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xrayzebra
06-21-2008, 09:07 AM
I find it strange that Obama is already reaching into little bag of stuff and pulling out the race card this early. I thought he would wait longer. But, nope. He is already crying, I am black and they are using it against me.:cry:cry:cry:loser



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Obama says Republicans will use race to stoke fear
Fri Jun 20, 2008 7:19pm EDT

By Caren Bohan

JACKSONVILLE, Florida (Reuters) - Democratic presidential contender Barack Obama said on Friday he expects Republicans to highlight the fact that he is black as part of an effort to make voters afraid of him.

"It is going to be very difficult for Republicans to run on their stewardship of the economy or their outstanding foreign policy," Obama told a fundraiser in Jacksonville, Florida. "We know what kind of campaign they're going to run. They're going to try to make you afraid.

"They're going to try to make you afraid of me. He's young and inexperienced and he's got a funny name. And did I mention he's black?"

He said he was also set for Republicans to say "he's got a feisty wife," in trying to attack his wife Michelle.

"We know the strategy because they've already shown their cards. Ultimately I think the American people recognize that old stuff hasn't moved us forward. That old stuff just divides us," he said.

Obama, born to a white mother from Kansas and a black father from Kenya, has cast himself as a candidate who can bridge divides within the country, including those involving race.

It has been rare for him to bring up the topic during his presidential bid. In March he gave a widely praised speech on the subject after receiving criticism over racially charged comments by his longtime pastor.

Obama, who faces Republican John McCain in the November election, would be the first black U.S. president.

(Editing by Xavier Briand)

Mr. Peabody
06-21-2008, 09:30 AM
I find it strange that Obama is already reaching into little bag of stuff and pulling out the race card this early. I thought he would wait longer. But, nope. He is already crying, I am black and they are using it against me.:cry:cry:cry:loser


You're right. Why would he expect his race to be used as an issue this election?:rolleyes

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jochhejaam
06-21-2008, 04:47 PM
You're right. Why would he expect his race to be used as an issue this election?:rolleyes

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Spare us the theatrics Peabody, that pathetic merchandising is nothing more that an abuse of Free Enterprise, an unworthy reply to Obama's racially incendiary rhetoric.
Get back with us when McCain says something similar to Obama's "typical white person" remark, or says something that inflames the passions of racism, like this most recent comment made by Barack.

Obama the "Uniter" reveals himself as Obama the Polarizer.

ChumpDumper
06-21-2008, 04:50 PM
Whitey is indignant.

Aggie Hoopsfan
06-21-2008, 06:43 PM
You're right. Why would he expect his race to be used as an issue this election?:rolleyes

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So there's idiots out there trying to make a quick buck. I bet if I looked I could find similar derisive shit for W.

Idiots aside, this is the typical liberal playbook. Bitch and moan about any attack against yourself or your party, but on the other side of things you've got no problem trashing the other side.

JohnnyMarzetti
06-22-2008, 12:12 AM
Republicans know how to play dirty with the best of them. Hypocrites.

J.T.
06-22-2008, 03:22 AM
Republicans know how to play dirty with the best of them. Hypocrites.

There's nothing dirtier than a Republican.

Re-Animator
06-22-2008, 05:01 AM
It's called a Presidential Race?

v2freak
06-22-2008, 05:21 AM
I am wondering: how come when someone is half black and half white, he or she is generally considered to be black? I don't see people calling:

Tony Parker - white
Tiger Woods - asian
Halle Berry / Alicia Keys - white

Clandestino
06-22-2008, 08:16 AM
whatever colot you call him, we won't vote a black socialist into office

GaryJohnston
06-22-2008, 11:19 AM
I find it strange that Obama is already reaching into little bag of stuff and pulling out the race card this early. I thought he would wait longer. But, nope. He is already crying, I am black and they are using it against me.:cry:cry:cry:loser



Print | Close this window
Obama says Republicans will use race to stoke fear
Fri Jun 20, 2008 7:19pm EDT

By Caren Bohan

JACKSONVILLE, Florida (Reuters) - Democratic presidential contender Barack Obama said on Friday he expects Republicans to highlight the fact that he is black as part of an effort to make voters afraid of him.

"It is going to be very difficult for Republicans to run on their stewardship of the economy or their outstanding foreign policy," Obama told a fundraiser in Jacksonville, Florida. "We know what kind of campaign they're going to run. They're going to try to make you afraid.

"They're going to try to make you afraid of me. He's young and inexperienced and he's got a funny name. And did I mention he's black?"

He said he was also set for Republicans to say "he's got a feisty wife," in trying to attack his wife Michelle.

"We know the strategy because they've already shown their cards. Ultimately I think the American people recognize that old stuff hasn't moved us forward. That old stuff just divides us," he said.

Obama, born to a white mother from Kansas and a black father from Kenya, has cast himself as a candidate who can bridge divides within the country, including those involving race.

It has been rare for him to bring up the topic during his presidential bid. In March he gave a widely praised speech on the subject after receiving criticism over racially charged comments by his longtime pastor.

Obama, who faces Republican John McCain in the November election, would be the first black U.S. president.

(Editing by Xavier Briand)


Extreamly poor statements by Obama :nope

Its statements like this that make me afraid of him.

Wild Cobra
06-22-2008, 12:49 PM
whatever colot you call him, we won't vote a black socialist into office

People will say what they want. Color has no relevance to me. I won't vote for a socialist. Black, white, brown, yellow, green, blue... I don't care what color.

Hell no to socialists!

Wild Cobra
06-22-2008, 12:53 PM
Extreamly poor statements by Obama :nope

Its statements like this that make me afraid of him.

Get ready for more. It's him that's going to use race. Not McCain. He will claim over and over he is the underdog because of it, or something else. Truth is, there are very few people I know of that will not vote for a black man, or a white over a black. I only know one. However, I know several blacks who will vote black over white because of color. I probably know 20 times more whites than blacks too!

clambake
06-22-2008, 01:09 PM
Get ready for more. It's him that's going to use race. Not McCain. He will claim over and over he is the underdog because of it, or something else. Truth is, there are very few people I know of that will not vote for a black man, or a white over a black. I only know one. However, I know several blacks who will vote black over white because of color. I probably know 20 times more whites than blacks too!

you need a new disguise.

ElNono
06-22-2008, 01:42 PM
Get ready for more. It's him that's going to use race. Not McCain. He will claim over and over he is the underdog because of it, or something else. Truth is, there are very few people I know of that will not vote for a black man, or a white over a black. I only know one. However, I know several blacks who will vote black over white because of color. I probably know 20 times more whites than blacks too!

Take it for whatever is worth, but I've never lived in a country with black people before coming here, and one of the immediate things I noticed is how some of them have a chip on their shoulder about race.

boutons_
06-22-2008, 06:14 PM
"three in 10 acknowledge feelings of racial prejudice, according to a new Washington Post (http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/related/topic/The+Washington+Post+Company?tid=informline)-ABC News (http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/related/topic/ABC+Inc.?tid=informline) poll."

"More than six in 10 African Americans now rate race relations as "not so good" or "poor," while 53 percent of whites hold more positive views."

( hmm, wonder why that is? )

"just over half of whites in the new poll called Obama a "risky" choice for the White House, while two-thirds said McCain is a "safe" pick."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/06/21/AR2008062101825_pf.html

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Repug slime-bots/swiftboaters got some good results so far, much more to come.

America The Beautiful will do itself proud for voting against that Muslim nigra just because he's black. The world will take note, as if any American cared.

McFlop is the "safe pick"? The senile motherfucker is an emotional basketcase, totally unstable, quite apart from his senility. And I have no doubt he will bomb Iran if dubya doesn't. McFlop isn't his own man, he can't fucking remember what he says from day to day.

PEP
06-22-2008, 08:22 PM
Obama was raised his entire life in white households you'd think he'd talk more about that instead of trying to get jiggy with his blackness.

ElNono
06-23-2008, 05:39 PM
Didn't take long for McCain to play the terrorism card...

LINK (http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/06/23/mccain-adviser-apologizes-for-terrorism-remark/)

McCain Adviser Regrets Terrorism Remark
By MICHAEL COOPER

FRESNO, Calif. – A senior adviser to Senator John McCain apologized Monday for saying in a magazine interview that another terrorist attack in the United States would “be a big advantage” for Mr. McCain in the upcoming election.

The adviser, Charlie Black, was quoted in an interview with Fortune magazine describing the assassination of Benazir Bhutto in December was an “unfortunate event” but adding that: “But his knowledge and ability to talk about it re-emphasized that this is the guy who’s ready to be commander in chief. And it helped us.” The magazine then added: “As would, Black concedes with startling candor after we raise the issue, another terrorist attack on U.S. soil. ‘Certainly it would be a big advantage to him,’ says Black.’’

Mr. McCain condemned the statement at a news conference here. Mr. Black said in a statement: “I deeply regret the comments, they were inappropriate, I recognize that John McCain has devoted his entire adult life to protecting his country and placing its security before every other consideration.’’

Asked about the statement to Fortune at his news conference here, Mr. McCain said: “I cannot imagine why he would say it. It’s not true. I’ve worked tirelessly since 9/11 to prevent another attack on the United States of America. My record is very clear. The Armed Services Committee, and pieces of legislation, sponsoring with Joe Lieberman the 9/11 Commission so we could find out the causes and how to fix the challenges that we face, to fix the security of our nation. I cannot imagine it. So I would If he said that, and I do not know the context, I strenuously disagree.’’

Updated | 5:50 p.m.: Bill Burton, a spokesman for the Obama campaign, weighed in with a statement: “Barack Obama welcomes a debate about terrorism with John McCain, who has fully supported the Bush policies that have taken our eye off of Al Qaeda, failed to bring Osama bin Laden to justice, and made us less safe. The fact that John McCain’s top adviser says that a terrorist attack on American soil would be a ‘big advantage’ for their political campaign is a complete disgrace, and is exactly the kind of politics that needs to change. Barack Obama will turn the page on these failed policies and this cynical and divisive brand of politics so that we can unite this nation around a common purpose to finish the fight against Al Qaeda.”

Wild Cobra
06-23-2008, 08:42 PM
Take it for whatever is worth, but I've never lived in a country with black people before coming here, and one of the immediate things I noticed is how some of them have a chip on their shoulder about race.

Absolutely.

It is them who are rascists, not most the rest of us.

I am sick and tired of it myself. I wish I could live in a color blind society.

Nbadan
06-24-2008, 12:26 AM
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JoeChalupa
06-24-2008, 10:39 AM
I'm voting for Barack because I feel he best represents what I want. Not a perfect candidate but he's my candidate. Good luck to the rest of you.

101A
06-24-2008, 11:04 AM
An attack on the U.S. would be GOOD for McCain?

Then Americans are idiots.

The fact that there HASN'T been an attack for 6+ years of a Republican WH OUGHT to work in his favor.

ChumpDumper
06-24-2008, 11:22 AM
An attack on the U.S. would be GOOD for McCain?

Then Americans are idiots.

The fact that there HASN'T been an attack for 6+ years of a Republican WH OUGHT to work in his favor.Well, Republicans counted on Americans' thinking Saddam was behind 9/11, so this isn't too far fetched. Fear and ignorance are tools for politicians of any party.

Viva Las Espuelas
06-24-2008, 11:35 AM
An attack on the U.S. would be GOOD for McCain?

Then Americans are idiots.

The fact that there HASN'T been an attack for 6+ years of a Republican WH OUGHT to work in his favor.if barack gets in i guarantee another attack on us within a year. i'm not praying for it, but i feel that will happen.

obamessiah wants talks :lmao

Viva Las Espuelas
06-24-2008, 11:36 AM
i'm surprised The unEnlightened One hasn't pounced on Imus this morning.

ChumpDumper
06-24-2008, 11:43 AM
if barack gets in i guarantee another attack on us within a year. i'm not praying for it, but i feel that will happen.

obamessiah wants talks :lmaoIran is going to attack us?

Spur-Addict
06-24-2008, 11:47 AM
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1656880303867390173

Purely economic, but economics filters down to everything. I know you have the time, enjoy. :toast

:wakeup

Oh, this has nothing to do with 9/11 or any other shit like that. It's just about money, taxes, etc. But, in the end, it touches everything.

Oh, Gee!!
06-24-2008, 11:50 AM
So, Obama warning a potential fund-raiser that the republicans are gonna play the race card equals Obama himself playing the race card? Interesting.

Viva Las Espuelas
06-24-2008, 12:05 PM
Iran is going to attack us?not them. they'll attack israel before they attack us. which ahmadinejad has said. just like when hitler said he was going to do before he did it.

ChumpDumper
06-24-2008, 12:06 PM
not them. they'll attack israel before they attack us. which ahmadinejad has said. just like when hitler said he was going to do before he did it.So we won't be attacked.

Viva Las Espuelas
06-24-2008, 12:07 PM
So, Obama warning a potential fund-raiser that the republicans are gonna play the race card equals Obama himself playing the race card? Interesting.
what else do you call it? "nah nah na-nee na-nee boo boo i beat you to it"? will that make you feel better? :rolleyes

Oh, Gee!!
06-24-2008, 12:08 PM
what else do you call it?

a fair warning

Viva Las Espuelas
06-24-2008, 12:10 PM
So we won't be attacked.
i'm not getting in to your pointless inquisitions. read and comprehend.
i'm saying we'll be attacked. not saying who in particular, but iran isn't that stupid to be one of the stupid ones. you can mentally masturbate whatever you want from that. i don't know what other shade of black and white i can show you to have you read and comprehend my statement for the second time.

Viva Las Espuelas
06-24-2008, 12:13 PM
a fair warning
so why bring it up in the first place when only the other democratic candidate, hilary, brought up the race issue. show me where republicans or any other party other then the "do-what-you-want, say-what-you-want, it's ok" democrats play the race card..........or even hint that it will be played.

Wild Cobra
06-24-2008, 12:13 PM
Well, Republicans counted on Americans' thinking Saddam was behind 9/11, so this isn't too far fetched. Fear and ignorance are tools for politicians of any party.

You know Chump, I give you credit for being much smarter than most here, although a total ass. If you believe that, I have to reduce my assessment of your intelligence.

ChumpDumper
06-24-2008, 12:15 PM
i'm not getting in to your pointless inquisitions. read and comprehend.
i'm saying we'll be attacked. not saying who in particular, but iran isn't that stupid to be one of the stupid ones. you can mentally masturbate whatever you want from that. i don't know what other shade of black and white i can show you to have you read and comprehend my statement for the second time.Who will attack us?

You already said it wouldn't be Iran --and that is the government which is brought up when discussing Obama's call for talks.

So from whom are you guaranteeing an attack?

ChumpDumper
06-24-2008, 12:17 PM
You know Chump, I give you credit for being much smarter than most here, although a total ass. If you believe that, I have to reduce my assessment of your intelligence.I wholeheartedly believe fear and ignorance of the general population are tools of politicians.

Viva Las Espuelas
06-24-2008, 12:18 PM
Who will attack us?

You already said it wouldn't be Iran --and that is the government which is brought up when discussing Obama's call for talks.

So from whom are you guaranteeing an attack?
masturbate away, parents' basement dweller.

Oh, Gee!!
06-24-2008, 12:20 PM
so why bring it up in the first place when only the other democratic candidate, hilary, brought up the race issue. show me where republicans or any other party other then the "do-what-you-want, say-what-you-want, it's ok" democrats play the race card..........or even hint that it will be played.

this is the general election campaign now; this is the time when the republicans will begin their direct and indirect attacks against Obama in earnest. some of those attacks might be racial, and Obama is letting his fundraisers know that they should keep an eye open for that.

nevermind. you're daft.

ChumpDumper
06-24-2008, 12:20 PM
masturbate away, parents' basement dweller.Look, you're the one guaranteeing an attack if Obama becomes president.

From whom?

Wild Cobra
06-24-2008, 12:25 PM
I wholeheartedly believe fear and ignorance are tools of politicians.

I believe that too, especially the demonrats to get votes from the libtards. The republicans do it some also, but not as much. That wasn't the point. Saddam was never cited as the reason for 9/11. The US security changed due to 9/11 and it was time to take him out. He had repeatedly violated agreements and UN resoltions. He was friends by proxy with terrorists and had the resources to become a supplier of WMD even if the never did. His actions lead the entire world to believe he still had significant WMD. We all know that, any on paying attention. It is believed he defied the inspectors because he still wanted other Arab nations to believe he could cause them serious harm if needed. It looks like he had nothing to hid, so why did he?

Saddam played the wrong game with the wrong president and lost. If he had only come clean.

ChumpDumper
06-24-2008, 12:30 PM
Saddam was never cited as the reason for 9/11.He was repeatedly linked to Osama Bin Laden and Al Qaeda by the Bush administration. Hell, Yonivore is still trying to link them to this day even after Bush admitted the link doesn't exist.
Saddam played the wrong game with the wrong president and lost. If he had only come clean.It's a fair bet we would have invaded anyway. Once the forces were in place and the promises to various groups were made, the whole operation took on a momentum of its own.

Viva Las Espuelas
06-24-2008, 12:31 PM
this is the general election campaign now; this is the time when the republicans will begin their direct and indirect attacks against Obama in earnest. some of those attacks might be racial, and Obama is letting his fundraisers know that they should keep an eye open for that.

nevermind. you're daft.
i guess you're a programmed obamicon. daft, indeed. and no i don't endorse mccain.

Wild Cobra
06-24-2008, 12:40 PM
He was repeatedly linked to Osama Bin Laden and Al Qaeda by the Bush administration. Hell, Yonivore is still trying to link them to this day even after Bush admitted the link doesn't exist.It's a fair bet we would have invaded anyway. Once the forces were in place and the promises to various groups were made, the whole operation took on a momentum of its own.

Being linked to known terrorists and being behind 9/11 are very different. Being linked is why we demanded he come clean on his inventories. When he didn't, we had to assume the worse from known intelligence.

My reponce was to your statement that republicans believe Saddam was behind 9/11. I'm sure there are some. But is wasn't because republican politicians said or implied he was. As dishonest as they are at times, I never heard anything that came close. If some did, it's pretty isolated. Far from common.

ChumpDumper
06-24-2008, 12:47 PM
My reponce was to your statement that republicans believe Saddam was behind 9/11. I'm sure there are some.On this very board.
But is wasn't because republican politicians said or implied he was.That is exactly why the ones on this board believe that.
As dishonest as they are at times, I never heard anything that came close. If some did, it's pretty isolated. Far from common.They played up the linkage for two years and did nothing to separate the two until well after the invasion of Iraq. It was very common.

PEP
06-24-2008, 01:27 PM
He was repeatedly linked to Osama Bin Laden and Al Qaeda by the Bush administration. Hell, Yonivore is still trying to link them to this day even after Bush admitted the link doesn't exist.It's a fair bet we would have invaded anyway. Once the forces were in place and the promises to various groups were made, the whole operation took on a momentum of its own.
Here ya go sport.

http://www.knwe.org/Kurdistani%20Nwe/18-6-2008/Kurdistani%20Nwe.htm

ChumpDumper
06-24-2008, 01:44 PM
Go ahead and tell me what you are on about.

"Saddam was a bad guy" perhaps?

No shit. That's not the issue here, "sport."

ElNono
06-24-2008, 03:34 PM
Evangelist accuses Obama of 'distorting' Bible
From Alexander Mooney

(CNN) -- A top U.S. evangelical leader is accusing Sen. Barack Obama of deliberately distorting the Bible and taking a "fruitcake interpretation" of the U.S. Constitution.

In comments to be aired on his radio show Tuesday, Focus on the Family founder James Dobson criticizes the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee for comments he made in a June 2006 speech to the liberal Christian group Call to Renewal.

In the speech, Obama suggested that it would be impractical to govern based solely on the word of the Bible, noting that some passages suggest slavery is permissible and eating shellfish is disgraceful.

"Which passages of scripture should guide our public policy?" Obama asked in the speech. "Should we go with Leviticus, which suggests slavery is OK and that eating shellfish is an abomination? Or we could go with Deuteronomy, which suggests stoning your child if he strays from the faith? Or should we just stick to the Sermon on the Mount?

"So before we get carried away, let's read our Bible now," Obama said, to cheers. "Folks haven't been reading their Bible."

He also called Jesus' Sermon on the Mount "a passage that is so radical that it's doubtful that our Defense Department would survive its application."

In the comments to be aired Tuesday, Dobson said Obama should not be referencing antiquated dietary codes and passages from the Old Testament that are no longer relevant to the teachings of the New Testament.

"I think he's deliberately distorting the traditional understanding of the Bible to fit his own world view, his own confused theology," Dobson said, adding that Obama is "dragging biblical understanding through the gutter."

Responding to the comments, Joshua DuBois, Obama's national director of religious affairs, said the Illinois senator is "committed to reaching out to people of faith and standing up for American families."

"A full reading of his 2006 Call to Renewal speech shows just that," DuBois said. "Obama is proud to have the support of millions of Americans of faith and looks forward to working across religious lines to bring our country together."

The comments come shortly after DuBois called Focus on the Family to suggest a meeting with the group ahead of the Democratic Party's convention in late August, according to Tom Minnery, the organization's senior vice president for government and public policy.

Minnery wouldn't say whether any such meeting is planned but said the group is open to it.

Dobson also takes aim at Obama for suggesting in the speech that those motivated by religion should attempt to appeal to broader segments of the population by not just framing their arguments around religious precepts.

"Democracy demands that the religiously motivated translate their concerns into universal rather than religion-specific values," Obama said. "It requires their proposals be subject to argument and amenable to reason."

Dobson said the suggestion is an attempt to lead by the "lowest common denominator of morality."

"Am I required in a democracy to conform my efforts in the political arena to his bloody notion of what is right with regard to the lives of tiny babies?" he asked. "What he's trying to say here is, unless everybody agrees, we have no right to fight for what we believe.

"What the senator is saying there, in essence, is that 'I can't seek to pass legislation, for example, that bans partial-birth abortion, because there are people in the culture who don't see that as a moral issue,' " Dobson said. "And if I can't get everyone to agree with me, than it is undemocratic to try to pass legislation that I find offensive to the Scripture. Now, that is a fruitcake interpretation of the Constitution."

According to Minnery, Dobson was particularly offended by a portion of the speech in which Obama mentioned evangelical leader and the Rev. Al Sharpton.

In the speech, Obama said, "Even if we did have only Christians in our midst, if we expelled every non-Christian from the United States of America, whose Christianity would we teach in the schools? Would we go with James Dobson's or Al Sharpton's?"

In response, Minnery said, "Many people have called [Sharpton] a black racist, and [Obama] is somehow equating [Dobson] with that and racial bigotry."

Dobson's comments follow the Obama campaign's recent efforts to increase its appeal among evangelicals, many of whom have expressed reservations about supporting Sen. John McCain, the presumptive Republican nominee.

Dobson himself has said he will not vote for the Arizona senator.

Minnery said he doesn't expect Obama to make inroads into the reliably Republican voting bloc.

"Evangelicals are people who take Bible interpretation very seriously, and the sort of speech he gave shows that he is worlds away in the views of evangelicals," he said.

Minnery also said Dobson will probably continue his criticism of Obama.

"Given our fact that religion seems to be such a relevant topic in this election again, we will defend the evangelical view vigorously," he said.

LINK (http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/06/24/evangelical.vote/index.html)

xrayzebra
06-24-2008, 04:26 PM
Evangelist accuses Obama of 'distorting' Bible
From Alexander Mooney

(CNN) -- A top U.S. evangelical leader is accusing Sen. Barack Obama of deliberately distorting the Bible and taking a "fruitcake interpretation" of the U.S. Constitution.

In comments to be aired on his radio show Tuesday, Focus on the Family founder James Dobson criticizes the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee for comments he made in a June 2006 speech to the liberal Christian group Call to Renewal.

In the speech, Obama suggested that it would be impractical to govern based solely on the word of the Bible, noting that some passages suggest slavery is permissible and eating shellfish is disgraceful.

"Which passages of scripture should guide our public policy?" Obama asked in the speech. "Should we go with Leviticus, which suggests slavery is OK and that eating shellfish is an abomination? Or we could go with Deuteronomy, which suggests stoning your child if he strays from the faith? Or should we just stick to the Sermon on the Mount?

"So before we get carried away, let's read our Bible now," Obama said, to cheers. "Folks haven't been reading their Bible."

He also called Jesus' Sermon on the Mount "a passage that is so radical that it's doubtful that our Defense Department would survive its application."

In the comments to be aired Tuesday, Dobson said Obama should not be referencing antiquated dietary codes and passages from the Old Testament that are no longer relevant to the teachings of the New Testament.

"I think he's deliberately distorting the traditional understanding of the Bible to fit his own world view, his own confused theology," Dobson said, adding that Obama is "dragging biblical understanding through the gutter."

Responding to the comments, Joshua DuBois, Obama's national director of religious affairs, said the Illinois senator is "committed to reaching out to people of faith and standing up for American families."

"A full reading of his 2006 Call to Renewal speech shows just that," DuBois said. "Obama is proud to have the support of millions of Americans of faith and looks forward to working across religious lines to bring our country together."

The comments come shortly after DuBois called Focus on the Family to suggest a meeting with the group ahead of the Democratic Party's convention in late August, according to Tom Minnery, the organization's senior vice president for government and public policy.

Minnery wouldn't say whether any such meeting is planned but said the group is open to it.

Dobson also takes aim at Obama for suggesting in the speech that those motivated by religion should attempt to appeal to broader segments of the population by not just framing their arguments around religious precepts.

"Democracy demands that the religiously motivated translate their concerns into universal rather than religion-specific values," Obama said. "It requires their proposals be subject to argument and amenable to reason."

Dobson said the suggestion is an attempt to lead by the "lowest common denominator of morality."

"Am I required in a democracy to conform my efforts in the political arena to his bloody notion of what is right with regard to the lives of tiny babies?" he asked. "What he's trying to say here is, unless everybody agrees, we have no right to fight for what we believe.

"What the senator is saying there, in essence, is that 'I can't seek to pass legislation, for example, that bans partial-birth abortion, because there are people in the culture who don't see that as a moral issue,' " Dobson said. "And if I can't get everyone to agree with me, than it is undemocratic to try to pass legislation that I find offensive to the Scripture. Now, that is a fruitcake interpretation of the Constitution."

According to Minnery, Dobson was particularly offended by a portion of the speech in which Obama mentioned evangelical leader and the Rev. Al Sharpton.

In the speech, Obama said, "Even if we did have only Christians in our midst, if we expelled every non-Christian from the United States of America, whose Christianity would we teach in the schools? Would we go with James Dobson's or Al Sharpton's?"

In response, Minnery said, "Many people have called [Sharpton] a black racist, and [Obama] is somehow equating [Dobson] with that and racial bigotry."

Dobson's comments follow the Obama campaign's recent efforts to increase its appeal among evangelicals, many of whom have expressed reservations about supporting Sen. John McCain, the presumptive Republican nominee.

Dobson himself has said he will not vote for the Arizona senator.

Minnery said he doesn't expect Obama to make inroads into the reliably Republican voting bloc.

"Evangelicals are people who take Bible interpretation very seriously, and the sort of speech he gave shows that he is worlds away in the views of evangelicals," he said.

Minnery also said Dobson will probably continue his criticism of Obama.

"Given our fact that religion seems to be such a relevant topic in this election again, we will defend the evangelical view vigorously," he said.

LINK (http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/06/24/evangelical.vote/index.html)

He is a Doctor of Philosophy not a minister. So where do they get the evangelical leader stuff.

His own biography.

James C. Dobson, Ph.D., is founder and chairman of Focus on the Family, a non-profit organization that produces his internationally syndicated radio programs, heard on over 3,000 radio facilities in North America and in twenty seven languages in approximately 4,130 additional facilities in over 160 other countries.

His commentaries are heard by more than 220 million people by way of radio every day, including a translation of a program carried on state-owned radio stations in the Republic of China. He is seen on approximately 60 television stations daily in the U.S.

Dobson was for 14 years an Associate Clinical Professor of Pediatrics at the University of Southern California School of Medicine, and served for 17 years on the Attending Staff of Children's Hospital of Los Angeles in the Division of Child Development and Medical Genetics. He has an earned Ph.D. from the University of Southern California (1967) in the field of child development. He is a licensed psychologist in the state of California and a licensed marriage, family and child counselor in both California and Colorado. He is listed in Who's Who in Medicine and Healthcare.

Just thought you would like to know.

Oh, Gee!!
06-24-2008, 04:31 PM
Xray showing off his reading comprehension skills again. Nowhere in the article does it ever say that Dobson is a minister. Evangelical Leader does not equal minister.

Spurminator
06-24-2008, 04:42 PM
Dobson is a moron. He's essentially agreeing with Obama and he doesn't even know it.

ChumpDumper
06-24-2008, 05:11 PM
So what parts of the Bible are irrelevant according to evangelists?