That's just terrible.Quote:
Originally Posted by AC#21_TD ERA
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That's just terrible.Quote:
Originally Posted by AC#21_TD ERA
[The Garbage Truck Vaughn will be back because no one else will sign that shit cunt if he opts out.
QUOTE=K-State Spur;2632692] That's just terrible.[/QUOTE]
Do you mean thats a terrible post or The Garbage truck JV coming back is terrible.
Correct me if I am wrong, but I think that they both qualify to get above a million with their years playing in the nba. This is their minimum.Quote:
Originally Posted by angelbelow
Spurs don't need Vaughn. Even if Hill doesn't work out, Pop has shown that come playoff time, it's better to have Ginobili/Barry as backup PG's than Vaughn.
And at this point in his career, I'm not too sure Barry is looking for more $$ or to start over. He knows he's on a great team in a system he knows and has a chance to win another ring.
I'd like to see Barry back and Vaughn, too. Yes, Vaughn is not the greatest backup PG we could hope for, but he is better than a lot of other possibilities (Damon Stoudamire comes to mind). Using Manu as backup PG on a regular basis is a very bad idea.
Is it possible for Barry and the Spurs to make a deal for more money prior to the deadline? That would be my preferernce. Barry is worth more than the minimum and I think he's a reasonable guy.
I don't think there is any way Vaughn opts out 'cause who'd give him a better deal?
Barry in as third PG Vaughn bought out
Vaughn is solid other than his J. He's on a small contract and if he doesn't opt out of it, then it will expire after next season anyways. No worries.
He's not the greatest 2nd string PG, that is for sure. But I think he'd be the top option available as a third string PG. I have doubts about Barry's ability to handle the point anymore. I'm fine with Manu being the back-up point in the postseason, but I don't like the idea of him playing long stretches there in the regular season.Quote:
Originally Posted by spurster
Keep Vaughn for the exact purposes that he was originally signed - to be the third PG and offer a security blanket (he's a known quantity, albeit a small one) in case the young player fizzles.
Vaughn was everything that the Spurs could have asked for in that role in 2007.
At what time do they have to decide whether or not to exercise their options?
I believe it is 6pm EST (7pm CST).Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr.Bottomtooth
Today, right?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kindergarten Cop
yesQuote:
Originally Posted by Mr.Bottomtooth
With the Express-News as weak as it is these days, those two could have decided a month ago and we would never know :bang
The Spurs would be well served if both do not opt to become free agents. They will need Barry next season to give them a healthy number of minutes every night. Vaughn is a very nice insurance policy. Assuming both are back then the Spurs will be able to use their MLE and LLE to go after at most two players. If Barry opts out then they may have to use part of their MLE or their LLE to re-sign him. Of course, if I was Barry, I'd opt out.
Maybe Ludden will tell us...:)Quote:
Originally Posted by timvp
i don't see either opting out...but i could be wrong.
There should be an E-N article coming out tonight about the Spurs' plans for free agency. My guess is that it won't tell us anything that we don't already know.
Why can't Kori bring some inside info?Quote:
Originally Posted by timvp
Is that possible?
I have never been that impressed with Jack. I felt like he was a descent stop-gap when Tony wasn't on the floor, but I never expected anything explosive to happen.
Meanwhile with Brent on the floor, you have a backup that can make things happen in-and-out of the Arc.
Plus he makes AWESOME HEB commercials
Kori=better than the Express-News.
We keep Vaughn as a 3rd string PG. There's no reason to buy out the contract when it will be coming off the books at the end of this upcoming season. It would just hurt us to buy him out.
I'd say with Parker, Hill, and Vaughn we have a very solid PG unit.
Barry might opt out just to get a bit more money, but who knows.
I gotta disagree about Parker being a mentor, what does age have to do with it when you've been around as long as he has been, have that many rings, that much playoff experience, a finals MVP, and knows what it's like to be a young kid under coach Pop....
I'd rather a player with that resume mentor a younger player....
I'd rather keep Vaughn than Fin.
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Originally Posted by 1Parker1
Ok, but what happens if Tony lost some games? Manu can be the Starting PG? I donīt think so
Yeah, if Tony sprains an ankle in camp the Spurs are mightily fucked for the beginning of the season without Vaughn, and then they have to try to overplay him before he's completely healthy because they need to keep pace, then he never really gets right during the season. Not worth the roster spot. This team goes as Parker goes in the playoffs more than any other player since his arrival. Granted much of that is due to Timmy's consistency, but when Parker struggles, so do the Spurs even when Timmy's game is on.Quote:
Originally Posted by waly.mg