Basketball Lesson 6-17-08

[cajunspur]

Today we will discussing blocking out and rebounding:

- First off once the ball is shot whoevers man takes the shot should yell "shot" to let the other defenders know they need to block out.

- Each defender needs to find their man, get a hand on him, then turn and put their butt on him and start to block out.

- They should have their attention focused on the goal and not just watch the ball. When blocking out, you should drive your butt into their torso, have a wide base with your knees bent and your arms in front of you. This allows you to be ready for the ball, and not allow the offensive player to get around you.

- You should obviously jump for the rebound. If you do not maintain contact with your blockout, you will never get an over the back call.

- If you do all this correct, and catch the ball, you should "chin it" meaning protect the ball under your chin with your elbows out. If you bring the ball down, you will get it knocked away or stolen.

- Once you get the rebound, if you are not the point guard, you need to pivot and find the outlet man in order to start the fast break.

[xtremesteven33]

not as good as the other lessons.

[cajunspur]

not as good as the other lessons.

Is there anything you would like to learn about in future lessons?

[xtremesteven33]

why not some WNBA stuff?

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

:lol

[SpurOutofTownFan]

this isn't even close

[cajunspur]

why not some WNBA stuff?

:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol

The WNBA lesson would be on how to miss a layup, dribble of your foot or how to cry when you lose.

[cajunspur]

this isn't even close

This isnt close to the other lessons?

[slowchild25]

:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol

The WNBA lesson would be on how to miss a layup, dribble of your foot or how to cry when you lose.

Sasha Vujacic already has his masters in this.

[Borosai]

Boxing* out.

[cajunspur]

Boxing* out.

I have heard both terms used

[SAtown]

Why haven't you registered with a new user name?

[cajunspur]

Why haven't you registered with a new user name?

Why would I?

[Borosai]

I have heard both terms used

I'm sure, but if you're gonna pretend to give lessons, you might as well pretend that "boxing out" is the more common term. :bike:

[JamStone]

-Defenders don't always box out "their" man. Whether it's man defense or zone, the more prevailing opinion is that as soon as a shot goes up, defenders box out the closest player to them, regardless if he's "their" man or not.

-You don't watch the goal. You watch the basketball. Some shots can be airballs or deflected and don't even hit the rim. Watching the goal in those instances is useless. Focus and attention should be on the basketball when boxing out and rebounding.

-When a defender bends his knees and widens his legs to get a lower base to box out, unless the player being boxed out is much, much shorter than the defender, the defender won't be driving their ass into their "torso." The ass will be pushed into the hips or thighs of the player being boxed out. Not the torso.

-When boxing out, you don't keep both arms in front of you. At least one arm, sometimes both, should be kept back until the very last moment when the ball is ready to be grabbed to ensure you seal your man with the box out. If you don't seal the player being boxed out properly, they can use a number of techniques to slide you out of the way. Arms should not be kept in front of a player boxing out until the ball is actually ready to be rebounded.

-Players boxing out should not always jump for a rebound. The purpose of some box-outs is not to rebound the ball but to prevent the player being boxed out to not be able to rebound the ball. Especially when the player being boxed out is much bigger and very good at rebounding, the player boxing out should not always jump for the rebound. In those instances, preventing the player being boxed out is the primary responsibility and the player boxing him out is banking on his teammates being able to rebound the ball. This type of boxing out has often been used against players like Shaq, Yao Ming, Dwight Howard, and the like.

-I've never been a huge advocate on what you describe as "chinning" the ball after rebounding it. First of all, with elbows out, you can injure a player trying to swipe the ball. While some might not mind that, it can also lead to a flagrant for swinging elbows and loss of possession. Secondly, "chinning" the basketball can also lead to injury of the player holding the ball. A player trying to swipe the ball upward can cause the ball to hit the "CHIN" of the player holding the rebounded ball. I subscribe to the rule that you just secure the rebound with both arms around the basketball, not elbows out and not "chinning" it. Instead of just your hands holding the ball, have your forearms and upperarms surrounding and securing the basketball until it's safe to dribble or pass.


You have some decent generalized ideas of boxing out and rebounding, but they are not all the best pieces of advice.

[rAm]

-Defenders don't always box out "their" man. Whether it's man defense or zone, the more prevailing opinion is that as soon as a shot goes up, defenders box out the closest player to them, regardless if he's "their" man or not.

-You don't watch the goal. You watch the basketball. Some shots can be airballs or deflected and don't even hit the rim. Watching the goal in those instances is useless. Focus and attention should be on the basketball when boxing out and rebounding.

-When a defender bends his knees and widens his legs to get a lower base to box out, unless the player being boxed out is much, much shorter than the defender, the defender won't be driving their ass into their "torso." The ass will be pushed into the hips or thighs of the player being boxed out. Not the torso.

-When boxing out, you don't keep both arms in front of you. At least one arm, sometimes both, should be kept back until the very last moment when the ball is ready to be grabbed to ensure you seal your man with the box out. If you don't seal the player being boxed out properly, they can use a number of techniques to slide you out of the way. Arms should not be kept in front of a player boxing out until the ball is actually ready to be rebounded.

-Players boxing out should not always jump for a rebound. The purpose of some box-outs is not to rebound the ball but to prevent the player being boxed out to not be able to rebound the ball. Especially when the player being boxed out is much bigger and very good at rebounding, the player boxing out should not always jump for the rebound. In those instances, preventing the player being boxed out is the primary responsibility and the player boxing him out is banking on his teammates being able to rebound the ball. This type of boxing out has often been used against players like Shaq, Yao Ming, Dwight Howard, and the like.

-I've never been a huge advocate on what you describe as "chinning" the ball after rebounding it. First of all, with elbows out, you can injure a player trying to swipe the ball. While some might not mind that, it can also lead to a flagrant for swinging elbows and loss of possession. Secondly, "chinning" the basketball can also lead to injury of the player holding the ball. A player trying to swipe the ball upward can cause the ball to hit the "CHIN" of the player holding the rebounded ball. I subscribe to the rule that you just secure the rebound with both arms around the basketball, not elbows out and not "chinning" it. Instead of just your hands holding the ball, have your forearms and upperarms surrounding and securing the basketball until it's safe to dribble or pass.


You have some decent generalized ideas of boxing out and rebounding, but they are not all the best pieces of advice.


ouch, owned

[cajunspur]

1 -Defenders don't always box out "their" man. Whether it's man defense or zone, the more prevailing opinion is that as soon as a shot goes up, defenders box out the closest player to them, regardless if he's "their" man or not.

2 -You don't watch the goal. You watch the basketball. Some shots can be airballs or deflected and don't even hit the rim. Watching the goal in those instances is useless. Focus and attention should be on the basketball when boxing out and rebounding.

3 -When a defender bends his knees and widens his legs to get a lower base to box out, unless the player being boxed out is much, much shorter than the defender, the defender won't be driving their ass into their "torso." The ass will be pushed into the hips or thighs of the player being boxed out. Not the torso.

4 -When boxing out, you don't keep both arms in front of you. At least one arm, sometimes both, should be kept back until the very last moment when the ball is ready to be grabbed to ensure you seal your man with the box out. If you don't seal the player being boxed out properly, they can use a number of techniques to slide you out of the way. Arms should not be kept in front of a player boxing out until the ball is actually ready to be rebounded.

5 -Players boxing out should not always jump for a rebound. The purpose of some box-outs is not to rebound the ball but to prevent the player being boxed out to not be able to rebound the ball. Especially when the player being boxed out is much bigger and very good at rebounding, the player boxing out should not always jump for the rebound. In those instances, preventing the player being boxed out is the primary responsibility and the player boxing him out is banking on his teammates being able to rebound the ball. This type of boxing out has often been used against players like Shaq, Yao Ming, Dwight Howard, and the like.

6 -I've never been a huge advocate on what you describe as "chinning" the ball after rebounding it. First of all, with elbows out, you can injure a player trying to swipe the ball. While some might not mind that, it can also lead to a flagrant for swinging elbows and loss of possession. Secondly, "chinning" the basketball can also lead to injury of the player holding the ball. A player trying to swipe the ball upward can cause the ball to hit the "CHIN" of the player holding the rebounded ball. I subscribe to the rule that you just secure the rebound with both arms around the basketball, not elbows out and not "chinning" it. Instead of just your hands holding the ball, have your forearms and upperarms surrounding and securing the basketball until it's safe to dribble or pass.


You have some decent generalized ideas of boxing out and rebounding, but they are not all the best pieces of advice.

Some decent points. I have numbered them, so I can address them each separately.

1. I was talking more about man to man defense. 90% of the time in man D you block out your man. In a zone, yes you block out or box out the closest player.

2. I see where you are going with this. My point is when players watch the ball, they have a tendency to not box out while they are doing it. They usually watch the ball and have the offensive player go around them. I can understand your train of thought if executed perfectly, as well as mine.

3.Semantics

4. I have always taught to find the man you are blocking out, then get your butt on him. Keep your elbows out with your hands in front. Don't grab him, but if he tries to get around you, keep your arms extended wide, so he is unable to.

5. Very true. I was talking more about a general rule for boxing out, but yes in some instances that is definitely the case. I played against quite a few players in high school that went on to play at LSU and this technique was used.

6. I disagree with you here. I don't advocate swinging your arms, but your space is your space. If you pivot, you are allowed that space with your elbows. If a defender takes an elbow to the chin, I guarantee you he won't go after your rebound again. I have never seen one of my teammates or players get injured while chinning the ball. I have seen players try it your wall and get jump balls called. I have also back in my glory days gotten jumped balls called to players cradling the ball like that.

Overall you make some good points. You seem to know a lot about the game. Have you read my other lessons?

[cajunspur]

I'm sure, but if you're gonna pretend to give lessons, you might as well pretend that "boxing out" is the more common term. :bike:

Different teams have different terminologies. It is the same thing. Nice try being a dick though. I don't pretend to know anything. I actually know it.

[td4mvp21]

Some decent points. I have numbered them, so I can address them each separately.

1. I was talking more about man to man defense. 90% of the time in man D you block out your man. In a zone, yes you block out or box out the closest player.

2. I see where you are going with this. My point is when players watch the ball, they have a tendency to not box out while they are doing it. They usually watch the ball and have the offensive player go around them. I can understand your train of thought if executed perfectly, as well as mine.

3.Semantics

4. I have always taught to find the man you are blocking out, then get your butt on him. Keep your elbows out with your hands in front. Don't grab him, but if he tries to get around you, keep your arms extended wide, so he is unable to.

5. Very true. I was talking more about a general rule for boxing out, but yes in some instances that is definitely the case. I played against quite a few players in high school that went on to play at LSU and this technique was used.

6. I disagree with you here. I don't advocate swinging your arms, but your space is your space. If you pivot, you are allowed that space with your elbows. If a defender takes an elbow to the chin, I guarantee you he won't go after your rebound again. I have never seen one of my teammates or players get injured while chinning the ball. I have seen players try it your wall and get jump balls called. I have also back in my glory days gotten jumped balls called to players cradling the ball like that.

Overall you make some good points. You seem to know a lot about the game. Have you read my other lessons?

You do know Jamstone is a woman, right?

[cajunspur]

You do know Jamstone is a woman, right?

Did her husband write that for her?

[JamStone]

You do know Jamstone is a woman, right?


When did this happen?

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

:lmao
When did this happen?

[Borosai]

Here's another tip:

- If your opponent sucessfully boxes you out, and gets the rebound, you should try to save face by reaching down and grabbing his balls (remember to maintain a good grip for at least one second). This simple, yet very effective act will discourage that player from rebounding the ball next time.

[cajunspur]

Jamstone no response to my response to you?