n so forth that so PJ comments about pierce and now ur bitching on PJ damn who understand u guys then =S

I *beg* your pardon?

GSH
06-07-2008, 09:50 PM
Jackson is a great coach but an ASSCLOWN

Phil Jackson didn't do dick the last couple of seasons, even with Kobe. He wasn't doing dick this season until they got Gasol. The fact that he has been able to win with MJ/Pippen, and Shaq/Kobe says that he was able to not lose with the best team in basketball. (Unless you count those years he lost with Shaq and Kobe on the same team.) Don't kiss his ass for that.

Lake_show
06-07-2008, 09:53 PM
He just answered the reporters question......wow, you guys are so used to Robo coach

fotan2
06-07-2008, 10:11 PM
Beat me too it. The guy has the penultimate drama queen playing for him and he's whining about Pierce? Lame.

i don't follow , but who is the best drama queen ?:lol:lol

Lake_show
06-07-2008, 10:14 PM
i don't follow , but who is the worst drama queen ?:lol:lol

Ginobody.

Mister Sinister
06-07-2008, 10:18 PM
Ginobody.
Clever.

LakerLanny
06-07-2008, 11:00 PM
Don't leave in a wheelchair unless you are at least out for the season.

To come back and play a few minutes later?

Sorry, that is as effeminate as it gets. Pierce just needs to change his tampon and make sure he has a big box of kleenex ready for Game 2.

LakerLanny
06-07-2008, 11:01 PM
Phil Jackson didn't do dick the last couple of seasons, even with Kobe. He wasn't doing dick this season until they got Gasol. The fact that he has been able to win with MJ/Pippen, and Shaq/Kobe says that he was able to not lose with the best team in basketball. (Unless you count those years he lost with Shaq and Kobe on the same team.) Don't kiss his ass for that.

Doug Collins couldn't win with MJ/Pippen and Del Harris and Kurt Rambis couldn't with Shaq/Kobe

Hate on Phil all you want, I admit he even annoys me at times with his "quirks" but you will respect his record damn you. :nope

Kermit
06-07-2008, 11:05 PM
Don't leave in a wheelchair unless you are at least out for the season.

To come back and play a few minutes later?

Sorry, that is as effeminate as it gets. Pierce just needs to change his tampon and make sure he has a big box of kleenex ready for Game 2.

He changed his tampon after your entire team was covered in his pussy blood. How did it feel, watching an effeminate man shit all over you team?

LakerLanny
06-07-2008, 11:10 PM
He changed his tampon after your entire team was covered in his pussy blood. How did it feel, watching an effeminate man shit all over you team?


Lakers are 12-1 in the playoffs when Ed F Rush is somewhere else

They are 0-3 when he is providing his special brand of "officiating"

11-2 without Bavetta, 1-2 when he is prancing around asking other refs if they saw the play right in front of him.

In other words, it had nothing to do with the effiminate, injury faking doughboy and everything to do with completely biased officiating. NBA knew they couldn't let Phil get Game 1, everyone knows what happens then. Especially San Antonio!

Kermit
06-07-2008, 11:14 PM
Don't worry. I'm sure the league will send Joey Crawford in to ref the next game so he can ignore a foul that sends the Lakers to victory. But it will have nothing to do with bias and will instead be the correct call.

Aggie Hoopsfan
06-07-2008, 11:37 PM
For God's sake look up the word penultimate.

I know exactly what penultimate means.

Cuban's still got him beat.

milkyway21
06-07-2008, 11:58 PM
LMAO Phil is the man. Arguably the best coach of all time that was hilarious, I'm glad we don't have a boring coach but a real coach here in LA.

He's not.

the best coach doesn't lose in the finals.
His Lakers with healthy ShaQ & Kobe lost to Detroit big time in 2004.

Yeah he's not boring because he's a sore loser. He talks like a woman. He's a:blah:blah

He just don't respect in almost everything about his opponents when he's losing.
He's got no class.

Spurs' Popovich might not be the best, but I'd still take him over PJack:
here's why? : 4 final appearances-4 wins= 100%

td4mvp21
06-08-2008, 12:08 AM
Lakers are 12-1 in the playoffs when Ed F Rush is somewhere else

They are 0-3 when he is providing his special brand of "officiating"

11-2 without Bavetta, 1-2 when he is prancing around asking other refs if they saw the play right in front of him.

In other words, it had nothing to do with the effiminate, injury faking doughboy and everything to do with completely biased officiating. NBA knew they couldn't let Phil get Game 1, everyone knows what happens then. Especially San Antonio!

I won't ever understand why Lakers fans get a free pass to bitch about officiating but when anyone else does it, they need to stop because it's petty and stupid and the officials aren't biased. Maybe I just have a hard time grasping bullshit concepts.

NewJerSpur
06-08-2008, 12:26 AM
I won't ever understand why Lakers fans get a free pass to bitch about officiating but when anyone else does it, they need to stop because it's petty and stupid and the officials aren't biased. Maybe I just have a hard time grasping bullshit concepts.

:tu

Mr. Body
06-08-2008, 12:50 AM
I know exactly what penultimate means.

Cuban's still got him beat.

Even then it doesn't make sense. Penultimate is a sequential term. Cuban came into the NBA public after Jackson.

Mr. Body
06-08-2008, 12:52 AM
I won't ever understand why Lakers fans get a free pass to bitch about officiating but when anyone else does it, they need to stop because it's petty and stupid and the officials aren't biased. Maybe I just have a hard time grasping bullshit concepts.

It's the same impulse that caused them to call the Spurs the "Sterns" for so long, despite all evidence (*) that Stern actually hated San Antonio and wanted them gone.

* - such as, when asked during a Spurs' championship run what his dream finals would be, he replied, "the Lakers versus the Lakers."

Condemned 2 HelLA
06-08-2008, 03:38 AM
The Truth talks shit about Bowen u guys bitch Paul about it hoping he dont win it and all n so forth that so PJ comments about pierce and now ur bitching on PJ damn who understand u guys then =S

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f109/riotgirl8268/Owls/ORLY.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v728/vip77/orly%20owls/bitchplz.jpg

shelshor
06-08-2008, 03:43 AM
I was watching the last 1:30 of Game 1 while on the phone so I wasn't completely paying attention, but did it seem like Phil screwed up by not fouling to stop the clock and give his team a chance? It seemed like he didn't care. It seemed like bad coaching to me. I suppose it was the ZEN thing to do nothing.

Does anyone else in the league like this guy at all? He throws everyone under the bus. His players are snickering now, until he takes a jab at them through the press when things don't go his way. In fact, using the press seems to be one of his chief coaching strategies. Pop is awkward in how deals with the press but I much prefer it to Phil's cheap approach.

Tex Winters didn't tell him that he needed to

Condemned 2 HelLA
06-08-2008, 03:57 AM
Doug Collins couldn't win with MJ/Pippen and Del Harris and Kurt Rambis couldn't with Shaq/Kobe

Hate on Phil all you want, I admit he even annoys me at times with his "quirks" but you will respect his record damn you. :nope

Phillatio has done NOTHING worthy of garnering ANYONE'S respect.
If he's so goddamn good, let's see how well he'd fare coaching teams like Memphis or Charlotte to the Finals.
He only takes jobs where he has a certain talent level in place already, or, in this last go around with the Lamers, where the money is right.
He's the most overrated coach in history with the most overinflated playoff record in history, bottom line.
End this series quick, Boston.

Trainwreck2100
06-08-2008, 04:16 AM
I know exactly what penultimate means.

Cuban's still got him beat.

doesnt penultimate mean second to last?

GSH
06-08-2008, 08:56 AM
Lakers are 12-1 in the playoffs when Ed F Rush is somewhere else

They are 0-3 when he is providing his special brand of "officiating"

11-2 without Bavetta, 1-2 when he is prancing around asking other refs if they saw the play right in front of him.

In other words, it had nothing to do with the effiminate, injury faking doughboy and everything to do with completely biased officiating. NBA knew they couldn't let Phil get Game 1, everyone knows what happens then. Especially San Antonio!

If you can't stand when the tables are turned, you're a pussy.

No complaining about the refs, anyone... except for us.
No complaining about injured players, anyone... except for us.
No talking shit about other cities, anyone... except for us.
No talking shit about the other coach, anyone... except for us.

I'll say it again:
If you can't stand when the tables are turned, you're a pussy.