Beno says he and Kings agree to five-year contract

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Point guard says he and Kings agree to five-year contract

By Chad Ford
ESPN.com
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Updated: July 1, 2008, 4:10 PM ET

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The Sacramento Kings found a way to keep their starting point guard, Beno Udrih, despite some fierce competition.

Udrih and the Kings have verbally agreed to a five-year contract for the full mid-level exception, a source close to the situation told ESPN.com.

Assuming the full mid-level comes in at $5.5 million this year, Udrih would get a contract worth $33.3 million. The same source said Udrih would have a player option for the fifth year of his contract.

"I am so happy and honored to be returning to the Kings," Udrih told ESPN.com. "They took a chance on me and believed in me. I can't wait to get back to my teammates and the city that has become home to me."

The Kings outbid the Los Angeles Clippers, who also offered Udrih a five-year deal for the mid-level. Clippers coach Mike Dunleavy flew to New York and met with Udrih at 12:01 a.m. Tuesday morning -- the earliest NBA teams were permitted to commence negotiations and strike verbal agreements with free agents. Dunleavy was persuasive, but at the end of the day Udrih wanted to return to the team that gave him his big break.

The new contract is quite a turnaround for Udrih. For his first three years in the league Udrih was a little used back-up in San Antonio. At the start of last season, he was traded to Sacramento to fill in for the injured Mike Bibby. Udrih broke out and averaged 12.8 points and 4.3 assists for the Kings last season.

Chad Ford covers the NBA for ESPN Insider.

:lol

:lmao:lmao:lmao

:rollin:rollin:rollin

:lol:lol

Wow. It will be interesting to see if Mr. Udrih comes to camp with a chip on his shoulder or a bag of tacos for the guys.

That's a crapload of breakfast tacos.

Beno celebrated with 5 mexican escorts, an 8 ball, and 5 bags of tacos from Taco Bueno.

OLE!


BTW Sacramento, you just failed miserably.

$33M for Beno. ROFL. Kid was injury prone while fighting for his NBA life. Imagine now that he has guaranteed money in the bank no matter what he does. Wow.

Although this does mean two things:

1) RC made a very good pick. A late first rounder getting a max MLE deal down the line means that RC was right. He just didn't factor in that Beno's soft mentality wouldn't mesh with Pop's coaching style. But the NBA talent was definitely there.

2) The Spurs are absolutely horrible at trading assets when their value is highest. When is the last time the Spurs made a trade that was anything remotely close to a "sell high". I can't think of one in the last decade. Trading Beno after his rookie season should have been the way to go. Even during the middle of the second season. Not after he hit rock bottom.

Oh well, the Spurs are 2 for their last 2 in identifying point guard talent late in the first round. Let's hope that becomes 3 for 3.

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2) The Spurs are absolutely horrible at trading assets when their value is highest. When is the last time the Spurs made a trade that was anything remotely close to a "sell high". I can't think of one in the last decade. Trading Beno after his rookie season should have been the way to go. Even during the middle of the second season. Not after he hit rock bottom.

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Yeah but at the time, it didn't make any sense at all to trade him.

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Originally Posted by timvp

$33M for Beno. ROFL. Kid was injury prone while fighting for his NBA life. Imagine now that he has guaranteed money in the bank no matter what he does. Wow.

Although this does mean two things:

1) RC made a very good pick. A late first rounder getting a max MLE deal down the line means that RC was right. He just didn't factor in that Beno's soft mentality wouldn't mesh with Pop's coaching style. But the NBA talent was definitely there.

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True.

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2) The Spurs are absolutely horrible at trading assets when their value is highest. When is the last time the Spurs made a trade that was anything remotely close to a "sell high". I can't think of one in the last decade. Trading Beno after his rookie season should have been the way to go. Even during the middle of the second season. Not after he hit rock bottom.

Oh well, the Spurs are 2 for their last 2 in identifying point guard talent late in the first round. Let's hope that becomes 3 for 3.

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Pop ran Beno's trade value down into the Earth's core.

:lmao

$33 million for fucking Udrih??? Petrie is a jackass. This is almost as bad as his signing of John Salmons.

I dunno, Mikki Moore is right up there.

Once in the Doghouse, the trade value plumments.

Exhibit A: Matt Bonner

The guy has to be played to pique some interest around the league. Otherwise, we are relegated to Bonner and some broken down vets as trade assets.

Our three draft picks could evolve into something but their respective contracts really make them nothing more than filler.

Free Javtokas!! Could be tradeable if the right situation comes up.

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Free Javtokas!! Could be tradeable if the right situation comes up.

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How is he any better of a trade asset than anyone else?

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Originally Posted by T Park

Yeah but at the time, it didn't make any sense at all to trade him.

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Yeah it did. Beno folded in the playoffs. Paino had already emerged. NVE was brought in. That was the perfect time to sell high and get good value.

But that's not how the Spurs operate, for whatever reason.

:pctoss

unfuckingbelievable

Damn. He fucked them over.

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Originally Posted by timvp

Yeah it did. Beno folded in the playoffs. Paino had already emerged. NVE was brought in. That was the perfect time to sell high and get good value.

But that's not how the Spurs operate, for whatever reason.

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Eh, they would've been labled nuts.

I guarantee you Pop wasn't ready to give up on him at that time either.

Maybe I'm wrong.

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Originally Posted by T Park

How is he any better of a trade asset than anyone else?

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A signed Javtokas that is getting some PT would have value as an asset if the Spurs were inclined to make a trade. Of course his rights are not worth much but if he were brought over and was not a total bust, all of a sudden the Spurs would have more options such as packages that could include Udoka, the rookes, vets.

I am not saying sign him to trade him because that is stupid by itself but in the past our bench players were of very little value in regards to trading except for the expiring contracts here and there.

Wow.

Well, I guess they are expecting more out of him eh?

That's why they're called the Sacramento Queens.

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Originally Posted by T Park

Beno celebrated with 5 mexican escorts, an 8 ball, and 5 bags of tacos from Taco Bueno.

OLE!


BTW Sacramento, you just failed miserably.

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Can somebody fill me in on the taco references, where Beno is concerned? Was that his food of choice or something, while he was in SA?

I here you Timvp on the trade value point....no body wanted Beno while we had him, now all of a sudden he is commanding a 5 year $33 mil deal & we basically got nothing in return for him...I wanted to trade him to the Clipps last year & take a flyer on Karalov(sp?), tall SF kid from Russia.. it would have been better than nothing basically

Point guards are in demand.

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Originally Posted by SenorSpur

Can somebody fill me in on the taco references, where Beno is concerned? Was that his food of choice or something, while he was in SA?

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It has been posted here before that Beno was quite the fan of Taco Cabana during his tenure in our fair city.

I agree they should have gotten ridden of him when they decided he wasn't going to get playing time, especially when NVE, as bad as he was, got the nod over Beno towards the middle of the season.

So it's not our drafting that's bad, it's that we can't always develop players once they get here.

In that regard, it seems like Hill is a 'Pop guy' so that should help his chances immensely. Even if he does suck donkey balls, he'll probably still get PT.

Pop is fair in one regard: if one player is in the doghouse, there's usually a different player in the anti-doghouse who plays way too much, even when they suck horribly. NVE, Finley, Horry...

Beno's gonna be great in all 14 games he doesn't feel like pissing away.
Amazing what guaranteed money will do to a guy.

yup. they should have traded Beno early or middle of 2006.

I think Pop just kept him around to torture his lazy ass.

I don't think the Spurs wanted to trade Beno until last summer when he started talking shit to the media.

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Originally Posted by T Park

Beno celebrated with 5 mexican escorts, an 8 ball, and 5 bags of tacos from Taco Bueno.

OLE!


BTW Sacramento, you just failed miserably.

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lol

Beno played great for Sacramento. He looked nothing like the scared, inconsistent player he was in San Antonio. It's a shame. What are you gonna do ?

Great job Beno!

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Originally Posted by Ocotillo

It has been posted here before that Beno was quite the fan of Taco Cabana during his tenure in our fair city.

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Does that also mean he was quite a fan of the chicas, too?

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Originally Posted by SenorSpur

Does that also mean he was quite a fan of the chicas, too?

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:lol

I believe someone on the forum posted his myspace, and alot of this was found out through that, and some other stories but yes, he is a fan of the latinas.

Need a poll on the weight Beno shows up to training camp at. I'm going 260.

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Originally Posted by timvp

When is the last time the Spurs made a trade that was anything remotely close to a "sell high".

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Bill Curley maybe?

Erick Williams

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Originally Posted by timvp

$33M for Beno. ROFL.

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Hey, we're talking about two time NBA champion here. Those two rings's gotta be worth at least 1 million each. :stirpot:


:lol

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Originally Posted by timvp

$33M for Beno. ROFL. Kid was injury prone while fighting for his NBA life. Imagine now that he has guaranteed money in the bank no matter what he does. Wow.

Although this does mean two things:

1) RC made a very good pick. A late first rounder getting a max MLE deal down the line means that RC was right. He just didn't factor in that Beno's soft mentality wouldn't mesh with Pop's coaching style. But the NBA talent was definitely there.

2) The Spurs are absolutely horrible at trading assets when their value is highest. When is the last time the Spurs made a trade that was anything remotely close to a "sell high". I can't think of one in the last decade. Trading Beno after his rookie season should have been the way to go. Even during the middle of the second season. Not after he hit rock bottom.

Oh well, the Spurs are 2 for their last 2 in identifying point guard talent late in the first round. Let's hope that becomes 3 for 3.

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+2

highly overpaid, but i could be biased.

Lookeeee, sour grapes!:lmao

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:lol

I believe someone on the forum posted his myspace, and alot of this was found out through that, and some other stories but yes, he is a fan of the latinas.

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It's a shame a thing like BASKETBALL got in the way of his love of tacos and the chicas.:lol

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It's a shame a thing like BASKETBALL got in the way of his love of tacos and the chicas.:lol

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I believe Pop may have uttered something to that effect along the last couple years of his career in SA.

Well,
He fooled them. Amazing. An idiot savant, I say. Those hamstrings are tightening as we speak.

Party time for Beno - time to kick back and relax now.

Mhm. I will not say: "I have told you..."

And really, what did you all expect will happen? He won't get his contract?

Sometimes all it takes is a new fresh start. New team, new town, new system, new player. Beno is that player.

Pretty much the same player, just a much worse team.

forgive me or not......beno is better the jacque,damon, and hill put together.(why manu had to play so much point guard and eventually was not worth much come PO time)..imo we dumped the wrong guy...we could have let him go now.....imo dumping beno and replacing him with damon cost us a trophy....jacque couldnt do jack, neither could damon.....so good for beno...he deserves it....and the spurs FO knows during the season they let go of the wrong guy....and the person people should be rofl are jacque and mighty mouse....those are choke artist.....

Use your brain for a second Mr. Spurs. Beno, if he had stayed would have been an unrestricted FA in San Antonio. You do understand unrestricted don't you? There is no way on God's green earth that Beno was going to stay in SA beyond last year. He did not like his role, he got lazy, on and on. He wanted out. The Spurs let him go and he was able to fool the Kings. Cutting him did him a favor it turned out.

He was a liability here due to his lack of clutchness and being turnover machine. Now he can draw the big dollars and be a rock star in Sac town. No pressure. It suits him well.

damn.

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Originally Posted by sendman

Lookeeee, sour grapes!:lmao

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About the only thing Beno didn't eat in SA....

My guess on the training camp weight is 248.

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Originally Posted by exstatic

About the only thing Beno didn't eat in SA....

My guess on the training camp weight is 248.

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255 with a tiny chin showing :lol

http://z.about.com/d/sanantonio/1/0/.../champs014.jpg

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Originally Posted by timvp

2) The Spurs are absolutely horrible at trading assets when their value is highest. When is the last time the Spurs made a trade that was anything remotely close to a "sell high". I can't think of one in the last decade. Trading Beno after his rookie season should have been the way to go. Even during the middle of the second season. Not after he hit rock bottom.

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You've nailed it like you've nailed nothing else on this board.

Then you're asking Pop to change his ways.

Good for Beno. Bad for Kings.

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Originally Posted by timvp

2) The Spurs are absolutely horrible at trading assets when their value is highest. When is the last time the Spurs made a trade that was anything remotely close to a "sell high". I can't think of one in the last decade. Trading Beno after his rookie season should have been the way to go. Even during the middle of the second season. Not after he hit rock bottom.

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Agreed, especially after Pop knew that he was going to sink or swim with NVE that next year. There was no reason not to move Beno for value.

My only argument would be that nobody is particularly good at selling players at their highest.

Beno >Vaughn and the coyote.

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Originally Posted by exstatic

My guess on the training camp weight is 248.

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My guess, that is the weight of your head right now.
I can understand ignorant, but being pigheaded is another matter.

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Agreed, especially after Pop knew that he was going to sink or swim with NVE that next year. There was no reason not to move Beno for value.

My only argument would be that nobody is particularly good at selling players at their highest.

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The only thing I've seen that prompted the Spurs to move Beno was Beno's going to the press wanting to be moved.

Wow... 2 championships and now a pay day, Beno can just coast along and chill out. The Kings are fooling themselves if they think he is going to keep improving.

Even the Clippers were bidding on him?

GJ beno i guess, kings aren't going far for a couple of years...

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Originally Posted by sendman

My guess, that is the weight of your head right now.
I can understand ignorant, but being pigheaded is another matter.

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Touchy!

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Use your brain for a second Mr. Spurs. Beno, if he had stayed would have been an unrestricted FA in San Antonio. You do understand unrestricted don't you? There is no way on God's green earth that Beno was going to stay in SA beyond last year. He did not like his role, he got lazy, on and on. He wanted out. The Spurs let him go and he was able to fool the Kings. Cutting him did him a favor it turned out.

He was a liability here due to his lack of clutchness and being turnover machine. Now he can draw the big dollars and be a rock star in Sac town. No pressure. It suits him well.

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i bet ive been watching the spurs longer then you...i watch players i dont care about FA...every yr i have the league pass and i watch tons of games....pop held beno back not beno....pop wanted a guy like jacque and look now....we still got him...meaning no disrepect FA is for fans who have nothing else todo but guess...beno would toast jacque....

Beno sucked as a Spur. Plain and simple.

Beno's in the perfect situation. He has the starting spot on a lottery team and has a nice fat contract...without much pressure at all.

I can't believe Petrie gave him that contract.

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Originally Posted by Mr.Bottomtooth

Beno sucked as a Spur. Plain and simple.

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That was more due to the Spurs' ineptness than Beno's. But since I'm a Spurs fan before I'm a Beno fan I'm just glad he's no longer our problem.

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Originally Posted by sendman

My guess, that is the weight of your head right now.
I can understand ignorant, but being pigheaded is another matter.

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ahhh the benosucker is mad.

Rage much?

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Originally Posted by mrspurs

i bet ive been watching the spurs longer then you...i watch players i dont care about FA...every yr i have the league pass and i watch tons of games....pop held beno back not beno....pop wanted a guy like jacque and look now....we still got him...meaning no disrepect FA is for fans who have nothing else todo but guess...beno would toast jacque....

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Wrong

wrong
wrong
wrong

Pop didn't hold back Beno not ONE BIT..

Beno held back beno

Get a clue.

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Originally Posted by Obstructed_View

That was more due to the Spurs' ineptness than Beno's. But since I'm a Spurs fan before I'm a Beno fan I'm just glad he's no longer our problem.

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What did the Spurs do to beno, that was inept?

Too much playing time.

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Originally Posted by mrspurs

i bet ive been watching the spurs longer then you...i watch players i dont care about FA...every yr i have the league pass and i watch tons of games....pop held beno back not beno....pop wanted a guy like jacque and look now....we still got him...meaning no disrepect FA is for fans who have nothing else todo but guess...beno would toast jacque....

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no, no, no. Beno never belonged on the Spurs in the first place. That was RC's choice and Beno is too much of a puss to deal with a head coach like Pop. Beno had a couple of years to show his worth and he never did. Beno's playing time dropped, because his play got worse and worse. Pop wanted a player like Jacque, because he's a solid PG, and he can defend. Beno is a shooter/scorer that didn't fit in our system, and his head couldn't fit through the damn locker room door. How the hell can you be a bad player and go to the media to ask for a trade? That's retarted. Beno cheated himself out of a spot on this team. No reason to blame Pop.

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When is the last time the Spurs made a trade that was anything remotely close to a "sell high".

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/130500...6_ferry300.jpg

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Originally Posted by T Park

What did the Spurs do to beno, that was inept?

Too much playing time.

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Picking up his option seems to be the biggest one. Defend that decision. :lol

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Originally Posted by T Park

ahhh the benosucker is mad.

Rage much?

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What is your problem?
Are you afraid that somebody may have fatter head than you?
Don't worry, your head is an absolute winner!

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Originally Posted by Obstructed_View

Picking up his option seems to be the biggest one. Defend that decision. :lol

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The epitome of "one last chance"

Thats all :lol

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Originally Posted by sendman

What is your problem?
Are you afraid that somebody may have fatter head than you?
Don't worry, your head is an absolute winner!

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*crickets*

Fail.

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Originally Posted by T Park

Wrong

wrong
wrong
wrong

Pop didn't hold back Beno not ONE BIT..

Beno held back beno

Get a clue.

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:lol:lol:lol

I agree that Beno mostly fucked himself, however Pop was always there to help him fuck himself even more.

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:lol:lol:lol

I agree that Beno mostly fucked himself, however Pop was always there to help him fuck himself even more.

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All Pop did was play the players that didn't shrivel up.

Pop had nothing to do with it.

Like NVE, for instance

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Originally Posted by mrspurs

i bet ive been watching the spurs longer then you...i watch players i dont care about FA...every yr i have the league pass and i watch tons of games....pop held beno back not beno....pop wanted a guy like jacque and look now....we still got him...meaning no disrepect FA is for fans who have nothing else todo but guess...beno would toast jacque....

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Guess what Mrspur, you have not been watching the Spurs going back to 1978 - I can tell given the elementary sentence structure you use. I hope English is your second language.

I have followed this team through good and not so good for pretty much its entire NBA existence, so no, your knowledge base of the Spurs is not going to exceed mine. Perhaps Beno could beat JV in a game of horse, but his effectiveness here was limited by his injuries and lack of poise in the clutch. Plus, he simply was not as good as Tony Parker. Beno was a below average NBA player in San Antonio, and he did not have the mental toughness to succeed in the San Antonio system.

If you think Beno was going to stay here in San Antonio, then you are a freaking moron - iow you need to care about his FA status determining where he plays. Beno's rookie contract was to expire at the end of the 07-08 season, and the Spurs were not going to pay this guy to stay around given his poor play after his rookie year. For two entire seasons all he was proficient at was getting hurt, turning the ball over. and in the end complaining about his role to the Slovenian media. He became a liability to a team trying to win championships, and JV is a much smarter basketball player, even if he is not as talented as Beno.

Every time Beno got an opportunity here, he screwed up or got hurt. He had no confidence in himself. Then he goes to some sympathetic media outlets and complains about his role. Pop did NOT hold back this guy, he was incapable of ever beating out Tony Parker (they are the same age) and he went into a shell.

If you don't care about the FA status of this player which guaranteed his departure from SA and the fact that Beno would be no more than a career backup in San Antonio (both absolutely true), then I can't help you. 95% of the posters here, a number of whom actually do have more knowledge about basketball than I do, would completely agree with me.

Next.

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Originally Posted by T Park

Pop had nothing to do with it.

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Oh, Jesus. Where's the "head up your ass" emoticon when I need it?

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Originally Posted by ata

:lol:lol:lol

I agree that Beno mostly fucked himself, however Pop was always there to help him fuck himself even more.

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While Beno was such a mental midget that Pop's abrasiveness didn't mesh well with him, in 2 out of his 3 years - he was given every opportunity to be successful in the back-up role.

In year 1, we got very good early results, mixed later results, then eventually he became property of lindsey hunter in the finals.

In year 3, he sucked early, sucked in the middle, and sucked at the end. Vaughn's hustle and unspectacular play represented a HUGE upgrade over what we had been getting from the 2nd string PG up until that point.

Thank God JV never turned the ball over, as evidenced by his never having been benched for two or three weeks at a time as punishment.

It wasn't really the turnovers in '07, Beno's turnover ratio was actually pretty decent (only 2 per 40 minutes, just slightly higher than Vaughn's).

It was his terrible shooting (when a shoot-first PG is only hitting 37%, 28% from 3, he's giving you nothing offensively) and complete inability to defend anybody.

i bet yah he will spend most of it at the maloofs casino anyway...BENO PWNED

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It wasn't really the turnovers in '07, Beno's turnover ratio was actually pretty decent (only 2 per 40 minutes, just slightly higher than Vaughn's).

It was his terrible shooting (when a shoot-first PG is only hitting 37%, 28% from 3, he's giving you nothing offensively) and complete inability to defend anybody.

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Funny how Pop would pull him and keep him out of the next ten games after he turned the ball over or the Spurs allowed a basket. I seem to recall a meaningless Rockets game at the end of the regular season where his two crucial turnovers became the reason he barely saw the floor in the playoffs.

Again, I'm really glad he's gone, but Pop isn't remotely blameless for his handling. Reggie Theus is not a basketball genius.

Beno started talking shit in the media and the Spurs decided he wasn't worth paying the lux tax to keep around.

Still, RC and Pop should've coordinated their efforts to showcase his soft ass a little bit in order to get a better deal than avoiding the lux tax.

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Originally Posted by Marcus Bryant

Beno started talking shit in the media and the Spurs decided he wasn't worth paying the lux tax to keep around.

Still, RC and Pop should've coordinated their efforts to showcase his soft ass a little bit in order to get a better deal than avoiding the lux tax.

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I agree that once he opened his mouth, he had to be gone, but that was right at the end of his time here. It should never have come to that, in my opinion, and the Spurs should have recognized that he was never going to meet Pop's expectations and gotten something for him before they had to dump him when he had negative value. He clearly has more value than that now.

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Originally Posted by Obstructed_View

Oh, Jesus. Where's the "head up your ass" emoticon when I need it?

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For urself?

I dunno.

who gives a fuck about beno and why is this posted in the spurs section? fuck beno! get his cock out of your mouth already.

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Originally Posted by Obstructed_View

Funny how Pop would pull him and keep him out of the next ten games after he turned the ball over or the Spurs allowed a basket. I seem to recall a meaningless Rockets game at the end of the regular season where his two crucial turnovers became the reason he barely saw the floor in the playoffs.

Again, I'm really glad he's gone, but Pop isn't remotely blameless for his handling. Reggie Theus is not a basketball genius.

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If he couldn't handle a full court press against 3rd line stiffs from Houston, and thats pops fault for not trusting him?


Got it.

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Originally Posted by T Park

If he couldn't handle a full court press against 3rd line stiffs from Houston, and thats pops fault for not trusting him?


Got it.

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Two turnovers made him a bad player in a game where Ginobili had three, Van Exel had two and Barry had two?

Got it. I guess that's why every team that faces him just runs a press and he turns the ball over six times a game until Theus pulls him out. I guess that's why they kept Mike Bibby on the team and didn't re-sign Beno to a contract.

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Originally Posted by Obstructed_View

Funny how Pop would pull him and keep him out of the next ten games after he turned the ball over or the Spurs allowed a basket. I seem to recall a meaningless Rockets game at the end of the regular season where his two crucial turnovers became the reason he barely saw the floor in the playoffs.

Again, I'm really glad he's gone, but Pop isn't remotely blameless for his handling. Reggie Theus is not a basketball genius.

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Pop never pulled him for entire games early in the '07 season. Even with Vaughn taking his spot halfway through the year, Beno still appeared in 73 games and averaged 13 minutes.

When Beno was the second stringer, he was playing in every game and averaging closer to 17 minutes.