View Full Version : I see Sasha Vujacic going to the Spurs
DazedAndConfused
06-21-2008, 03:17 PM
Apparently he is seeking the full MLE of 5.8 million this season. As much as you guys HATE Sasha he really seems like he would fit right in with the Spurs. I don't how if they want to bring Finley back, and Sasha can probably take over his starting spot right away with Ginobili coming off the bench. This season he has shown he's a good 3pt shooter (#8) and that he can play some pesky defense. I can't imagine an more annoying combo on the perimeter than Sasha and Bowen.
Sasha is also very young, 23. I'm sure the Spurs can mold him into a Bowen like gnat on defense and his shooting is good enough to give the Spurs proper spacing on the floor. The bottom line is the Spurs are in a position to offer a player like Sasha the full MLE, whereas the Lakers would be paying double that since they would be in the luxury tax. There is no way in hell Buss is writing Sasha 11.6 million dollar checks this season.
Spurtacus
06-21-2008, 03:18 PM
Hell no.
cash459
06-21-2008, 03:26 PM
I do see him as a bowen/peja type of player. Lord knows we need youth, and outside shooting. Id give it a shot.
exstatic
06-21-2008, 03:36 PM
I do see him as a bowen/peja type of player. Lord knows we need youth, and outside shooting. Id give it a shot.
WTF is a bowen/peja type player? Would they sell out on defense half the time and ignore it the rest of the time?
No crybabies, please.
DazedAndConfused
06-21-2008, 03:38 PM
The more I think about it, I can't imagine a better place for him than SAS considering what he wants.
He wants the chance to start. He wants to play on a team competing for a championship. He wants MLE money. The Spurs can give him all 3 of those things. If he does leave the Lakers I can see him being an extremely effective player on the Spurs.
exstatic
06-21-2008, 03:39 PM
The more I think about it, I can't imagine a better place for him than SAS considering what he wants.
He wants the chance to start. He wants to play on a team competing for a championship. He wants MLE money. The Spurs can give him all 3 of those things. If he does leave the Lakers I can see him being an extremely effective player on the Spurs.
Don't try to foist your castoff headcases on us, please.
I doubt Spurs would pay him that much.
ShoogarBear
06-21-2008, 03:41 PM
La Máquina!!!???
baseline bum
06-21-2008, 03:41 PM
I do see him as a bowen/peja type of player. Lord knows we need youth, and outside shooting. Id give it a shot.
What, Bowen on offsense and Peja on D?
Of course he wants MLE. Nobody will give it to him though. He's an RFA and will be back in LA for probably $3-$4 million per.
DazedAndConfused
06-21-2008, 03:47 PM
I hope he's back in LA, but knowing the NBA some team will be dumb enough to offer him MLE money.
Marcus Bryant
06-21-2008, 03:47 PM
$5.5 mil+ per starting? Pass.
Mr.Bottomtooth
06-21-2008, 04:20 PM
Not for the full MLE would I accept him.
Mr.Bottomtooth
06-21-2008, 04:21 PM
La Máquina!!!???
:lol
kobyz
06-21-2008, 04:23 PM
i see some teams that will give him the MLE
TheProfessor
06-21-2008, 04:24 PM
Someone will give him the MLE, but I doubt it's the Spurs. I think they'll split that money on a couple of players; for instance, Roger Mason and Matt Barnes. You could certainly make an argument for Vujacic at that price, as much as Spurs' fans hate him right now - 45% from the field, 40% from three, pesky defender, doesn't turn the ball over. He just needs to mature, as a person and player.
T Park
06-21-2008, 04:32 PM
The FULL MLE?
:lol
Hes one drunk slovenian.
Condemned 2 HelLA
06-21-2008, 04:37 PM
There was mention of this on one of the sports stations out here last night.
No.
Thank.
You.
TheProfessor
06-21-2008, 04:38 PM
The FULL MLE?
:lol
Hes one drunk slovenian.
Raptors gave Kapono the full MLE. Someone will give it to Sasha.
ShoogarBear
06-21-2008, 04:40 PM
Hes one drunk slovenian.
Thanks to Slomo, we know how one gets that way. :drunk
T Park
06-21-2008, 04:42 PM
Raptors gave Kapono the full MLE. Someone will give it to Sasha.
The Raptors were idiots too.
Despite the protests of one lady poster here :lol
Thanks to Slomo, we know how one gets that way.
God aint that the truth :lol
cash459
06-21-2008, 05:39 PM
bowen/peja type player = good 3 point shooting and pesky D (not the best, but finley doesnt play much better D either) youth & can be molded.
not saying he's a savior, but an option worth looking at if nothing else better comes along.
SenorSpur
06-21-2008, 05:41 PM
His salary is just where it should be - 1.8mil. He doesn't deserve the MLE from the Spurs or any team for that matter. He's not consistent enough and he's not an all-around player - he's a streak shooter. Pass.
baseline bum
06-21-2008, 06:38 PM
His salary is just where it should be - 1.8mil. He doesn't deserve the MLE from the Spurs or any team for that matter. He's not a consistent enough and he's not an all-around player - he's a streak shooter. Pass
I'm not sold on him either. His stats look great, but anyone who watches Laker games knows he gets ridiculously wide-open looks. He gets the kind of shots Bowen used to get around '03 or so when no one respected his range. I doubt teams are going to give him that kind of space again, seeing that he made them pay for it last year.
Kindergarten Cop
06-21-2008, 06:39 PM
I'm not sold on him either. His stats look great, but anyone who watches Laker games knows he gets ridiculously wide-open looks. He gets the kind of shots Bowen used to get around '03 or so when no one respected his range. I doubt teams are going to give him that kind of space again, seeing that he made them pay for it last year.
One could argue that with Duncan's inside presence and ability to pass out of the double team, he would actually get MORE wide open looks than he did this past year.
urunobili
06-21-2008, 06:40 PM
I'd waste the full MLE with Posey though...
The Truth #6
06-21-2008, 06:47 PM
Posey is much more clutch than I had thought. He seems like a headcase but he's a winner. We need scoring more than defense, but yeah, I'd take Posey way before Sasha. However, with Posey around Udoka would probably just sit on the bench, which would be a waste.
Ronaldo McDonald
06-21-2008, 07:58 PM
5.8?
I'd give it to him if he could do what s-jax did for us the year he was with us, which is hit three's and play D. Does he have S-jax potential?
SenorSpur
06-21-2008, 08:05 PM
5.8?
I'd give it to him if he could do what s-jax did for us the year he was with us, which is hit three's and play D. Does he have S-jax potential?
You don't pay for potential. A fiscally responsible team pays for performance.
1Parker1
06-21-2008, 08:11 PM
La Máquina!!!???
:lmao
Can you imagine? A lineup of El Fundamental, El Frenchie, El Sucio, El Contusion, and La Maquina. :ihit
1Parker1
06-21-2008, 08:13 PM
I'd waste the full MLE with Posey though...
Yea, me too. But I highly doubt the Defending Champs, the Boston Celtics (:vomit:), will let him go, especially considering how big he came up for them in the postseason.
Mr.Bottomtooth
06-21-2008, 08:16 PM
Yea, me too. But I highly doubt the Defending Champs, the Boston Celtics (:vomit:), will let him go, especially considering how big he came up for them in the postseason.
He's a free agent.
TDMVPDPOY
06-21-2008, 08:29 PM
i dunno man, this guy is worster than beno, and we are going to throw the MLE at the machine? fuck that.
he chokes in a finals series and we chase after him
while beno chokes against the pistons in 05, and we still givin him shit.
mrspurs
06-21-2008, 08:32 PM
sasha would get in pops doghouse right away....and we all knows what happens when you get in pops doghouse...thats why i just dont see him coming here....la might keep him, and there are plenty of other PO contenders who could use him...if we are looking for a guard/small forward, imo we need someone who can create his own shot...not wait and sit behind the arc and shoot, and his defense, i guess i just dont see the D everyone else sees(at the most average is all i see) and who cares about his youth, sasha, isnt someone i think we need to build around or keep as a role player.....we have plenty of those kind of players already......go spurs go
Ronaldo McDonald
06-21-2008, 08:32 PM
You don't pay for potential. A fiscally responsible team pays for performance.
That depends on how well you are able to evaluate whether a play has or doesn't have potential.
Ronaldo McDonald
06-21-2008, 08:34 PM
Bottom line is this guy could be an s-jax player for us judging by what I saw from him.
bigdog
06-21-2008, 08:47 PM
I'm not gonna lie, I think he's a pretty good player, but we don't need his stupid attitude, and did you see the shitty defense he played in the finals? Horrible stuff, no way.
Slinkyman
06-21-2008, 09:29 PM
not saying i want it to happen, but i wouldn't be surprised if Sasha is on the spurs next season. The full MLE? probably not but probably close.
Spurs Brazil
06-21-2008, 10:40 PM
No
This guy is overrated
SenorSpur
06-21-2008, 10:43 PM
Any player who incessantly refers to himself as The Machine........, I don't think so.
angelbelow
06-21-2008, 11:52 PM
im not gonna lie, he would be a great fit here, but so would jr smith. i would rather spend the MLE on smith.
Kindergarten Cop
06-21-2008, 11:54 PM
im not gonna lie, he would be a great fit here, but so would jr smith. i would rather spend the MLE on smith.
+1
intlspurshk
06-22-2008, 12:00 AM
Sorry, I know Pop like Lakers players but I would rather SPURS chase R Turiaf
TheProfessor
06-22-2008, 12:04 AM
im not gonna lie, he would be a great fit here, but so would jr smith. i would rather spend the MLE on smith.
I'm curious - why would you go with Smith over Vujacic?
Anti.Hero
06-22-2008, 12:04 AM
Passssss
Kindergarten Cop
06-22-2008, 12:10 AM
I'm curious - why would you go with Smith over Vujacic?
Smith is the type that will create his own shot and a slasher, while Vujacic relies more on others getting him the ball when he's open IMHO.
Smith is a little inconsistent but once he gets it going..dang, you better give him the ball and just watch. Sasha relies on energy teamplay and watching the spurs so far, energy is what we've been lacking the whole year. I dont know, I just hope we can get either of these two..they are an improvement of anyone we have on bench right now.
baseline bum
06-22-2008, 12:53 AM
Smith is a little inconsistent but once he gets it going..dang, you better give him the ball and just watch.
That's the worst kind of player. JR Smith would be another Vinny Del Negro; someone who could get you 30 against Atlanta in February, but who cannot be depended on to show up every night.
Sense
06-22-2008, 01:03 AM
Ok.... Sasha? Please no.... seriously.... the guy's like a kid when he's on the court....
he's a good shooter... but under pressure? He's just not Spurs material in my head... even if he's Slovenian...
let the Lakers keep him...
oh.... and he wouldn't do what S-Jax did to us.. I can't believe you put em in the same sentence
so you guys would rather take fin, udoka or barry over smith/sasha? I thought the spurs should get younger? these two players are the best fit for the spurs right now since they're looking for youth & energy and shooting.
Sense
06-22-2008, 01:23 AM
so you guys would rather take fin, udoka or barry over smith/sasha? I thought the spurs should get younger? these two players are the best fit for the spurs right now since they're looking for youth & energy and shooting.
fin, udoka or barry > Sasha
I'd take Smith though....
Sasha just looks like a kid to me... he's trying to prove himself every time he's on the court imho... and that leads to a lot of mistakes... he's just someone I wouldn't want to see on the roster.
AA2120
06-22-2008, 02:29 AM
if we do...im jumping out of a window
angelbelow
06-22-2008, 02:44 AM
fin, udoka or barry > Sasha
I'd take Smith though....
Sasha just looks like a kid to me... he's trying to prove himself every time he's on the court imho... and that leads to a lot of mistakes... he's just someone I wouldn't want to see on the roster.
i'll agree with barry and udoka but im not sure finley is better than sasha.
Vujabitch on the Spurs and I'm trading in silver and black for white and blue.
m33p0
06-22-2008, 05:16 AM
not while there's a chance to get james posey.
Any player who incessantly refers to himself as The Machine........, I don't think so.
Would you mind read following link and stop spreading disinformations?
http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2592691#post2592691
tmtcsc
06-22-2008, 08:37 AM
sissy boy. keep walking son. he's psychologically damaged goods from what Boston did to him. Plus, I can't wait to see what Manu has in store for him.
Posey plus a SF would be a good summer
Manu_Ginobili
06-22-2008, 09:23 AM
Apparently he is seeking the full MLE of 5.8 million this season. As much as you guys HATE Sasha he really seems like he would fit right in with the Spurs. I don't how if they want to bring Finley back, and Sasha can probably take over his starting spot right away with Ginobili coming off the bench. This season he has shown he's a good 3pt shooter (#8) and that he can play some pesky defense. I can't imagine an more annoying combo on the perimeter than Sasha and Bowen.
Sasha is also very young, 23. I'm sure the Spurs can mold him into a Bowen like gnat on defense and his shooting is good enough to give the Spurs proper spacing on the floor. The bottom line is the Spurs are in a position to offer a player like Sasha the full MLE, whereas the Lakers would be paying double that since they would be in the luxury tax. There is no way in hell Buss is writing Sasha 11.6 million dollar checks this season.
After his 3 in the last sec of Game 5, showing a TOTAL disrespect to the Spurs and our organization, I would NEVER imagine even a consideration from Pop to get him...Keep him yourselves and pay "double"...When S learns to respect the NBA, then he can come and Play for the Spurs!
GO SPURS!!!
Ronaldo McDonald
06-22-2008, 11:19 AM
Go after Smith, Posey, Aszabuke (Sp?) . If we can't get on of them, we've got to go after Sasha.
SenorSpur
06-22-2008, 11:22 AM
Would you mind read following link and stop spreading disinformations?
http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2592691#post2592691
WGAF how he got it? What's it to you?
WGAF how he got it? What's it to you?
Then why did you mention it?:rolleyes
spurscenter
06-22-2008, 12:17 PM
Apparently he is seeking the full MLE of 5.8 million this season. As much as you guys HATE Sasha he really seems like he would fit right in with the Spurs. I don't how if they want to bring Finley back, and Sasha can probably take over his starting spot right away with Ginobili coming off the bench. This season he has shown he's a good 3pt shooter (#8) and that he can play some pesky defense. I can't imagine an more annoying combo on the perimeter than Sasha and Bowen.
Sasha is also very young, 23. I'm sure the Spurs can mold him into a Bowen like gnat on defense and his shooting is good enough to give the Spurs proper spacing on the floor. The bottom line is the Spurs are in a position to offer a player like Sasha the full MLE, whereas the Lakers would be paying double that since they would be in the luxury tax. There is no way in hell Buss is writing Sasha 11.6 million dollar checks this season.
he is overrated
i would go for the warriors beninili (sp) instead for cheaper. he is going to be a star if he can get past the politics
Would you mind read following link and stop spreading disinformations?
http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2592691#post2592691
WGAF how he got it? What's it to you?
You do!
Any player who incessantly refers to himself as The Machine........, I don't think so.
So, what's it to you?
SenorSpur
06-22-2008, 12:48 PM
You do!
So, what's it to you?
The essence of the point is PASS on this guy.
Fiestadog
06-22-2008, 04:13 PM
he's such a puss too!
Avitus1
06-22-2008, 04:43 PM
Fuck that guy and his bad karma.
TJastal
06-22-2008, 04:54 PM
Attitude's aside, the kid is only 23. He will mature as he gets older.
He could defenitely bring the spurs some youthful fire, energy, and defense to this older team and be able to give Bowen and Ginobili some good rest during the regular season. This could be crucial to a successful spurs playoff run. He's shown he's a clutch shooter who can get hot on the drop of a dime. Although he doesn't "create" his own offense in the traditional sense of taking guys off the dribble, his height (6'7") allows him to get his knockdown jumper off in traffic when he wants. So in effect he can create his own shot just fine.
And defensively, he missed one assignment on Ray Allen at the end of 1 game. Other than that, he was the laker's best perimeter defender during the playoffs. Seeing as that is one of the lakers' biggest weaknesses right now, taking him away from them would hurt them alot and be a smart move by the spurs.
Just my 2 cents
Big P
06-22-2008, 05:32 PM
I see you trying to pawn your whiney ass eratic sg on the Spurs....fortunately for us I see the Spurs laughing when Vaji says he deserves the full MLE....every year teams overpay with the MLE, Jarred Jefferies & Jerome James from the Knicks, Abdur-Rahim from Sacto, Tim Thomas from the Clipps.....I just don't see the Spurs wasting the full MLE on someone like Vaji.
50 cent
06-22-2008, 06:40 PM
God, I hope not. I can't stand Sasha.
Tully365
06-22-2008, 06:44 PM
Someone will give him the MLE, but I doubt it's the Spurs. I think they'll split that money on a couple of players; for instance, Roger Mason and Matt Barnes. You could certainly make an argument for Vujacic at that price, as much as Spurs' fans hate him right now - 45% from the field, 40% from three, pesky defender, doesn't turn the ball over. He just needs to mature, as a person and player.
I could see the spurs trying to split the MLE between two players and possibly getting someone with the LLE too and then letting them fight it out in camp (along with their 1st rnd pick) to see who stays and who gets used as trade bait. Not a terrible strategy... If they are losing Finley & Horry and resigning Thomas, that would give them 11 players under contract as astarting point... If Thomas doesn't want to resign, that would really make things interesting...
Another issue though-- and correct me if I'm wrong here-- but aren't the MLE and LLE only available for use once every two years, and not able to be used two years in a row? It's hard to argue for a "bite the bullet" approach though-- saving moves for next year or later since the Spurs would likely want to go all out for titles before Duncan starts his inevitable decline in a couple of years....
Kindergarten Cop
06-22-2008, 07:02 PM
Another issue though-- and correct me if I'm wrong here-- but aren't the MLE and LLE only available for use once every two years, and not able to be used two years in a row? It's hard to argue for a "bite the bullet" approach though-- saving moves for next year or later since the Spurs would likely want to go all out for titles before Duncan starts his inevitable decline in a couple of years....
I am by no means an expert, but I believe the LLE is also referred to as the bi-anual exception - that obviously can only be used every other year. Teams are free to use the MLE every year that they are over the cap.
VaSpursFan
06-22-2008, 07:32 PM
i don't see this guy being on the short list for the spurs FA signings at this point.
AC#21_TD ERA
06-22-2008, 09:26 PM
Sasha isn't a starter i prefer Peitrous he will be a better starter. Plus Sasha might find himself in Pop's doghouse very quickly because of his inconssistent D. Once your in it your in it.
BigBeezie
06-22-2008, 10:13 PM
I really like James Posey. Why not him???
Pucho!!!
06-23-2008, 09:59 AM
Sasha Vujabitch, don't want him, plus I think the lakers r gonna try and keep the team they have now, seeing how kobe stated his approval of this years 2nd half lakers team. If we could get posey, he would be a great fit, but the celtics r gonna resign him if he's a FA. Bottom line is we need another slasher with decent shooting more than another pure shooter. We got barry, udoka, bonner and possibly fin shootin 3s and parker/manu penetratin. When one of them gets into foul trouble or hurt, then our offense becomes stagnant cuz everyone else outside of the big 3 just hug the 3pt line. A 3rd slasher with a decent shot would help alot
thispego
06-23-2008, 10:16 AM
Apparently he is seeking the full MLE of 5.8 million this season. As much as you guys HATE Sasha he really seems like he would fit right in with the Spurs. I don't how if they want to bring Finley back, and Sasha can probably take over his starting spot right away with Ginobili coming off the bench. This season he has shown he's a good 3pt shooter (#8) and that he can play some pesky defense. I can't imagine an more annoying combo on the perimeter than Sasha and Bowen.
Sasha is also very young, 23. I'm sure the Spurs can mold him into a Bowen like gnat on defense and his shooting is good enough to give the Spurs proper spacing on the floor. The bottom line is the Spurs are in a position to offer a player like Sasha the full MLE, whereas the Lakers would be paying double that since they would be in the luxury tax. There is no way in hell Buss is writing Sasha 11.6 million dollar checks this season.
:lmao:lmao:lmao x 100000000^5
xtremesteven33
06-23-2008, 10:48 AM
Sasha Vujabitch, don't want him, plus I think the lakers r gonna try and keep the team they have now, seeing how kobe stated his approval of this years 2nd half lakers team. If we could get posey, he would be a great fit, but the celtics r gonna resign him if he's a FA. Bottom line is we need another slasher with decent shooting more than another pure shooter. We got barry, udoka, bonner and possibly fin shootin 3s and parker/manu penetratin. When one of them gets into foul trouble or hurt, then our offense becomes stagnant cuz everyone else outside of the big 3 just hug the 3pt line. A 3rd slasher with a decent shot would help alot
JR Smith
Mr.Bottomtooth
06-23-2008, 10:48 AM
I'd like Sasha on the Spurs, but unless he's willling to negotiate for a cheaper deal, he's off the Spurs list.
angelbelow
06-23-2008, 03:48 PM
sasha is realistically worth 3-4 mil right now. but hes going to get the full MLE. i can see him starting a many teams, magics, hornets, mavs, cavs, even the suns.
SpurOutofTownFan
06-23-2008, 05:53 PM
Apparently he is seeking the full MLE of 5.8 million this season. As much as you guys HATE Sasha he really seems like he would fit right in with the Spurs. I don't how if they want to bring Finley back, and Sasha can probably take over his starting spot right away with Ginobili coming off the bench. This season he has shown he's a good 3pt shooter (#8) and that he can play some pesky defense. I can't imagine an more annoying combo on the perimeter than Sasha and Bowen.
Sasha is also very young, 23. I'm sure the Spurs can mold him into a Bowen like gnat on defense and his shooting is good enough to give the Spurs proper spacing on the floor. The bottom line is the Spurs are in a position to offer a player like Sasha the full MLE, whereas the Lakers would be paying double that since they would be in the luxury tax. There is no way in hell Buss is writing Sasha 11.6 million dollar checks this season.
LMAO - it seems you are trying to sell this dude to the Spurs. If there's something I know about the spurs is that they will never pay 6mil for this dude.
He has no layups. The Spurs have many spot shooters already. If Farmar was available I would go with him instead.
Sasha can't become Bowen, they don't play the same position at all naturally.
He's not in the short list at the moment.
E.O.A.O.
06-23-2008, 05:57 PM
Keep dreaming Spurs fans.... LOL. The Machine is staying in LA
Marcus Bryant
06-23-2008, 06:41 PM
Keep dreaming Spurs fans.... LOL. The Machine is staying in LA
You realize a Laker fan posted this, no? Fuck man I hope he stays.
LakerLanny
06-23-2008, 07:05 PM
The more I think about it, I can't imagine a better place for him than SAS considering what he wants.
He wants the chance to start. He wants to play on a team competing for a championship. He wants MLE money. The Spurs can give him all 3 of those things. If he does leave the Lakers I can see him being an extremely effective player on the Spurs.
You think Sasha would start over Manu Ginobili?
Are you high? Why in the world would they start Sasha over a third team all NBA player?
Sasha is a guy who can make some wide open shots once in a while. He has played 6 decent months of basketball in four years now in the NBA.
No team is giving him the MLE, certainly not a smart team like the Spurs. If I am the Lakers, I offer him 3 years at $2.5 million per, take it or leave it.
Indazone
06-23-2008, 08:17 PM
I see Sasha Vujavic signing a big contract with CSKA
DazedAndConfused
06-23-2008, 08:20 PM
Ginobili doesn't usually start because he can't handle starter minutes. If the Spurs played him 40 mpg he'd have nothing left in the tank come playoff time. Especially after last season you have to imagine the Spurs will be extra cautious with his minutes.
They need to get younger in the worst way. Sasha has everything they could ask for in terms of a Finley replacement. Shoots just as well from the field, can play better defense, plays with intensity and heart, and now has deep playoff experience. I would be extremely surprised if the Spurs didn't make a serious run at the guy, if only to piss Buss off and make him pay more $$$ to resign Sasha.
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