Free Agency 2009 -- The Summer We're Waiting For

[rj215]

Here's a breakdown of 2009 Free Agents from http://www.stopmikelupica.com/2007/12/nba_salary_cap_analysis_part_1.php

That's the summer when we're going to have the magical cap space via Duncan's contract extension. Do any of these guys look like they could be a good fit for the Spurs? I'd say Artest and Brand.

2009 Free Agents:

The Big Dawgs:
Drew Gooden
Allen Iverson (almost certain to re-sign with Denver)
Rasheed Wallace
Baron Davis (if he does not exercise the opt out in 2008)
Elton Brand
Lamar Odom
Kobe Bryant (option)
Jason Kidd
Stephon Marbury
Jamal Crawford (player option for 09/10 and 10/11 - 50/50)
Eddy Curry (player option for 09/10, 10/11 - 50/50)
Hedo Turkoglu (player option for 09/10, unlikely)
Andre Miller
Steve Nash (player option, unlikely)
Grant Hill
Steve Francis
Ron Artest (can opt out in '08)
Mike Bibby
Carlos Boozer (player option for 09/10 unlikely)
Mehmet Okur (player option for 09/10 unlikely)

The Rookie Contracts:
Marvin Williams (restricted)
Raymond Felton (restricted)
Jason Maxiell (restricted)
Luther Head (restricted)
Danny Granger (restricted)
Andrew Bynum (restricted)
Hakim Warrick (restricted)
Andrew Bogut (restricted)
Charlie Villanueva (restricted)
Rashard McCants (restricted)
Chris Paul (restricted)
Nate Robinson (restricted)
David Lee (restricted)
Channing Frye (restricted)
Jarrett Jack (restricted)
Francisco "Paco" Garcia (restricted)
Deron Williams (restricted)

Young Filler Material, Given Up, With Potential:
Marquis Daniels (team option, unlikely to be picked up)
Desmond Mason
Chris Wilcox

They Still Living?
Eric Snow
Brevin Knight
Damon Stoudemire
Smush Parker
Juwan Howard
Antoine Walker (player option for 09/10, 10/11 - likely)
Jason Collins
Bobby Jackson
Malik Rose
Raef LaFrentz
Wally Szczerbiak

[exstatic]

Do you even follow the Spurs? We'll have no more money to spend next summer than this. The target is 2010.

A sample:
Lebron
Melo
Bosh
Amare

[m33p0]

Do you even follow the Spurs? We'll have no more money to spend next summer than this. The target is 2010.
yup.

[SPURSGOAT]

Do you even follow the Spurs? We'll have no more money to spend next summer than this. The target is 2010.

A sample:
Lebron
Melo
Bosh
Amare

Man would be sweet to get any of those guys in 2010... but don't see it happening really... getting Lebron would be the bomb.... he would still have "franchise" written all over him. As long as the Spurs have the right players in place to lure him here... besides an old TD and Manu and if Parker stays.

[SPURSGOAT]

Do you even follow the Spurs? We'll have no more money to spend next summer than this. The target is 2010.

:tu

[taps]

Lebron dreams every night about playing alongside a PG like Tony Parker who can score at will and collapses defenses. He'd be a better fit for LeBron than CP3, IMO (not that he would complain about CP3) because Tony is more of a scoring guard than a passing guard, he always goes for the rim when he drives - this would open up the floor for James. Plus, Lebron has openly admitted that he likes the Spurs and Popovich and he and TD seem to like each other after the Finals last year (mutual respect.) After consecutive seasons of disappointments I think he'd be willing to take his lumps from Pop in exchange for not having to run the 1-4 offense for 48 minutes.
Not to bash Delonte, he was a step up this year and made some crucial defensive stops against Boston.

Still, pipe dreams. In-clubs like Wallace-West and McHale-Ainge and reform-hater DStern have taught us not to speculate on anything further than a week away in this league.

[kobyz]

Do you even follow the Spurs? We'll have no more money to spend next summer than this. The target is 2010.

A sample:
Lebron
Melo
Bosh
Amare

Melo has a contract till 2012, the target is Lebron , we will be well under the Salary Cap and we will be able to offer Lebron the max

[rj215]

Do you even follow the Spurs? We'll have no more money to spend next summer than this. The target is 2010.

A sample:
Lebron
Melo
Bosh
Amare

Sorry everyone, got the dates wrong. But here's a list of 2010 FAs:

2010 Free Agents:

The Big Dawgs:
Joe Johnson
Ray Allen
Ben Wallace
LeBron James (player option, likely)
Dirk Nowitzki (player option, unlikely)
Josh Howard (player option, likely)
Marcus Camby
Rip Hamilton
Stephen Jackson
Tracy McGrady
Shaquille O'Neal
Dwyane Wade (player option for 10/11, unlikely)
Michael Redd (player option for 10/11, likely)
Tyson Chandler (player option for 10/11 - 50/50)
Eddy Curry (player option for 10/11 - 50/50)
Amare Stoudemire (player option for 10/11, unlikely)
Brad Miller
Manu Ginobili
Chris Bosh (player option for 10/11, unlikely)

The Rookie Contracts:
Shelden WIlliams (restricted)
Rajon Rondo (restricted)
Adam Morrison (brah ha ha)
Tyrus Thomas (restricted)
Rudy Gay (restricted)
Kyle Lowry (restricted)
Randy Foye (restricted)
Marcus Williams (restricted)
Josh Boone (restricted)
Renaldo Balkman (restricted)
Mardy Collins (restricted)
Brandon Roy (restricted)
Sergio Rodriguez (restricted)
LaMarcus Aldridge (restricted)
Quincy Douby (restricted)
Ronnie Brewer (restricted)
Andrea Bargnani (restricted)

Young Filler Material:
Amir Johnson
Al Harrington
Cuttino Mobley
Tim Thomas
Derek Fisher
Mike Miller
Darko Mlicic
Brian Cardinal
Udonis Haslim
Quentin Richardson
Raja Bell
TJ Ford (player option for 10/11, unlikely)

Won't Be In The League Much Longer:
Mark Blount
Bobby Simmons
Troy Hudson
Jerome James
Darius Miles
Travis Outlaw
Kenny Thomas
Shareef Abdul-Rahim
Bruce Bowen
Matt Bonner
Luke Ridnour
Earl Watson
Damien Wilkens
Matt Harpring
Etan Thomas
Antonio Davis
Brendon Haywood

Non-rookie contracts that are past 2010:

Good Contracts, ValueWise (won't get traded, because the contract is too good):
Carmelo Anthony 10/11 $17.1
Chauncey Billups 10/11 $13.15 11/12 $14.2
Yao Ming 10/11 $17.7
Dwight Howard 10/11 $15.78 11/12 $17.15 12/13 $18.52 (player option, unlikely)
Tim Duncan 10/11 $18.7, 11/12 $21.3
Tony Parker 10/11 $13.5
Leandrinho Barbosa 10/11 $7.1, 11/12 $7.6 (player option, unlikely)
Caron Butler 10/11 $10.56

Bad Contracts, LengthWise (Pretty untradeable, other than as salary dump):

Kendrick Perkins 10/11 $4.4
Jason Richardson 10/11 $14.4
Kirk Hinrich 10/11 $9.0 11/12 $8.0 (good contract value wise, though)
Eric Dampier 10/11 $13.0
Kenyon Martin 10/11 $16.55
Nene 10/11 $11.36 11/12 $11.6
Nazr Mohammad 10/11 $6.88
Shane Battier 10/11 $7.35
Troy Murphy 10/11 $11.97
Mike Dunleavy 10/11 $10.56
Jamaal Tinsley 10/11 $7.5
Vladimir Radmanovic 10/11 $6.88 (player option)
Luke Walton 10/11 $5.26, 11/12 $5.68, 12/13 $6.10 (good value, but too long)
Dan Gudzuric 10/11 $7.24
Charlie Bell 10/11 $3.84, 11/12 $4.092
Antoine Walker 10/11 $10.87
Marko Jaric 10/11 $7.63
Richard Jefferson 10/11 $15.0
Peja Stojakovic 10/11 $15.34
Mo Peterson 10/11 $6.64
Zach Randolph 10/11 $17.33
Jamal Crawford 10/11 $10.08 (player option)
Jared Jeffries 10/11 $6.88 (player option)
Rashard Lewis 10/11 $20.514 11/12 $22.15 12/13 $23.8
Jameer Nelson 10/11 $6.72, 11/12 $7.31 12/13 $7.889
Samuel Dalembert 10/11 $12.2
Kyle Korver 10/11 $5.54
Reggie Evans 10/11 $5.08
Willie Green 10/11 $3.98
Boris Diaw 10/11 $9.0, 11/12 $9.0 (player option, likely)
Marcus Banks 10/11 $4.75
Joel Przybilla 10/11 $7.41 (player option, likely)
John Salmons 10/11 $5.81
Nick Collison 10/11 $6.75
Andrei Kirilenko 10/11 $17.82
DeShawn Stevenson 10/11 $4.15

Just The Right Length and Amount:

Kevin Garnett: 10/11, $18.8, 11/12, $21.2
Paul Pierce 10/11 $21.5
Gerald Wallace 10/11 $9.8, 11/12 $10.65, 12/13: 11.44 (player option)
Jason Terry 10/11 $10.65 11/12 $11.44
Chris Kaman 10/11 $11.30 11/12 $12.2
Pau Gasol 10/11 $17.82
Mo Williams 10/11 $9.30, 11/12 $8.5, 12/13 $8.5 (player option) (a little long, but good value)
Al Jefferson 10/11 $13.0, 11/12 $14.0 12/13 $15.0 (tough call, but could become a sweet deal)
Vince Carter 10/11 $17.3, 11/12 $18.0 (player option)
David West 10/11 $8.288 11/12 $7.525 (player option)
Tyson Chandler 10/11 $12.75 (player option)
Eddy Curry 10/11 $11.28 (player option)
Tayshaun Prince 10/11 $11.15

[TDMVPDPOY]

wade anyone?

[Biggems]

Lebron would be a fool to pick Parker over CP3. CP3 is a more complete PG than Parker. CP3 has the refs eating out of the palm of his hand. CP3 will give Lebron all the shots he wants, while at the same time, still contributing on the scoreboard.

However, Lebron will not go to NO and he will not go to SA.....he is going to go to NY. He will be a Knick, where his ego and his face can be everywhere. He will go to NY and never, ever win a ring.....but end up getting hundreds of millions in salary and endorsements.

[kobyz]

Lebron would be a fool to pick Parker over CP3. CP3 is a more complete PG than Parker. CP3 has the refs eating out of the palm of his hand. CP3 will give Lebron all the shots he wants, while at the same time, still contributing on the scoreboard.

However, Lebron will not go to NO and he will not go to SA.....he is going to go to NY. He will be a Knick, where his ego and his face can be everywhere. He will go to NY and never, ever win a ring.....but end up getting hundreds of millions in salary and endorsements.

he is not going to New York, he will go to a team that will give him the best situation to win a championship

[TacoCabanaFajitas]

he is not going to New York, he will go to a team that will give him the best situation to win a championship

Are you sure? This is the same Lebron that said his goal in life was to "be the richest man in the world."

[taps]

CP3 may be a more complete guard but I still say Tony is a better fit for him because he is a guard who has been groomed to play with a bunch of All Stars. It's Tim, Manu, and coaching that seal the deal. He would be no fool to choose Parker over Chris Paul given our consistent winning tradition (best in sports in the modern era) and our roster. Talent drops off after Paul on NOLA with inconsistent post player West being their only other option who can do more than catch lobs or spot up. TP also proved he can match Paul in output in a 7 game series. Paul avgs only 2.3 more PPG in the reg season. Considering Tony has two other guys who also avg 20 a game and still manages to get his numbers I'd say he compares with Paul quite favorably, assists are the only big discrepancy (5 more a game for Paul) but I addressed that in the last post. I didn't say James wouldn't get his shots on the Hornets, I'm saying Tony's game matches up better with Lebron's given what I said in this post (which I thought was implicit) and in the last post.

Can Lebron get over his Jordan-philia? It would be lame for him to go to another team with no chance of making the playoffs without him (like the Knicks) all so he can take them to the ring all by himself and stroke his ego. I admit it is possible though.

[Tully365]

I think Bosh is the best bet. He was raised in Texas, and I think his parents still live there. He could be to Duncan what Duncan was to Robinson.
I don't see LeBron considering a small media market like San Antonio. I could be wrong, but he seems to want the big time media coverage of a Los Angeles, Chicago, or New York.

[pawe]

Lebron will not go to SA. That boy dreams of fame and money, success is only second to him coz he can always get it and a championship will always be there.
If the Spurs are going to spend, I still think they're gonna go for a big to anchor the paint.

[Spurtacus]

If I think about 2009 or 2010 my head will explode. Focusing on the draft right now!

[KidCongo]

LeBron is not leaving.

[Tully365]

If I think about 2009 or 2010 my head will explode. Focusing on the draft right now!

So true! I'm practically watching the clock and thinking, "c'mon dammit, hurry up!"

[ManuTim_best of Fwiendz]

Lebron will not go to SA. That boy dreams of fame and money, success is only second to him coz he can always get it and a championship will always be there.
If the Spurs are going to spend, I still think they're gonna go for a big to anchor the paint.

Lebron could surprise us..i wouldn't count him out, though yeah, it'd be a wiser business move to play for a large market city, also he does have a pretty flashy lifestyle.....

but if he loves the game, NBA history and respects the Spurs way of doing things, it's not impossible for him to consider realistically playing alongside Timmy, Tony and Manu. The pluses for him would be longetivity , a well managed ship under, the potential to succeed Timmy and take over the reins of a dynasty for the next decade..Man, if Lebron knows what's good for him it isn't winning one ship, (a player of his calibre under a shitty franchise can score a one and done , a la Wade, and never sniff it again if his management isn't up to scratch) ...winning multiple ones require the good fortune of what Timmy has, so if Lebron's priorities are straight, he should recognize that great opportunity of waits for him at the Spurs Club....and if Timmy wins in 2009?? 5 rings in a decade..thatd' be a sweet bargaining chip for us...
it'd so fucking awesome for the Spurs franchise!!...:drunk I hate this thread already. :depressed

Hopefully the Heat still suck even with their draft pick this year, maybe Wade will be an easier get to replace Manu.

[m33p0]

LeBron is not leaving.
he's going to play for the Knicks. book it.

[JP le Requin]

i would like BOSH...in nba you need a very good C or PF then you pick the good tools..

dont forget that a big man is walways 7 footer at the end of the game....and can be effective thanks to his size !

and THE TWIN TOWERS WILL BE BACK FOR THE LAST RUN OF TD like DR50!!!

[JP le Requin]

lets help TD to end his carrer at the best level!!

[rj215]

lets help TD to end his carrer at the best level!!

Bosh would be perfect. He's a bit more of a jump shooter ala KG which would finally free up TD to destroy C's and PF's. Teams have smartened up a bit in that past few years and have doubled TD knowing that guys like Rasho and Ellison couldn't hurt them all that much.

[Pucho!!!]

I like Bosh's game too, more of a true PF with alito SF splashed into him. Him and TD, whhhhhoooooooo!!! It gets me all warm inside, haha. I wouldn't doubt that's who the spurs are lookin at, but the raptors r improvin and have a young roster that resides in the east, which we all know is a much easier route to get to the championship than the west. That bein said TD, Bosh, Manu and TP9. that's one hell of a deadly startin 4 with a supportin cast member to fill in the 5th slot

[kobyz]

so it's either Lebron or Bosh in the Summer of 2010