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It's more likely to convert than not. The Hornets have their own All-Star PG and are trying to win. It's not likely they miss the playoffs three years in a row. The Spurs can help them out by trading them Poeltl, though.

It's important to know that Windhorst is either lying, or Klutch antagonistic for no reason. Murray couldn't sign a contract this year. http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q51 The bolded parts are the important parts. Murray's third anniversary from his extension is 10/22/2022. The...

How many teams haven't been to the lottery at all in the past three years? Eight. Only four have made the playoffs five times in a row, and only one has done it more than six times. It's actually not very likely that Atlanta will avoid conveying a lotto pick three years in a row to SA. Spurs fans...

Trade Poeltl for a first and then call NYK and tell them they can dump Fournier for Duren. You already know the Knicks don't care about verbal agreements.

It wasn't four picks, and the article doesn't say it was. What it was is three picks and a swap, which is undoubtedly more than three picks. In order of value, I'd put it. 2025 first 2027 first 2026 swap 2023 CHA first The Spurs can control three years of the Hawks' drafts. That's much...

So that trade is getting called in today if the Spurs are really going to waive Gallo. I would have preferred getting something back in the deal that could factor into this year, but it seems like keeping Murray was untenable.

I legit used to really want him to be a Spur back in the the DeRozan/Aldridge era. He had the skillset to fit in with those guys. Obviously times have changed.

I do think there's a legit chance they keep him if they can get him on a short-term deal. If they happen to get some improvement out of him, that will be one more trade asset. They could also use some continuity in their guard room.

im pretty sure the knicks or some other team couldve coughed up a more enticing offer had they waited but this trade makes sense when u consider the FO probably wanted to do right by murray and send him to his ideal destination

Looks like we're all in now, riding with Primo as the new franchise player. We'll see. This would be one of the biggest called-shots in NBA history

Yep, and I do sort of have egg on my face anyway. Maybe the actual package splits the difference between the worry about all protected picks and the hope I had of multiple unprotected picks and Okongwu. But I still thought they'd walk away for this amount they settled for.

Yeah, THIS is how you get unprotected picks. Teams aren't going to trade them in the near years. I don't love the Spurs playing that long of a game, but for four straight drafts they'll have a potential lotto pick no matter where they are on their development tract. That's not bad. It's just not...

I think so. Atlanta had to move today with Gallo's guarantee date. That is how the swap got added in. But they're saying it's not even including ATL's 2023 first, so tanking isn't the goal here. I guess Murray really wanted to leave and just handled it way better than we're used to seeing. I'll...

That's the lineup the Spurs used for most of the end of the year. If Primo is really their golden ticket, he's going to start, whether he's the future PG or not. He's not going to get Murray's scraps. So if Murray and Primo are starting, then Vassell would be the three and Johnson the four. For...

It used to be disallowed because refs tend to only have five fingers on each hand. But still, it's good that the Spurs will be able to retire his jersey.

That SA has been out of the cap-space selling suggests that they haven't decided to pack it in for the year yet. To a certain extent, it could just be because other teams are selling their space cheaply. But it gives me the sense that they do want the option to open up max space but that they...

I'm not calling timvp's credibility into question. I think he does his work and doesn't overstate what he's heard. But I don't think the Twitter accounts have the same experience as we do with him. They're just parroting gossip.

Although this is my personal favorite gif for trade demands:

I think this shows how little credibility NBA Twitter really has. No shade on LJ, but he's just a dude posting as far as these guys are concerned. That these accounts are so keen to pass along this rumor makes me basically disregard anything they post.

Also Turner is a legit injury risk. I don't know that he's positive value on a new contract.

I don't see that. I think they badly need their main guys to be able to shoot threes. We'll see if Murray explodes, but right now, he's not good enough to where everyone just plays off him. He has to be part of the group. I don't know if there's a big problem with the individuals shooting threes. I...

Although I will say I have no idea what that could have been from.

I don't have any issue with agreeing to disagree, and I'll just say here that I apologize if I misinterpreted what you meant. I don't know about that. I could imagine a situation where I was annoyed that you expected me to take something you said as a direct reply to me without posting. I...

Yeah, because the best way to "move on" is to take a jab and run.

Can't until like November. Then they can offer up to $50M/4. If the takes that, they wouldn't be able to trade him until after the season.

You know timvp is going to post a new article with its own thread soon.

Not that it means Murray's involved, but this does feel like a deal that Minny is making to give themselves a chance to make a trade.

Hmmm, you might be onto something. As far as I can tell, the Wolves have to wait until the new year to trade him now, but they are able to send him along with his 1-and-1 contract rather than having to give him a 1-and-2 contract in a sign-and-trade. That's more palatable for other teams. Also, it...