Lakers now own the Asterisk

[spurs4real]

Jim Rome just said that the Lakers and not the Spurs who won the 1999 title fair and square own the asterisk now. The allegations are that Tim Donaghy says that game 6 against the Kings in the 2002 Playoffs was fixed so that the Lakers won and insure a game 7.
Take that Phil Jackson.

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/nn9/robbtuff/lakersasterisk.jpg?t=1213220132

[Brutalis]

Yeah take that! Wooo baby ownageeee!

[mardigan]

Jime Rome is a f-ing tool.

[hater]

http://rossbender.org/asterisk2.jpg

[lefty]

Jime Rome is a f-ing tool.

He is.

But still, that was nice :D

[spurs4real]

http://rossbender.org/asterisk2.jpg

:lol

[lebomb]

Someone head over to Lakersground.net and start an Asterisks thread!!!!

[Medvedenko]

Here's a breakdown to your "conspiracy"

Game 1:
Laker FT: 16-22
Kings FT: 16-17
Lakers Win

Game 2:
Laker FT: 15-25
Kings FT: 23-38
Kings Win

Game 3:
Kings FT: 21-35
Lakers FT: 8-15
Kings Win

Game 4:
Kings FT: 18-26
Lakers FT: 18-27
Lakers Win

Game 5:
Lakers FT: 17-23
Kings FT: 22-33
Kings Win

Game 6:
Kings FT: 18-25
Lakers FT: 34-40 (Shaq 13-17) Tried hack a shaq didn't work.....
Lakers Win

Game 7:
Lakers FT: 27-33
Kings FT: 15-36 Nuff Said...
Lakers Win

Fuck this conspiracy BS

Total FT's
Kings: 133-210 63%
Laker: 135-185 73%

Owned.

I forgot that Jim Rome is now the prophet of all things......please he has bashed Pop in the past and now you're all over his jock.

[hater]

Here's a breakdown to your "conspiracy"

Game 1:
Laker FT: 16-22
Kings FT: 16-17
Lakers Win

Game 2:
Laker FT: 15-25
Kings FT: 23-38
Kings Win

Game 3:
Kings FT: 21-35
Lakers FT: 8-15
Kings Win

Game 4:
Kings FT: 18-26
Lakers FT: 18-27
Lakers Win

Game 5:
Lakers FT: 17-23
Kings FT: 22-33
Kings Win

Game 6:
Kings FT: 18-25
Lakers FT: 34-40 (Shaq 13-17) Tried hack a shaq didn't work.....
Lakers Win

Game 7:
Lakers FT: 27-33
Kings FT: 15-36 Nuff Said...
Lakers Win

Fuck this conspiracy BS

Total FT's
Kings: 133-210 63%
Laker: 135-185 73%

Owned.

I forgot that Jim Rome is now the prophet of all things......please he has bashed Pop in the past and now you're all over his jock.


http://rossbender.org/asterisk2.jpg

[Medvedenko]

Yup, we'll take the asterisk, on a game 6....Look, the Sac team choked in game 7 at home. Blame the refs....also the refs shot the horry shot in game 4 as well....miracle I know.

[Leetonidas]

I don't really give a shit. I'd find it hilarious if it was the Suns instead of the Lakers though.

[lefty]

Yup, we'll take the asterisk, on a game 6....Look, the Sac team choked in game 7 at home. Blame the refs....also the refs shot the horry shot in game 4 as well....miracle I know.

It's not just the number of FT's

You have to see how the fouls were called....and game 6 was a joke

[v2freak]

Here's a breakdown to your "conspiracy"

Game 1:
Laker FT: 16-22
Kings FT: 16-17
Lakers Win

Game 2:
Laker FT: 15-25
Kings FT: 23-38
Kings Win

Game 3:
Kings FT: 21-35
Lakers FT: 8-15
Kings Win

Game 4:
Kings FT: 18-26
Lakers FT: 18-27
Lakers Win

Game 5:
Lakers FT: 17-23
Kings FT: 22-33
Kings Win

Game 6:
Kings FT: 18-25
Lakers FT: 34-40 (Shaq 13-17) Tried hack a shaq didn't work.....
Lakers Win

Game 7:
Lakers FT: 27-33
Kings FT: 15-36 Nuff Said...
Lakers Win

Fuck this conspiracy BS

Total FT's
Kings: 133-210 63%
Laker: 135-185 73%

Owned.

I forgot that Jim Rome is now the prophet of all things......please he has bashed Pop in the past and now you're all over his jock.

Could you also break those numbers down further, for my benefit? You make a solid argument, but the case is that the Lakers got a flurry of free throws in the 4th quarter (the most important time of the game in my opinion) which completed shifted the momentum of the game.

[InRareForm]

hahaha laker fans are mad. i raise a beer to the sky for them losing this years finals as well.

[sprrs]

Yup, we'll take the asterisk, on a game 6....Look, the Sac team choked in game 7 at home. Blame the refs....also the refs shot the horry shot in game 4 as well....miracle I know.

Asterisk on the game that would have eliminated them from the playoffs but no asterisk on the rest of that postseason run?

[Medvedenko]

It's not just the number of FT's

You have to see how the fouls were called....and game 6 was a joke

Yeah it was a joke...for sure, just like the other games that Sac won with their huge disparity in Free Throws.

[Medvedenko]

Asterisk on the game that would have eliminated them from the playoffs but no asterisk on the rest of that postseason run?

I haven't watched that game since 02, so I would have loved to see the 4 q again and look with Timmy D goggles.

[v2freak]

Yeah it was a joke...for sure, just like the other games that Sac won with their huge disparity in Free Throws.

Again, the timing of the free throws is integral to this discussion.

[Pero]

Yup, we'll take the asterisk, on a game 6....Look, the Sac team choked in game 7 at home. Blame the refs....also the refs shot the horry shot in game 4 as well....miracle I know.

Actually, they did. By acknowledging a shot they shouldn't have at half-time.


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[xtremesteven33]

Jim Rome said that??!!!
do pigs fly?

[Jayem]

didn't vlade and others foul out due to all the calls? so basically the refs took players out of the game to help LA

[leemajors]

:jack

[hsxvvd]

Can't wait for the Senate enquiry that uncovers this years asterix for both the Celtics and Lakers!

Vince McStern had better start up the shredder.

[BigVee]

Yup, we'll take the asterisk, on a game 6....Look, the Sac team choked in game 7 at home. Blame the refs....also the refs shot the horry shot in game 4 as well....miracle I know.

One thing has absolutely nothing to do with the other. You cannot predict what will happen in an NBA game. There never should have been a game 7. Take the blinders off, most neutral observers said at the time the Kings got screwed. Now we know for sure. You lucked out in game 4 and the ref gave you game 6. Nice dynasty.

[LakerLanny]

It's not just the number of FT's

You have to see how the fouls were called....and game 6 was a joke

Urban myth.

Name two bad calls (specific plays) in that infamous 4th quarter.

No Kings fan could ever do it and I am sure a tool *purs fan can't do it either.

Doug Christie was on LA radio today whining about the "27 ft's in the 4th qtr" of that game, I guess conveniently forgetting that his team INTENTIONALLY FOULED for 10 of those attempts and others were Hack A Shaq. Were the refs not supposed to call the fouls the Queens were intentionally trying to commit?

Bottom line is the Lakers won 3 Titles in a row in the middle of your so called dynasty and would have had 4 if not for the infamous 35-12 2003 Game 1 fix vs your team.

Queens have never even been in the finals, much less won one. Even a scrub franchise like the Suns have at least made the Finals twice.

Forget trying to debate this issue with me, I am a legend on this subject and the foremost authority on the internet about it.

[slayermin]

if not for the infamous 35-12 2003 Game 1 fix vs your team.

You didn't even watch this entire game. How do you know it was fixed?

[Trainwreck2100]

Bottom line is the Lakers won 3 Titles in a row in the middle of your so called dynasty and would have had 4 if not for the infamous 35-12 2003 Game 1 fix vs your team.

So the refs made Robert Horry miss a wide open 3?

Did they also rig the rims so that Bowen made a franchise record in 3s for a game?

[Medvedenko]

So the refs made Robert Horry miss a wide open 3?

Did they also rig the rims so that Bowen made a franchise record in 3s for a game?


You're absolutely correct, that's why I don't hold too much emotions regarding the ref scandals. It always comes down to guys making or missing shots, foul line or 3 line.

[FromWayDowntown]

I'd be interested in hearing Lanny point to what calls the officials got wrong in Game 1 of the 2003 Spurs/Lakers series.

I'd also be interested in his explanation for why the disparity in Game 1 of that series demonstrates a fix, but for why the disparity in Game 4 of that series (45-26 for LA -- +19 for you poets out there) is not as egregious as the disparity in Game 1 of that series (35-12 for SA, +23 for the poetry crowd).

I'll wait to hear back.

[FromWayDowntown]

You're absolutely correct, that's why I don't hold too much emotions regarding the ref scandals. It always comes down to guys making or missing shots, foul line or 3 line.

I agree with this. Games are decided by whether players make or miss shots and whether players defend or don't and things like that. Disparities in the number of FTA, standing alone, aren't indicative of favoritism by officials and the argument to say that a wide disparity shows "a fix" -- Lanny's term -- is beyond absurd if there is no context given to the disparity. A big differential in FTA might mean any number of things -- as Lanny's contentions concerning Game 6 of the LAL/SAC series in 2002 demonstrate.

[ShoogarBear]

I'll wait to hear back.

Don't hold your breath.

[Pero]

I'd also be interested in his explanation for why the disparity in Game 1 of that series demonstrates a fix, but for why the disparity in Game 4 of that series (45-26 for LA -- +22 for you poets out there) is not as egregious as the disparity in Game 1 of that series (35-12 for SA, +23 for the poetry crowd).

I'll wait to hear back.

45 - 26 = 22 ? :lol

[FromWayDowntown]

45 - 26 = 22 ? :lol

So kill me; I'm a poet, too.

19 vs. 23 -- it's obviously that 4 FTA gap that is the difference between a fix and a well-officiated game.

I fixed it.

[Pero]

19 vs. 23 -- it's obviously that 4 FTA gap that is the difference between a fix and a well-offiicated game.

Of course, didn't you learn that at school? :rollin

[lefty]

Urban myth.

Name two bad calls (specific plays) in that infamous 4th quarter.

No Kings fan could ever do it and I am sure a tool *purs fan can't do it either.

Doug Christie was on LA radio today whining about the "27 ft's in the 4th qtr" of that game, I guess conveniently forgetting that his team INTENTIONALLY FOULED for 10 of those attempts and others were Hack A Shaq. Were the refs not supposed to call the fouls the Queens were intentionally trying to commit?

Bottom line is the Lakers won 3 Titles in a row in the middle of your so called dynasty and would have had 4 if not for the infamous 35-12 2003 Game 1 fix vs your team.

Queens have never even been in the finals, much less won one. Even a scrub franchise like the Suns have at least made the Finals twice.

Forget trying to debate this issue with me, I am a legend on this subject and the foremost authority on the internet about it.

Actually, the 2000-2002 Lakers dynasty is an urban myth

[spurs_fan_in_exile]

I wish it was someone who I liked making the argument. I wouldn't wipe my ass with one of Jim Rome's opinions much less agree with it.

[mardigan]

I wish it was someone who I liked making the argument. I wouldn't wipe my ass with one of Jim Rome's opinions much less agree with it.

Bingo.
This guy has said so much stupid shit during his career that even when he says something about a team I hate I have to disregard it.

[jack sommerset]

Both the Spurs and Lakers have an Asterick now.

[E20]

I love watching this:
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[GaryJohnston]

He is.

But still, that was nice :D

so is your sig:toast

[GrandeDavid]

Here's a breakdown to your "conspiracy"

Game 1:
Laker FT: 16-22
Kings FT: 16-17
Lakers Win

Game 2:
Laker FT: 15-25
Kings FT: 23-38
Kings Win

Game 3:
Kings FT: 21-35
Lakers FT: 8-15
Kings Win

Game 4:
Kings FT: 18-26
Lakers FT: 18-27
Lakers Win

Game 5:
Lakers FT: 17-23
Kings FT: 22-33
Kings Win

Game 6:
Kings FT: 18-25
Lakers FT: 34-40 (Shaq 13-17) Tried hack a shaq didn't work.....
Lakers Win

Game 7:
Lakers FT: 27-33
Kings FT: 15-36 Nuff Said...
Lakers Win

Fuck this conspiracy BS

Total FT's
Kings: 133-210 63%
Laker: 135-185 73%

Owned.

I forgot that Jim Rome is now the prophet of all things......please he has bashed Pop in the past and now you're all over his jock.


Not that I really care what he has to say, but Jim Rome has only given love to Pop, at least the past few years, saying such junk as Pop is better with the greaseboard than any other coach in the league, etc.

[Pucho!!!]

I haven't watched that game since 02, so I would have loved to see the 4 q again and look with Timmy D goggles.

Maybe you should change your name...is that guy still in the NBA hahaha:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:downspin:

[ajh18]

See, the thing is, it's easy to say any game in which you feel like your team got robbed was "fixed". The problem that the Lakers have though, is that regardless of his credibility, an NBA official has suggested that a crucial game in their title run was fixed. I'm not going to blame the times we got beat on a fix, nor will a blame other team's wins on it. But for those games that an NBA ref actually said were fixed, well, you at least have to consider those.

[yomama21]

Actually, the 2000-2002 Lakers dynasty is an urban myth


Yo man, who's the chick on your sig? She's fucking hot!!

[Whisky Dog]

you people disgust me.

[Medvedenko]

Not that I really care what he has to say, but Jim Rome has only given love to Pop, at least the past few years, saying such junk as Pop is better with the greaseboard than any other coach in the league, etc.

See Jim Rome flame Pop after Pop expressed his disdain regarding the gasol trade and said trade committee comments.

[DazedAndConfused]

I suggest you guys all watch Game 5 of the 2002 WCF. There were some equally dubious calls in that game that enabled the Kings to be in a position to win the game. Most notably were Webber stepping out of bounds right in front of a ref with 15 seconds left, and Webber setting a moving screen to free Bibby open for the game winning shot. I felt that entire series was orchestrated to go 7 games no matter what. In the 7th game, which was in SAC, the Kings flat out choked and couldn't hit a free throw to save their life. They didn't deserve to advance, they had all the chances in the world to win that game easily at home and they didn't. The Lakers did.

[TDMVPDPOY]

with all the investigation so far, h ow come none organized crime syndicates being name yet?

[Pero]

I suggest you guys all watch Game 5 of the 2002 WCF. There were some equally dubious calls in that game that enabled the Kings to be in a position to win the game. Most notably were Webber stepping out of bounds right in front of a ref with 15 seconds left, and Webber setting a moving screen to free Bibby open for the game winning shot. I felt that entire series was orchestrated to go 7 games no matter what. In the 7th game, which was in SAC, the Kings flat out choked and couldn't hit a free throw to save their life. They didn't deserve to advance, they had all the chances in the world to win that game easily at home and they didn't. The Lakers did.

Please. If the Lakers hadn't won't game 4 because of a ref "mistake" it would've been 3-1 for the Kings, and no way Lakers win 3 straight against them.

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[Spuradicator]

I suggest you guys all watch Game 5 of the 2002 WCF. There were some equally dubious calls in that game that enabled the Kings to be in a position to win the game. Most notably were Webber stepping out of bounds right in front of a ref with 15 seconds left, and Webber setting a moving screen to free Bibby open for the game winning shot. I felt that entire series was orchestrated to go 7 games no matter what. In the 7th game, which was in SAC, the Kings flat out choked and couldn't hit a free throw to save their life. They didn't deserve to advance, they had all the chances in the world to win that game easily at home and they didn't. The Lakers did.

So the whole series was fixed on both ends to push towards a game 7? That still doesn't mean NBA DIDN'T fix the series. The Kings were a better team, everyone could see that, and would of won that series had the NBA not sneaked their agenda in.

Bottom line is this is a black eye for the NBA. And there is probably a good reason those other refs haven't spoken up against the accuasations

[kobyz]

the refs gave the spurs - lakers series this season to the lakers,
in game one the last basket of bryant was ofensive foul, and in game 4 the refs was killing the spurs all the game including the fisher foul - no call in the end.

[DazedAndConfused]

So the whole series was fixed on both ends to push towards a game 7? That still doesn't mean NBA DIDN'T fix the series. The Kings were a better team, everyone could see that, and would of won that series had the NBA not sneaked their agenda in.

Bottom line is this is a black eye for the NBA. And there is probably a good reason those other refs haven't spoken up against the accuasations

The series was fixed to go to 7 games IMHO. I have re-watched most of that series this week and can so without a doubt that the refs were making very crucial and questionable calls in Games 2,5, and 6 (with 6 being the worst by far).

This isn't good for any NBA team if games were fixed in this manner because it only means that this has happened multiple times with multiple teams. To act like your team is immune from it is missing the point entirely. I shouldn't expect Spur fan to see past his seething hate for the Lakers though and understand that this kind of scandal is going to ruin basketball if true. All that's important to Spur fan is seeing the Lakers go down and be discredited.

[LakerLanny]

the refs gave the spurs - lakers series this season to the lakers,
in game one the last basket of bryant was ofensive foul, and in game 4 the refs was killing the spurs all the game including the fisher foul - no call in the end.

Your team shot more FTs in Game 4, never led despite playing at home and got three beneficial blown calls just in the last minute alone (Parker's layup blocked called goaltend, Manu's "3" standing on the line, Fisher's shot hitting rim and clock not being reset) to even keep you in the game prior to the Barry play.

And Barry moved both feet on that play without dribbling before being contacted by Fisher anyway.

Try again.

[kobyz]

Your team shot more FTs in Game 4, never led despite playing at home and got three beneficial blown calls just in the last minute alone (Parker's layup blocked called goaltend, Manu's "3" standing on the line, Fisher's shot hitting rim and clock not being reset) to even keep you in the game prior to the Barry play.

And Barry moved both feet on that play without dribbling before being contacted by Fisher anyway.

Try again.

Parker's layup blocked called goaltend - that was goaltend
Manu's "3" standing on the line - Manu was not standing on the line
Fisher's shot hitting rim and clock not being reset - Fisher shot was not hitting rim

the refs make all the game mistake against the spurs and the play when Gasol was on the line and Horry just put his foot and immediately bring his foot back and the refs after they saw gasol miss the free throw gave gasol another shot - that play showing that the refs had a bad intention to give the lakers the game , they simpley invent a call to give the lakers a point.

[Whisky Dog]

The NBA disgusts me.

[LakerLanny]

Parker's layup blocked called goaltend - that was goaltend
Manu's "3" standing on the line - Manu was not standing on the line
Fisher's shot hitting rim and clock not being reset - Fisher shot was not hitting rim

the refs make all the game mistake against the spurs and the play when Gasol was on the line and Horry just put his foot and immediately bring his foot back and the refs after they saw gasol miss the free throw gave gasol another shot - that play showing that the refs had a bad intention to give the lakers the game , they simpley invent a call to give the lakers a point.


What are you talking about? The replay showed that LO blocked Parker's shot before it hit the backboard, thus not goaltending. That is indisputable.

The video shows Manu's foot clearly on the line for his "3"....the rule is (I guess you don't know it) that you have to be behind the line, not standing on the line to get a 3.

So those two plays were a free and undeseved three points.

Than Fisher's shot hits the rim (again, indisputable from the replay) and the clock wasn't reset. If it had been, the Lakers would have been able to run out the clock if the *purs didn't foul (which they would have) and the Lakers add probably another one or two points to their total.

My advice is learn the game, THEN post.

[kobyz]

i dont know which video you watch

[FromWayDowntown]

My advice is learn the game, THEN post.

. . . . that, or learn that the only conspiracies that infect the league are the insidious fixes aimed at keeping the Lakers down.

[td4mvp21]

Out of all the possible series the league could have rigged, the 2008 WCF was not one of them IMO.

[td4mvp21]

. . . . that, or learn that the only conspiracies that infect the league are the insidious fixes aimed at keeping the Lakers down.

:lol Apparently so.

[picnroll]

. . . . that, or learn that the only conspiracies that infect the league are the insidious fixes aimed at keeping the Lakers down.
LakerLuny has never seen a single call that favored the Lakers. :lol

[Robinzine]

Kiss my asterisk, Rome, little punk.

[Booharv]

Jim Rome's still alive?

[FrostKing]

https://youtu.be/cxTjOPImyts

[lefty]

To be fair, the refs also screwed the Lakers in game 5