Mavericks Trying To Get Diop Back To Dallas?

[crc21209]

Jun 26, 2008 2:56 AM EST

The Dallas Mavericks are planning on offer their full mid-level exception to Nets free agent DeSagana Diop, the Dallas Morning News is reporting.

Diop was with the Mavs for the last three seasons before being shipped out to New Jersey in the Jason Kidd trade.

Teams cannot negotiate with free agents until July 1, and contracts cannot be signed until July 8.

Via Dallas Morning News


http://realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/53193/20080626/mavericks_trying_to_get_diop_back_to_dallas/

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very nice, but the full MLE?

anyways, i definitely would like to have Diop back. we really missed having a backup defensive presence. every time Damp would go out, teams were able to slice through our defense with ease.

[monosylab1k]

I was drinking coffee when I read this thread, and quite literally did a spit-take when I saw that they were offering the full MLE. Please don't let that be true.

This franchise is run by morons.

[mbass]

very nice, but the full MLE?

anyways, i definitely would like to have Diop back. we really missed having a backup defensive presence. every time Damp would go out, teams were able to slice through our defense with ease.

Diop is living in Dallas and is working out at the Cooper aerobics center. I fully expect him to be a Maverick this fall.

[Kindergarten Cop]

very nice, but the full MLE?

I was hoping that he was on the Spurs short list of FAs this offseason, but I was thinking more in the lines of $2-2.5M/yr max. I find it hard to believe that any team, even one with sentimental ties like Dallas, would offer him that type of money.

[MavDynasty]

There goes our plans for any one else if they're offering the full MLE...

[loveforthegame]

The entire MLE is way too much for Diop but that's what it will probably take for Dallas to get him back. I don't think Cuban and company can talk him into taking less after trading him to NJ.

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i am actually quite eager to see what he could do for us with a different coach. its obvious when you look back, that avery messed with his psyche a lot by never being consistent with using him, and the ways he used him. he showed early last year that he worked a lot on being more aggressive offensively.

im just eager period to see what a coaching change will do for this team. so far, everyone seems in their interviews like they are quite happy with the change. this coming season will really show whether it was the players being lazy, or avery that was the issue with this team. i believe its the latter.

[monosylab1k]

I love Diop and want him back, but giving him the full MLE is just stupid.

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I love Diop and want him back, but giving him the full MLE is just stupid.

i couldnt agree more

[A.H 21-50]

a full Mle for diop is unbelivable
he's not bad but really he didn't worth more than 2 millions

[Kindergarten Cop]

Cuban obviously has deep pockets, but does he really believe that Diop is worth shelling out nearly $12M/year for?

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Cuban obviously has deep pockets, but does he really believe that Diop is worth shelling out nearly $12M/year for?

you obviously are a noob, but are you really this fucking retarded to think that Diop would be getting nearly $12M a year? are you also so retarded to think a MLE will get you that much? thats more than Terry makes.

[MavDynasty]

MLE is 5.3m i think...not 12m lol

[Kindergarten Cop]

you obviously are a noob, but are you really this fucking retarded to think that Diop would be getting nearly $12M a year? are you also so retarded to think a MLE will get you that much? thats more than Terry makes.


:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao :lmao

Obviously you don't know how this works.

I didn't say anything about Diop "getting $12M/year" or the MLE being that high. I asked if Cuban thought that Diop would be worth shellling out $12M/year for. If you know anything about the Mavs' salary cap situation, you are aware that they are WELL over the Luxury Tax threshold with only 9 players under contract. That means that whatever contract they sign or take on, Cuban will have to pay a dollar-for-dollar tax to the league. The MLE will likely be around $5.8M this season, so that means that Cuban will have to pay nearly $12M for Diop if he uses the full MLE on him.

[MavDynasty]

:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao :lmao

Obviously you don't know how this works.

I didn't say anything about Diop "getting $12M/year" or the MLE being that high. I asked if Cuban thought that Diop would be worth shellling out $12M/year for. If you know anything about the Mavs' salary cap situation, you are aware that they are WELL over the Luxury Tax threshold with only 9 players under contract. That means that whatever contract they sign or take on, Cuban will have to pay a dollar-for-dollar tax to the league. The MLE will likely be around $5.8M this season, so that means that Cuban will have to pay nearly $12M for Diop if he uses the full MLE on him.

damn.

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:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao :lmao

:lmao


Obviously you don't know how this works.

i suppose not


I didn't say anything about Diop "getting $12M/year" or the MLE being that high. I asked if Cuban thought that Diop would be worth shellling out $12M/year for. If you know anything about the Mavs' salary cap situation, you are aware that they are WELL over the Luxury Tax threshold with only 9 players under contract. That means that whatever contract they sign or take on, Cuban will have to pay a dollar-for-dollar tax to the league. The MLE will likely be around $5.8M this season, so that means that Cuban will have to pay nearly $12M for Diop if he uses the full MLE on him.

im aware of all that. but judging by your post history i didnt think logic was one of your strong points so i figured you were really so retarded to think that an MLE would get a player $12M. apparently you are smarter than i figured. congrats to you :toast


Man, I bet you feel pretty damn stupid now.:rollin

yes very stupid :rolleyes

:jack

[Kindergarten Cop]

im aware of all that. but judging by your post history i didnt think logic was one of your strong points so i figured you were really so retarded to think that an MLE would get a player $12M. apparently you are smarter than i figured. congrats to you :toast

My post history? Not knowing what "KFC" meant? And I'm the retarded one. Maybe you should check your own knowledge before criticizing that of others.

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My post history? Not knowing what "KFC" meant? And I'm the retarded one. Maybe you should check your own knowledge before criticizing that of others.

lol fast food gangs

:wow

[MavDynasty]

lol fast food gangs

:wow

lol raiders

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lol raiders

lol findawg

[Kindergarten Cop]

lol fast food gangs

:wow


What do you expect when someone keeps responding with "KFC" or "KFC motherfucker"? This and I'm the one that has MY post history in question?:wow

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What do you expect when someone keeps responding with "KFC" or "KFC motherfucker"?

a better response than calling someone a bully and part of a fast food gang whatever the fuck that is


This and I'm the one that has MY post history in question?

yes

[Kindergarten Cop]

a better response than calling someone a bully and part of a fast food gang whatever the fuck that is

You were using bully tactics, which obviously were ineffective, with the "gtfo" or "KFC motherfucker" when I was seeking a simple answer - so what I said was accurate. Anyways, you have serious issues that I'll let you deal with on your own. I respect most Mavs' fans and enjoy talking basketball, but posters like you give your team a bad name.

[MavDynasty]

a better response than calling someone a bully and part of a fast food gang whatever the fuck that is



yes

:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

[Findog]

"According to an NBA source..." the Mavs want to give Diop the full MLE. This NBA source might be his agent trying to fake out other teams for his services or get the Mavs to up their offer. I'd give him half of the MLE.

[monosylab1k]

"According to an NBA source..." the Mavs want to give Diop the full MLE. This NBA source might be his agent trying to fake out other teams for his services or get the Mavs to up their offer. I'd give him half of the MLE.

I approve of the "half to Diop, half to CJ Miles" strategy that many in Mavs-fandom are hoping for.

If they give the full MLE to Diop I'm going to buy the rights to firedonnie.com

[Findog]

It's too bad Posey will likely resign with Boston, that's a guy Dallas should be offering their entire MLE towards.

[Findog]

I approve of the "half to Diop, half to CJ Miles" strategy that many in Mavs-fandom are hoping for.

If they give the full MLE to Diop I'm going to buy the rights to firedonnie.com

That would be fine with me as well, along with resigning Antoine Wright and trading Josh for Michael Redd.

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You were using bully tactics, which obviously were ineffective, with the "gtfo" or "KFC motherfucker" when I was seeking a simple answer - so what I said was accurate. Anyways, you have serious issues that I'll let you deal with on your own. I respect most Mavs' fans and enjoy talking basketball, but posters like you give your team a bad name.

great

:sleep

[baseline bum]

You gotta overpay for bigmen.

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It's too bad Posey will likely resign with Boston, that's a guy Dallas should be offering their entire MLE towards.

i was pissed last year when they didnt get him.

[clambake]

That would be fine with me as well, along with resigning Antoine Wright and trading Josh for Michael Redd.

i just can't see them trading josh.

[monosylab1k]

Seriously, Donnie better not fuck up badly for another offseason. He should have been out the door with Avery but this better be his last chance. Giving Diop the full MLE and keeping Josh isn't a good start.

[Findog]

I guess if you're the Mavericks, these are your assets to trade:

- $ 3 million if you want to move up and buy a late twenties pick

- Brandon Bass

- Josh Howard

- the full MLE

- Jerry Stackhouse's cap-friendly contract

- Jason Kidd's expiring contract if you decide to give up on him and go a different direction

- Devean George's Bird Rights to match salary in a s'n't.

Honestly, the Mavs shouldn't worry too much about "tweaking" the next couple of years. They should keep Dirk and then do everything in their power to create cap space to make a run at Durant. I don't think he will resign with OKC, and he could be to Dirk what Duncan was to Robinson. I think strategically the Mavs should be thinking about 2010 and Durant.

[Kindergarten Cop]

That would be fine with me as well, along with resigning Antoine Wright and trading Josh for Michael Redd.


I think Josh's trade value took a significant hit due to his remarks regarding his drug use. Not only that, but Dallas would have to throw in a lot more to make the deal work.

[monosylab1k]

i just can't see them trading josh.

they've already got the story spun too - reports are that teams are lowballing the Mavs in any trade involving Josh. I call horse shit, this is their excuse for keeping him. "We couldn't trade him cuz nobody would give us a fair trade :cry"

[Findog]

i just can't see them trading josh.

It's a bear market for Josh right now, so they might not. I would rather keep him than trade him for far below his value.

[Findog]

I think Josh's trade value took a significant hit due to his remarks regarding his drug use. Not only that, but Dallas would have to throw in a lot more to make the deal work.

Stack has only $9 million in guaranteed money coming to him, but his cap figure for this season is $7 million, so that would be a huge chunk towards matching salary. Maybe we can get Bobby Simmons or Desmond Mason at the same time to pair with Antoine Wright for a platoon situation at SF. The Mavs desperately need size and scoring at the 2-spot, and Redd would be a perfect fit. Howard is a swingman that thinks he's a shooter, and a lot of the hustling, intangible little things that he used to do can be done by Wright and Mason.

[monosylab1k]

Honestly, the Mavs shouldn't worry too much about "tweaking" the next couple of years. They should keep Dirk and then do everything in their power to create cap space to make a run at Durant. I don't think he will resign with OKC, and he could be to Dirk what Duncan was to Robinson. I think strategically the Mavs should be thinking about 2010 and Durant.

:tu 100% in agreement.

I don't see it happening tho. A strategy like that would require intelligence, something our GM has none of.

[Kindergarten Cop]

Stack has only $9 million in guaranteed money coming to him, but his cap figure for this season is $7 million, so that would be a huge chunk towards matching salary. Maybe we can get Bobby Simmons or Desmond Mason at the same time to pair with Antoine Wright for a platoon situation at SF. The Mavs desperately need size and scoring at the 2-spot, and Redd would be a perfect fit. Howard is a swingman that thinks he's a shooter, and a lot of the hustling, intangible little things that he used to do can be done by Wright and Mason.

I think if this trade would have been presented last season, the Bucks may consider it - but I don't see why they would do it now. I have to believe that they could get more for Redd if they chose to trade him, but I could be wrong. I would have thought Memphis could have gotten much, much more for Gasol.

[Findog]

:tu 100% in agreement.

I don't see it happening tho. A strategy like that would require intelligence, something our GM has none of.

And the MLE in the meantime is something that should go to finding another Brandon Bass: young, athletic guys buried around the league that can play but just need an opportunity. Of course Bass wasn't going to get a lot of minutes behind David West in New Orleans.

In a very short space of time, this team was transformed from a young, athletic core with lots of playoff experience to an older and decrepit one. They need to stockpile young bodies.

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Stack has only $9 million in guaranteed money coming to him, but his cap figure for this season is $7 million, so that would be a huge chunk towards matching salary. Maybe we can get Bobby Simmons or Desmond Mason at the same time to pair with Antoine Wright for a platoon situation at SF. The Mavs desperately need size and scoring at the 2-spot, and Redd would be a perfect fit. Howard is a swingman that thinks he's a shooter, and a lot of the hustling, intangible little things that he used to do can be done by Wright and Mason.

I would love Mason and his hustle/athleticism/defense to go along with Kidd.

[Findog]

I would have thought Memphis could have gotten much, much more for Gasol.

They gave him away because the owner is trying to sell the team and he wanted to reduce the payroll as much as possible

[Kindergarten Cop]

They gave him away because the owner is trying to sell the team and he wanted to reduce the payroll as much as possible

Add that to a President of Basketball Operations that has significant ties to the trading partner.:(

[Findog]

Add that to a President of Basketball Operations that has significant ties to the trading partner.:(

Yeah, the whole thing was total crap. They got a good player for nothing. Of course, too bad for them that Gasol is a complete ninny and folds at the slightest bit of applied pressure.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

ninny
:lol

[MavDynasty]

Donnie and the FO have to realize Dirk doesnt have too many years left so they better stop fucking around. i dont want Dirk to be like malone and having to ride another teams nuts to get a ring.

[SenorSpur]

The Mavs had only one chip to play this offseason and they blow it on Diop? Brilliant!

[MavDynasty]

The Mavs had only one chip to play this offseason and they blow it on Diop? Brilliant!

and theres the mavs FO for u.

[Findog]

This is just some anonymous dude talking to a newspaper. Not very concrete.

[greensborohill]

The dude that gave up Barry Bonds 756 homerun is apparently connected as far as Mavericks BBall goes. . . . he said his source has confirmed that Diop will not get the entire MLE.

[bostonguy]

Land Diop for half the MLE if possible. The Mavs need to get Dirk help. He is too fucking a great a talent to watch his prime years get pissed away like this.

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You are obviously a noob, and stupid I might add. You should apologize, and go hide your head in a sand box:blah

:flypig

[Red Hawk #21]

Land Diop for half the MLE if possible. The Mavs need to get Dirk help. He is too fucking a great a talent to watch his prime years get pissed away like this.


I definetely agree, he deserves a ring. Mavs management better step up and help this guy and if they don't Dirk better be wise enough to ask for a trade before he starts declining.