What a Beautiful Day in Iraq... "We have no fear."

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

A scant 35 dead, 8 of 13 million registered voters cast their ballots. Iraqi voters and soldiers dancing in the street, children playing...

Somewhere Osama, Zarqawi, and NbaDan are crying.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

I think I need to add CNN to that list, Wolf Blitzer sounds depressed. :spin

[MannyIsGod]

60 percent turnout isn't something i'd throw a party over just yet. neither is a "scant" 35 dead.

All in all, i hope it turns out well, but I don't think thats a huge turnout.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

It's bigger than what we had in America.

35 is a small number considering the assholes over there were saying the streets would flow with the blood of voters. I'm not demeaning those who died, just that all the talk of 400 suicide bombers, streets filled with blood, yada yada yada, and then what actually happened today proved a couple of things:

1. Iraqis are getting tired of the insurgency's bullshit
2. The pathetically inflated numbers of "insurgents" claimed by Dan and other whackos is way off
3. The transitioning American security posture, Iraqis in the front with US advisors, is working.
4. More people got out to vote today in Iraq, with threats of violence and death, than got out to vote in our last presidential election (speaking in terms of percentage).

It reminds me a lot of Afghanistan. All those threats by Osama, then when push came to shove election day, teh insurgents could only muster a weak wimper.

[whottt]

60 percent turnout isn't something i'd throw a party over just yet. neither is a "scant" 35 dead.

All in all, i hope it turns out well, but I don't think thats a huge turnout.

I'm sorry Manny but you have just verified everything I have suspected about those that oppose this war...you just don't have a clue man.

That would be one of the highest turnouts in US history...and they did it under threat of death and with individuals using harsh intimidation tactics.

For the record...63% is the best American turnout...and no one was being threatened with death...

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

And by the way Manny, I think you need to adjust your death total.

9 of those were the suicide bombers, and I won't give those assholes the credit of negatively impacting the death total.

[violentkitten]

it warms my heart that 1000+ americans were killed so that aggiehoopsfan can celebrate on an online forum.

its easy to be patriotic when your ass isnt getting shot at or when your brother isnt coming back home in a box

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

You do realize that in the last 100 years we've lost over a million men exporting democracy, right?

I've got about 15 friends over there, my sister will be going at some point in the next year, and I may be joining her as well, so suck it.

[MannyIsGod]

I'm sorry Manny but you have just verified everything I have suspected about those that oppose this war...you just don't have a clue man.

That would be one of the highest turnouts in US history...and they did it under threat of death and with individuals using harsh intimidation tactics.

For the record...63% is the best American turnout...and no one was being threatened with death...

For the record, contries coming into democracy on their own display much larger voter turnouts than those here in the United States.

Please, we are the poster child for people who don't care what the government does and do nothing about it, I hardly think using our figures as a baseline is setting the bar very high.

You wan't some good voter turnouts? You won't find Iraq or the US on the liste below.

1. Burundi 97.3% (1993)
2. Tunisia 94.9% (1994)
3. Singapore 94.5% (1993)
4. Cyprus 93.4% (1998)
5. Seychelles 93.3% (2001)
6. Uruguay 91.8% (1999)
7. Angola 91.2% (1992)
8. Chile 90.6% (1999)
9. Tajikistan 88.3% (1994)
10. Iceland 85.9% (1996)
11. Kazakhstan 85.8% (1999)
12. Kenya 83.9% (1997)
13. Belarus 83.9% (2001)
14. Sierra Leone 81.4% (2002)
15. Peru 81.4% (2001)
16. Philippines 81.3% (1998)
17. Palau 81.2% (2000)
18. Korea, South 80.6% (1997)
19. Paraguay 80.5% (1998)
20. Gambia, The 80.0% (1996)
21. France 79.7% (2002)
22. Brazil 79.5% (2002)

BTW, some of those countries, especially the African ones, live in simmilar conditions, so suck it.
23. Azerbaijan 78.9% (1998)
24. Israel 78.7% (1999)
25. Argentina 78.6% (1999)

[violentkitten]

exporting democracy what a great fucking euphemism. what did we export to vietnam?

oh so now youre living vicariously through your friends. sign up and put your own ass on the line.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Vietnam was a failure we should have never been involved in, we were doomed from the start.

Not living vicariously through anybody, just stating I do have people I care about over there, and to a man they say they are doing the right thing.

Why don't you sign your ass up? If you don't, you have no business questioning me on the same.

[violentkitten]

because maybe i think it was a sham war and the present administration is trying to come up with this spreading democracy bullshit to try to salvage something out of what was an unnecessary war fought on what turned out to be an erroneous pretext

ps...funny how john kerry was pilliored a few months back because he had pointed out once upon a time that nam was a mistake, now beetle bailey agrees

[violentkitten]

also we entered ww2 because we were attacked. so now we are down to ww1 which was more about us not liking the huns as much as the other parties

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

So, the military does more than handle Iraq.

Vietnam was a mistake in how we fought it, and how we let propaganda (press) distort what was going on.

The Vietnamese credit our press as being the biggest reason they won, and admit that in reality they were losing on the ground.

The Kerry criticism lies in the fact that he turned his back on his fellow troops and committed treason, whether you like it or not.

My dad fought over there, and he and all his buddies think Kerry's a POS.

[violentkitten]

ever stop to think that the current administration distorts shit too?

look at all the shit that came out about nam and what the brass and white house really were doing.

kerry did what he thought was right in order to get the troops home.

why are you so willing to be an apologist for the insanely rich (not upper middle class) and powerful?

[whottt]

BTW, some of those countries, especially the African ones, live in simmilar conditions, so suck it.


Not the same thing...fucking Iceland?

You put a few legitimate examples out there...but by and large there is not a country on that list that is the same situation as what we have in Iraq...

You notice none of those countries were Arab countries right, particularly Arab countries that have had the shit kicked out of them by the US Military? Figure it out. Then maybe you'll have a better understanding of this war

[whottt]

ever stop to think that the current administration distorts shit too?

look at all the shit that came out about nam and what the brass and white house really were doing.

kerry did what he thought was right in order to get the troops home.

why are you so willing to be an apologist for the insanely rich (not upper middle class) and powerful?


http://www.jordansplace.net/homepage/shutup.jpg

[violentkitten]

so this war was fought to teach those dirty smelly a-rabs a lesson?

or maybe it was fought so american and not french oil companies got access to saddams oil, in order to improve this countrys strategic position in the me

[violentkitten]

how cute whottt can post images whod thunk it?

[whottt]

My bad, instead of posting an image offering you a cup of SHUT THE FUCK UP I should have offered you what you really need...

http://q7.com/~bacchus/thorazine.jpg

All kitting aside.

[violentkitten]

was that supposed to be funny?

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Um, we've fought in much more than WWI, WWII, and Vietnam over the last 100 years.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

why are you so willing to be an apologist for the insanely rich (not upper middle class) and powerful?

You do realize that there are insanely rich and powerful on the left too, right? Why are you so willing to apologize for those assholes?

[violentkitten]

uh where did those one million war dead come from beetle bailey?

in regards to your other query perhaps i am not "on the left" as you suggest. yet why might some of the rich and powerful be on that side? think hard now

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Um, probably because rich people are liberals too.

Look at Kerry.

[violentkitten]

why would rich people support liberals unless liberal politicians also gave them what they want?

everythings for sale.

[Useruser666]

Wasn't the Iraq turnout 100% and voted 100% for Saddam? :lol