Is FoxNews' E.D. Hill really that ignorant?

[01.20.09]

Fox Anchor Calls Obama Fist Pound a "Terrorist Fist Jab" (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/06/09/fox-anchor-calls-obama-fi_n_106027.html)

During the June 6 edition of Fox News' America's Pulse, host E.D. Hill teased an upcoming discussion by saying, "A fist bump? A pound? A terrorist fist jab? The gesture everyone seems to interpret differently." In the ensuing discussion with Janine Driver -- whom Hill introduced as "a body language expert" -- Hill referred to the "Michelle and Barack Obama fist bump or fist pound," adding that "people call it all sorts of things." Hill went on to ask Driver: "Let's start with the Barack and Michelle Obama, because that's what most people are writing about -- the fist thump. Is that sort of a signal that young people get?" At no point during the discussion did Hill explain her earlier reference to "a terrorist fist jab."


From the June 6 edition of Fox News' America's Pulse:


HILL: A fist bump? A pound? A terrorist fist jab? The gesture everyone seems to interpret differently. We'll show you some interesting body communication and find out what it really says.


Is she really that stupid?

[clambake]

too stupid to keep her racist views to herself.

too stupid to realize she just insulted 75% of america.

[xrayzebra]

No, she just gets paid well to talk to people who believe
all that junk. Body language................

[clambake]

No, she just gets paid well to talk to people who believe
all that junk. Body language................

i couldn't agree more. she's right there with malkin and coulter.

[JoeChalupa]

She's nuts. These people are completely out of bullets and if they think they can move anyone with their ‘terrorist fist jabs’ remarks we may as well just inaugurate Barack right now.

[Extra Stout]

She's nuts. These people are completely out of bullets and if they think they can move anyone with their ‘terrorist fist jabs’ remarks we may as well just inaugurate Barack right now.
Don't get overconfident about Obama. He's going to have to overcome a lot of "Oh, Hell NO" voters. The code words are intentional.

[JoeChalupa]

Don't get overconfident about Obama. He's going to have to overcome a lot of "Oh, Hell NO" voters. The code words are intentional.

I concur. I know it will be a very tough, tough election for Barack to win. But a milestone has been reached and I am grateful for that.

[clambake]

damn those jihad fist pumps.

[Extra Stout]

damn those jihad fist pumps.
Thanks to following the news, I now know that if I see anybody wearing a paisley scarf and touching fists with somebody else, that I have stumbled upon an Islamic suicide bomber.

[clambake]

and wrapping your head with a towel after a shower should be outlawed.

[Extra Stout]

I ate a falafel sandwich last week and am weighing whether I should turn myself in to the authorities for foreign rendition.

[Extra Stout]

Oh, and I ate some baba ghanouj Sunday night. This is a disturbing pattern.

[clambake]

I ate a falafel sandwich last week and am weighing whether I should turn myself in to the authorities for foreign rendition.

you have to, for your country.

i suggest you go in naked. they're just looking for an excuse.

and don't use gods name in vein when they interrogate you.

[1369]

Thanks to following the news, I now know that if I see anybody wearing a paisley scarf and touching fists with somebody else, that I have stumbled upon an Islamic suicide bomber.

Don't forget the iced latte from Dunkin' Donuts as well.

Dead giveaway that one.

[Twisted_Dawg]

Give E.D. some credit. When Fox news first came on line, she showed her clevage everyday to draw in viewers and ratings....which she did.

[Spurminator]

24 news baby! Love it!

Can't wait to get the email about this one...

[1369]

And her show is reportedly canned... (http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/6/10/125532/274/532/533395)

Does this mean the terrorists win?

[Don Quixote]

I ate a falafel sandwich last week and am weighing whether I should turn myself in to the authorities for foreign rendition.

Whatever. Unless you've been acquiring explosives, or learning how to fly planes (but not so much how to land them!) You'll be fine.

[Extra Stout]

Whatever. Unless you've been acquiring explosives, or learning how to fly planes (but not so much how to land them!) You'll be fine.
That's how they found out about Rach al-Ray; she took a flying lesson on one of those Tasty Travels episodes.

[JoeChalupa]

That's how they found out about Rach al-Ray; she took a flying lesson on one of those Tasty Travels episodes.

:lmao

[PixelPusher]

I ate a falafel sandwich last week and am weighing whether I should turn myself in to the authorities for foreign rendition.

Laugh it up, but the FBI was seriously considering tracking falafel sales a while ago.

[Extra Stout]

Laugh it up, but the FBI was seriously considering tracking falafel sales a while ago.
That makes sense. Who eats falafel?

1) Arabs. They're all terrorists.

2) People who like Middle Eastern food. Most likely terror supporters.

3) Vegetarians/vegans. Usually liberals.

4) People who enjoy experiencing different cultures. Probably liberals/socialists.

That isn't good Christian American food.


Martha used to make me falafel all the time.

Hippie.

[Extra Stout]

SHIR HAFALAFEL
FELLAFEL DANCE

Lechol medinah kan ba'olam
ma'achal le'umi hamukar lechulam,
vekol yeled bagan yode'a ki
ha'ochel macaroni hu italki.
La'Ostrim beVienna schnitzel ta'im,
vehatzarfatim ochlim tzfarde'im
hasinim ochlim orez dak verazeh,
vehakanibalim ochlim zeh et zeh.

Velanu yesh falafel,
falafel, falafel,
le'aba matanah
gam ima kan konah,
lesavta haz'kenah
nik'neh chatzi manah.
Vegam hachotenet hayom tekabel
falafel, falafel
im harbeh harbeh harbeh pilpel.

Pa'am k'sheba yehudi leyisrael
nishek la'adamah uverach ha"gomel."
Hayom, hu rak yored min hamatos
uch'var koneh falafel veshoteh gazoz.
Etzlenu ein melech, yesh rak nasi,
aval bam'luchah kvar hesagnu si.
Etzlenu kol yom kam melech chadash -
echad "me'ushar" hasheni "meyo'ash."

Ki lanu yesh falafel,
falafel, falafel,
ki kan moch'rim larov,
meri'ach kol har'chov
reichot shel sumsumin
veshemen parafin.
Vegam tzarevet efshar po lekabel
mifalafel, falafel
im harbeh harbeh harbeh pilpel.

Falafel la'asot zeh lo pashut,
falafel la'asot zot omanut,
veyuchal lehav'chin kol ben teiman
bein falafel shel chovev o shel aman.
Hamatz'chik beyoter hu, allah el azim
falafel asui beyadei ashkenazim!
Bafalafel kazeh tamid tar'gish
min ta'am muzar shel gefilte fish.

Rak lanu yesh falafel,
falafel, falafel,
le'aba matanah
gam ima kan konah,
lesavta haz'kenah
nik'neh chatzi manah.
Ki zeh hama'achal hale'umi shel Yisrael -
falafel, falafel
im harbeh harbeh harbeh pilpel.

[Nbadan]

Update: looks like Hill has lost her show on FAUX, but is too valuable a tool for the network to fire...


Last week, Fox News’s E.D. Hill called a fist pound between Barack and Michelle Obama a “terrorist fist jab.” Following Hill’s remark, Media Matters launched a petition calling on Hill to apologize. TVNewser is reporting that Fox News has canceled America’s Pulse, the nightly news show anchored by Hill: “America’s Pulse anchored by E.D. Hill goes away, but Hill stays with the network in a capacity to be determined.” The cancellation comes just four days after Hill’s “terrorist fist jab” remark, although the network would not give the reason for its actions. Hill apologized for her remarks on her show today.

Think Progress (http://thinkprogress.org/2008/06/10/ed-hill-loses-her-fox-news-show-after-terrorist-fist-jab-remark/)

That's what she gets for making the wing-nuts look too wing-nutty...

[JoeChalupa]

She apologized.

Gj8oIy6Crrs

[Wild Cobra]

Update: looks like Hill has lost her show on FAUX, but is too valuable a tool for the network to fire...

I doubt it had anything to do with the comment. Does anyone know what the shows ratings were? I'll bet the answer lies there!

As for the comment, I would say she was ignorant and decided to do the same thing that was done with the scarf in the commercial. Show that things can be misinterpreted. Besides, I never knew what it meant for sure. Everyone I ever see using that gesture is a wanna-be gang banger, or thug of some sort. I have never seen respectable people use that gesture.

[Anti.Hero]

The fist bump was extremely cheesy. Obamassiah and his wife know who they are trying to impress though so it worked.

[JoeChalupa]

I doubt it had anything to do with the comment. Does anyone know what the shows ratings were? I'll bet the answer lies there!

As for the comment, I would say she was ignorant and decided to do the same thing that was done with the scarf in the commercial. Show that things can be misinterpreted. Besides, I never knew what it meant for sure. Everyone I ever see using that gesture is a wanna-be gang banger, or thug of some sort. I have never seen respectable people use that gesture.

I saw Jack and Richard Hamilton give each other a fist pump in a commercial. I see ball players and all sorts of people doing this for quite some time.

I guess they should have gone with the chest bump instead.

http://meaningfuldistractions.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/bushchest1.jpg

[Wild Cobra]

I saw Jack and Richard Hamilton give each other a fist pump in a commercial. I see ball players and all sorts of people doing this for quite some time.

Are they respectable people?

Now keep in mind, I'm not saying they aren't respectable. Just that I never see respectable people doing it myself.

[boutons_]

Fist bump is another of those gangsta/ghetto/urban/prison negative contributions to pop culture that whitey thinks makes him so cool, when it really just makes him lame(r).

The closed fist, palm down is primarily a weapon, a sign of power and aggression, or a very least the symbol of a weapon, and of closure and opposition. Understandable that is comes out of black culture.

Whitey's palm-to-palm handshake was supposedly, originally meant to show something like "Fear not, I have no weapon, I open my hand (myself) to you".

The HUSSEINS!' fist bumping as Muslim terrrorism is of course about as high a level of relevant political discourse the right wing can attain.

Now, where the fuck did hugging get into the act?
The Americans are fucking insane about hugging, only in the past 20 or 30 years.
Does it have any meaning?
Does it bring people together?

And it's a certain kind of hugging.
Shoulder-to-shoulder only,
with no more/no less than exactly 3 pats on the back,
and above no chest-to-chest nor
waist-to-waist contact.

aka, stick your butt out and lean over to Ameri-hug.
People are fucking weird sheeple.

[JoeChalupa]

Are they respectable people?

Now keep in mind, I'm not saying they aren't respectable. Just that I never see respectable people doing it myself.

Jack in the Box commercial. What does "respectable" mean in your view? Are ball players not respectable? If you've ever seen an NBA game you'll players give each other a fist bump all the time.
Have you been living in a hole?

[Wild Cobra]

Jack in the Box commercial. What does "respectable" mean in your view? Are ball players not respectable?

Ever hear of the Jail Blazers?



If you've ever seen an NBA game you'll players give each other a fist bump all the time.

I see it. I don't know any of them I see doing it to be respectable. I could be wrong. Just an observation.



Have you been living in a hole?

I must live in a hole. I simply never see people I think of as respectable doing what has become a common gang symbol. It's like also never seeing respectable people wear their pants like prison fairies, but that's a different thread yet.

[JoeChalupa]

Gang symbol? :lmao Oh man you are just plain WAY out there in right field with that comment. :lmao :lmao Can I get a high-five!?!?

[scott]

Everyone I ever see using that gesture is a wanna-be gang banger, or thug of some sort. I have never seen respectable people use that gesture.

I have personally exchanged "daps" (a term for the fist bump) with executives (including CEOs) of no less than 3 Fortune 20 companies.

Whether or not those gentlemen are respectable, I'll leave for you to judge.

[Don Quixote]

I must live in a hole. I simply never see people I think of as respectable doing what has become a common gang symbol. It's like also never seeing respectable people wear their pants like prison fairies, but that's a different thread yet.

I fail to understand why we (the black community in particular, but also whites and Mexicans) get our criminals and thugs, and make them our teachers on how we ought to speak, act, and dress. This is not to say that everyone who dresses like a prisoner is in fact a crook (most aren't), but what is the attraction? I don't get it.

[Wild Cobra]

Gang symbol? :lmao Oh man you are just plain WAY out there in right field with that comment. :lmao :lmao Can I get a high-five!?!?
I'm sorry. That's just how I percieve it.

[Sec24Row7]

She just got fired from Fox for the comment.

[JoeChalupa]

I hope that puts an end to all this nonsense.

[PixelPusher]

I have personally exchanged "daps" (a term for the fist bump) with executives (including CEOs) of no less than 3 Fortune 20 companies.

Whether or not those gentlemen are respectable, I'll leave for you to judge.

I'm sure they were all hip-hop moguls...or terrorists! [/SuspenesfulMusicalCue]

[xrayzebra]

I have personally exchanged "daps" (a term for the fist bump) with executives (including CEOs) of no less than 3 Fortune 20 companies.

Whether or not those gentlemen are respectable, I'll leave for you to judge.

Were they oilco exec's?:lol:lol

[xrayzebra]

I fail to understand why we (the black community in particular, but also whites and Mexicans) get our criminals and thugs, and make them our teachers on how we ought to speak, act, and dress. This is not to say that everyone who dresses like a prisoner is in fact a crook (most aren't), but what is the attraction? I don't get it.


Many of the sports hero's and all the rap folks
come from street gangs and still give their little
hand signs at every opportunity. Unfortunately,
many parents allow their kids to set their own
standards. And like you, I don't understand it.

[boutons_]

"I have personally exchanged "daps" (a term for the fist bump) with executives (including CEOs) of no less than 3 Fortune 20 companies."

"So?"

How does that disprove that fatally lame corporate Dapper Dan's have assumed black gestures trying hopelessly to be black cool rather than whitey lame?

I bet they wear their baseball caps backwards, too?

[Don Quixote]

Well, I don't think the majority of the kids, or athletes, are actually in gangs. I'll even grant that most of them aren't even criminals. But they do certainly tend to take their cues (on how to dress, act in public, speak) from street culture or prison culture.

I just don't understand why we ought to hold up prison culture as the standard by which we ought to live.

[jochhejaam]

And it's a certain kind of hugging.
Shoulder-to-shoulder only,
with no more/no less than exactly 3 pats on the back,

Urban Dictionary:
1. "im not gay" hug
When two men, having a mutual respect for each other, give one another a hug and pat on the back, usually, three times in rapid succession. "pat... pat... pat" which translates to "im... not... gay"

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=%22im+not+gay%22+hug



The Mechanics of the Man Hug
http://artofmanliness.com/2008/03/07/the-mechanics-of-the-man-hug

[scott]

"I have personally exchanged "daps" (a term for the fist bump) with executives (including CEOs) of no less than 3 Fortune 20 companies."

"So?"

How does that disprove that fatally lame corporate Dapper Dan's have assumed black gestures trying hopelessly to be black cool rather than whitey lame?

I bet they wear their baseball caps backwards, too?

Try reading things in context. My comments were not to attempt to disprove anything about white people incorporating black pop-culture, but rather someone else's comments that no respectable person ever uses a fist bump.

Reading is fundemental.

[scott]

Were they oilco exec's?:lol:lol


Some of them, yes!

[Extra Stout]

Well, I don't think the majority of the kids, or athletes, are actually in gangs. I'll even grant that most of them aren't even criminals. But they do certainly tend to take their cues (on how to dress, act in public, speak) from street culture or prison culture.

I just don't understand why we ought to hold up prison culture as the standard by which we ought to live.
what up g

[Don Quixote]

Oh no. Now it's spread and made its way into the professional world. Now Big Engineering has gone hip-hop.

[RobinsontoDuncan]

i do fist bumps all the time.... I've never given the racial origin or social significance of these actions the amount of thought some of you are.... some of you should talk to your kids though, because they all do it too, and it doesn't have anything to do with being a gangster

[Spurminator]

I fist bump with men in the office, but when I greet women I usually grind up on their asses a bit with my pelvis. It's all good.

[JohnnyMarzetti]

E.D. needs to get fist pumped herself.

[JoeChalupa]

http://www.bartcop.com/poppy-fist-bump.jpg

[MannyIsGod]

:lol


I can't believe it was said that respectable people don't dap.

Holy shit man.

[MannyIsGod]

BTW, I don't believe for a second that most minority pop culture comes from gangs. Thats foolish. More likely gangs show a lot of minority pop culture because THEY ARE USUALLY COMPRISED BY THE POOR WHO HAPPEN TO BE FUCKING MINORITIES.

[DarkReign]

Everyone I ever see using that gesture is a wanna-be gang banger, or thug of some sort. I have never seen respectable people use that gesture.

Dude, you live in fucking Oregon for chrissakes. What did you expect?

[ChumpDumper]

http://www.defenselink.mil/dodcmsshare/newsstoryPhoto/2008-04/scr_FLUSH-080401-A-7233B-040.jpg
US Department of Defense photo showing a US serviceman converting to radical Islam.

[RandomGuy]

She just got fired from Fox for the comment.


http://blog.indecision2008.com/2008/06/11/fox-news-gives-ed-hill-a-terrorist-fist-jab-to-the-face/


Fox News Gives E.D. Hill a Terrorist Fist Jab to the Face


E.D. Hill -- host of Fox News' America's Pulse and the journalist responsible for alerting the world to the existence of Barack and Michelle Obama's insidious "terrorist fist jab" -- is having her hosting rights jabbed out from beneath her.

She's not getting fired outright. Apparently she will stay...

...with the network in a capacity to be determined. Hill has been with FNC since 1998. She co-anchored Fox & Friends for several years before moving to the 11amET hour, then launching America's Pulse.

There's no real use in any of us to speculating whether Hill's demotion is any way related to her letting the "terrorist fist jab" cat out of the bag, or if it's simply a reflection of her overall lack of intelligence and personality.

I mean, it could just be something as innocent as her breasts beginning to sag.
She must be in her 30s by now, and, as you know, Fox News has impeccable journalistic standards.

:lmao

[xrayzebra]

Oh, Damn. Rocco and Tiger just hugged. I think they are homo's!

[DarkReign]

Oh, Damn. Rocco and Tiger just hugged. I think they are homo's!

:lmao

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

http://www.bartcop.com/poppy-fist-bump.jpg

I can think of a few people in this thread who should kindly shut the fuck up right now.

[Anti.Hero]

We really shouldn't be forced to have to touch people, especially people we don't know/like just because it is the accepted thing to do upon meeting.

As MRSA and other SuperBugs become more prevalent, it'll only lead to more shit.