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TheWriter
02-01-2005, 01:05 AM
Be honest, at the start of the seaosn, did you think we could be at 40 wins and only have 10 loses?

I didn't. I'm glad we are though. :hat

violentkitten
02-01-2005, 01:10 AM
at the start of the season i thought my balls itched.

TheWriter
02-01-2005, 01:11 AM
Just to compare.

When we hit 37 in the last season five seasons:

2003-2004: 37-19
2002-2003: 37-16
2001-2002: 37-21
2000-2001: 37-18
1999-2000: 37-20

myhc
02-01-2005, 01:14 AM
at the start of the season i thought my balls itched.

i'm your man if they still itch.

boutons
02-01-2005, 01:16 AM
That's a win rate heading for a 66 - 16 season

And wait til the Spurs start to SPAM! :)

violentkitten
02-01-2005, 01:21 AM
i'm your man if they still itch.

sorry chief. i may be a kitten but i still like pussy

TDfan2007
02-01-2005, 01:23 AM
We haven't even hit our stride yet.

That's the scary part. :smokin :smokin

whottt
02-01-2005, 01:25 AM
Some of us did...in fact some of us are still pissed about Pop's snafus in Orlando and the first Houston Game (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=150122&posted=1#post150122)

By the way...our pythagorean record projects out to 71 wins.

exstatic
02-01-2005, 01:26 AM
That's a win rate heading for a 66 - 16 season

Then, I guess my answer to the thread question was "yes", since I predicted 65 wins for this season.

whottt
02-01-2005, 01:33 AM
Then, I guess my answer to the thread question was "yes", since I predicted 65 wins for this season.

Um, in the above thread you predict 61 wins...don't be trying to bandwagon my prediction sucka...Travis coattailing it is bad enough.

boutons
02-01-2005, 01:44 AM
ESPN already updated, and of course, PHX is right there with us.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/standings?season=2005&group=conference&column=gamesBehind&order=null&seasontype=2

Look in the Last10 column, SAC would be 10-0 exept for .... ?.

========================

@ Seattle L 94 - 113
@ Memphis L 90 - 93
@ Dallas W 107 - 89
@ Houston L 80 - 81
@ Orlando L 87 - 93
@ Sacramento L 81 - 86
@ Houston L 67 - 73
@ Phoneix W 128 - 123
@ Sacramento W 103 - 73
@ Seattle W 103 - 84
=========================

4 - 6 on the road against top teams.

(5 - 6 if you want include W@LAL, I don't)

Feb opportunities to keep moving towards .500+ :

(Thu 2 @ LAL, for those you who still bother to think about LAL)
Wed 9 @ Washington
Sun 13 @ Miami
Mon 28 @ Cleveland

Mr. Body
02-01-2005, 02:26 AM
I don't know how much better this team can get, really. One growth area: Manu and Tony seem to be getting better as the season goes on. They're learning how to take games over. That's serious deadly for other teams.

tophy7
02-01-2005, 02:49 AM
ESPN already updated, and of course, PHX is right there with us.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/standings?season=2005&group=conference&column=gamesBehind&order=null&seasontype=2

Look in the Last10 column, SAC would be 10-0 exept for .... ?.

========================

@ Seattle L 94 - 113
@ Memphis L 90 - 93
@ Dallas W 107 - 89
@ Houston L 80 - 81
@ Orlando L 87 - 93
@ Sacramento L 81 - 86
@ Houston L 67 - 73
@ Phoneix W 128 - 123
@ Sacramento W 103 - 73
@ Seattle W 103 - 84
=========================

4 - 6 on the road against top teams.

(5 - 6 if you want include W@LAL, I don't)

Feb opportunities to keep moving towards .500+ :

(Thu 2 @ LAL, for those you who still bother to think about LAL)
Wed 9 @ Washington
Sun 13 @ Miami
Mon 28 @ Cleveland

I'm just curious as to why you count houston as apart of the top teams and don't include la? la has a better record than houston and has beaten them twice.

usckk
02-01-2005, 03:03 AM
No Kobe.

boutons
02-01-2005, 04:37 AM
"houston as apart of the top teams"

that's an admitted aberration, but how can one not count team in our division that has beaten us twice? Other people are still saying MIN and HOU could give SA problems. A team that we haven't beaten?

the LA angle is just that I refuse to give LA any benefit of the doubt. as I said, put them in if you want.

The "road record against top teams" means less now that SA has beaten PHX, SAC, and SEA, and I'm sure by the end of Feb, the Spurs will be above .500.

samikeyp
02-01-2005, 08:37 AM
my question is how you can include Orlando as a "top team" when they are only four games over .500 in a weak East.

what criteria are you using to determine who a top team is? Is it playoff seeding?

ducks
02-01-2005, 08:41 AM
at the start of the season i thought my balls itched.

kittens have no balls

SpursWoman
02-01-2005, 09:04 AM
Gotdamn, ducks....YOMANK! :cuss




:lmao

travis2
02-01-2005, 09:07 AM
Be honest, at the start of the seaosn, did you think we could be at 40 wins and only have 10 loses?

I didn't. I'm glad we are though. :hat


I said 65 wins. So I guess that would be a "yes" from me. :)

Experiment2100
02-01-2005, 09:08 AM
at the start of the season i thought my balls itched.

I know of a cream for that if you still have that problem.

LilMissSPURfect
02-01-2005, 09:18 AM
sorry chief. i may be a kitten but i still like pussy
aaaaahhhhhheeem

violentkitten
02-01-2005, 09:39 AM
kittens have no balls


http://carcino.gen.nz/images/image.php/3e202b33/A+Cat+with+Balls.jpg


sure we do

boutons
02-01-2005, 10:26 AM
Orlando as a "top team"

They were higher up in the east, they gave us fits at SA, and then beat us in ORL, when we had played no other seeded EC team on the road. They sagged a little, but now they just beat ec #3 WAS B2B, home and away. Are still the only EC seeded team, #5 that we have played on the road.

samikeyp
02-01-2005, 10:38 AM
higher up than who in the east?

what are you criteria for determining who is a top team? or is it just an opinion thing? Just curious.

boutons
02-01-2005, 10:58 AM
As I said, when I sliced the Spur record a few weeks ago as "road games against top teams" Orlando was doing pretty well, and had beaten us in ORL, and were 4th or 5th in the EC, still are, and were the only credible playoff EC team we had played on the road.

Top Teams are the WC playoff teams minus 8th seed, (and LAL), plus anybody who has given us trouble, like SWD neighbor HOU. In the EC, it's only DET, WAS, MIA, CLE. ORL, and maybe surging CHI who is EC-best 8-2 over Last10. We still have to play all of those EC teams, minus ORL, on the road.

I think the "losing road record against top teams" anomaly will be normalized by the end of Feb. Nobody wanted to hear about it, but it was a definite anomaly, as is the anomaly "lost more games to sub.-500 teams than to over-.500 teams". The Spurs are finally playing very road-tough these last few games, PHX, SAC, SEA, awesome!

samikeyp
02-01-2005, 11:09 AM
I know what you said....what you didn't say until your last post was...


Top Teams are the WC playoff teams minus 8th seed, (and LAL), plus anybody who has given us trouble, like SWD neighbor HOU. In the EC, it's only DET, WAS, MIA, CLE. ORL, and maybe surging CHI who is EC-best 8-2 over Last10. We still have to play all of those EC teams, minus ORL, on the road.

I was wanting your definition of a top team. I do see one flaw in that theory though...you said "plus anyone who has given us trouble" Toronto and Utah have beaten the Spurs...by your criteria they would be top teams. I would respectfully have to disagree.

samikeyp
02-01-2005, 11:13 AM
for the record....

against the current top 8 in the east: 9-1 (the only loss @ ORL)
against the current top 8 in the west: 12-4 (losses @SEA, SEA, @MEM, @SAC)

boutons
02-01-2005, 11:14 AM
but lottery-bound TOR and UTA are not in the path to the NBA title, while the other teams could be or at least be in the playoffs.

TOR and UTA are in the "sub-.500 teams that have beaten the Spurs" anomaly due to the Spurs' inconsistency, esp on the road.

samikeyp
02-01-2005, 11:18 AM
Agreed but I think "teams that give us trouble" is way too broad of a criteria. Whenever the Spurs lose, that team gave them trouble that night. Houston is not on the path to the NBA title either, they are not even in the playoffs at this time. If not for a miraculous T-Mac performance, the series is tied.

FromWayDowntown
02-01-2005, 11:27 AM
but lottery-bound TOR and UTA are not in the path to the NBA title, while the other teams could be or at least be in the playoffs.

TOR and UTA are in the "sub-.500 teams that have beaten the Spurs" anomaly due to the Spurs' inconsistency, esp on the road.

But somehow, the "wouldn't qualify for the playoffs Rockets" are an impediment while the "would be a 7th seed (and, therefore actually in the playoffs) Lakers" aren't?

Are you channeling Kreskin?

Jimcs50
02-01-2005, 11:35 AM
I predicted this in November.



:angel

boutons
02-01-2005, 11:39 AM
I said, as my personal insult to the Lakers, that I don't consider LAL an impediment.

And I also said, for those who want to include them, put in the single road W@LAL, it didn't change the original anomaly (which is evaporating).

FromWayDowntown
02-01-2005, 12:27 PM
But the anomaly exists, really, only because you choose amorphous criteria to decide what counts and what doesn't.

Against teams that would actually qualify for the playoffs (as of today) the Spurs are 7-4!! (wins at PNX, SEA, SAC, DAL, LAL, PHIL, CHI; losses at SEA, SAC, MEM, and ORL).

boutons
02-01-2005, 01:00 PM
Throwing out the HOU losses seems pretty strange. HOU has beaten us twice, will play us 2 more season times and whom the Spurs, as #1 WC seed, could very well see as #8 WC seed, while the Spurs aren't in any way going to see PHI or CHI on between now and June.

whatever, the Spurs are getting tough on the road against whatever top teams, which is what I was looking at originally.

samikeyp
02-01-2005, 01:41 PM
but if Houston doesn't make the playoffs, its irrelevant because the Spurs won't face them.

Useruser666
02-01-2005, 01:50 PM
The really alarming stat is that when the Spurs have fewer points at the end of the fourth quarter than the other team, they are 0-10 !!!

samikeyp
02-01-2005, 01:56 PM
as usual....User is right on the money! Well done, brother! :lol

Jimcs50
02-01-2005, 02:03 PM
The really alarming stat is that when the Spurs have fewer points at the end of the fourth quarter than the other team, they are 0-10 !!!


are you sure?

I thought they won one of those games in OT.

samikeyp
02-01-2005, 02:08 PM
No Jim, that was the other one. :lol

Jimcs50
02-01-2005, 02:11 PM
This is the reason that the Spurs have this great record:

Manu's CAREER AVERAGES
Rebounds
Year Team MPG FG% 3P% FT% Off Def Tot APG SPG BPG TO A/TO PF PPG
2002-03 SA 20.7 .438 .345 .737 0.7 1.7 2.3 2.0 1.4 0.2 1.4 1.4 2.5 7.6
2003-04 SA 29.4 .418 .359 .802 1.1 3.4 4.5 3.8 1.8 0.2 2.1 1.8 2.4 12.8
2004-05 SA 29.8 .489 .394 .803 1.0 3.4 4.4 3.9 1.8 0.4 2.3 1.7 2.6 15.9
Totals 26.4 .443 .365 .787 0.9 2.7 3.7 3.2 1.6 0.3 1.9 1.7 2.4 11.7

Look at the improvement in Manu's shooting stats from last year....I think that is one of the most drastic improvements in Spurs history. Come on, from shooting 42% to 49%???? That is UNBELIEVABLE. :smokin

CHAMPS AGAIN
02-01-2005, 05:32 PM
I said 37-10 after last night game.