Self says Arthur should have gone in the top 15

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06-30-2008
tlongII

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Originally Posted by Buddy Holly

tlong is chastising the Spurs for not picking the guy yet his own team who had the player traded him for a potential bust. Yeah... yeah...

I'm chastising the Spurs for taking a player that plays against inferior competition and plays a position that is not as critical for them to fill. All this while bypassing a solid frontcourt player who played against top flight competition on a regular basis.
06-30-2008
tlongII

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Originally Posted by Buddy Holly

A Blazers homer posting on average 8 times a day (who's kidding, we all know its more than that) over a 4 year span isn't the least bit pathetic to you? Huh?

Nope. It's not.
06-30-2008
K-State Spur

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Originally Posted by tlongII

I'm chastising the Spurs for taking a player that plays against inferior competition and plays a position that is not as critical for them to fill. All this while bypassing a solid frontcourt player who played against top flight competition on a regular basis.

Up until that final game, just about every time Arthur went up against a quality big, he got owned. Beasley didn't just outplay him, he abused him.

You do realize that Arthur doesn't project as a post player, correct?
06-30-2008
Marcus Bryant

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With a kidney ailment and who really doesn't fit the Spurs' offense. Great call.
06-30-2008
tlongII

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It really is a joy to post here during the summers of even years! :)
06-30-2008
coopdogg3

Re: Self says Arthur should have gone in the top 15

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Originally Posted by tlongII

I'm chastising the Spurs for taking a player that plays against inferior competition and plays a position that is not as critical for them to fill. All this while bypassing a solid frontcourt player who played against top flight competition on a regular basis.

How is a back-up PG that can play some SG less important than an under-sized, back-up PF that can't rebound - and just might have a kidney problem to boot??
06-30-2008
Buddy Holly

Re: Self says Arthur should have gone in the top 15

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Originally Posted by tlongII

I'm chastising the Spurs for taking a player that plays against inferior competition and plays a position that is not as critical for them to fill. All this while bypassing a solid frontcourt player who played against top flight competition on a regular basis.

So you avoid the actual statement I made. Which is you had the same player and instead choose a potential bust who played against inferior international competition. Do you not register any of that?

Also, what great competition was Lebron playing against? What elite composition was Tony Parker or Manu playing against when drafted? If thew Spurs saw him and felt he was what they needed at the backup point position, guess what, they're entitled to draft him.

When tlong the boy wonder becomes a scout or GM for the Blazers, then he can draft the players he feels are the best.
06-30-2008
Buddy Holly

Re: Self says Arthur should have gone in the top 15

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Originally Posted by tlongII

It really is a joy to post here during the summers of even years! :)

The sad part is, we both know that's not the only time you post.
06-30-2008
Buddy Holly

Re: Self says Arthur should have gone in the top 15

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Originally Posted by tlongII

Nope. It's not.

Well no, not to said pathetic Blazers homer.

An addict doesn't think he have a problem either.

Michael Jackson thinks it's fine to sleep with groups of children.
07-01-2008
tlongII

Re: Self says Arthur should have gone in the top 15

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Originally Posted by Buddy Holly

So you avoid the actual statement I made. Which is you had the same player and instead choose a potential bust who played against inferior international competition. Do you not register any of that?

Also, what great competition was Lebron playing against? What elite composition was Tony Parker or Manu playing against when drafted? If thew Spurs saw him and felt he was what they needed at the backup point position, guess what, they're entitled to draft him.

When tlong the boy wonder becomes a scout or GM for the Blazers, then he can draft the players he feels are the best.

I think most knowledgable basketball people would tell you that the pro leagues in Europe are superior to NCAA ball.
07-01-2008
tlongII

Re: Self says Arthur should have gone in the top 15

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Originally Posted by Buddy Holly

The sad part is, we both know that's not the only time you post.

Of course it's not. It's merely the most fun.
07-01-2008
coopdogg3

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Originally Posted by tlongII

Of course it's not. It's merely the most fun.

When is the last time the Blazers won a championship???

But you go ahead and have fun during those even years.
07-01-2008
Buddy Holly

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Originally Posted by tlongII

I think most knowledgable basketball people would tell you that the pro leagues in Europe are superior to NCAA ball.

Oh please. If knowledgeable people actually believed this well then they'd be as fucking helmet on the head retarded as you.
07-01-2008
Buddy Holly

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Originally Posted by tlongII

Of course it's not. It's merely the most fun.

Well, yeah it would be. You LIVE IN PORTLAND. What else is there to do besides buy umbrellas. :sleep
07-01-2008
K-State Spur

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Originally Posted by tlongII

the pro leagues in Europe are superior to NCAA ball.

Not all of them.
07-01-2008
spurman20

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Originally Posted by tlongII

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200....ap/index.html

This is where the Spurs completely dropped the ball. They had an opportunity to nab a guy with top 15 talent at a position of need and they failed to do it. UNBEAVABLE!

Auther is a short skinny bummmmmm he will never play D and will get pushed around by even small forwards.... He has no work ethic and will be a washout in pros....think josh McRoberts minus 2 inches!:flag:
07-01-2008
K-State Spur

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Originally Posted by spurman20

Auther is a short skinny bummmmmm he will never play D and will get pushed around by even small forwards.... He has no work ethic and will be a washout in pros....think josh McRoberts minus 2 inches!:flag:

he makes mcroberts' jumper look like larry bird's.
07-01-2008
tlongII

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Originally Posted by K-State Spur

Not all of them.

True, but I would argue that the French and Spanish leagues are.
07-01-2008
Buddy Holly

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So superior that French players are drafted every other year.
07-01-2008
tlongII

Re: Self says Arthur should have gone in the top 15

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Originally Posted by Buddy Holly

Well, yeah it would be. You LIVE IN PORTLAND. What else is there to do besides buy umbrellas. :sleep

Sorry I can't discuss this any longer. Gotta hit the sack. You probably should get some rest too. I'm sure you need to be sharp in your job as San Antonio city commissioner.
07-01-2008
Buddy Holly

Re: Self says Arthur should have gone in the top 15

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Originally Posted by tlongII

Sorry I can't discuss this any longer. Gotta hit the sack. You probably should get some rest too. I'm sure you need to be sharp in your job as San Antonio city commissioner.

Bye. You will not be missed. Understand this.
07-01-2008
coopdogg3

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Averaged 8.5 ppg and 3.5 rpg in 26 mpg in Euroleague play this year.

http://insider.espn.go.com/nbadraft/...2=stateChanged

Wow, those are some serious numbers.

One guy I can tell you about is Nicolas Batum. Teams are apparently worried about drafting Batum because of a possible heart ailment. I'd recommend avoiding him for other reasons -- like the fact that he can't play, for instance.

His numbers project to 9.6 points per 40 minutes, 39.8 percent shooting and an 8.89 PER. It's not like this was an off-year either -- his 2007 numbers are nearly identical. I understand that he's only 19, so perhaps there's some value in using a late second-round pick on him and stashing him in Europe to see if he grows, but that's about as strong a recommendation as I can muster.

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/blog/...hollinger_john

Since you like draft notes so well, here's a few on Batum. Ford likes him, to be fair, but I wouldn't get in a tizzy over his work in the EuroLeagues.

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