Best conservative propaganda whore

[RandomGuy]

Take yer pick. I made it anony-mouse so as to cloudy up things.

[Wild Cobra]

Well, I don't know who to pick. I can exclude four people up front as to posting what I believe is their solid belief rather than propaganda:

Yoni
XRay
Aggie
Myself.

I cannot say the other two don't interject propaganda, but I cannot think of a time I thought so either.

[clambake]

Well, I don't know who to pick. I can exclude four people up front as to posting what I believe is their solid belief rather than propaganda:

Yoni
XRay
Aggie
Myself.

that, alone, is propaganda.

[JoeChalupa]

:lmao And you don't think others post what they believe rather than propaganda?

I know yonivore, whottt and Xray fell for this propaganda

http://www.buzzflash.com/articles/files/bush-mission.jpg

[RandomGuy]

Well, I don't know who to pick. I can exclude four people up front as to posting what I believe is their solid belief rather than propaganda:

Yoni
XRay
Aggie
Myself.

I cannot say the other two don't interject propaganda, but I cannot think of a time I thought so either.

Propaganda is a concerted set of messages aimed at influencing the opinions or behaviors of large numbers of people. As opposed to impartially providing information, propaganda in its most basic sense presents information in order to influence its audience. Propaganda often presents facts selectively (thus lying by omission) to encourage a particular synthesis, or gives loaded messages in order to produce an emotional rather than rational response to the information presented. The desired result is a change of the cognitive narrative of the subject in the target audience to further a political agenda.

Propaganda is the deliberate, systematic attempt to shape perceptions, manipulate cognitions, and direct behavior to achieve a response that furthers the desired intent of the propagandist.

—Garth S. Jowett and Victoria O'Donnell, Propaganda and Persuasion



You cherry pick your stupid shit all the time. Lying by omission is your stock and trade, and that you pretend you aren't doing "propaganda" here is about as credible as Ann Coulter. :nope

[Spurminator]

XRay is just an impressionable old man who has picked a side and will buy anything his side tells him to believe.

Clandestino and Whottt just push people's buttons.

AHF is a pretty passionate conservative, but his beliefs are sincere and I don't think he would toe the party line on everything. I'm less confident in the sincerity of Wild Cobra's posts, but he plays the role well.

Yonivore is a clever, intelligent liar.

[2centsworth]

Propaganda is the deliberate, systematic attempt to shape perceptions, manipulate cognitions, and direct behavior to achieve a response that furthers the desired intent of the propagandist.

I believe you just described yourself. One thing you left out, a propagandist believes the more times they say something the more effective they will be. For example, the way you flood threads.

[Wild Cobra]

Propaganda is a concerted set of messages aimed at influencing the opinions or behaviors of large numbers of people. As opposed to impartially providing information, propaganda in its most basic sense presents information in order to influence its audience. Propaganda often presents facts selectively (thus lying by omission) to encourage a particular synthesis, or gives loaded messages in order to produce an emotional rather than rational response to the information presented. The desired result is a change of the cognitive narrative of the subject in the target audience to further a political agenda.

Propaganda is the deliberate, systematic attempt to shape perceptions, manipulate cognitions, and direct behavior to achieve a response that furthers the desired intent of the propagandist.

—Garth S. Jowett and Victoria O'Donnell, Propaganda and Persuasion



You cherry pick your stupid shit all the time. Lying by omission is your stock and trade, and that you pretend you aren't doing "propaganda" here is about as credible as Ann Coulter. :nope
What omissions? I cover why things are wrong. What do I omit?

Consider the "concerted" part of propaganda:


to concert (third-person singular simple present concerts, present participle concerting, simple past and past participle concerted)

1. To plan together; to settle or adjust by conference, agreement, or consultation.
2. To plan; to devise; to arrange.
3. To act in harmony or conjunction; to form combined plans.

I don't feel my actions fall under engaging in propaganda. I say what I believe. You constantly misread the meaning of something and rearrange the words to suit your purpose, like ozone = smog! I speak as factually and pointed as I can. I make mistakes at times, maybe often. I don't intentionally use words wrong.

[Don Quixote]

What do I have to do to get some respect around here as a conservative??

[xrayzebra]

XRay is just an impressionable old man who has picked a side and will buy anything his side tells him to believe.

Clandestino and Whottt just push people's buttons.

AHF is a pretty passionate conservative, but his beliefs are sincere and I don't think he would toe the party line on everything. I'm less confident in the sincerity of Wild Cobra's posts, but he plays the role well.

Yonivore is a clever, intelligent liar.

My choice as a conservative was spawned over
many years of experience. Impressionable, I'm
not. Many would argue with you about the
he will believe what he is told to believe.

I will ask you one question. Rush brought it up.
How come we need more social programs when
LBJ solved all the social programs in the 60's.
Does that mean he was a failure? Remember
butter and guns. Except the guns went and the
butter stayed.

[Wild Cobra]

What do I have to do to get some respect around here as a conservative??
Maybe you haven't pissed of RandomPropagandaGuy enough to get on his hit list?

[Clandestino]

I don't cut and paste propaganda... I merely tell the facts.

[balli]

What do I have to do to get some respect around here as a conservative??

Stop with the occasional rationality.

[balli]

Impressionable, I'm
not. Many would argue with you about the
he will believe what he is told to believe.

I will ask you one question. Rush brought it up.


That sound you hear is my jaw hitting the floor in disbelief at the obtusely contrarian nature of these "sentences". Good hell. :rollin

[scott]

My choice as a conservative was spawned over
many years of experience. Impressionable, I'm
not. Many would argue with you about the
he will believe what he is told to believe.

I will ask you one question. Rush brought it up.
How come we need more social programs when
LBJ solved all the social programs in the 60's.
Does that mean he was a failure? Remember
butter and guns. Except the guns went and the
butter stayed.

This.

Is.

Classic.

[Don Quixote]

Come on folks ... not every Rush listener is impressionable and easily duped. Give us a little credit, please.

[scott]

Come on folks ... not every Rush listener is impressionable and easily duped. Give us a little credit, please.

Maybe if this were the first thread I'd ever seen an xray post in... or I was a retard and grew up on a farm.

But I'm not... and I didn't.

[Nbadan]

Believe it or not I think a lot of successful women, I call them man-suit wearers, listen to Rush and Hannity and buy into the rah, rah, were-winning-the-war-and-anyone-who-wants-us-to-leave-is-a-appeaser bullshit...

Really, the Dubya administration has moved the Iraq goalpost of often, from finding and destroying Iraq's WMD program, to defeating Al-Queda, to stopping the Civil war, to the first free Iraq election, to helping the Iraq army stand up before we stand down...to the latest lame excuse...if we leave now we will be desecrating the memory of the soldiers who have already died...it's impossible to tell when victory will be, if ever achieved....but I suspect that with 60-70 U.S. bases going up in Iraq it will be never, especially if McCain gets elected....

[xrayzebra]

Okay, all you good dimms who seemed to find my post
humorous about listening to Rush, how come you didn't
answer the question. Cat got you tongue?

One other question: 19 million listeners. How many
does any of your oft quoted commentators have? Hmmm.
Especially dan's. And how many hire an independent
agency to check their accuracy? Hmmmm.

[clambake]

Okay, all you good dimms who seemed to find my post
humorous about listening to Rush, how come you didn't
answer the question. Cat got you tongue?

One other question: 19 million listeners. How many
does any of your oft quoted commentators have? Hmmm.
Especially dan's. And how many hire an independent
agency to check their accuracy? Hmmmm.

19 million turkeys being fed before the slaughter.

[xrayzebra]

Clam is in full throat this morning.......not saying much,
but is saying it loudly......Good Morning Clam. Have
a great day and don't let anyone spoil if for you.

[RandomGuy]

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[RandomGuy]

How come we need more social programs when
LBJ solved all the social programs in the 60's.
Does that mean he was a failure? Remember
butter and guns. Except the guns went and the
butter stayed.

Actually those social programs did exactly what they were supposed to do.

Food stamps kept people from starving, and welfare kept the desperately poor from being homeless.

They were never meant to "solve" poverty, merely alleviate the symptoms.

[RandomGuy]

What do I have to do to get some respect around here as a conservative??



Maybe you haven't pissed of RandomPropagandaGuy enough to get on his hit list?

DQ, although I don't agree with him on a lot of things, has never really tried to pass off his opinions as "facts" indesputable, nor does he post any op-ed pieces as the unvarnished end-all of truth.

[scott]

One other question: 19 million listeners. How many
does any of your oft quoted commentators have? Hmmm.
Especially dan's. And how many hire an independent
agency to check their accuracy? Hmmmm.


Maybe I'm in the minority here, but I don't have any commentators, oft-quoted or not. I like to... you know... form my own opinions.

[Purple & Gold]

Is there such a thing as "best conservative"??

[Don Quixote]

DQ, although I don't agree with him on a lot of things, has never really tried to pass off his opinions as "facts" indesputable, nor does he post any op-ed pieces as the unvarnished end-all of truth.

Yeah, I read and listen to op-eds, but really, politics is not really my field. It's good to approach to it with a certain degree of humility and respect, at least toward other Americans (and non-Marxists).

But ... really, is it all that reasonable for us non-experts to be able to form informed, reasonable opinions about world politics without some help from people smarter on the issues that us? I don't, and don't try.

[balli]

One other question: 19 million listeners. How many
does any of your oft quoted commentators have?
Considering fringe-wing punditry has never been our thing, I don't think bragging about your lemming migration towards it is a good thing.

See, rather listen to the beliefs of some insane opiate addict with a room full of "fact-checkers", we generally read newspapers and make our own inferences based on the reporting and facts they present us with. And last time I checked newspaper circulation was hovering around 50 million.

[jochhejaam]

Propaganda is the deliberate, systematic attempt to shape perceptions, manipulate cognitions, and direct behavior to achieve a response that furthers the desired intent of the propagandist.
[I]


I believe you just described yourself. One thing you left out, a propagandist believes the more times they say something the more effective they will be. For example, the way you flood threads.

For you RG.

<no need to thank me>

[George Gervin's Afro]

yoniwhore...

[exstatic]

Come on folks ... not every Rush listener is impressionable and easily duped. Give us a little credit, please.

No, only the ones not laughing and playing drinking games.

[RandomGuy]

(originally posted by 2centsworth)

For you RG.

<no need to thank me>

I do occasionally read his posts when I check in without logging in.

What I will not do, simply because 2cents an asshole, is bother responding to him, even if he brings up a good point on occasion.

Out of all the conservatives on this board, he is the ONE person who I have on ignore. That says volumes.

[2centsworth]

That says volumes.

ego mananiac. what RG says or thinks speaks volumes :lol.

[jochhejaam]

ego mananiac. what RG says or thinks speaks volumes :lol.


I have a hunch that my friend RG reads all of your posts that he believes may be directed at his posts.

[Mr. Peabody]

Come on folks ... not every Rush listener is impressionable and easily duped. Give us a little credit, please.

I listen to Rush regularly and I'm am not the slightest bit conservative. He's entertaining and occasionally has valid points.

[2centsworth]

I listen to Rush regularly and I'm am not the slightest bit conservative. He's entertaining and occasionally has valid points.
honesty is not allowed on this forum, please find another.

[JoeChalupa]

I listen to Rush regularly and I'm am not the slightest bit conservative. He's entertaining and occasionally has valid points.

Yeah, I listen to him too so I know how the whack right-wingers are thinking and more often then not his views are proven by posts in the political forum.

[2centsworth]

Yeah, I listen to him too so I know how the whack right-wingers are thinking and more often then not his views are proven by posts in the political forum.

huh?

[Don Quixote]

Yeah, I listen to him too so I know how the whack right-wingers are thinking and more often then not his views are proven by posts in the political forum.

Yep, we're all whack. Be careful, you might become one of us ... :wow

[jochhejaam]

Yeah, I listen to him too so I know how the whack right-wingers are thinking and more often then not his views are proven by posts in the political forum.

Whoa...any advice on a where I might find a site that translates Senior Citizenese into English?

[Don Quixote]

Respect your elders!

[RandomGuy]

I have a hunch that my friend RG reads all of [2centsworths' posts] that he believes may be directed at his posts.

100% honest:
Sometimes, but not always.

I may stumble across them when not logged in, and indeed, may occasionally purposefully view them when they are probably directed at me, but you can be certain that I won't bother replying. Not worth the trouble.

[xrayzebra]

Everyone listen to Rush today? Rumored Rush started a
rumor that a tape exist she said whitey. Damn that Rush
sure does get a lot of talk for someone no one listens to.

[RandomGuy]

Wish I could change my vote...

It would seem that Aggie Hoopsfan wins hands down.

[cool hand]

sean hannity

[rascal]

What omissions? I cover why things are wrong. What do I omit?

Consider the "concerted" part of propaganda:



I don't feel my actions fall under engaging in propaganda. I say what I believe. You constantly misread the meaning of something and rearrange the words to suit your purpose, like ozone = smog! I speak as factually and pointed as I can. I make mistakes at times, maybe often. I don't intentionally use words wrong.

You believe what others tell you to believe, you feed off the propaganda that conservative talk radio is and re state that propaganda in here.

[whottt]

You believe what others tell you to believe, you feed off the propaganda that conservative talk radio is and re state that propaganda in here.



There are about 3 Republican Posters that do that on this forum...and about 732 Democrats ones that do the exact same things only with much more frequency. In fact I cannot think of a Democrat that doesn't do it...maybe Chump.

[clambake]

i haven't heard this, or read this, nor have i seen this, but...........bin ladin is laughing his ass off.

[whottt]

Personally I resent the notion that my political stance is fixed....#1 I am a moderate. #2. My stance will change depending on the political climate of the US and the World...and the problems we face.

For instance...I support the government bailout of AIG and Fannie Mae and Freddi Mac, even though some consider it abject socialism.




It may seem like I lean right right now...but that's really just that I am more willing to take 3 steps to the right than I am 5 to the left....that was my choice in 2004, I don't even have to take 3 steps to the right in this election...maybe 2....while the left is now asking me to take 7 steps in their direction.

If the steps were equal I'd be more than happy to take them to the left...but they aren't equal, they haven't been equal since 2000.

And...you know, I don't consider saying, FUCK THEM THEY'RE SAVAGES, let's pull out and who gives a shit how many people get slaughtered, a liberal stance.

I also don't consider appeasing a liberal stance.

[RandomGuy]

Bump.

Because Yoni seems to be aiming to get more votes. :lol

(note: thread was in response to someone else's thread poll asking for best liberal propaganda whore, thread titles like this are not my normal style-RG)

[Wild Cobra]

Bump.

Because Yoni seems to be aiming to get more votes. :lol

(note: thread was in response to someone else's thread poll asking for best liberal propaganda whore, thread titles like this are not my normal style-RG)
I wonder why RandomPropagandaGuy wasn't on the list?

[clambake]

I wonder why RandomPropagandaGuy wasn't on the list?

because of the thread title, dumbass.

[RandomGuy]

I wonder why RandomPropagandaGuy wasn't on the list?

As I noted the title was in response to whottt's thread:

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=98735

That only really named people who he thought were "liberal".
Yes, I am on that list of options, although he didn't use your moniker for me.

[LnGrrrR]

Okay, all you good dimms who seemed to find my post
humorous about listening to Rush, how come you didn't
answer the question. Cat got you tongue?


Guns haven't gone anywhere. I would think that whole situation in Arizona might have proven otherwise.

Next question?

[Winehole23]

It's a rather short list, don't you think?

xray and AHF hardly post here anymore, clandestino even more rarely. Yoni just rejoined us after a months long sabbatical. WC's treatments had been lighter of late, but some of the old-timey truculence is just now coming to the fore.

I'm not sure whottt even counts as conservative. Still less was he ever a whore to any recognizable political dogma apart from whottism, that I saw.

An anonymous poll?

What I don't understand RG, is why you didn't just PM them all your middle finger instead.


:sleep

[Winehole23]

(Maybe he just wanted to see how many others would still salute.)

[Winehole23]

(I didn't vote.)

[Winehole23]

Poignant. (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2591551&postcount=26)

[RandomGuy]

It's a rather short list, don't you think?

xray and AHF hardly post here anymore, clandestino even more rarely. Yoni just rejoined us after a months long sabbatical. WC's treatments had been lighter of late, but some of the old-timey truculence is just now coming to the fore.

I'm not sure whottt even counts as conservative. Still less was he ever a whore to any recognizable political dogma apart from whottism, that I saw.

An anonymous poll?

What I don't understand RG, is why you didn't just PM them all your middle finger instead.


:sleep

You did notice the thread is 2.5 years old, and meant as a parody of another thread, right?

This isn't the kind of thing I usually put forth, and I was looking over a few of my threads from years ago. I think I have mellowed out somewhat in the last year or so. Interesting.

I must admit though to being quite proud of my "Wile E. Cobra" selection, simply because it is a very clever in-joke. I had forgotten about it until stumbling across this thread looking for things I had written about Pakistan.

[Winehole23]

You did notice the thread is 2.5 years old, and meant as a parody of another thread, right?That is your fig leaf.


This isn't the kind of thing I usually put forth, and I was looking over a few of my threads from years ago. I think I have mellowed out somewhat in the last year or so. Interesting.Navel-gazing? Ok.

[RandomGuy]

(I didn't vote.)

You should.

There can be only one!

http://operationalpha.files.wordpress.com/2010/10/highlander_connor.jpg

Although at this point Yoni has moved ahead of the field by a considerable margin.

[Winehole23]

One best or one biggest?

[RandomGuy]

One best or one biggest?

Good question. hmmm.

Probably both the same thing. You could say "best" is the most persuasive, or you simply define "best" as the one that can produce the most output.

I guess that is the problem with using someone else's stuff as a baseline. :depressed

Given the voting though I think most opted for the latter, rather than the former.

[Winehole23]

If you had said "worst" instead the results might have been much the same.

[Winehole23]

(Having the word whore in the banner and the question maybe queers the gloss a little. But I of course I forget. Were you called a whore too?)

[Winehole23]

Ah yes, propaganda whore.

[Winehole23]

:sleep