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Originally Posted by sendman
*crickets*
Fail.
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Originally Posted by sendman
*crickets*
Fail.
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Originally Posted by T Park
I agree that Beno mostly fucked himself, however Pop was always there to help him fuck himself even more.
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Originally Posted by ata
All Pop did was play the players that didn't shrivel up.
Pop had nothing to do with it.
Like NVE, for instance
Guess what Mrspur, you have not been watching the Spurs going back to 1978 - I can tell given the elementary sentence structure you use. I hope English is your second language.Quote:
Originally Posted by mrspurs
I have followed this team through good and not so good for pretty much its entire NBA existence, so no, your knowledge base of the Spurs is not going to exceed mine. Perhaps Beno could beat JV in a game of horse, but his effectiveness here was limited by his injuries and lack of poise in the clutch. Plus, he simply was not as good as Tony Parker. Beno was a below average NBA player in San Antonio, and he did not have the mental toughness to succeed in the San Antonio system.
If you think Beno was going to stay here in San Antonio, then you are a freaking moron - iow you need to care about his FA status determining where he plays. Beno's rookie contract was to expire at the end of the 07-08 season, and the Spurs were not going to pay this guy to stay around given his poor play after his rookie year. For two entire seasons all he was proficient at was getting hurt, turning the ball over. and in the end complaining about his role to the Slovenian media. He became a liability to a team trying to win championships, and JV is a much smarter basketball player, even if he is not as talented as Beno.
Every time Beno got an opportunity here, he screwed up or got hurt. He had no confidence in himself. Then he goes to some sympathetic media outlets and complains about his role. Pop did NOT hold back this guy, he was incapable of ever beating out Tony Parker (they are the same age) and he went into a shell.
If you don't care about the FA status of this player which guaranteed his departure from SA and the fact that Beno would be no more than a career backup in San Antonio (both absolutely true), then I can't help you. 95% of the posters here, a number of whom actually do have more knowledge about basketball than I do, would completely agree with me.
Next.
Oh, Jesus. Where's the "head up your ass" emoticon when I need it?Quote:
Originally Posted by T Park
While Beno was such a mental midget that Pop's abrasiveness didn't mesh well with him, in 2 out of his 3 years - he was given every opportunity to be successful in the back-up role.Quote:
Originally Posted by ata
In year 1, we got very good early results, mixed later results, then eventually he became property of lindsey hunter in the finals.
In year 3, he sucked early, sucked in the middle, and sucked at the end. Vaughn's hustle and unspectacular play represented a HUGE upgrade over what we had been getting from the 2nd string PG up until that point.
Thank God JV never turned the ball over, as evidenced by his never having been benched for two or three weeks at a time as punishment.
It wasn't really the turnovers in '07, Beno's turnover ratio was actually pretty decent (only 2 per 40 minutes, just slightly higher than Vaughn's).
It was his terrible shooting (when a shoot-first PG is only hitting 37%, 28% from 3, he's giving you nothing offensively) and complete inability to defend anybody.
i bet yah he will spend most of it at the maloofs casino anyway...BENO PWNED
Funny how Pop would pull him and keep him out of the next ten games after he turned the ball over or the Spurs allowed a basket. I seem to recall a meaningless Rockets game at the end of the regular season where his two crucial turnovers became the reason he barely saw the floor in the playoffs.Quote:
Originally Posted by K-State Spur
Again, I'm really glad he's gone, but Pop isn't remotely blameless for his handling. Reggie Theus is not a basketball genius.
Beno started talking shit in the media and the Spurs decided he wasn't worth paying the lux tax to keep around.
Still, RC and Pop should've coordinated their efforts to showcase his soft ass a little bit in order to get a better deal than avoiding the lux tax.
I agree that once he opened his mouth, he had to be gone, but that was right at the end of his time here. It should never have come to that, in my opinion, and the Spurs should have recognized that he was never going to meet Pop's expectations and gotten something for him before they had to dump him when he had negative value. He clearly has more value than that now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Marcus Bryant
For urself?Quote:
Originally Posted by Obstructed_View
I dunno.
who gives a fuck about beno and why is this posted in the spurs section? fuck beno! get his cock out of your mouth already.
If he couldn't handle a full court press against 3rd line stiffs from Houston, and thats pops fault for not trusting him?Quote:
Originally Posted by Obstructed_View
Got it.
Two turnovers made him a bad player in a game where Ginobili had three, Van Exel had two and Barry had two?Quote:
Originally Posted by T Park
Got it. I guess that's why every team that faces him just runs a press and he turns the ball over six times a game until Theus pulls him out. I guess that's why they kept Mike Bibby on the team and didn't re-sign Beno to a contract.
Pop never pulled him for entire games early in the '07 season. Even with Vaughn taking his spot halfway through the year, Beno still appeared in 73 games and averaged 13 minutes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Obstructed_View
When Beno was the second stringer, he was playing in every game and averaging closer to 17 minutes.