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Indazone
06-23-2008, 01:06 PM
It's Hoopsworld so I don't put a lot of stock in it. Thought I'd post it anyways. Comments? http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=9173

Reports out of Greece today have the Greek team Panathinaikos in talks with the Houston Rockets about power forward Luis Scola. According to sources close to Panathinaikos, the team for which former Rockets guard Vasilis Spanoulis plays, they're in the process of buying out Scola's contract with the Rockets so that he can return to Europe, where he has earned an impressive list of honors for his feats on the basketball court.

We're not sure what's caused the sudden commotion in Greece, but Houston Rockets GM Daryl Morey assured HOOPSWORLD this morning that there is absolutely no truth to the reports.

Red Hawk #21
06-23-2008, 01:22 PM
Damn its gunna suck if he leaves, he was really showing signs of becoming a solid player

Reggie Miller
06-23-2008, 01:27 PM
Other than Vasilis Spanoulis returning home, have ANY of these Greek league rumors EVER been true?

I can't think of a single damn one.

Kill_Bill_Pana
06-23-2008, 01:44 PM
It is report in Greece that Panathinaikos offers Carlos Delfno big contract but that he is only little bit interested.

It was also say in Greece big sports papers that Panathinaikos make HUGE offer to Scola and also to pay all remains salary to Rockets and Scola and his agent agree and will want join Panathinaikos. But problem is also report that Rockets GM and team discuss this and consider it and decide not allow him out of contract and they also not have to.

This mean Scola would have to try same method as Spanoulis to get out of contract and this reports say he not want to do such thing. But Scola do want offer from Panathinaikos which is for several time more money than he make in NBA.

Indazone
06-23-2008, 01:45 PM
uh oh

The exchange rate comes to bite us again.

Kill_Bill_Pana
06-23-2008, 01:46 PM
Other than Vasilis Spanoulis returning home, have ANY of these Greek league rumors EVER been true?

I can't think of a single damn one.

Dominique Wilkins make 3.5 million euros net salary all way back in 1996 with Panathinaikos and with the inflation and exchange rate and the no taxes think how much this be. These is usual just rumors but do not be fool about money that Panathinaikos have.

Kill_Bill_Pana
06-23-2008, 01:48 PM
uh oh

The exchange rate comes to bite us again.

Olympiacos has offer Anthony Parker $8 million US dollar net salary and all reports say deal is 99% percent done as Olympiacos will pay all salary of his left to Raptors and they will allow him leave.

Panathinaikos owners hear this and now make attempt to make "bold move" and they say "we owes Rockets back for how they treat Spanoulis"

Indazone
06-23-2008, 01:51 PM
Olympiacos has offer Anthony Parker $8 million US dollar net salary and all reports say deal is 99% percent done as Olympiacos will pay all salary of his left to Raptors and they will allow him leave.

Panathinaikos owners hear this and now make attempt to make "bold move" and they say "we owes Rockets back for how they treat Spanoulis"

wow, you can't be serious!

stretch
06-23-2008, 01:51 PM
lol spanoulis

stretch
06-23-2008, 01:51 PM
spanoulis sucks

stretch
06-23-2008, 01:51 PM
balls

DaDakota
06-23-2008, 02:27 PM
Oh come on, a team can not make an offer to another player already under contract, that would be a violation of FIBA rules.

This sounds like an unsubstantiated rumor.

DD

Mr.Bottomtooth
06-23-2008, 02:33 PM
If this is real, this would be very surprising to me.

Indazone
06-23-2008, 02:44 PM
Oh come on, a team can not make an offer to another player already under contract, that would be a violation of FIBA rules.

This sounds like an unsubstantiated rumor.

DD

Sounds farfetched to me too but...there is always the golden rule of business.

He who has the money makes the rules.

Harry Callahan
06-23-2008, 04:57 PM
Makes no sense to me (sounds like a rumor and a non-sensical one). I don't think Houston has to do anything. The guy is locked up for two more years. Now in 2010, things may change.

The Franchise
06-23-2008, 05:00 PM
This is not true.

stxspurs
06-23-2008, 05:02 PM
if it is true and scola does leave spur will feel 100% better about giving him to the rockets....but its hoopsworld

Bruno
06-23-2008, 05:05 PM
Oh come on, a team can not make an offer to another player already under contract, that would be a violation of FIBA rules.


It's not at all a violation of FIBA rules, a team can make an offer to a player under contract without a problem.
FIBA don't have that kind of rules. Only the NBA has a rule saying that a team can't make an offer to a player who is under contract with another NBA team.





This sounds like an unsubstantiated rumor.

DD

Agree. It sounds like BS.

Indazone
06-23-2008, 05:16 PM
Olympiacos has offer Anthony Parker $8 million US dollar net salary and all reports say deal is 99% percent done as Olympiacos will pay all salary of his left to Raptors and they will allow him leave.

Panathinaikos owners hear this and now make attempt to make "bold move" and they say "we owes Rockets back for how they treat Spanoulis"


Although I'll admit to getting the heebie jeebies when KillBill says something like this. Makes me wonder if he's getting good juice from the inside or not.

intlspurshk
06-23-2008, 05:20 PM
So V-Span will not join SPURS as he can get more $ in Europe

Indazone
06-23-2008, 05:24 PM
So V-Span will not join SPURS as he can get more $ in Europe

Very doubtful that Vspan comes anywhere near the NBA in the future. Especially when the exchange rate is now 1.55 to 1 and getting worse everyday. Navarro went back to the Euroleague and ya gotta wonder how many more are going to jump ship.

Kill_Bill_Pana
06-23-2008, 09:38 PM
Oh come on, a team can not make an offer to another player already under contract, that would be a violation of FIBA rules.

This sounds like an unsubstantiated rumor.

DD

Assistant coach of team Dimitris Itoudis is in US and is already talk with Scola and his agent and Rockets. It is only small chance Scola will sign for Panathinaikos because Rockets must agree let him from contract and they can just say no but it is not make up about this offer.

3 years $30 million NET salary is offer Panathinaikos team have make to Scola.

DaDakota
06-23-2008, 10:47 PM
Ok if they really offered that contract, it sounds like grandstanding on their part.....sort of to hoodwink the fans into thinking they are doing everything in their power to upgrade, when in reality they know that it will not happen, and actually has no chance of happening.

DD

Kill_Bill_Pana
06-24-2008, 12:56 AM
Ok if they really offered that contract, it sounds like grandstanding on their part.....sort of to hoodwink the fans into thinking they are doing everything in their power to upgrade, when in reality they know that it will not happen, and actually has no chance of happening.

DD

Not exact true. Scola and his agent agree to contract and ask Rockets let him leave and Panathinaikos tell Rockets they agree pay all his salary for last 2 years with Rockets.

Is issue that Rockets will not let him leaves contract but he and agent will do so if Rockets allows them. Is same issue as Spanoulis last year. If Scola demand trade or say he will not come back then this can happen. But Scola is not interest in try that yet.

Reports is still say that Scola and agent want to take Panathinaikos contract. This is not make up thing by Panathinaikos to looks good. They is serious and would pay 30 millions net salary. If Scola have opt out clause in NBA contract he will already be in Panathinaikos.

So this is unlikely thing to have happen that Scola will leave but do not fool self into think it is impossible. It is thing that have some small possible chance because Scola and agent really want this amounts of money.

Kill_Bill_Pana
06-24-2008, 01:16 AM
Very hard to get Scola because he have Rockets contract but so some understand this is serious attempt by PAO team to gets him when Olympiacos owners hears of this they have now offer Hornets to pay all salary left for Peja if he can leave his contract there. He is be then offer $20 million us money in the net salary for 2 years if he can get Hornets let him leave contract.

Is report Peja and agent also want do this and because Peja is Greek citizen and his wife is Greek and he live there and his wife want go back live there. So same thing is these players is want go and get more money but NBA teams contract is blocks them. Same problem Kirilenko have last year when he try get Jazz let him from his contract so he can sign to CSKA.

But Olympiacos already get Anthony Parker as Raptors let him go from contract. if they cannot get Peja from Hornets then they is to sign Azubuike of NBA.

Panathinaikos if cannot get Scola then second choice will be Delfino but maybe they will need offer him more money. So far him and agent ask for more than they offers him.

But maybe all this can shows how much this is now in money. Panathinaikos and Olympiacos is enter new era. The owners have say they will now try to compete with NBA and make super teams in Europe. They is willing pay any amount but can only so far get interest from players that have already play in Europe before or American ones like Azubuike that is want more money.

Indazone
06-24-2008, 01:46 AM
In that case, I would like to see the Euroleague try to take a run at Gilbert Arenas. Agent Zero. Maybe Shawn Marion. Doubt that would happen but would be interesting if nothing else than but for the sheer spectacle it would be.

Kill_Bill_Pana
06-24-2008, 02:57 AM
In that case, I would like to see the Euroleague try to take a run at Gilbert Arenas. Agent Zero. Maybe Shawn Marion. Doubt that would happen but would be interesting if nothing else than but for the sheer spectacle it would be.

But is very hard because Greek League rules is that each team is only allow to have 2 American players. Like Olympiacos already have Lynn Greer and Qyntel Woods and to sign Parker is only possible because he have EU passport I think from Israel or maybe that is wrong and when he sign Woods or Greer must leave team. I am not sure.

is not like NBA where league allow team sign any player they want. Greek league is only allow for 2 American player and 4 non EU player all rest of team must be Greek players. Is these type of rules makes very hard to sign Americans from NBA even though teams want to.

Indazone
06-24-2008, 09:37 AM
I am going to make a prediction. First I think the Euroleague will end up changing their rules about how many Americans can play. Second I think you'll see a lot of American players come over. Third, I think the NBA will throw out their rookie cap rule to compete for rookies. I also think that the NBA will eventually throw out their veteran cap rules for the LLE and MLE and the team CAP. Either that or the Euroleague will come up with Caps themselves after a long negotiation with the NBA. After a long time battling for players, their will be an agreement and an expanded NBA/Euroleague combined league.

magic.
06-24-2008, 09:45 AM
...their will be an agreement and an expanded NBA/Euroleague combined league.

you're very optimistic...

hater
06-24-2008, 10:52 AM
this is ridiculous. please :rolleyes

Scola was near NBA rookie of the year. Tons of NBA teams would want him. No way in hell he is going to shitty Euroleague

angelbelow
06-24-2008, 02:46 PM
sucks for the rockets big time if true.

Marcus Bryant
06-24-2008, 03:39 PM
:lol

Surprise, surprise...the usual suspect is blowing this dumb rumor up.

Harry Callahan
06-24-2008, 05:04 PM
Why would Scola go to all the trouble of coming over here and then going right back. Sounds like a crazy rumor to me. If there is truth to it and #4 for Houston wants to go back to Europe, then there was not a chance in the world of making the guy happy.

However, this one does not pass the smell test to me at this point.

T Park
06-24-2008, 05:13 PM
Happened with Dino radja.

Wouldn't shock me if it happened again.

DaDakota
06-25-2008, 12:31 AM
It can't happen, the Rockets would not let Scola out of his contract.......for nothing...they wouldn't let V-Span out of his contract either......

The only reason V-Span got released was that the Spurs needed cap room and traded the rights to Scola for him.

A contract is a contract, but the NBA is going to have to deal with the Euroleague soon, because the dollar is crap.

DD

Kill_Bill_Pana
06-25-2008, 02:20 AM
Is report by Panathinaikos even though they make this offer and Scola and agent wants it because many time more money than he can make in NBA Rockets refuse agree let him from contract and refuse allow PAO pay all contract off also.

Scola not have opt out clause in contract so is control all by Rockets. Bad thing though this will probable not make Scola so happy that he have chance for $30 million contract with no taxes and Rockets block him from this.

I believe Rockets better make sure Scola is more important and get more play time next year because these type thing of money and contract can make player mad at team.

nashzilla
06-25-2008, 03:49 AM
nobody's wanted to play in greece since leonidas died. good luck with all this greece. isn't pro hockey trying to do this same thing???