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    1 Minute Ago
    They can't trade for him until after the moratorium, so no. But it's believed he altered his guaranteed date in exchange for increasing the amount.
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    6 Hours Ago
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    Not if Gary Neal is guarding them.
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    6 Hours Ago
    Hmm, it looks like Murray makes like $50k too little to make allow this trade to happen right now (without other salary added in). The Spurs can take back $20.428 Million for just Murray's salary, but Gallo makes $20.475 Million. Ugh. This isn't like normal trade rules that allow up to a $100k...
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  • Chinook's Avatar
    8 Hours Ago
    Robz is talking about first-round picks. The Spurs have 11 off the top of my head: all of their own plus CHA 23, CHI25, ATL 25 and ATL 27.
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    8 Hours Ago
    I'm not sure, since I don't see a real indication it was called in. But it would be hard for me to see why SA wouldn't care about giving Gallo $10 Million more. I could see ATL wanting to wait to potentially draw this into a bigger deal to get like Capela, but it would be weird for SA to let them...
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    8 Hours Ago
    I think they want 2023 picks, and they don't want to spend cap space when they wouldn't need to to complete the deal. They're definitely playing the asset-collection game, though I'm hoping for an NOP style rebuild rather than a LAL style.
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    8 Hours Ago
    I do think the team was going to have to find a better player than Murray if they were going to be a contender, and I didn't know if he'd be able to accept that. We'll get a sense of that when we see him with Young. The Hawks don't need Murray to be a true star. They need him to play a role and...
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    8 Hours Ago
    I'm really happy the team got Pop that record last year and Murray got SA another All-Star appearance. Last year mattered as a fan. I know folks wanted to tank, but I'm glad they didn't. These are good memories. They aren't rings, but just like the 2015 SL title, it's one of those little things...
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    8 Hours Ago
    I'd be okay with, especially if they get a 2024 second. But I'd probably want to use the cap space first to get other assets. The Spurs have a true max slot now that the Murray trade went through.
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    8 Hours Ago
    If we believe Windhorst, I do think it's possible that Klutch came up to the Spurs and mentioned Murray wanted to hold off on discussions on an extension until the next season. I just think that the Spurs almost certainly didn't count on being able to give him that extension in the first place....
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    8 Hours Ago
    Yep. The Knicks trade depends on Portland getting cap space so they can take Grant and give the Pistons the 2025 MKE pick Detroit is sending to New York for Duren and Kemba. The Knicks currently have Duren free and clear and could technically change their minds, as could Detroit or Portland. The...
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    9 Hours Ago
    It's more likely to convert than not. The Hornets have their own All-Star PG and are trying to win. It's not likely they miss the playoffs three years in a row. The Spurs can help them out by trading them Poeltl, though.
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    9 Hours Ago
    It's important to know that Windhorst is either lying, or Klutch antagonistic for no reason. Murray couldn't sign a contract this year. http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q51 The bolded parts are the important parts. Murray's third anniversary from his extension is 10/22/2022. The...
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    9 Hours Ago
    How many teams haven't been to the lottery at all in the past three years? Eight. Only four have made the playoffs five times in a row, and only one has done it more than six times. It's actually not very likely that Atlanta will avoid conveying a lotto pick three years in a row to SA. Spurs fans...
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    10 Hours Ago
    Trade Poeltl for a first and then call NYK and tell them they can dump Fournier for Duren. You already know the Knicks don't care about verbal agreements.
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    10 Hours Ago
    It wasn't four picks, and the article doesn't say it was. What it was is three picks and a swap, which is undoubtedly more than three picks. In order of value, I'd put it. 2025 first 2027 first 2026 swap 2023 CHA first The Spurs can control three years of the Hawks' drafts. That's much...
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  • Chinook's Avatar
    11 Hours Ago
    So that trade is getting called in today if the Spurs are really going to waive Gallo. I would have preferred getting something back in the deal that could factor into this year, but it seems like keeping Murray was untenable.
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    11 Hours Ago
    I legit used to really want him to be a Spur back in the the DeRozan/Aldridge era. He had the skillset to fit in with those guys. Obviously times have changed.
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    13 Hours Ago
    I do think there's a legit chance they keep him if they can get him on a short-term deal. If they happen to get some improvement out of him, that will be one more trade asset. They could also use some continuity in their guard room.
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  • -21-'s Avatar
    13 Hours Ago
    im pretty sure the knicks or some other team couldve coughed up a more enticing offer had they waited but this trade makes sense when u consider the FO probably wanted to do right by murray and send him to his ideal destination
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  • Chinook's Avatar
    13 Hours Ago
    Looks like we're all in now, riding with Primo as the new franchise player. We'll see. This would be one of the biggest called-shots in NBA history
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  • Chinook's Avatar
    13 Hours Ago
    Yep, and I do sort of have egg on my face anyway. Maybe the actual package splits the difference between the worry about all protected picks and the hope I had of multiple unprotected picks and Okongwu. But I still thought they'd walk away for this amount they settled for.
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    13 Hours Ago
    Yeah, THIS is how you get unprotected picks. Teams aren't going to trade them in the near years. I don't love the Spurs playing that long of a game, but for four straight drafts they'll have a potential lotto pick no matter where they are on their development tract. That's not bad. It's just not...
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    13 Hours Ago
    I think so. Atlanta had to move today with Gallo's guarantee date. That is how the swap got added in. But they're saying it's not even including ATL's 2023 first, so tanking isn't the goal here. I guess Murray really wanted to leave and just handled it way better than we're used to seeing. I'll...
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    15 Hours Ago
    That's the lineup the Spurs used for most of the end of the year. If Primo is really their golden ticket, he's going to start, whether he's the future PG or not. He's not going to get Murray's scraps. So if Murray and Primo are starting, then Vassell would be the three and Johnson the four. For...
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    16 Hours Ago
    It used to be disallowed because refs tend to only have five fingers on each hand. But still, it's good that the Spurs will be able to retire his jersey.
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    17 Hours Ago
    That SA has been out of the cap-space selling suggests that they haven't decided to pack it in for the year yet. To a certain extent, it could just be because other teams are selling their space cheaply. But it gives me the sense that they do want the option to open up max space but that they...
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    1 Day Ago
    I'm not calling timvp's credibility into question. I think he does his work and doesn't overstate what he's heard. But I don't think the Twitter accounts have the same experience as we do with him. They're just parroting gossip.
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    1 Day Ago
    Although this is my personal favorite gif for trade demands:
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